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General Software Discussion / Re: Attention: All TheBAT! users!

« Last post by CodeTRUCKER on June 02, 2009, 05:51 PM »

You are so "on the mark" when you say that common sense goes a long way in AV strategies!

EDIT: A solution to your problem is to just add an exclusion to The Bat!'s mail directory to your AV's real-time scanner. Any viruses will be picked up when you unarchive the file and try to run it anyway.

-Innuendo (June 02, 2009, 04:36 PM)

This won't work if the antivirus program is monitoring the POP3/IMAP traffic though, rather than just monitoring files on disk?

-f0dder (June 02, 2009, 05:45 PM)

f0dder, if what you say is true, how does on account for the fix I am presently enjoying?  No criticism.  I am just puzzled?

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General Software Discussion / Re: Attention: All TheBAT! users!

« Last post by CodeTRUCKER on June 02, 2009, 05:42 PM »

...
EDIT: A solution to your problem is to just add an exclusion to The Bat!'s mail directory to your AV's real-time scanner. Any viruses will be picked up when you unarchive the file and try to run it anyway.

-Innuendo (June 02, 2009, 04:36 PM)

Ok, I did this (I think), but just to be sure... I have gone into Avast!'s settings and added an exclusion for A! to not monitor the top-level mail directory.  Regardless, this did the trick.  I have A! running normally and TB! is downloading as fast as it did when I had A! suspended!

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General Software Discussion / Re: What's your favorite computer game from when you were young?

« Last post by CodeTRUCKER on June 02, 2009, 05:18 PM »

... That's the famous Atari 2600's ET! The game that caused the video game crash in 1983 and almost killed Atari altogether in the process. You know about the millions of carts buried in New Mexico, don't you?

-Lashiec (January 22, 2007, 11:38 AM)

Covering the world of corporate "strategies" is a veil that is best left undisturbed.   

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Mini-Reviews by Members / Re: Ad Muncher: keeps the brain intact while surfing the Net - beats AdBlock!

« Last post by CodeTRUCKER on June 02, 2009, 03:50 PM »

... heck, is gmail still beta? 

-superboyac (June 02, 2009, 03:38 PM)

<off topic>
Do not know about gmail, but I ALWAYS considered M$ Windows "beta" until XP came along (and some would probably question this)!
</off topic>

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General Software Discussion / Re: calendars - remembering the almond milk and sea moss smoothies

« Last post by CodeTRUCKER on June 02, 2009, 03:43 PM »

If you do not have to have a "visual" tool, I am experimenting with a former giveaway on DC, "My Life Organized."

It is a different animal than most "calendars/todos."  Actually, it is not completely fair to categorize MLO as a "non-visual" tool since it does present highlighting, coloring, bolding, etc. in a tree-structure of your appointments and tasks with appropriate chronology.  

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Take a look at these screenshots too.  Click on the images to see a bigger picture.  The developer, Andrey Tkachuk (TaskMan when he was on DC) has developed algorithms that "weigh" your tasks/appointments with information that you assign to each item.  While this sounds somewhat involved, it really becomes somewhat intuitive after working with it.  I believe the main difference is MLO matches your ToDos with your circumstances helping you t9o get the most DONE in the least time possible.  MLO "suggests" an itinerary for you, kind of like a competent secretary that knows your commitments.  MLO also has a mind-mapper too!  MLO has a lively forum as well.  If Andrey ever did add a visual calendar, MLO would have the potential to become a force to be reckoned with in this genre of apps.  

As I said, I am experimenting myself.  Shifting from a "visual" calendar to a text-based "secretary"(?) like MLO is not for the faint-hearted.  Mainly, you have to "let go" of your control over your life to another entity and just enjoy the order your "secretary" creates from the chaos.  

A final note... I invite everyone to try the free version.  Even if you eventually choose not to shift paradigms, you may find a nugget or two to put in your pocket.  Win I won a copy on DC way-back-when, I used it until I had to have my pretty pictures back, but I learned two distinct improvements I have used since then and will continue to implement in the future.  

