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Open sourcing something doesn't necessarily mean that the name of a project is up for grabs.-mwb1100 (September 09, 2014, 10:55 AM)
It's not a license... and several people have used it without prior permission. And if you follow the thread of posts, they asked. And he never gave a response.-wraith808 (September 09, 2014, 08:44 AM)
Where I come from, if someone asks you if they can take something from you, and you do not give a reply, it doesn't automatically mean 'yes'. Neither does allowing someone to take something from you automatically allow anyone to do so.
But don't get me wrong, I don't disagree with you at all. The lack of cooperation on Gruber's part still surprises me. Especially since all they wanted was his consent (well, and the name).-phitsc (September 09, 2014, 09:24 AM)
I do not want stewardship over Markdown. I want it to be a viable, community maintained open source project since millions of people rely on it. That is what open source is supposed to mean.
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And that's what they did in the end after hefinallymade it clear that he wouldn't allow the name to be used under any circumstances. That's after telling them that he might allow pedantic or strict markdown... which both don't convey what is being done at all.
...-wraith808 (September 08, 2014, 04:15 PM)
Well, the Markdown license states that the name “Markdown” may only be used with specific prior written permission. So choosing a different name right from the start, while most certainly not changing Gruber's opinion about the whole endeavor, would maybe have led to less negative reactions from some parts of the community.-phitsc (September 09, 2014, 01:36 AM)
Well, after getting setup... I see that this is not meant as your primary e-mail. At least not at 100MB and 1000 messages/month...?-wraith808 (September 08, 2014, 05:39 PM)
Considering how many people actually use encrypted mail as their primary... :shrug:
That said, yeah it doesn't seem like a whole lot, although I doubt I get more than 300 emails a month from my regular email, and I'm signed up to at least 5 subscriptions, plus Facebook and G+ notifications. Maybe 5 messages a month through the email I give out to family and friends... maybe that's saying something.-Edvard (September 08, 2014, 07:38 PM)
Oh, that Qute is sweet indeed. Although I mainly use Markdown for quick drafts for later HTML conversion. But I'll take a look.-Tuxman (September 08, 2014, 11:48 AM)
The good thing that should come out of all of this is that developers should run, not walk, to CommonMark -- and abandon Markdown as rapidly as possible.-mouser (September 08, 2014, 04:33 PM)
And I've already made clear that I believe standardization -- especially in the form it was done here -- is a good and important thing.
So the only real question in my mind is what you do when the original inventor becomes an obstacle to the continuing use and development of the project.
And I think my position is that when this happens, and attempts to convince the original inventor to join the team fails, that perhaps the best solution is to make a clean break from the original name of the invention and come up with a clearly different name -- even though that could lead to some (initial or continuing) confusion for users.-mouser (September 08, 2014, 03:46 PM)
I agree mouser that choosing a different name and just stating that one of the main goals was Markdown compatibility would probably have been better.-phitsc (September 08, 2014, 04:08 PM)
Wow - I had no idea.
I might look at that Sublime Text setup for Markdown - I like that it's cross platform.
-mwb1100 (September 08, 2014, 02:30 PM)
Security is a practice that must be adhered to at all times ... It is not something you install and then blindly trust to just work.-Stoic Joker (September 08, 2014, 11:50 AM)
Some of them were indeed new to me. But I wonder why you like MD inside VS but rant about .net...-Tuxman (September 08, 2014, 11:19 AM)
I do not want stewardship over Markdown. I want it to be a viable, community maintained open source project since millions of people rely on it. That is what open source is supposed to mean.
I'd never seen this before. At first I thought it was a parody, but no, it's the real deal.-Renegade (September 07, 2014, 02:21 AM)
Wow! I'm a big Markdown fan myself. Didn't know about this dispute though. Would be interesting to know what goes on inside Gruber's head. Seems like he missed the chance to be part of something important. I'm actually surprised how much effort the team behind CommonMark put into getting him on board. With the attitude he demonstrates, I think I would have just ignore him much sooner.-phitsc (September 07, 2014, 01:56 PM)
