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They're already there - I doubt you're going to find a retail motherboard without that functionality.

I'm interested in one that can more easily toggle between than the current ones seem to be set up to do.

Right now it seems to be handled more like a setting - as in something that doesn't normally get selected each time you fire it up.

Although that may also be because I just haven't seen a mobo that does it that way yet. ;D
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Living Room / Re: Bill Gates has donated over $36,854,000,000 in his lifetime
« Last post by 40hz on February 09, 2013, 01:43 PM »
Not necessarily rewarded per-se... but it just struck me as odd when someone does something and it's like "it's not enough".  I remember when Oprah opened a school in Africa (not saying anything about what happened after), but people criticized her saying she should have given it to the education board in Chicago.

+1 :Thmbsup:

One unfortunate side effect of our holier-than-thou culture is the growing number of people who would rather see nothing good get done if the act and motivation didn't meet their own personal standards for selflessness and moral purity. And should a charitable act ever be done in a manner that doesn't meet with their approval, they're often quick to criticize.

But tthe ruth is, very little of what passes for altruistic behavior is ever totally lacking in at least a hint of self-interest - or some hidden motive.

To which I say: So what?

I'll take somebody up on doing something good whenever they offer. And I'm sure the beneficiaries of that sort of largess won't be complaining much either.
 ;)


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Can someone distill the implications here? I've got my own take, but it may be skewed as I don't really like being controlled...

Distilled and in 25 words or less: I'm afraid your take is likely to be 100% correct. 8)

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Hmm...Wonder how long it's going to be before somebody innovative (like Gigabyte) introduces a true dual-boot mobo that you can soft switch to boot either via UEFI or traditional BIOS.
 :tellme:
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Living Room / Re: Flash Under Attack, Emergency Patch Issued
« Last post by 40hz on February 08, 2013, 07:32 PM »
Version 11.2.202.262 should be available in all major Linux distro repositories by now. :Thmbsup:
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better.gif

Since I'm still getting up to speed on Secure Boot, consider this nothing more than an FYI post. :)

Linux Foundation Secure Boot System Released
Posted on 8 February 2013 by jejb   


As promised, here is the Linux Foundation UEFI secure boot system.  This was actually released to us by Microsoft on Wednesday 6 February, but with travel, conferences and meetings I didn’t really get time to validate it all until today.  The files are here

    PreLoader.efi (md5sum 4f7a4f566781869d252a09dc84923a82)
    HashTool.efi (md5sum 45639d23aa5f2a394b03a65fc732acf2)

I’ve also put together a mini-USB image that is bootable (just dd it on to any USB key; the image is gpt partitioned, so use the whole disk device).  It has an EFI shell where the kernel should be and uses gummiboot to load.  You can find it here (md5sum 7971231d133e41dd667a184c255b599f).

To use the mini-USB image, you have to enroll the hashes for loader.efi (in the \EFI\BOOT directory; actually gummiboot) as well as shell.efi (in the top level directory).  It also includes a copy of KeyTool.efi which you have to enrol the hash of to run as well.

Read full article and find download links here.
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Living Room / Re: Yet another reason why I often wish I lived in Massachusettes
« Last post by 40hz on February 08, 2013, 02:29 PM »
First, I'll slip in the observation that you've implicitly acknowledged that taxes *do* harm people. I imagine that you'd admit to that, but say that it's a necessary evil, and we shouldn't make the weakest elements of our society be harmed by them even more than the rich folk.

Some of that is painting with too broad a brush. And evil is much too strong and emotional a word to be used in this context. (I also consider the phrase "necessary evil" to be an oxymoron -  but lets save that for different discussion.)

I would say that:

taxes have a measurable impact on peoples lives
some people will have their living standard negatively impacted by taxes
taxation's negative impact affects people disproportionately
and those people most negatively impacted by taxes are primarily found in a society's lower economic stratas

I would say that just as each member of a society owes a basic but very real debt to the society they are a part of; so too does that same society have an obligation, in return, to do all that is humanly possible to ensure a decent and dignified standard of living for all its members.

I would also disagree that the above must therefor embrace the notion of "entitlement" (as some would insist) in order for it to accomplish that goal.

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Ok, the tax issue:

Regarding taxes on food, this is CT current tax rule.If you glance through it I think you can see that much in it will hit the poorer elements of society in that the  items generally non-taxable are not ready to eat.  Most non-taxable foods will require some preparation prior to consumption. Something not always possible for many low-income apartment or rooming house dwellers, many who don't have kitchen privileges. And thats also something bordering on impossible for virtually anybody who is homeless.