Steven, I do not think I answered any of your questions, but I think MLO is worthy of your consideration.

[Edit] - I am not giving a seal of approval as I am still examining it myself, but I am intrigued with what I "perceive" to be the methodology.  Time will tell.

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Mini-Reviews by Members / Re: Ad Muncher: keeps the brain intact while surfing the Net - beats AdBlock!

« Last post by CodeTRUCKER on June 02, 2009, 02:34 PM »

Not to condone laziness or lack of good planning, but is it possible that the reason incremental releases are not provided is because it might jeopardize the future, i.e., coding feature "A" now would prevent the implementation of features "B," "C," etc. requiring a total rewrite of the master architecture?

I have to face this when I develop an app or even a macro.  I have had to start over more than once because I painted myself into a corner.  
I hope I am saying this right?

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General Software Discussion / Re: TB! Connection to host broken... "DELE 414", "RETR 423" over and over??

« Last post by CodeTRUCKER on June 02, 2009, 12:51 PM »

Hi Folks,

I agree. I think the only reason to have server email is if you are super-IMAP-oriented (about which I know very little).  It is so simple to back this stuff up to a USB stick or drive.

-Steven Avery (June 02, 2009, 07:53 AM)

Yes, keeping two USB sticks might be the ticket.  My total store is only 1.5GB.  It is certainly cheap enough.

We also have threads about using the free MailStore edition for long-term archiving. (Usually Outlook people do that, but I think it may be possible and helpful for TheBat! or Eudora or this or that.)

Like I mentioned to f0dder, "that" is where the idea came from for my present backup plan!?!
 

At any rate, keeping lots of mail on the server is something you might want to reconsider. You can get everything fully downloaded and then back up to external USB and/or to the cloud.  Fully empty the server and see if TheBat! still gives you trouble with new mail.  At this time you have two variables, a stuffed server and a quirky Bat, and it would be easier to get it down to one.

Shalom,
Steven Avery

One variable is immensely better to identify culprits than two (or more <at the thought of this, Calvin shrieks hysterically while running from the room>).  
Seriously, the comments on this thread are provoking a re-thinking of my whole backup strategy and not just for email.
Looks like it is going to be a profitable day!

[Edit] - Mr. Avery you were reading my thoughts in your above post!  Thank you for the comments.

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General Software Discussion / Re: TB! Connection to host broken... "DELE 414", "RETR 423" over and over??

« Last post by CodeTRUCKER on June 02, 2009, 12:31 PM »

well it's nice to hear you discovered theproblem.  sounds like solution is to uninstall avast?

-mouser (June 02, 2009, 05:05 AM)

Or at least disable it while doing the initial import of your mails.

-f0dder (June 02, 2009, 07:10 AM)

My thoughts, exactly and it has been successful.  My rate of download has gone from 80/Hr to 270/Hr.

Keeping a zillion mails on your server doesn't sound like the best way of doing mail 'backups' by the way,

Hmmmm... I thought I recall getting the idea a good while ago in lurking some threads on mail store backups. As a result, I have a 2GB backup space that comes with my permanent address for which I pay ~$2.00/mo. It is very short,"[email protected]".
Maybe I missed something?

especially not on POP3.

f0dder, Why?  

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General Software Discussion / Re: TB! Connection to host broken... "DELE 414", "RETR 423" over and over??

« Last post by CodeTRUCKER on June 02, 2009, 12:05 PM »

well it's nice to hear you discovered the problem.  sounds like solution is to uninstall avast?

-mouser (June 02, 2009, 05:05 AM)

Yes it is nice and I have been investigating a replacement A-V, but as I have been reading I am "hearing" that an A-V may not be necessary.

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General Software Discussion / Re: Attention: All TheBAT! users!

« Last post by CodeTRUCKER on June 02, 2009, 12:01 PM »

Thank you, Folks! 

