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Are the Intel SATA in AHCI mode in the BIOS?
No they are not.  So I went into my bios and changed the setting for the Intel Sata from "Disabled" to "AHCI".  I did the same for the gigabyte sata setting.  I restarted Windows Xp and got the blue screen of death before it even loaded.  I changed the intel back to disabled and it loads fine now.  Why would that setting cause windows to crash?
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It works now, here is what happened:
--The 6-pack connectors are Intel based.  The other 2 are GSata (whatever that means) based on Gigabyte (so 4wd, you're right).
--i read on another forum that there have been problems with the Gsata.  i didn't find out what the solution was.
--I connected all 6 hard drives (including the eSata bracket connectors) to the 6-back since those are supposed to work better.
--I moved my DVD drive to the Gsata connector.

Everything works fine now.  There's only one minor consenquence/inconvenience from all of this.  Apparently, the computer won't recognize the eSata as an external connection is my external connection manager software "USB Safely Remove".  Before, it did.  Now it recognizes my DVD drive as an external connection.  I guess whatever is connected to the GSata is considered an external device.  But it's no big deal I guess.
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i'd like to point out what i like about the models 4wd posted -- which is that the opening is full 5.25 opening which holds exposed racks.  i prefer this to a case with a door and internal mountings that wouldn't allow you to use a rack of your choosing.  if you know you're never going to want to swap drives in and out then it doesnt matter of course.
This is true.  This is why i got Addonics stuff a while back.  But it turned out that i swapped out my drives so infrequently, that it didn't matter (like you said).  If I were to swap in and out a lot, I would definitely get a generic opening for flexibility.
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On the new computer I built this year:
See here

I have just attached my new external hard drive enclosure, and it detects one of the drives and not the other.  How come?

Internally, I have 3 hard drives and a DVD drive using a sata connector.  Externally, I have two more connected through esata that eventually goes to a sata port on the motherboard.

How come it's not detecting my second external drive?  For summary:
3 internal SATA hard drives
1 internal SATA DVD drive
2 external SATA drives (one is not being detected).

On the motherboard itself, I have plugs for up to 8 SATA drives.  6 of them are bunched together for RAID purposes I'm guessing.  I also have 2 of them together in another part of the board.  These two are the ones that are connected to the eSATA connectors on the outside of the case.  If the motherboard can support all this, why can't the computer see the last one?  Also, I'm not running any kind of RAID array.  Each drive does it's own independent thing.
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4wd, in defense of Granite Digital, I don't consider it poor design completely.  The only thing I fault them for is for not putting a large enough power supply to cover all cases rather than 80% of the situations people might encounter.  But again, their customer service has been really great about it.  Furthermore, I'm still not convinced all these other power supplies on other manufacturer's external drives are sufficient to cover all cases.  Just because you or other people haven't experienced problems doesn't mean it hasn't happened.  Again, according to the numbers, it seems reasonable that problems can occur.

I came across another website when searching for larger power supplies (I don't remember where) but they made power supplies for mini computers and there was a special note/warning in it saying that 80W may not be enough to cover some situations with multiple hard drives.

Anyway, I just don't think GD really did anything wrong.  The only thing I would recommend is that they maybe warn users that larger drives may need larger power supplies, and/or they provide larger power supplies by default.  Who knows?

By the way, i do like the Addonics stuff.  I have one of them in my old computer.  They have a lot of cool solutions for these things.
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As for me, although I really like the looks of Granite Digital's stuff I'm not going to buy anything of theirs as I know it will be the first step down a slippery slope towards me buying a $600 silver aluminum Lian-Li or Silverstone case.
AHH!!  This case is SO sexy.  I need to get it:
EX-20_03.jpg
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OK, 4wd, you got me!  I know about the 80 Plus, i was just hoping nobody was going to call me out on it.

