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Living Room / Re: A change I've seen in the forum
« Last post by TaoPhoenix on March 15, 2012, 07:45 PM »
I was saying earlier that a couple of the threads might properly be announced as more freeform, so it's the "outlet" for keeping most of the others on track.

I think that the "Living Room" doubles almost too much duty, so that we're seeing a clash of function. For the software discussions, I certainly can see if 4 people want to thrash about whether Windows 8 is the AntiChrist or just foolish, and then 3 more take one unfortunate phrase to descend into Monty Python skits, that would be irritating.

But some threads in some category have to be more free wheeling by overall decree, so if it's a Living Room / OffBeat/ Humor / etc post you reverse it and go there PRECISELY because anything short of total flamebait goes. I am a strong proponent of the "Intuitive Anti-Reasoning" theory seen in some of the cool detective shows like Psych, Monk, etc, that beautiful things can suddenly emerge out of an elliptical chain of anti-reasoning that cannot be duplicated in any formally structured way.

(Really - A trick I used to use to pretend to be an AI bot on old school chat rooms morphed into a game changing timesaver at work. And y'all wouldn't believe the Rube Goldbergs I've chained out of yours and other apps. Anyone else try Transdesk - Screen Captor - Stickies - Paint.Net - and Adobe Acrobat Pro to make ebooks?)

Any of those individual components "makes no sense" because you don't know that you want an Ebook Creator - it's all Pure Research until the last hour when it clicks.
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Living Room / Re: A change I've seen in the forum
« Last post by TaoPhoenix on March 15, 2012, 03:21 PM »
Let's suppose for a moment that we separate the situation between Living Room and the other boards. Very roughly I don't recall as much chaos on the other boards either.

Let's look a the forum title and description:
"Living Room
General discussions and topics that don't fit in other sections"

That's pretty open ended. It we are deciding we want a bit more structure even in the Living Room ("No Religious Immolation In Fire in the Living Room?!"), then I think three more boards would fix it.
News - for all the SOPA type stuff discussions.
Humor - probably the most common type of derailment
Offbeat or even the "DC Chapter of the Longest Thread Ever".
Your choice of one more if I missed something.
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I'm going to pass on this one; I don't have time for such a complex project.

Thanks for looking and responding though, Skwire.
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Elsewhere I'll go into a couple of dissertations on the theme of commissions - I think it's in the running for part of the future of the web.

Also there could be other commissions later on if anyone else is generally interested.
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Meanwhile, the code text is a bit of a gooey html with a lot of duplicate-looking formatting, so the starting file isn't plain text, it's a web page, hence the thread title.

I think a key feature is for the app to read a proposed CSS design and intelligently find the (Spans?) etc where the text goes, so that outside of Zen Garden I can go to places on the net with free CSS templates etc.

Absolutely crucial is for the app to read the entire site folder with its nested items, figure out the whole linked site, and output a similar/paired site that "just works".

Maybe later on another task I'd want an upgrade/other app that adds chat boxes/site comments/etc. I don't know what that's about yet.

More essential features - I  kinda dislike databases, because it's "all that data in a big blob". I did a modestly detailed study of "Tree Databases" a while back, and in a close call this one beat out the runner up because it created mostly intelligent child html files. (The other one felt like it was creating "data trap" because the output files were total gibberish.) But the html files are not quite perfect - "FreedomCody1436.html, IHateSOPA2334.html" etc. So the app should be able to do a mass file rename, check if there are any collisions, and if not, take all the numbers off of the ends.

It should be able to "clean up the code" on the child pages too. Another plus of the winning program is that all told, the pages aren't artificially obfuscated. They just offend my simplicity aesthetics by blasting out (thematically, the syntax is fake) "Format Arial 10 pt font left justified &nbsp&nbsp&nbsp&nbsp&nbsp&nbsp&nbsp&nbsp&nbsp position justified=1 border pixel=2" for every paragraph or such. I roughly think all that is the job of the CSS side, so I think the right result is just simple barebones html and <BR> breaks. (And even when I'm not using CSS then I let browsers pick their own defaults anyway so clean code is nicer on my eyes.)