Personal Care Items

The 6% sales tax applies to shampoo, shaving cream, cosmetics, hair care products, toothpaste, and other personal care items sold in retail stores. But such products are not taxed if sold:

1. to federal, state, or local governments or one of their agencies (§ 12-412 (1));

2. to or by a nonprofit charitable hospital, nursing home, rest home, or residential care home (§ 12-412 (5));

3. to any charitable, religious, or similar organization exempt from federal income taxes (§ 12-412 (8));

4. for $20 or less by any Connecticut nonprofit organization or school for support of youth or student activities (§ 12-412 (26));

5. for 50¢ or less from a vending machine or unattended honor box (§ 12-412 (27));

6. to a center of service for elderly persons (§ 12-412 (35));

7. for $100 or less through a gift shop in a nursing home, rest home, residential care home, convalescent home, or adult day care center, if the profits from the sales are used for the benefit of the residents or people using the center (§ 12-412 (56));

8. by nonprofit organizations at bazaars, fairs, picnics, tag sales, or similar events held no more than five times per year (§ 12-412 (94)); or

9. by an historical society (§ 12-412 (98)).

So as you can see, any personal care items purchased at a discount store or pharmacy are taxable in CT.

The exemption for nonprescription drugs and medicines, and smoking cessation products is repealed effective July 1, 2011 (pursuant to 2011 Conn. Pub. Acts 6)

Prescription medication and most medical equipment is currently tax free in CT. List here. But over the counter medications, nutritional supplements, cold remedies, pain relievers, etc. (which are the types of medications most lower income people use) are all subject to sales tax. That exemption was repealed two years ago. (See alert at top of published reg.)

Effective July 1, 2011, the sales tax exemption for clothing and footwear under $50 is repealed.  The general sales tax rate of 6.35% applies to most sales of clothing and footwear.
  
A tax rate of 7% applies to the sale for more than $1,000 of an article of clothing or footwear intended to be worn on or about the human body, a handbag, luggage, umbrella, wallet or watch.

So virtually all clothing in CT is subject to a full sales tax treatment. The sole exception is a one week amnesty period at the end of the summer. This is often referred to as the "back to school" tax break. Supposedly it was enacted to allow parents of growing children a break on clothing purchased for the upcoming school year. Most view it more as a bone thrown to clothing retailers since clothing and shoe prices all mysteriously seem to go (and stay) up a few percentage points around the end of July each year.

There's also good chance this tax break will be repealed sometime either this year or next.

Rent is not taxable in CT. But property taxes have skyrocketed throughout the state since CT has significantly reduced the amount it gives back to municipalities in order to provide mandated services - because it has had its own check sliced by the federal government who needs money for corporate bailouts, to replace monies not paid which have now underfunded its own employee retirement plans, plus the never ending need for newer bombs, attack drone planes, super carriers, and other much more important things like that.

Unfortunately, there is no rent control in CT.  So all increases in taxes, permits, maintenance, and utilities get passed directly back to the renters. Because the state pays fixed rental fees for those on public assistance, many former low-income dwellings are being gentrified or converted into condos. With a result, the amount of available public housing and qualifying "rent assistance" apartments in CT are dwindling. The average waiting period from the application to the granting of a request for public housing or rent assistance is roughly 5 years in CT. (Note: if approved for rent assistance in CT, it is the also responsibility of the renter to find a qualifying apartment. The state does not do placements.)

So in light of the above, I think it safe to say taxes definitely have an adverse and disproportionate impact on lower income people CT.

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You're also assuming that the portion of the rich guy's income that's not being spent on essentials will escape taxation. But in fact, Daddy Warbucks will either be spending his money (in which case it still gets taxed, so he winds up paying tremendously more), or it gets invested. And encouraging investment is a very good thing, because it leads to greater productivity, more jobs, etc.

Oh lordy, lordy, Lady Diana!
 ;D ;D ;D ;D Is that the old "trickle down economy" argument? I have a bloody degree in accounting - and many years in Fortune 5 (not 500) corporate finance, so please... I know how these people think. And that's because (to my lasting shame) I was once one of them.

Ah me! I thought that fairy tale was debunked and put to bed once and for all when Bonzo Ronnie Regan went to Washington.