Here's the thing.  I don't care about that stuff primarily.  My top concern is that the hard drive works, environment be damned.  I really don't care if my little PSU uses more than optimum power.  If I need to be a little wasteful to get my setup to work, so be it.  I'll let the manufacturer's worry about the regulations and stuff.  It's not my job (at least not at home...at work is a different story).

To be truthful, it's not that I don't care.  This is just the solution for me, that's all.  My "efficiently sized" power supply wasn't enough.  I tried looking for a cable, or larger brick, etc. to replace the existing one.  I couldn't find one that was affordable.  However, I found a 2-bay drive just like the one I had for an extra $20.  It happened to have 300W supply.  Do I care?  No.  Why?  Because my hard drive will work.  So I got it.  It could have been a 100W or 500W supply, I still would have gotten it for that price.  My goal is a working hard drive.

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So there you go.  Those numbers still don't tell me everything, but enough to say that there are situations where power can insufficient.  But again, for the most part, you will be fine.  Same with me.  I was fine for the most part, but the situation came up where I probably approached the limit and a random spike/dip caused a problem.  That's why I never want to cut it that close.  I'm perfectly happy with my new 300W power supply for my two HD's.  I know I'll always have enough juice, and if it's overkill, I really don't care.  The thing with power is that you only consume what the actual demand is.  So if I have a 300W power supply, but I'm only using 20W of it, then I'm not being wasteful or anything.  I'm only drawing 20W from the power company.  So knowing that, I'd rather overshoot than try to get a right fit.  Of course, this attitude is partly due to the fact that I've already experienced my previous problem.  Normally, I just use whatever brick comes default.
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General Software Discussion / Re: SQLNotes...what is it exactly?
« Last post by superboyac on July 27, 2009, 03:46 PM »
Suggestion for HTML pane:
I need a way to quickly apply styles of my choosing to the things I'm putting in the HTML pane.  It's too much work right now to change the fonts, sizes, bold, etc.  I need buttons or something where I can save preset styles once I've configured them.

Also, can we have a toolbar to control things like font size, font type, etc. like a normal writing application?  I find it difficult to think of it in terms of html code.  Like font sizes numbered 1-7 is weird for me, why can't we have normal font sizes like 10,12,14,etc...?  I know we can convert these to Word documents and other formats, but that's more inconvenient that directly typing in the editor.  It's easier if the html pane was more like a traditional writing application than an html editor.  Now, if we're going to use the html environment, it would be necessary to tweak to interface to behave like a traditional writing application.  Again, that means toolbars, buttons like MS Word.  I know that some of the basics are there like bold, italic buttons and outliner buttons, but the other ones for the rest of the style settings would be convenient also.  Especially some kind of drop-down box for choosing user-defined custom styles.
4485
Ok...I thought I made it clear.  Mine has a molex connector where the picture shows SATA power.  I couldn't find an exact picture of it.

How odd and non-standard. That's quite an oddity you have on your hands.

I've seen the DNS-323.  The only think I didn't like about it was the plastic feel to it and the wobbly way everything connects.  And I did want hot swap, very much so.

Only the front cover is plastic. The rest is metal & the way things connect you might think it would be wobbly, but it's very snug & efficient. There's no wobble at all. However, if you wanted hot-swap then you are right. The DNS-323 doesn't have hot-swap.

However, in its defense, the DNS-323 wasn't designed where hot-swap was a desired feature. It's a NAS rather than an eSATA enclosure. I bought the DNS-323 so I could hang it on my network & have central storage available to all the computers on my network without having to keep a PC on to access its attached enclosure.

I really like Granite Digital's aesthetics, but I know if I got one I'd spend too much money buying a PC case to match. ;)

Like you, I tend to avoid DIY things, especially when pre-built things with warrantees that exist that give you more features than you had & for not much money. That two-bay enclosure for $99 is a very good deal.
Re the DNS, I thought the front cover was a little wobbly...it came off too easily for my tastes.  But it's a decent system, I don't mind it much at all.  I do like Granite Digital a lot.  Even though they are expensive, I will continue to support them because of their amazing customer service.

