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Can we just take this as a learning experience and get back to the silly humor...
Wot, and not have the witch-burning you mean?    :tellme:
You're being no fun at all.
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I don't know how long this functionality has been available in Gmail, but I only now came across it in the GoogleSystem blog post copied below. It works rather well. Quite nifty.
(Copied below sans embedded hyperlinks/images.)
Find Gmail Receipts
May 28, 2013

Here's a way to find your receipt messages from Gmail: search for label:^smartlabel_receipt. This feature is powered by the Smart Label experiment from Gmail Labs, but you don't need to enable that experiment.
I've found receipts from PayPal, Google Play and Google Checkout, order confirmations from eBay, Amazon and other shopping sites. Gmail automatically detects receipts, just like it finds notifications, social updates, forum messages and other categories of messages.
The Smart Label feature from Gmail Labs creates filters that automatically label messages and convert system labels like ^smartlabel_receipt to user labels like Receipts. You can manually do that for receipts: click the arrow from the search box, type label:^smartlabel_receipt in the "has the words" field, click "create filter with this search", click "OK" and ignore the warning, select "Apply the label" and then "new label", create a label called "Receipts", check "Also apply filter to * matching conversations" and click "Create filter". You'll get a receipts label:

Posted by Alex Chitu at 5/28/2013 03:35:00 AM
This rather irritates me as I thought I had plenty of reason to leave Google, and then they go and do this...  (sigh).
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Here's an idea.. let's try not injecting politics into every thread.
Some tips:
Let's say you find yourself on a thread that has nothing to do with politics and you find yourself writing a post that is insulting to some political figure or party, or some religion.
Just as your about to click post, instead close the browser and go have a snack and take a break, and come back when you can resist the urge to make that post.
Or post it in the basement, or on some other forum.  Or tell it to your friends.  Or whatever.
Just resist injecting political/religious insults into a thread that has nothing to do with them.

   Was that seeming digression directed at me? Did you want to address that in this thread? If it was, and if you do, then my reply would be along these lines:
  • (a) To "political": that, if you are implying that the "Bush and Condoleezza battle plan" is a "political" joke, then I have to say that I do not see how it fits the definition of "political" at all. For example (my emphasis):
    political
    · adj.
    1 of or relating to the government or public affairs of a country. Ø interested in or active in politics.
    (Concise Oxford Dictionary, 10th Ed.)
    (So my calling that last joke "political" was in itself a joke - we are in the "silly humor - post 'em here! [warning some NSFW and adult content]", after all.)    ;)
       
       On the contrary, the only thing that could be construed as being "political" about it was that it mentioned the White House and names of US politicians, but you could put it in another country/time and change the names of the actors and it would still be amusing because it is classic black humour/satire about war and the inconvenient but civilised artificial constraints (e.g., minimising civilian casualties) that some Western warmongers peacemakers have to operate within.
       It would not be correct to call it insulting or disparaging, though there is presumably always the possibility that people who were "right-thinking" censors or overly sensitive or PC might infer that it was - for example, in places such as (say) the old USSR, or Iran or Egypt, where it could be a bit like walking on eggshells and you might find yourself up in court and sentenced to prison or being hung in doublequick time for risking saying/doing anything that could in any conceivable way be interpreted as being critical of the President or ruling Party.
       
       In any event, I am somewhat at a disadvantage here as you made your last post without answering the genuine question that I posed, viz: Which was the "political post"?
       I really was not entirely sure what you were referring to, you see, as I couldn't see that my posting the pictures of the "US presidents in uniform" (copied from a US website somewhere) was political. Was it insulting? No.
    I reckoned that the picture itself was childish and disrespectful - but that's no sin - and rather amusing as regards the last two pictures - Clinton and Obama, who both look rather silly. At least it was not as unnecessarily unkind as the "Reagan in drag" picture that someone else posted afterwards.
       
       Generally speaking, I am apolitical  and regard all politicians and their religio-political ideologies and systems for controlling/"governing" people with equal disdain, but am always very interested to understand how they got to be the way they were - e.g., including such as Slavery, Serfdom/Monarchy, Democracy, Fascism, Nazism, Secularism, Roman Catholicism (non-secular rule - e.g., as in Early Europe and the Vatican City), Islamism (non-secular rule - e.g., as in the Caliphate concept), Capitalism, Socialism, Marxism, Communism, Liberalism, Conservatism, and others.
       If I have any bias it is not so much for any particular system(s) but rather for the critical-rationalist and pragmatic approach (i.e., "What seems to have worked well in fact?"), but always based on sound theory and a few principles - including first and foremost, truth, reason, love and freedom.
    I do not insult
       Thus, I would not usually recommend, follow or criticise any particular politician, party or party line for what they are per se, but rather for what they have done and whether they had fewer identifiable flaws than the others, given the above approach.
       None of these things (or flaws) are beyond criticism, and always I would be able to see the human silliness and the often accidental humour in these things, and will point them out - warts an' all - if it seems relevant to making a valid point in the context of a given discussion.
       And there are so many flaws - but that is merely because we operate on artificial frameworks of reference constructed by us fallible humans. To paraphrase an old children's song:
       
