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Living Room / Re: ‘Cyborg Unplug’ Is a Personal Jammer Against Drones, Glassholes

« Last post by wraith808 on September 10, 2014, 01:32 PM »

And not all people that use glass are using it inappropriately... I'd dare say, most of the ones that I know are not using it in any way that would intrude on anyone else's privacy.

-wraith808 (September 10, 2014, 08:45 AM)

Given the potential for complications if one was to show up in the wrong persons video diaries ... I would be in favor of jamming the feed. Because if you're filming me without my knowledge/consent...then you're violating my privacy.

-Stoic Joker (September 10, 2014, 11:49 AM)

You're filmed everywhere you go pretty much.  It's not as bad as the UK, but one of the first things the police do is to look for banks, ATMs, and Convenience stores in the region near any crime because of that.  I think it's bad form to actively film someone without their consent, but again, the bulk of the people with Glass that I know don't do that.  And I thought about getting it for development purposes, but it's way too much for what it does.

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Living Room / Re: A warning to anybody who is looking to purchase a VPS.

« Last post by wraith808 on September 10, 2014, 01:29 PM »

Low end Talk for a bit is that the low end VPS market is littered with sketchy vendors.  There are vendors who provide what they say they will; but there are a lot who don't, who are fly-by-nights, or are simply in over their heads.

Low end VPS is a real buyer beware situation.

-mwb1100 (September 10, 2014, 10:58 AM)

That's why I pay my money and am happy to do it.  I recommend LiquidWeb to anyone that asks... but they are definitely not lower end, though they were a bit more so when I started with them.

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Living Room / Re: The One Word Game!

« Last post by wraith808 on September 10, 2014, 11:38 AM »

nothing

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Living Room / Re: The One Word Game!

« Last post by wraith808 on September 10, 2014, 10:31 AM »

hydrogenated

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Living Room / Re: ‘Cyborg Unplug’ Is a Personal Jammer Against Drones, Glassholes

« Last post by wraith808 on September 10, 2014, 08:45 AM »

It seems useless other than the illegal in the US part, i.e. disconnecting anyone from any network.  You can stop people from connecting to your network by the expedient of wi-fi security.  And not all people that use glass are using it inappropriately... I'd dare say, most of the ones that I know are not using it in any way that would intrude on anyone else's privacy.

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Developer's Corner / Re: Markdown (and what do you do when a community outgrows your contribution)

« Last post by wraith808 on September 09, 2014, 01:19 PM »

Did they try to take the name?

-wraith808 (September 09, 2014, 11:50 AM)

It would be similar to someone setting up a website very similar to DC and calling it "Super DonationCoder".  Whether or not that would be illegal, it wouldn't be right to do without Mouser's permission.  And even if Mouser took DC in a direction that many people didn't agree with, it wouldn't be right.

-mwb1100 (September 09, 2014, 01:01 PM)

That comparison is pretty specious.  But Ok... taking it there...

So what about Github Flavored Markdown?  Or MultiMarkdown?  Or any of the other various flavors?  They neither requested nor got anything tacit or otherwise in the way of approval.  And... I could go through linking a whole lot of conversations from very long ago, in which they've tried to get Gruber onboard, and stated that they weren't trying to usurp anything from him.

But just as with discussions of the past of CommonMark, this particular discussion has run its course, I think.  Onward! 

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Developer's Corner / Re: Markdown (and what do you do when a community outgrows your contribution)

« Last post by wraith808 on September 09, 2014, 11:50 AM »

Open sourcing something doesn't necessarily mean that the name of a project is up for grabs.

-mwb1100 (September 09, 2014, 10:55 AM)

Did they try to take the name?  It looked like they made another variation on it to me...?

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Developer's Corner / Re: Markdown (and what do you do when a community outgrows your contribution)

« Last post by wraith808 on September 09, 2014, 09:50 AM »

It's not a license... and several people have used it without prior permission.  And if you follow the thread of posts, they asked.  And he never gave a response.