During the big run-up in the 80s and 90s, the biggest beneficiaries were: banks, arbitragers, junk bond merchants and Japanese and German sports car manufacturers. (Things which cost taxpayer billions on bailouts, naive investors millions in savings - and absolutely gutted the American automobile industry which caused the permanent loss of thousands of formerly well paying jobs.)

When Daddy has "fun" money to spend he's not going down to a local store to buy a new dish washer or sofa set. He's buying foreign made luxury goods, imported diamonds, South African gold - or spending money overseas leasing some exclusive resort condo on the Côte d'Azur. Assuming, that is, he doesn't just buy one outright.

And if Daddy Warbucks has an extra few millions to spend, he's certainly not going to invest it here! He can get a ten to fifty times better return on investment using it to shut down a US business - and then move the operation over to Asia or Indochina in order to cash in on that "slave in everything but name" labor market.

Sorry if I appear to be crying "Bollocks!!!" and come across as being cynical.

It only looks that way because I am. ;D :Thmbsup:

@CW - Sorry if I also sound overly harsh about this item. None of my spleen is directed at you personally. It's just I saw what that silly myth did to business and society back in the 80s. And I can only hope "we don't get fooled again."

 :Thmbsup:
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General Software Discussion / Re: Directory Opus 10
« Last post by 40hz on February 08, 2013, 12:13 PM »
@tomos +1 w/SB. Very cool! :Thmbsup:

(That program never ceases to amaze me when I see what clever people do with it.)
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Living Room / Re: Payphones - Thoughts?
« Last post by 40hz on February 08, 2013, 11:56 AM »
We had Southern New England Telecommunications (SNET) which was not a Baby Bell since AT&T never owned more than 20% of it. It was considered one of only two effective independent phone companies in the USA at the time of AT&T's court-ordered faux breakup.

old bell.png

Southern New England Telecommunications took to calling itself SNET (always pronounced "ess-enn-eee-tee" never 'snet") which was eventually acquired by SBC Communications and given a swanky new logo:

new logo.gif

SBC Communications eventually begat Ameritech which is now a subsidiary of AT&T once again.

Like Saint Joni said:

And the seasons they go round and round
And the painted ponies go up and down
We're captive on the carousel of time...
We can't return we can only look
Behind from where we came...
And go round and round and round
In the circle game


All our phone booths (with their filthy screaming neon yellow handsets) were owned by SNET and flew the SNET logo right up until they slowly disappeared. Or at least have around where I am. ;D

phoneb.jpg  

They were just plastic or perforated metal half-boxes mounted on a pole. Supposedly they got away from the traditional full booths with doors to save money and prevent homeless people from monopolizing them in cold weather.
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General Software Discussion / Re: Avast Installs Chrome
« Last post by 40hz on February 08, 2013, 10:41 AM »
@Dormouse - Yup. I'll go to Softpedia, Filehippo, or even MajorGeeks - or just about anywhere else before I'll even think about looking at CNET. Which is a shame. It used to be such a good website.

Checkout FreewareBB (if you haven't already) when you get a chance. Some very interesting and useful things to look at. They list many excellent titles which don't seem to ever get listed elsewhere. :Thmbsup:
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General Software Discussion / Re: Directory Opus 10
« Last post by 40hz on February 08, 2013, 10:29 AM »
Or then, explain to me why I'd be totally wrong again, by asking for features that should have been available for the last 15 years.

The features are available. But apparently it was the people that wrote Directory Opus who saw the potential and put in the time to write a program that provides them. And they (correctly IMO) guessed that those people who truly wanted - or actually needed - those features would be willing to buy D-Opus. Everybody else would just make do with whatever else they could get.

And so far, it looks like they were right about that.

I admire D-Opus. I would love to own a copy. But I really can't justify paying $69 for the amount of use I'd get out of it - or for those rare times when I definitely could benefit from some of the unique "power user" features it supports. That's just the way it goes sometimes. YMMV.

So in answer to your question why should you buy something like that - the simple answer is because it seems to be the only way you're going to be able to get it. Nobody is under any obligation to write software just because somebody else wants it. Most programs are born out of a personal desire or need for something that doesn't exist. When that happens to somebody with sufficient coding skills, a new app sometimes gets written. But that doesn't obligate the coder to share, or even sell it, if they don't want to.

C'est la vie. Try not to let it get you too frustrated. :)
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General Software Discussion / Re: Avast Installs Chrome
« Last post by 40hz on February 08, 2013, 10:07 AM »
I tried downloading something from CNET recently, and found that it wanted to use a CNET installer and was going to install other stuff. I left it and found the software available on Softpedia with no extra stuff. I can't remember what the program was, but I've avoided CNET since.