Yes, the writing on the wall is pretty clear for Avast! and TB!  I did suspend A! and have been able to download about 3,000 mails in 11 hours.  Much better.

So, if I understand correctly, f0dder, you and Innuendo are not using any A-V for your mail without problems, but can we clarify if we are using any A-V at all?

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General Software Discussion / Re: TB! Connection to host broken... "DELE 414", "RETR 423" over and over??

« Last post by CodeTRUCKER on June 02, 2009, 12:55 AM »

One guess would be that your anti-virus is intercepting the mail requests and doing the actual download in the background, leaving TheBat! waiting, which makes it time out due to the large number of e-mails.

I know my AV works that way; when I press the check for new e-mail button it will show the retrieving mail window but do nothing while the AV does the actual download in the background and then all of a sudden speed through all the e-mails as the AV feeds them to TheBat! from it's local store.

-Jibz (June 02, 2009, 12:29 AM)

If this is true, I am in the soup since I have so many to download.  Ever seen Timeout=10 hours

I did try to move the emails back to the other folder on the server, but somehow TheBAT! keeps finding them?  As a result, I can not hide the bulk to test this with a small store.

If it's different in other e-mail clients, it may be because Avast installs a plug-in in TheBat! but not in the others.

The only plug-in is the AntiSpamSniper.

Thank you for taking a shot.  I appreciate it!
[Edit] -

• Oddly, I just noticed that every process in TB! is being affected.
  Closing the filters window as well as any right-click "create Filter" along with marking messages as spam or good is locking up TB! functionality for 4 - 18 seconds while Avast! is running.  I wonder if Avast! is doing more than just d/l emails?

 

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General Software Discussion / Re: you tube downloader for a non techie

« Last post by CodeTRUCKER on June 01, 2009, 11:47 PM »

Is there any software/website that will let me download all the videos uploaded by a user, or saved playlists. Youtube has been deleting a lot of content lately (mostly due to policing by networks) and I'd like to save my favorites.

-MrCrispy (June 01, 2009, 11:34 PM)

For about two hours from the time of this post, Giveaway of the Day has
Extra Youtube Downloader + Converter
available for free!

Hope you get this in time!

Sorry, this is no longer available.

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General Software Discussion / Attention: All TheBAT! users!

« Last post by CodeTRUCKER on June 01, 2009, 11:39 PM »

I have been chasing rabbit trails for several days.  I think I may have finally ferreted out the problem being Avast! AV Home , but before I proceed any farther I would like to know if anyone has been using TheBAT!(4.0.38), AntiSpamSniper and Avast! together without problems of major slowdown and errors like...

Connection to host broken (last commands sent were: "DELE 414", "RETR 423"

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Mini-Reviews by Members / Re: Ad Muncher: keeps the brain intact while surfing the Net - beats AdBlock!

« Last post by CodeTRUCKER on June 01, 2009, 11:04 PM »

Ad muncher is cool.

-superboyac

Yes...cool enough to have the development pace of a glacier. 

-Innuendo (June 01, 2009, 10:52 PM)

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General Software Discussion / Re: TB! Connection to host broken... "DELE 414", "RETR 423" over and over??

« Last post by CodeTRUCKER on June 01, 2009, 10:54 PM »

  Yippee!  I have a new lease on life!  

My problem is my Avast! Home anti-virus is what has been slowing things down.  If I suspend Avast! TheBAT! gets the mails as fast as any of the other clients I have been experimenting with today.

Now all I have to do is figure out how to make each of the "exclamation points" play nice with each other.  

Hmmm... may this is not so easy either?   The real question is "what" caused the slowdown since it was running fine then BAM!

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General Software Discussion / Re: TB! Connection to host broken... "DELE 414", "RETR 423" over and over??

« Last post by CodeTRUCKER on June 01, 2009, 03:16 PM »

I've only just installed AntiSpamSniper and it has substantially slowed my downloads. Of course, I'm only downloading a few at a time, so doesn't really matter to me.