-wraith808 (September 09, 2014, 08:44 AM)

Where I come from, if someone asks you if they can take something from you, and you do not give a reply, it doesn't automatically mean 'yes'. Neither does allowing someone to take something from you automatically allow anyone to do so.

But don't get me wrong, I don't disagree with you at all. The lack of cooperation on Gruber's part still surprises me. Especially since all they wanted was his consent (well, and the name).

-phitsc (September 09, 2014, 09:24 AM)

They weren't trying to take anything from him... that's the thread of thought that I don't understand.

I do not want stewardship over Markdown. I want it to be a viable, community maintained open source project since millions of people rely on it. That is what open source is supposed to mean.

He made Markdown.pl open source.  Then he applied this random license to the open source license.  And no one is calling him on that.  You can't have it both ways... and this is what comes of that.  He even made the rather uninformed quote because of the licensing- "just because Markdown has a great community doesn't make it a community project."

I think one of the large things that should come out of this for developers is to *think* before you license, and understand the ramifications and be OK with it down the line.  Or... don't make it open source.

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Developer's Corner / Re: Markdown (and what do you do when a community outgrows your contribution)

« Last post by wraith808 on September 09, 2014, 08:44 AM »

...
And that's what they did in the end after he finally made it clear that he wouldn't allow the name to be used under any circumstances.  That's after telling them that he might allow pedantic or strict markdown... which both don't convey what is being done at all. 
...

-wraith808 (September 08, 2014, 04:15 PM)

Well, the Markdown license states that the name “Markdown” may only be used with specific prior written permission. So choosing a different name right from the start, while most certainly not changing Gruber's opinion about the whole endeavor, would maybe have led to less negative reactions from some parts of the community.

-phitsc (September 09, 2014, 01:36 AM)

It's not a license... and several people have used it without prior permission.  And if you follow the thread of posts, they asked.  And he never gave a response.  It's also open source... and he inserted closed permission type license into an open source license.  It just doesn't work that way.  Though while he attempted to wield it as such... and has indeed tried to negatively affect certain initiatives as if it were such, he in all probability (never can tell with judges) would have no legal ground to stand on.  You might argue moral or ethical grounds.  But since the licensed code itself had ambiguities and bugs... and when pressed on them as part of this initiative he said there were no bugs- then after CommonMark was released, he said he might go back to address some 'problems'- I'd argue that he already gave up the high ground on that one.

I even think that if they had branded as they are now... he would have still phrased it as they were taking his work.

But, that's neither here nor there.  They did change it, and the historical bit will very likely fade into the ether, probably faster than if they'd taken this approach to begin with.

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Living Room / Re: The One Word Game!

« Last post by wraith808 on September 08, 2014, 11:02 PM »

Ironhide

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Living Room / Re: Switzerland-based ProtonMail, yet another secure email service

« Last post by wraith808 on September 08, 2014, 08:04 PM »

Well, after getting setup... I see that this is not meant as your primary e-mail.  At least not at 100MB and 1000 messages/month...?

-wraith808 (September 08, 2014, 05:39 PM)

Considering how many people actually use encrypted mail as their primary... :shrug:

That said, yeah it doesn't seem like a whole lot, although I doubt I get more than 300 emails a month from my regular email, and I'm signed up to at least 5 subscriptions, plus Facebook and G+ notifications.  Maybe 5 messages a month through the email I give out to family and friends... maybe that's saying something. 

-Edvard (September 08, 2014, 07:38 PM)

On another end of the scale, I get more than 300 a day.   

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Living Room / Re: Switzerland-based ProtonMail, yet another secure email service

« Last post by wraith808 on September 08, 2014, 07:19 PM »

I thought both were truthfully... the criminally small space and the messages per month.

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Non-Windows Software / Re: LINUX: Remarkable - a very simple previewing Markdown editor for Linux

« Last post by wraith808 on September 08, 2014, 06:01 PM »

Oh, that Qute is sweet indeed. Although I mainly use Markdown for quick drafts for later HTML conversion. But I'll take a look.