More things - it should do light graphics handling to insert icons and text into the graphics, and be able to do extremely basic graphic management, maybe checking for missing graphics and making a list, and maybe a rough pixel count or something of the graphics width against a rough width of the text, so that when my long topic names trail in an ugly mess off the graphic I can get a list of which graphics to go open in an editor and try to expand or something.

Be ready for a couple more features as they pop up.

The intended license is one of the Creative Commons variants that I'll figure out later.

We'll have to check with Mouser on NANY to do dual credit so I am Commissioner (uh... or something) and the coder(s!?) get NANY credit (but I don't want to wait til December!) because the point of the site is creating fun software but I can't pay any of your "billable rates" - about all I can roughly allocate is the initial $50 and possibly another $50 on either part 2 or a second app.

Regards to all,

--Tao
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Skwire, you're on the wavelength, but there are some sneaky things to solve under the hood. That's why this is a commission, because I feel it's def. more than a "Coding Snack". Probably a "Coding Lunch".   :D

I'm not sure what it does to my writing style, but the text would go in the same "places, plural" because many templates have little call-out boxes. Not counting copyright situations, a big inspiration is the CSS Zen Garden. I have a vague psychology experiment planned dealing with taking the same articles and dropping them (with this proposed app) into different templates and suddenly it looks like entirely different sites.

The genius of the "Tree Database" program I found is that all the misery of hand linking and uploading pages is gone - I can just type updates large and small all across my articles, and then smash out the whole thing into an entire site. In fancy business terms it's related to "Turnkey".


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Quick note to Ath - that sounds like something interesting for a different question. Excel isn't anywhere near this in the original components. On the far side of a use case is whether someone uses Excel as part of the solution with something else ahead of it on the front end.
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Living Room / Re: New Time management system from Mark Forster
« Last post by TaoPhoenix on March 15, 2012, 09:52 AM »
Okay, y'all have surprised me. To me this is the Scarlet C (for Copyright) staring me in the face, because, wait for it ... "distributing it is 'wrong' ".

Watch what happens when you / if he were to (pick a grammar case) change it to a Creative Commons license - that means the owner WANTS it to get out!

The future of content is Freemiums and riding viral waves. Secret email lists are what feel wrong to me. (Email? Really?!)

I know, it's an angle at collecting value etc, it just feels to me like it's headed into an evolutionary dead end type path.
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Living Room / Re: Britannica - would you buy it on (say) Kindle or Nook?
« Last post by TaoPhoenix on March 15, 2012, 09:47 AM »
There's an idea that kicks around in Business circles called Good Enough. It's a tricky thing because on some things you should want to pay a little (sometimes a lot) more for real quality. Then just when that sounds obvious, on other things you need to save cash This Week, so then something cheaper in price with some of the original function gets you by or is even just fine!

So of course Britannica is more authoritative - but how much does it cost? And THAT's your comparison vs Wikipedia.

Edit: Meanwhile, I wouldn't want it on the e-readers at all - I'd want it on my high end desktop that can crunch the info and do stuff to it.
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General Software Discussion / Re: How to become Admin' for real?
« Last post by TaoPhoenix on March 14, 2012, 07:24 PM »
I had the permissions problem also, but ever since I disabled the UAC, I now own my computer again, and I can save files anywhere I want.

I think I second this, once you tell all of UAC to go to San Terrandino Franciscan University (STFU) and not bother you again, I have never seen those kinds of messages.
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Living Room / Re: New Time management system from Mark Forster
« Last post by TaoPhoenix on March 14, 2012, 07:05 PM »
I'm always amazed that some people feel the need to make you jump through hoops just to get some straight information out of them about something.

Yeah, I'm not really sure what that's about.
Normally I wouldnt post something so obscure, but he got a fair bit of attention during the Getting Organised Experiments here.

I remember that. That's why I was semi-interested in what he had to say.