-Dormouse (June 01, 2009, 03:01 PM)

Whew!  Thanks, maybe I no longer have an issue then!  

[Edit]  -  No dice.  I just found this on my logs...

6/1/2009, 15:55:15: FETCH - authenticated (plain)
 6/1/2009, 15:55:30: FETCH - 12739 messages in the mailbox, 12317 new
!6/1/2009, 15:56:48: FETCH - Connection to host broken (last commands sent were: "UIDL", "RETR 423")

Look familiar?  Will this nightmare ever end!

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Mini-Reviews by Members / Re: Ad Muncher: keeps the brain intact while surfing the Net - beats AdBlock!

« Last post by CodeTRUCKER on June 01, 2009, 03:12 PM »

CodeTRUCKER: Did you intend to post something?

-Josh (June 01, 2009, 03:09 PM)

Yes Sir!  Just a simple Thank you!  

I fat-fingered my spell-checker as I was posting.  It is fixed now.

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Mini-Reviews by Members / Re: Ad Muncher: keeps the brain intact while surfing the Net - beats AdBlock!

« Last post by CodeTRUCKER on June 01, 2009, 03:08 PM »

Thanks for the heads-up. 

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General Software Discussion / Re: TB! Connection to host broken... "DELE 414", "RETR 423" over and over??

« Last post by CodeTRUCKER on June 01, 2009, 02:43 PM »

Update:  I did a clean uninstall of TheBAT! and AntiSpamSniper and started over.  So far everything is working as it should, but the "Connection Centre" shows I have only downloaded...

Message: [ 423 / 12731 ]
Transfer: [15.52M bytes / 576.068M bytes] [843 CPS]
Time:      Elapsed: 05:22:57] [Estimated: 194:17:30]

That is only about 80 emails / 3MBs an hour.  That seems very slow to me even if I am not on a T1.  Could the AntiSpamSniper be slowing it down?

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General Software Discussion / Re: TB! Connection to host broken... "DELE 414", "RETR 423" over and over??

« Last post by CodeTRUCKER on June 01, 2009, 02:32 PM »

From within The Bat! you may want to try to try Accounts/Dispatch Mail On Server/All messages and see if you can find anything odd. 12,000 new emails is odd....looks like you got mailbombed or something.

-Innuendo (June 01, 2009, 12:37 PM)

I am afraid I have not been clear (that is what I get for trying to tackle "tech" issues after working for 20+ hours). 

My mail store is comprised of about 12,000 mails I have collected over the years and deemed valuable enough to keep.  I am not getting mailbombed or spammed. 

For reasons of my own, I migrated all 12K to a different area on my server.  At this point I installed Mailwasher Pro and after a while I canned it and installed AntiSpamSniper.  I had forgotten that I had migrated my mail store and went back to the server and migrated them to back to my main box.  WHAM!  TheBAT! and AntiSpamSniper began downloading the whole 12K as new mails!

At some point something went askew and no more mails would download.  The other anomaly I failed to mention earlier (sorry, Mouser) was every time I attempted to exit TheBAT! It would drive my CPU above 50% and just stay there leaving only the window "frames" on the screen until I ended the process.  Nothing else allowed termination.

When you downloaded the messages with another client, did you actually receive 12,000 messages?

I installed the latest Thunderbird.  Once installed, the mails began to come in normally.  After I was satisfied with T-Birds's performance and my server's function I closed down T-Bird and went back to the drawing board with TheBAT!

And what version of The Bat! are you using. The latest release version? A beta version, perhaps?

thebat_home_4-0-38.  I have not purchased the upgrade yet.  I am waiting to see if my needs justify the purchase.  Comments, Anyone?

EDIT: And on the subject of possible database corruption, when was the last time you ran Folder/Maintenance Centre? That will check your database of emails for corruption and fix any errors it finds.

I ran it several times during the process.  I never noticed anything amiss.