-Tuxman (September 08, 2014, 11:48 AM)

I think I might have found another favorite editor.  After playing around with it for a while, I'm quite enamored.  There are minor quibbles, and it does show itself as development software, but so far it works quite well and the parsing is more than acceptable.  And it does do what Remarkable does.  Quite pleased with that find.

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Living Room / Re: Switzerland-based ProtonMail, yet another secure email service

« Last post by wraith808 on September 08, 2014, 05:39 PM »

Well, after getting setup... I see that this is not meant as your primary e-mail.  At least not at 100MB and 1000 messages/month...?

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Developer's Corner / Re: Markdown (and what do you do when a community outgrows your contribution)

« Last post by wraith808 on September 08, 2014, 05:22 PM »

The good thing that should come out of all of this is that developers should run, not walk, to CommonMark -- and abandon Markdown as rapidly as possible.

-mouser (September 08, 2014, 04:33 PM)

That's one thing I'm afraid of.  A fragmentation.  But I don't think that CommonMark should really be hit by that as it doesn't include in the spec not to render other markdown.  Just to make sure that you render this markdown.

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Developer's Corner / Re: Markdown (and what do you do when a community outgrows your contribution)

« Last post by wraith808 on September 08, 2014, 04:15 PM »

And I've already made clear that I believe standardization -- especially in the form it was done here -- is a good and important thing.

So the only real question in my mind is what you do when the original inventor becomes an obstacle to the continuing use and development of the project.

And I think my position is that when this happens, and attempts to convince the original inventor to join the team fails, that perhaps the best solution is to make a clean break from the original name of the invention and come up with a clearly different name -- even though that could lead to some (initial or continuing) confusion for users.

-mouser (September 08, 2014, 03:46 PM)

Look at the links in my post above.  Specifically:

https://twitter.com/...s/262287246953164800

https://twitter.com/...s/261650083689426945

He does make it quite clear that he doesn't want to be involved.  He's also very passive aggressive about it.  The later one is after he's said he doesn't want to be involved, they as a courtesy gave it to him to make suggestions and or say anything about it.  That's where the two weeks came from.  It seems a lot like the old if I don't see it and don't acknowledge it, then maybe it will just go away approach.

I agree mouser that choosing a different name and just stating that one of the main goals was Markdown compatibility would probably have been better.

-phitsc (September 08, 2014, 04:08 PM)

And that's what they did in the end after he finally made it clear that he wouldn't allow the name to be used under any circumstances.  That's after telling them that he might allow pedantic or strict markdown... which both don't convey what is being done at all.  What makes it even worse is that this is instructions for a parser- but because there are a lot of non-technical people interested in markdown, they don't get that this is what it is for, and that even non CommonMark Markdown will still be able to be parsed just as normal.

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Non-Windows Software / Re: LINUX: Remarkable - a very simple previewing Markdown editor for Linux

« Last post by wraith808 on September 08, 2014, 02:53 PM »

Wow - I had no idea.

I might look at that Sublime Text setup for Markdown - I like that it's cross platform.
 

-mwb1100 (September 08, 2014, 02:30 PM)

Yes, its in use in quite a few applications on windows and cross platform.  If you're looking for cross platform and don't mind web based, I'd also be remiss if I didn't mention the ones that I'm using:

Markable - has an HTML to markdown converter which can be useful.  Also has some other pretty cool features.

Dillinger - Live changing of markdown flavour.

Draft - Made with a real focus on writers, and collaboration on that writing.  Just started using it, but the developer seems really responsive.

StackEdit - side by side live preview

All of them import/export/sync to/from dropbox, evernote, google drive, etc... in some form or another.  I was skeptical, until I needed a quick way to edit on a few platforms in a hurry.  Tried stackedit, and it was great for that.  Synced up to google drive and drop box.  Viewed the output in Texts and exported using that to word.  Also used in Visual Studio as what I was doing was auditing code, which made it great to keep the workflow integrated.