That was definitely a jive move on CNET's part. But  they got so much backlash on it that they now furnish a very discreet link on most software titles that will let you go directly to the developer's webpage. If you open the full specs link from the product's main page you'll find it. Unfortunately more than a few devs are now either hosting their downloads on CNET's servers - or have cut a deal with them. So now, even if you go to some dev's homepage, their download link will still direct you back to CNET for the actual download.

P1.png

In the case of a product like Piriform's CCleaner, the link goes directly to Prirform homepage. And the download can be done directly from Piri. But other products like Virtual DJ, just send you back to CNET.

I have a firm rule that if a product is only available using the CNET loader, I'll pass. There's enough good stuff out there that we shouldn't have to put up with that.
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Also, given that Discourse is open source, you can choose to host it yourself if you don't mind the hassle, and think you can do it cheaper?

And we all know how well that works out for most people with little experience and no money whenever they expose a server to the internet. ;D

They understand how to make a Q&A site work - and work extremely well. That's no guarantee they'll be as successful with forum software, it's quite a different goal.

Thank you for pointing that out. You are 100% spot on. :Thmbsup: Because a discussion is not the same thing as a Q&A session. Q&A is a much easier thing to get your head around and administrate than an open discussion will ever be if more than two people are participating in it.
 8)

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@f0dder - did you see this? Ruby on top of Python on top of RPython ala PyPy? Wonder if this project will ever see the light of day - or last more than a year if it does?
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Living Room / Re: Yet another reason why I often wish I lived in Massachusettes
« Last post by 40hz on February 08, 2013, 09:01 AM »
Going down the drain or being flushed? ;)

Hey, are those dots turds? :P ;D

Nope. They represent the heads of a couple of "the little people" who are about to "go down." Like a few always do any time the bottom falls out. ;)
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General Software Discussion / Re: Avast Installs Chrome
« Last post by 40hz on February 08, 2013, 08:56 AM »
At least with Open Candy it's right out in the open and obvious and you can opt out or opt in if you like.

Provided the developer plays by the rules. OC has taken steps to try and ensure that. Not everybody else has.

In the end, however, the responsibility must always rest with the developer. The piggy-back crowd still needs to have somebody bundle them in.

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Living Room / Re: Yet another reason why I often wish I lived in Massachusettes
« Last post by 40hz on February 08, 2013, 08:45 AM »
Then we get around to how the extreme left and right wrap around and there's no real difference between socialism and fascism.

A professor of mine once said that if you take Hegel's Philosophy of Right, and go to the extreme right with it, you arrive at fascism. If taken to the extreme left, you end up with socialism.

It's your basic yin-yang.

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from the 40hz Dictionary:

Yin-yang (n.) -  ancient symbol representing the pattern formed when everything is going down the drain.

yin.jpg  drain.jpg

                                      Coincidence?

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Living Room / Re: Yet another reason why I often wish I lived in Massachusettes
« Last post by 40hz on February 08, 2013, 08:25 AM »
^Nope. If there were, we'd already have them - and probably be doing it. :)

Or (knowing how people sometimes behave) maybe not? ;D
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Living Room / Re: Yet another reason why I often wish I lived in Massachusettes
« Last post by 40hz on February 08, 2013, 08:11 AM »
A standard tax fee for all people (say, $X,000 per person) is regression-neutral: everyone has to pay exactly the same amount, so it's neither regressive nor progressive. A flat income tax (e.g., 11% of your income) is progressive, because those making more money have to pay more money. Our marginally-increasing income tax you might think of as being doubly-progressive, because its progressive scales up super-linearly.

Possibly. But only if you ignore the fact a flat fee or percentage disproportionately impacts those in lower income levels who can least afford the hit.

By example a flat fee type tax of $5000 per person presents a much greater hit on a person's standard of living if they're only making $15,080 (min wage x 2080 hrs) annually than it does somebody making $50,000. It's 33% vs 10% of their respective incomes.

A flat percentage does much the same except in a less obvious manner. If we were to go with a hypothetical flat percentage of 15% on income then the minimum wage earner would pay $2,262 leaving a disposable (rounded) income of 12,800. The 50k earner would pay $7,500. But that would leave them with a disposable income of $42,500.

Now if you consider the potential lifestyles of these two flat percentage taxpayers, it becomes very obvious that even as little as a few hundred dollar per year would yield significantly greater and measurable benefit (i.e. more or better food, uninsured medical expenses, etc.) to the lower earner than the higher one.