       "Anything I can do, God can do better.
       God can do anything better than me.
       Yes he can. No he can't.
       Yes he can. No he can't.
       Yes he can. Yes he can. Yes he can!"
       _____________________________
       
       
  • (b) To "insulting to some political figure or party, or some religion":
       That is a rather wide net to cast. Again, was this directed at me? I do not recall being unnecessarily or wrongly insulting/libellous/slanderous about any political figure, party, or religion - or at least, probably no more so than others on this forum, and more probably less (e.g., see thread link below). Certainly I do not make spurious political/religious insults as you would seem to be suggesting.
    I suggest that you may need to get your facts right, and I would point to the thread referred to below as a good starting-point in my case. You may be surprised to find that you might owe me an apology.
    I generally try to speak with reason and to the truth of the matter. Sometimes the truth may be unwanted. I expect others to speak with reason and to the truth as well - for example, when I defended a class of practitioners of one religion (Islamic imams) when they seemed to be being smeared by one party in a discussion in the DC forum: (I detest the use of logical fallacies and especially ad hominem attacks)
       
       …
       It would not be correct to call this a good example of a valid argument - for anything, really.
       Furthermore it is a smear - i.e., it makes an easy and deliberately unsubstantiated and fundamentally offensive allegation about the Mullahs - one which they are not here to defend themselves from. Regardless of what our opinion might be regarding Islamists, we do not know whether this allegation is true nor, if it is true, then to what extent it is true.
       …
    __________________________
       
        - and no, I didn't "report it to the moderator" - didn't see any need to, being quite capable of confronting the irrationality on my own, and so I addressed it in a rational and matter-of-fact manner, and without "putting anyone down".
       
       Otherwise it is possible that I might have made some well-founded criticisms or jokes, or identified some irrationality (it's not difficult!) in regard to those things, but inevitably and always to make a point - hurtful though it may have been to those who might have identified themselves with the things being analysed/critiqued.
       What can I say? I am surely not responsible if some people seem unable to accept reason or the truth about their pet foibles and and seem to be unable to take responsibility for thinking critically for themselves.
       Whilst we often cannot  control what happens to us in life, how we respond to those things is largely a matter of choice. "Taking offence" or "feeling insulted/hurt" would be a matter of choice, but it certainly is not a valid reason for avoiding taking responsibility for the (ir)rationality of your paradigms, or for setting fire to the odd witch or two. 
       ____________________________
       
   Similarly, I do not choose to feel offended by your comments, if they were indeed directed at me. However, I would take issue with them and - if they are serious - especially with the context and manner of their ad hoc delivery in the NSFW funnies section.
   I always wait for reason to prevail, but, if you really intend what you seem to be saying here, then I would suggest that as the MC you could do a lot worse than put your gratuitous advice (above) on these things, together with your gratuitous advice for "political" posts, as a set of definitive guidelines for posting for us all in the forum - e.g., as you seem to have started to do in the Basement section. (Or have you already done those things?)    :tellme:
You could post the guidelines in a pinned topic, so everybody would be able to easily find and familiarise themselves with the guidelines.
   
   It occurred to me that, if you didn't possess the patience or the intestinal fortitude to complete this tedious but perhaps necessary administrative task, then you could probably take a shortcut and at the same time relieve yourself of responsibility for doing it, by saying you had to do it "to align with the UN Constitution", or something, so the UN could then shoulder all the blame. As mentioned in the above thread reference, for some time now, the UN have apparently been working on defining a new world crime of "causing offence to or insulting a religion or a person's religious beliefs" or something, so you might be able save yourself some time and crib the wording of the text of whatever draft they may already have, and cobble something up together with a suitably ambiguously definition for "political" (say). I don't have the UN link, but you should be able to find it easily enough if you google it.
   If you were indeed aiming your comments at me, then I would have to object to the manner of being publicly stigmatised in the forum, apparently for no specific or valid reason, by being singled out quite unnecessarily and selected for this form of ad hoc homily, but I presume you did it so that people could see what you were saying and what my reply might be - though that by no means justifies it.

   By all means take responsibility as the MC and tell me to (say) "make no more posts" or something, or ban me from the forum altogether - whichever you would prefer. If you asked me, I might consider (say) just sticking to doing/maintaining the mini-reviews (which I quite enjoy doing and which you have paid me handsomely and quite unexpectedly for) and you could ban me from discussion on anything that could even remotely be considered as tendentious or upsetting to those of a highly sensitive or nervous disposition or with strongly-held religio-political ideologies/beliefs in fragile paradigms that might not be able to withstand reasoned scrutiny in daylight.