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Living Room / Re: The One Word Game!

« Last post by wraith808 on September 08, 2014, 11:54 AM »

monster

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Living Room / Re: Hackers vs. gray matter

« Last post by wraith808 on September 08, 2014, 11:53 AM »

Security is a practice that must be adhered to at all times ... It is not something you install and then blindly trust to just work.

-Stoic Joker (September 08, 2014, 11:50 AM)

+1000!

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Non-Windows Software / Re: LINUX: Remarkable - a very simple previewing Markdown editor for Linux

« Last post by wraith808 on September 08, 2014, 11:47 AM »

Some of them were indeed new to me. But I wonder why you like MD inside VS but rant about .net...

-Tuxman (September 08, 2014, 11:19 AM)

Did I rant?  Oh my... you must have read something I didn't write.  I stated a preference.  And it has to do with ClickOnce installation.  Is it not possible to like something without liking all that it offers?

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Non-Windows Software / Re: LINUX: Remarkable - a very simple previewing Markdown editor for Linux

« Last post by wraith808 on September 08, 2014, 11:44 AM »

Though not quite the same, I just came across something pretty awesome for live preview for windows Qute.  You edit paragraph by paragraph, with the currently edited paragraph being in plain text markdown... and everything else being rendered.  It looks pretty awesome.

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Non-Windows Software / Re: LINUX: Remarkable - a very simple previewing Markdown editor for Linux

« Last post by wraith808 on September 08, 2014, 10:51 AM »

I tried MarkdownPad 2 for a while... I didn't really like it, nor the fact that it was using the .NET on demand type run/install.

There are other alternatives...

MarkPad is like MarkdownPad 2... but I like the UI better.  It's also using the parser that I use for my own project... DownmarkerWPF.

MarkdownMode in Visual studio is pretty awesome.

There's also Texts, which I use for my actual writing... not only live text changes, but you can also edit a markdown file as if RTF.

And last, but definitely not least... there's mdCharm.

It's pretty much the same as Remarkable, but for windows.  That's the good part.  The bad part is that it's no longer maintained.  But the good part is that it's on github.

Oh, and for one last hit... you can configure Sublime Text to do this also.

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Developer's Corner / Re: Markdown (and what do you do when a community outgrows your contribution)

« Last post by wraith808 on September 08, 2014, 10:23 AM »

But mouser, they did try to get him involved.  They've been trying for the whole two years that they worked on it.  And he either (a) ignored them or (b) denigrated them on social media.  Look at some of the links involved.

And truthfully, I think if they started out with the commonmark idea, they would have gotten the same reception from him, and others- that they stole it, etc.  By starting out in the Standard Markdown space... they shed a lot of that... then moved to a better space where they could say that they tried to bend over backwards to make the spec part of markdown... but were put off at every turn.

When *finally* (and I use that word for a reason) he stopped being passive-aggressive, and said that he'd not approve any permutation of Markdown with their project, they moved.  And the having to get a blessing from him?  there are so many uses of markdown in a name that he had nothing to do with.  I'm sorry... if you want control, don't make it open source, trademark your name, and protect your trademark.  

He used a bastardization of an open source license... and no one is calling him on it is the other thing that's crazy.

But I think Jeff says it best in this particular response:

I do not want stewardship over Markdown. I want it to be a viable, community maintained open source project since millions of people rely on it. That is what open source is supposed to mean.

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Living Room / Re: The One Word Game!

« Last post by wraith808 on September 08, 2014, 10:16 AM »

low

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Living Room / Re: silly humor - post 'em here! [warning some NSFW and adult content]

« Last post by wraith808 on September 07, 2014, 11:38 PM »

I'd never seen this before. At first I thought it was a parody, but no, it's the real deal.

-Renegade (September 07, 2014, 02:21 AM)

It was in the second wave of Schoolhouse Rock vids... and they were quickly cancelled.  You'd think that we've become unable to hear the truth in a children's cartoon or something...