I am curious as to what the power supply to the DNS is like.  For two hard drives, it would have to be a little more than usual.  By the way, I know a lot of people here are saying that it's unusual for me to run out of power and the Granite Digital stuff is overkill, but I've been cranking the numbers myself and the problem I ran into makes sense.  I'm a licensed electrical engineer, so I like to think I know what I'm talking about.  For a 2 hard drive system, I would recommend an 80-100W power supply, if you want to be on the safe side.  I'm really wondering why other people are not running into problems with their enclosures.  Just a little curious on my end.

Let me explain, maybe it will help someone who comes across this post.  My enclosure came with a 40W power supply in the form of a brick-type.  That's plenty for the most part.  However, with these large drives, it's not that unusual for them to consume more than 30W at some instant (however rare that might be).  I've heard that the initial spin-up consumes the most power.  In that case, it is quite possible that 40W is not enough.  With power, you never want to cut it too close to the specified values because all sorts of things can be going on.  There can be dips and surges, whatever.  I always go way on the safe side.  In my case, it seemed like I didn't have enough juice to startup the drive and I could never get it going after a while.  but with a larger power supply, it was fine.
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Nice tranglos, I always love your posts.

I'm a big DOpus user, and I've used the virtual file system it has.  They are called collections in Dopus.  now, I haven't used it extensively, so i can't answer all your questions, especially the ones about how it works behind the scenes.  Here's what I know:

--You can see the collections only in DOpus.  So you won't be able to use it with other file managers, including Explorer.
--I don't know where or how the collections are stored, but you access them with the prefix "coll://"
--The files are really virtual, so no extra copies or anything are made.  yeah, that would tick me off too if a virtual system made duplicates.
--In the virtual system, you can have hierarchy.  And it will either inherit the physical folder structure of the actual files, or you can make your own virtual hierarchy totally unrelated to anything physical.  Furthermore, when you drag a folder into it, you can choose whether to inherit to the physical structure, or to merely link to that folder.  The difference is that if you link, and then you double click on the folder, it will take you to the physical folder's location.  If you inherit the folder structure, then when you double-click on the folder, you'll be taken to a virtual sub-folder that mimics the actual folder, but you're still in the virtual system.  See the screenshot below:
screenshot_20090727090405.png
--I don't know about scripts and stuff.  DOpus is very configurable, so I think you can do a lot, I just don't know how at this point.  I'm pretty certain you can apply the normal DOpus scripts to virtual folders.  if that's the case, you should be able to do a lot of things.
4487
I feel your pain. I found your post because I was searching for a non-standard molex cable as well. I've searched high and low and only found one place so far. Here is what I found.

http://www.sidewinde...s.com/sidcuscab.html

You can buy male and female empty molex plugs and pins to make your own cable, which can be any length you want. They do make crimpers for the pins, but you really don't need them. Just stick the wire in the pin and pinch the end with some pliers. After that you just shove the pin in the plug and the little metal parts that stick out will keep the pin from coming back out.

The plug and pins will run you about $1 and you can get wire almost anywhere. I hope this is what you were looking for.
Thanks for the website, I'll have to save it.

I was THIS close to making a cable.  But i ended up buying a 2-bay enclosure that I talked about previously in this thread.  I haven't connected it yet, I'm still waiting for my sata cables to arrive, but I'm happy with it.  I tend to avoid doing DIY things unless I absolutely have to.
4488
Ok...I thought I made it clear.  Mine has a molex connector where the picture shows SATA power.  I couldn't find an exact picture of it.