The difference in lifestyle between a multi-millionaire and a billionaire isn't all that great. Between somebody making $15k a year and somebody making $35k it's huge.

So once again, a flat rate will still adversely impact those earners in the lower income brackets. Especially since costs for food, minimal housing, transportation, and medical care - along with most other necessities - are much the same no matter what your income level. And the thing that differentiates the needy from the affluent is how well their disposable income can cover such necessities - and how much surplus is left over for luxuries or higher quality goods and services.

Is this "fair?"

I don't know since what constitutes "fairness" and "equality" depends on who you ask. There are arguments that say the poor disproportionately access public services and benefits and therefor "get back" more of what they contribute via taxes. There are others who argue (not without cause) that if there weren't such arbitrary and illogical discrepancies in wage levels, there would be significantly less need for so many publicly supported social services...and so it goes.

No easy answers.

And in this particular case, I don't think that a "flat" tax (despite it surface appeal) is really an answer - unless you have a fundamentally socialist system and with a regulated economy where prices are controlled and much of what is privately provided in the USA would be handled by the government.

But socialist systems also tend to stifle innovation and dampen individual achievement and ambition (because why bother?) so that's not an easy answer either...

One real problem with the US system is that we currently have a hodge-podge of socialist and non-socialist programs and practices which gives us the worst of both politico-economic philosophies.



It just goes on and on.

Economics isn't called "the Dismal Science" for nothing. ;D

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Addendum: FWIW, sales tax is a flat tax - and it also hits the lower income bracket harder than it does the higher wage earners. That's been one of the biggest arguments against the "fairness" of sales tax when it's put on necessities such as: food, non-perscription medication and health products, non-luxury forms of clothing, etc.
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Living Room / Re: Payphones - Thoughts?
« Last post by 40hz on February 08, 2013, 07:30 AM »
Pay phones are still kind of necessary.

There are businesses that still have pay phones in order to keep their employees from abusing their business line. In other words, the pay phone's number is the business's official number, and no charge for incoming calls, but employees can't use it for making outgoing calls without paying.

Also, if you want to easily find a pay phone, try in front of a supermarket, where many lower income people and elderly without cell phones or cars, use them to call a taxi to haul their groceries home.

I still think they're very much necessary too. As are many other "obsolete" low-tech things (CB radio, emergency call boxes, non-digital devices in general, etc) we'd be better of having around than not.

But the payphones I was talking about were the utility variety owned by the local telco. The private ones are a different story. You do still see them in places where the disadvantaged or inconvenienced tend to gather. But I see those more like modern versions of the  regular old black dial phone that used to be in Mrs. Barski's little store over by the cash register. You could always use it to make a phone call - provided you had ten cents and didn't mind Mrs. Barski surreptitiously listening to everything you said.
 ;D
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Talking about it will only get you so far. Why not join in for a trial "suck-it-and-see" exercise?

My sentiments exactly.  :Thmbsup:

So I did...

And so far, I don't really like it.

Although maybe once it gets out of sandbox mode and gains some persistence it will be better? I don't really see how since their design is what it is. But hope springs eternal.

FWIW I have yet to see anybody handle community building or discussions better than The WELL.  :-* Which is somewhat amusing in that they were the first to do it. And not much has really changed since it began. It's still all text and no bling. And it's still all about substance.

In many respects, I think the people doing Discourse may be seeing a problem that doesn't actually exist and are now in the process of reinventing a wheel to address it.

getting us out of the 1999 design rut we're stuck in.

Seriously?

Most people who are habitués of forums don't have problems with the so-called 90's look of standard forum platforms. As long as it's not constantly getting in their face, they usually won't care. Which in turn means - the more minimalist it is - the better. At least as far as most will be concerned.

Today's forum software has a default FAQ that tells you how to make bold text, but absolutely nothing about how to moderate your forum, deal with trolls, appoint moderators, or even how to get people to visit your forum in the first place. The hard-earned sociological lessons of these 10+ year old forum communities are not being baked into their forum software at all.

Right now when you install a brand new forum, what you get is a virtual tin shack in a wasteland. It's up to you to build up civilization from scratch every single time. Of course most fail miserably, which actively makes the web worse, turning into spam filled ghost towns.

But with better forum software:

    100% free and fully open source.

    All the sociological and technical lessons of 10+ year old forum communities baked into the design of the software.