   In any event, I reckon that a good old-fashioned public witch-burning might be in order and could be just the ticket to help restore things to their former, whatever-passed-for-normal levels of rationality, and to let any aggrieved persons on DCF project and release their pent-up frustrations at being unable to substantiate or really believe their savaged/wounded beliefs/opinions.
Deliverance! Vindication! What could be a better release?   :tellme:
From panto days, I have a witch's costume, a ghoulish-green papier-maché mask with a warty nose, some rope and a papier-maché stake, and lots of fiery-looking flickery sparkled papers that look like flames when you shake them, all of which I keep for just such times of foul heresy. I have been set fire to (figuratively speaking) on many occasions, so I'm your man/witch of the moment, if you want.
We could have the burning held online via webcam, with the whole jolly "bonfire" being staged in the vacant carpark outside my apartment block.
I could offer alcoholic drinks as incentive payment to a friendly "mob" of people from the apartment blocks around and about, who would be well-rehearsed to stand round the fire chanting "Burn witch, burn!" with the appropriate level of hate and anger projected in their voices. It would be a super jape and a great live webinar/webshow.
This could be a rebirth and a cleansing experience for us all, but not necessarily for our livers.

(Please note that this has been posted deliberately and not by accident in the Re: silly humor - post 'em here! [warning some NSFW and adult content] thread.)
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^^ Eh? Which was the "political post"? Do you mean mine with the assorted images of US presidents in uniform? If so, then sorry, I didn't realise that it could be construed as being "political" and could "derail the thread".
Anyway, don't knock it - I at least learned some things about US presidents from all that, and about how there is apparently a whole art form dedicated to making fun of them.     ;)

Never mind, here's another political joke:

Bush and Condoleezza battle plan.
Condoleezza Rice, George W. Bush and some Air Force generals were discussing battle plans in Iraq, over breakfast at the White House one morning.

Dick Cheney came into the room and asked "Hey guys, what are you doing?"

Condoleezza said "The Air Force have got an air strike plan here that should blow 150 senior Al Queda operatives to smithereens whilst they are all together at a religious celebration. As collateral damage, it will also take out most of their families - including women and children - and kill one very busty blonde girl.

Dick said "What? Why do you have to kill the busty blonde girl?"

Bush turned to Condoleezza and said "See? I told you no-one cared about the civilians!"
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^^ OIC, thanks.
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Good to hear.  I still have them in my RSS reader...couldn't bear to delete the feed.  =]
Yep. Ditto.
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Living Room / Re: We Are the Idiots
« Last post by IainB on May 27, 2013, 12:32 PM »
...BTW, I know this sounds twisted but I've always loved the way the spray smells... ;D - Kinda like some people liking the way petroleum products smell.
Yes, not an unpleasant smell, but I was always careful not to inhale the dust if I could help it (just to be on the safe side).
That just reminded me of:
"Breathe in the ozone, John. It's iodine."
But which is iodine and which is drains?
 - Cornwall In Childhood (John Betjeman)
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@x16wda: Apologies for my ignorance, but is that US Pres. Regan? If so, then cruel to dress him in drag (or was he that way inclined?).    :tellme:
What uniform was Pres. Clinton dressed in in that photo I submitted above? Do you know? Is it a US military one?
I think I saw news photos of Obama dressed in that ceremonial Kenyan uniform, or something, a couple of years back, but I don't know of he ever wore a US forces uniform. I gather that all US presidents are/were "Commander in Chief", but I'm not sure if that necessarily means they have/had a uniform.
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Living Room / Re: Animatable Wigglegrams - Jeffrey Friedl's Blog
« Last post by IainB on May 27, 2013, 11:45 AM »
Found this at his blog:
(Copied below sans embedded hyperlinks/images.)
A Wigglegram from Kyoto’s Stunning Haradanien Forest Garden of Blossoms
...It's been a while since I've done a wigglegram, so even though I've not yet gone over the photos from the visit, I went ahead and grabbed out enough for a wigglegram.
On the left is Damien Douxchamps, who also appeared in the last wigglegram I posted (in “A Wigglegram from the Well-Named “Fallen Leaf Shrine” in Northern Kyoto”). At right is the venerable Paul Barr.
It's not for lack of desire that I haven't been posting more wigglegrams... I take the base photos used to make them fairly often, but because I still can't do it smoothly, it takes a lot of work in Lightroom or Photoshop to smooth out frame-by-frame jumpiness. I probably spent an hour aligning the 17 photos used in this wigglegram. If anyone knows of automatic alignment software, I'd love to hear about it... it seems to be the kind of thing that software could automate.