I could copy and paste his email but I think that would probably be against his wishes. Hopefully he'll "out" it on his site soon.

I agree. I don't like his approach - although he may also have a very good reason for doing it this way he hasn't shared with us yet.

And...he is the author...so I think it's only right we respect his wishes and not broadband his emails if we do decide to receive them.


Much appreciated. Now that I'm more fully coherent (and in an admittedly less cranky mood now that my allergy meds have started working) I'll probably subscribe too.
 :)

I slightly disagree - this is that Copyright effect again - what's the only limitation? That we "subscribe"? Of course he knows the smart folks will "subscribe" with a junk email. I already have this system set up. Didn't Facebook perfect the "sharing and liking"? So Old Web 2.0 was "Oh, someone has the email,share it". New Web 2.1 or 2.5 is "Eek Copyright sux, maybe we better not."

Do you really expect info to stay behind walled gardens?

If it didn't take work ideologically I'd sign up then private-email all comers of the result.

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Living Room / Re: New Time management system from Mark Forster
« Last post by TaoPhoenix on March 14, 2012, 07:01 PM »
I'm always amazed that some people feel the need to make you jump through hoops just to get some straight information out of them about something.

Yeah, I'm not really sure what that's about.
Normally I wouldnt post something so obscure, but he got a fair bit of attention during the Getting Organised Experiments here.

I could copy and paste his email but I think that would probably be against his wishes. Hopefully he'll "out" it on his site soon.


edit/ If I get the time to have a closer look I'll report back.

THIS is what Copyright has gotten us into.
Enough with this controlling junk!
4113

Okay, Update -

No one bit at this, I get it.

Meanwhile, a promising approach seems to be to smash the output site / text into a CSV styler design. Then it becomes a Universal page. But this still needs work.
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Meanwhile I have a small graph, you can't stop all tracking but I close my browser enough it clearly isn't getting all my links (which is good?)

Tip : Youtube goes off like a machine gun when I search - one cookie per letter!

Edit: I just turned Ghostery back on, but I am still getting clicks from Youtube. So is that a false positive from the Collusion that it "attempted to set a cookie" or is Youtube setting something else that Ghostery can't find and block?
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I am curious to know: What sad part of the world would you have to live in to need to protect your sandwiches from being stolen?

School bullies don't steal geek's lunches in other countries?  :o

I thought that was your "startup investment" to building the brains you need later in life.
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How do you make those graphs?

Meanwhile I turned on the "click" and it's like a camera snapshot saying a cookie has been set.
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Just a word of support, I like charts and numbers, that's a beautiful graphic of something I never thought of! (Number of lines per actor/character per episode).

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Living Room / Re: URGENT Board Mod Request: Sobriety Mod
« Last post by TaoPhoenix on March 11, 2012, 02:45 PM »
Well, I must say... Just got back home after a few weeks in Asia, and my home brew is damn good! Mind you, it's pretty explosive when popping a bottle, but it's fine beer.

I should probably say, ;-} * 0.75 though, as I'm not that far ahead, but I'll *drink* on it. ;D

Now, once I clear out the backlog of *brew* I have, it's back to the brew store to get more and start brewing again. :D

Now, if you'll all excuse me, I need to get back to some serious drinking. :P

Tweaked that for you :)
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I've written about this before.. It's a very strange sad feeling as a programmer when you find that someone else has coded a program you wanted to write, and done a good job, leaving you with no real reason to write your program, but still the lingering urge to do so.   But with so many program ideas floating around, it just seems a waste to write something that already exists.

Sorry to Zombify a thread, but I couldn't help noticing the tone - how about when the original developer abandons their pages and moves on? That original page is coming up 404. Looks like there are legacy copies floating around in bundles and download aggregators, but does that change anything about the urge to write these kinds of programs?
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Original Batch Page:
http://www.freevoteusa.com/index.html

Eye-Bleeding demo of concept:
http://taophoenix.de...com/Tests/toc22.html

That was from the free NetObjects Fusion Essentials. (I crossed the gray line and downloaded a copy of NOF 11 cracked, and the same page didn't even load! Saved $200.)