    Sane, safe out of the box defaults, but a million dials and knobs to tweak.

    A built-in immune system from trolls, spammers and bad actors.

    A comprehensive forum culture support hub at discourse.org.

We could build something closer to a Civilized Discourse Construction Kit, freely available to everyone in the world.

Wouldn't that be nice?

It would.

They have.

It's called The Well.  ;D

A "complete" membership will set you back $150 per year or $15 per month. That gets you access to an incredibly vibrant and long established community; access to all non-private conferences (some may require an invitation to participate); and the ability to start and host your own conferences - which can either be: private, by invitation, or open to the Well's membership at large.

If you just want to participate in the discussions and not host your own conferences, an "essential" membership will get you access for $100yr/$10mo.

I only mention the above because I think Discourse's proposed $19-$99/mo "small business" hosting price is a little on the steep side. Especially considering how I don't see that much else being put on the table that the current incarnation of Discourse has a sufficient enough USP to charge premium prices.

I could go on and on...

Oh well...I wish them the best in their endeavor. Hopefully they will eventually create something truly unique and usable. Genuine innovation is always welcome.
 8)
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Living Room / Re: fixed glasses
« Last post by 40hz on February 08, 2013, 06:22 AM »
I've learned to dislike rimless glasses

I think that the objective fact that rimless glasses do not limit the optical field, should make them number one option

Purely a matter of personal preference. The thin frames don't impair the optical field because your eyes learn to look around them so to speak.

My experience with rimless glasses is that they're too easy to damage and require constant "adjustment bending" since they're a little too flexible. YMMV.

That may also be a problem if you want a headband in the back to keep them on - as the picture you posted seems to indicate. , Since the only thing attached to the lenses would be the nose bridge and side pieces with a rimless design, all the pressure from the headband is going to put be on the bridge, and the lenses will constantly being pulled back and against your face like goggles. That would likely be very uncomfortable.

Maybe you'd be better off just getting contact lenses :)
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General Software Discussion / Re: Avast Installs Chrome
« Last post by 40hz on February 08, 2013, 06:07 AM »
It's been awhile since that practice was starting to become popular with certain software publishers. But from what I've read in several places, it seems to be on the rise again. And IIRC, it was always Chrome that got installed - which make me wonder what incentives Google is offering to software authors that this is now happening.

One move I've seen that's particularly annoying is to furnish only one installer for both the paid and unpaid versions of a product. The unpaid version is (supposedly) why the crapware gets installed along with it. But the problem is that if you did pay for the product you have to install it first in upaid/demo mode - and only then can you activate it with your registration key. So either way the junk comes along for the ride.

Cute huh? :-\

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Living Room / Re: fixed glasses
« Last post by 40hz on February 07, 2013, 01:01 PM »
I have a set of glasses with Flexon frames. Mine have extremely narrow rims (although rimless models are available) because I've learned to dislike rimless glasses. Coupled with a set of ultralight (and expensive)  Transitions progressive bifocal lenses, they weigh about an ounce and don't fall off my face despite my very straight nose and having very strong corrective lenses.

I'm happy with them. Sometimes I forget I have them on. Which is more than I can say for any other pair of glasses I've ever owned. And I've owned plenty.

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Living Room / Re: Free Nationwide WiFi
« Last post by 40hz on February 07, 2013, 12:44 PM »
asking someone who knows more about them, e.g. 40hz.

40hz has nothing positive to say about Mark Shuttleworth or Canonical any more. They are fallen angels AFAIC.

I consider their recent behaviors to be some of the most potentially disruptive threats ever facing Linux in particular and F/OSS as a whole.

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Living Room / Re: Payphones - Thoughts?
« Last post by 40hz on February 07, 2013, 07:24 AM »
Tons of memories. The Bell System before AT&T...

(Ah the joys of...um...watching a friend...playing around with a phreaking box or two.) ;D

I can't recall however when was the last time I saw a payphone in the US. Must be at least seven or eight years since I've seen a working one.

Interestingly, many were decommissioned and left "abandoned in place" for a few years before they were finally removed. I do remember seeing many boxes with big "not in service" stickers on them. Most were repeatedly vandalized before they were finally taken away. Guess the cost of dismantling them exceeded their surplus/scrap value so they were only removed when a landlord or municipality finally forced the issue.
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Perhaps this (is a good thing) will get people to start thinking seriously about the equally important other layers of security.

Systems people...they're so cute when they tell you their dreams... ;D

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P.S. I agree. :Thmbsup:
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