Thanks for the help!

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General Software Discussion / Re: TB! Connection to host broken... "DELE 414", "RETR 423" over and over??

« Last post by CodeTRUCKER on June 01, 2009, 03:52 AM »

   Now the TB! is locking up!  

Since this has been happening for days, I am going to just bite the bullet and download those 12,000 "new" emails pretty soon.  Something is hung up and neither the server nor the client can figure out what to do.

I will try installing a different no-frills client, like mrainey's "Courier" to determine if the issue resides on the server.

Give me a few minutes...

[Edit] - Had no trouble downloading mails with another client.  I will delete my TB! mail file and try again.  I will report back here when I have some results, but I am am still interested in any one's thoughts. 

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General Software Discussion / Re: TB! Connection to host broken... "DELE 414", "RETR 423" over and over??

« Last post by CodeTRUCKER on June 01, 2009, 03:37 AM »

well you have 12000+ "new" emails on your server.. something is up.. i wonder if that alone would kill the mail program.

-mouser (June 01, 2009, 02:58 AM)

Sounds like something is corrupted in the "flags" in TheBAT! or on the server.  I am going to try setting about 500 mails on the server to "New" and then reset them to "Read" and see what happens.

Be right back...

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General Software Discussion / Re: TB! Connection to host broken... "DELE 414", "RETR 423" over and over??

« Last post by CodeTRUCKER on June 01, 2009, 02:54 AM »

i know you were trying antispam sniper, have you tried disabling that and see if it works. if it does work after that,
then do what i suggested before, and configure all your accounts to NOT delete from the server.

-mouser (June 01, 2009, 02:36 AM)

I already disabled the AntiSpamSniper.  The error persists.  I can only guess at what is happening.

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General Software Discussion / TB! Connection to host broken... "DELE 414", "RETR 423" over and over??

« Last post by CodeTRUCKER on June 01, 2009, 01:15 AM »

I have been trying to re-establish  TheBAT! as my primary email client, but I have been stuck on the following log error for days and nothing I have tried has helped.

6/1/2009, 01:01:17: FETCH - receiving mail messages
 6/1/2009, 01:01:18: FETCH - connected to POP3 server
 6/1/2009, 01:01:18: FETCH - authenticated (plain)
 6/1/2009, 01:01:26: FETCH - 12730 messages in the mailbox, 12308 new
!6/1/2009, 01:02:47: FETCH - Connection to host broken (last commands sent were: "DELE 414", "RETR 423")

Other than the times and the number of messages the logs are always the same.  I realize "DELE 414", "RETR 423" means Delete message 414 and Retrieve message 432, respectively, but what I do not understand is WHY it is hanging on those messages?

The next step will be to destroy my TB! mail file and re-download all the mails from the server.  I don't mind this, except I have over a hundred folders (years of mails) and about the same number of filters.

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Mini-Reviews by Members / Re: AntispamSniper For The Bat!

« Last post by CodeTRUCKER on May 31, 2009, 12:48 PM »

Hello Innuendo,

Great review!  (check your DonationCredits)  I have always held a "worker is worth his wages" and you obviously put a lot of work into this review.  I enjoyed reading it very much.  Given this is only your first review, perhaps you should consider developing your technical review skills to a professional end?  One of the most important aspects of writing is the ability to do so using what is called your, "real voice."  As I read your review, I could "hear" you "speaking," even though I have never really heard the sound of your voice.  Many at DC possess this ability, but f0dder, Darwin, Mouser, zriddling, app103 and Wordzilla excel in "speaking" in their missives, but I digress. 

As it turns out, I installed the trial version of the AntiSpamSniper into my TB! the very day you posted your review.  Talk about timing, how fortunate am I!  Also, I have to say how much I appreciate your willingness to provide "service after the sale," so to speak.  I am sure I will have some questions, but I plan to re-read your review in conjunction with whatever help files exist before I unload the salvo on you.