It's important to me to retain that dynamic collapsing menu.

Anyone dare to take this on?  Or am I a deluded aging birdie?
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Developer's Corner / Potential Commission: "Super WebPage Post-Processor"
« Last post by TaoPhoenix on March 11, 2012, 03:50 AM »
Okay gang, having made friends, fans, the token enemy, and a donation, now it's time to see where the economics of this site are.

I spent all night testing out about fifteen web author tools and only one came marginally close to something that I would like.

After years of writer's blocks and short attention spans, I finally stumbled upon the "Tree Pads" as a tool that creates nested nodes of notes and can power-export the entire database as a dynamic web page.

Trouble is, it's just a bit bare. It would be nice if those pages were end-capped by some templating.

In a sense, it's a third cousin type app to my PGN processor, in that it should be just straight text manipulation tucking the note into a web template. So that's why I say "It isn't that hard" - sure there are quirks, but the concept feels simple - take X supported template, drop the note text into the middle of it, and resave the file, and recurse for all the eligible files in a folder.

In a minute I'll post a brutal sandpaper-rough example of the output from the only program was was even in the ballpark.

I'd peg the value to me at about $50.

Anyone interested?
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Living Room / Re: A reminder for those who have recently donated
« Last post by TaoPhoenix on March 10, 2012, 09:45 PM »
Thanks for the donation, TaoPhoenix.  Much appreciated.

Yep! And I just went through the forum Distribution screen so it should be there soon.
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Living Room / Re: A reminder for those who have recently donated
« Last post by TaoPhoenix on March 10, 2012, 08:17 PM »
Thanks for the nice words, dadndave.  Much appreciated.   :Thmbsup:

Even better than nice words are some nice dollars!
I donated today!

"$7 General/Fees and please give $10 each to Skwire, Mouser, and Kyrathaba"

Since I despise Paypal so much I'd sound like Renegade, Waith, and 40hz, I went with Kagi.

Transaction ID:
Order Date:
CHWZ25CMH3Q4EY4HW
2012/03/10 18:09:00

Now can I please pester you some more Skwire?  :P
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Living Room / Re: URGENT Board Mod Request: Sobriety Mod
« Last post by TaoPhoenix on March 10, 2012, 03:37 AM »
Nah, I'm a pacifist. Running down an ego "hurts me more than it hurts them".
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Living Room / Re: URGENT Board Mod Request: Sobriety Mod
« Last post by TaoPhoenix on March 10, 2012, 03:26 AM »

Part of it comes from having made a complete and total ass of yourself, with all the guilt, remorse, and embarrassment that goes along with that. Several times. At least.

For those that don't drink, if they monkey up once, they'll still never be able to get to that point of being shitfaced and knowing to not click POST. It takes practice! Lots of it! Like, cases and cases of beer, vodka, whiskey... It's a serious financial investment! ;D

Another thing that helps, is being able to figure out that the last sentence you typed took 5 minutes. And it was only 10 words. That you retyped several times each because you're so blasted that you can barely type. And when you can become aware of that, then it's only a slight, tiny step more to becoming aware of the high probability that clicking POST will make you look like a total fool. :D

I would encourage people to break out a bottle of your favourite liquor, some ice, mixer, and your favourite heavy bottom high-ball glass (because when you really drink, those tiny whiskey glasses are for pussies!), and try it out! Get into some forum with highly controversial topics, or lots of trolls. Probably make a new account though... See if you can make the account sober first and write it down, as you might not remember later. Then, see if you've made an idiot of yourself. If you did, well, forget that account and try, try again! ;D

Nah, not my style. I practiced hard to run Neo-Turing tests while partying. I'm under 1% aggressive posts in my net career, and under 5% of glaring typos, and I've had my share of mixers! But then, that's been my obscure honor code. "Partying is no excuse for a bad post."
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