I've seen the DNS-323.  The only think I didn't like about it was the plastic feel to it and the wobbly way everything connects.  And I did want hot swap, very much so.
4489
superboyac,
My question was unanswered & I'll ask again because I'm genuinely curious. Why were you asking about a molex connector extension when you are buying a SATA drive enclosure? The two just don't mix.
The enclosure I bought has an alternative molex connection in the back.  It's there for emergencies, I suppose.  The normal connection for power is a mini-din plug that attaches to a brick power supply.  Since the brick was not enough power, the molex could provide more power when connected directly to my pc's psu.  That's why I was looking for a molex.
sata_alumhotswap_1-2 bay_man_Page_15.png
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I have one of those as well.  Obviously, I'm not getting the Granite Digital products for their portability.  I like those things...you just slide the bare drive in and out like a floppy disk.  I wrote a review about them a while back:
https://www.donation...dex.php?topic=7940.0
4491
Well, they must have seen the error of their ways.....

The one you're referring to must be old stock they want to get rid of, all their newer External 2 bay enclosures only have a 40, 50 or 80 watt PSU.

And at 10Kg for a dual bay external it's more an anchor than it is portable.....they've certainly lived up to the name Granite with this thing.
That's interesting.  40W for two big hard drives could be cutting it close, but I guess they've done their math.  I'm getting the one on sale (already ordered it) because it's pretty cheap and it's still $60 cheaper than the stacked one.  Yeah, their enclosures are pretty heavy, but that's what I like about them!  These things are rock solid.  I've used cheaper plastic ones in the past and they were fine, but little things here and there were evident that they were a little cheap.  This one is seriously well made.
4492
LaunchBar Commander / Re: Show us your LaunchBar Commander Screenshots
« Last post by superboyac on July 19, 2009, 09:05 PM »
This first one is my portable launcher that runs from my USB stick.  It includes only applications that are on the USB stick:
Screenshot_20090719185735.png

This other one is my work launcher, and includes applications on my work computer.  However, LBC is actually running from the USB.
Screenshot_20090719185747.png

One feature that I don't see many people using with LBC is the popup menu hotkey feature.  My menus are not docked anywhere.  If I need them, I use an Alt-(key) to popup the menu right under the mouse.  I absolutely adore this feature.  Actually, I do also keep it docked in the system tray as two tiny icons.  But I use the popup mostly.  I'm not a fan of things sliding out the sides of windows at all.
4493
It's overkill engineering-wise, but you don't know business-wise.  What if they have a ton of 300w units lying around?  Why would they buy a 175W units for their new equipment?
4494
300w is overkill, but it's probably one of those things where it's easier to put in a 300w unit than a 100w unit or something.  Also, I think they use the same 300w unit for the 4-drive bay.  No big deal there.  I've been reading, and it's not that unusual for a drive to use more than 30W power during initial spinup.  So 60W for two drives is minimum, in my mind.  Just to be safe, I would make sure to have minimum 80-100W just to make sure nothing crazy happens.  I don't think that is overkill at all.  That being said, the normal brick power supply will be undersized for this kind of thing.  That's why i'm going to go with the 2-bay enclosure.
4495
Another idea that seems so obvious that I don't understand why it wasn't mentioned already:

You could mount the HD in one of your spare 5.25 inch bays using mounting brackets or an internal enclosure with a rack. Then you could hook up the HD directly to your PC's power supply and motherboard. This is assuming you have a spare 5.25 inch bay to begin with.

If there is an issue with it being a PATA drive and there only being SATA capabilities on your motherboard, then you can use a controller card to fix that problem. (there are also SATA controller cards, too,  in case you have maxed that out already, and that was your reason for using an external enclosure)
Ha!  Yeah, it wasn't mentioned because I want to use it as an external drive.  I should have made that more clear.  Believe me, my computer has PLENTY of 5.25 bays and plenty of spare SATA  spaces on the motherboard.  This is the super computer I built following the recommendations of everyone here at DC earlier this year.  There's a whole thread on it.

No, I still think I'm going to go for that 2-bay solution.  I'm just waiting to hear back from Granite Digital and I hope they'll give me store credit for this enclosure.
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Hmmm...Shades, you bring up a good point.  Why is the drive consuming so much power?  Well, who knows.  Actually, I'm an electrical engineer by profession, I should know the answer, but I don't know anything about how hard drives and stuff work.

Anyway, here's the deal.  The enclosure is from Granite Digital, an excellent company with fabulous customer support.  I love their products.  I've been thinking about it and I believe I have come up with the best solution.  I've asked them if i can return the enclosure I have for store credit and use it to buy a 2-bay enclosure of the same type.  Why?  Because, first of all, their 2-bay enclosure comes with a built in 300w power supply.  Secondly, my enclosure cost about $70 and their 2-bay enclosure is on sale for $100.  So it wouldn't cost me that much in the end anyway.  I also have a couple of spare 500gb drives lying around that could be used.  So, that's my solution.

As for the drive consuming a lot of power, the answer I got from Granite Digital is that the external power supply that comes with the unit can support most drives, but with the drives getting so big now 1-2TB, their power consumption is getting a little too big for these power supplies.  The model of this power supply is listed for 34W, but I don't know what that actually means.  I haven't read anywhere of a hard drive using 34W of power or even close to it, but the actual values of all these things are always vastly different than their listed values.  So whatever.
4497
Darn, I should have read your story instead of glancing over it. Those connectors on the back are mainly for  connecting a hard drive when an emergency occurs. Of course you can use it on a more permanent basis but I do not know how much power it can sustain like that.

With each power supply you see several bundles of cables coming out. Each of those bundles is also known as a rail and can only output a fraction of the advertised power (watts) mentioned on the power supply. I have to assume that the molex on the back of the power supply is connected to one of these rails and it is hard to tell which one without inspecting the circuit board of the power supply.

Now I don't know which power supply you have installed and how you have divided the load from the (enormous amount of) connected devices regarding the available rails. So when you use the back molex together with such a long cable, make sure that you don't overload that particular rail because you can be in for a nasty surprise.

It would not be the first time that dividing the load from a misbehaving PC differently has removed a lot if not all of the problems it had. Power supplies that have their load not evenly divided wear out more quickly as well. A little bit of common sense here works wonders.

 
I think I understand what you are saying.  So what do you suggest?
4498
You could get one of those adapters that connects a bare IDE drive to a USB outlet - they always come with an AC adapter that will power IDE drives which happen to have Molex connectors.  Something like:

http://www.newegg.co...Item=N82E16812156101
I don't see the specs for it, but I doubt it has enough juice to power this drive.  The current power supply I had was 34W which is enough for most drives, but was not enough for mine.  So I think I have to look towards more exotic solutions.  The general external solutions will not work, I don't think.
4499
I couldn't find any brick that had enough power and also had a Molex connector.

What kind of connector did you find? It might be easier to just buy an adapter like I had to do when I bought my Dell and wanted to use some older drives (it only came with ability to power SATA)
Well, that's the thing.  I couldn't find any brick that had that much power (50-80W) with a connector that I would be able to convert to a Molex with an adapter of some sort.  I looked for a long time with a bunch of combination, but didn't find any.
4500
I ask for a lot of help here, so this time I present it as a challenge that I will pay for.

I have an external enclosure for my hard drive.  Apparently, the power supply is too small (in Watts delivered) for the hard drive I am using.  I need a bigger power supply in the range of 50W-80W, I'm not really sure.  My enclosure also has a convenience Molex (male) plug on the back.  Now, if I can somehow get a Molex cable 6' or longer, I can connect it to the PSU that's inside my computer case, which has plenty of juice for this.

The problem is that nobody makes a Molex cable for external use anywhere past 12" or so.  I've been scouring the web for two hours now.

So, I will pay somebody to make me a 6' cable to do this.  $20.  Or if anyone has a better solution, I'll give you $10 of my donationcredits.

One of the other solutions I considered was buying an external power supply box (or brick) and connect that to my enclosure.  But i ran into the same problem.  I couldn't find any brick that had enough power and also had a Molex connector.  Besides, it's just easier to connect to my computer's PSU anyway.


By the way, when I say Molex, I mean this:
800px-Molex_female_connector.jpg
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