There are more wigglegrams on my wigglegram blog category...
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Living Room / Re: We Are the Idiots
« Last post by IainB on May 27, 2013, 09:28 AM »
^^ Was it banned at one time in India? I know it is coming back into use in different parts of the world.
ddtees-in-uganda-final3.jpg
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Living Room / Re: English as it is spoke.
« Last post by IainB on May 27, 2013, 05:33 AM »
...my formal education ended at the age of 10.
Did it really? How so? I'm impressed.
I always tried my damnedest to avoid attending school, but the best I could do was miss 53% of it (on average).
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Living Room / Re: English as it is spoke.
« Last post by IainB on May 27, 2013, 05:29 AM »
Engrish as it is spoke/murdered.
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Living Room / H.264 Explained : Indy News - YouTube
« Last post by IainB on May 27, 2013, 12:22 AM »
Came across this and thought it could be useful: (I found it useful anyway as I didn't know any of this stuff)


It has this spec in it:
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Living Room / Re: We Are the Idiots
« Last post by IainB on May 26, 2013, 09:23 PM »
Yes, we are the idiots.
On the subject of insect control and DDT:
If fly spray has chemicals in it that are apparently fatally toxic to insects and potentially toxic to humans to some degree, and if the same is true of DDT, then I would not want either substance in my environment. They are potentially hazardous. For this reason I would NOT recommend spraying fly spray or DDT around the home and I would avoid exposing my family to either of these toxins/poisons.

The usual risks from toxins are typically:
(a) unknown direct harm (e.g., including cancer or organ damage) to the individuals exposed to them;

(b) unknown harm to the structure of their genes or chromosomes or reproductive functions, resulting in sterility or abnormalities - e.g., deformities or retardation - in their children.

Given these risks, to expose yourself or oblige your family to be exposed (especially without their choice) to such toxins would seem to be irresponsible if not reprehensible.

However, I would not see my risk-averse choice (above) as mandating that we ban the use of fly spray and I can't see why we should treat DDT any differently. I had never quite understood what was so 'bad' about DDT. In other words, why was it banned and not other insecticides? If DDT was indeed banned largely because of statements made in a book written for profit, then would that be a rational and scientific approach to the perceived problem? It doesn't seem to be rational.

What I would be VERY wary of is any manufacturer lobby insisting that their products were "safe" according to research sponsored by them. For example, asbestos manufacturers, cigarette manufacturers, DDT manufacturers, GM corn manufacturers - the list would be long.

An interesting green eco-fascist idea has recently been resurrected, viz:
Instead of being obsessed with killing insects, why not consume insects? Thus controlling the insect population and enjoying a varied diet with more protein.
Perhaps insects could be ground up like herbs and spices and used to flavour "exotic" dishes. Insects would have less fat than meat and more likely be better for your digestive system (this is a purely speculative conclusion of course). I can find no research to suggest that consuming large quantities of insects is linked to bowel cancer - unlike consuming red meat. Perhaps you could mash up insects and make a "all insect pattie" - rather like the new angus burger at McDonalds.
Perhaps flies have health properties when ingested, perhaps they could be marketed as the new "super oil" (like omega 3 fish oils). Imagine that!

One interesting "scientific" perspective on DDT: http://www.pan-uk.or...news/Actives/ddt.htm

However, I suspect that that website in particular would be unlikely to be able to provide a balanced view of any pesticide/insecticide, as it has pretty clearly stated beliefs and objectives for a UK free of the use of pesticides, and seems to refer to the Pan-god, which has religious overtones.

There's quite a good and balanced overview of DDT (certainly better than in pan-uk.org) in Wikipedia, here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DDT.

As a keen environmentalist, I have, over the years, used DDT and read up a heck of a lot on the subject of this and other man-made toxins. My reading and the instructions on the DDT packets pointed out that DDT was safe to use, but only as long as it was used with care.

The book Silent Spring (1962) merely suggested that DDT and other pesticides may cause cancer and that their agricultural use was a threat to wildlife, particularly birds.
It offered no scientific proof - which is why the UK and USAID continued to use the stuff until 1984 and later, and until it became politically incorrect to continue to use it - i.e., not scientifically incorrect.
DDT was regarded as being as harmless (i.e., "mildly hazardous") to humans as the plant-based Derris Dust (rotenone), which latter is still sold by Yates today as an "organically permissible" pesticide - though some countries have banned it for "organic" status as a result of its modern "politically incorrect" status.

Whilst it might feel satisfying to talk humourously about using insects as a source of food flavouring or protein, we need to acknowledge that many countries do in fact already use insects for just such purposes. For example, in Thailand, where one of the delicacies in the rice-farming areas is an iridescent green-backed flying beetle that is a particular favourite amongst children and adults alike. The Thais catch them with lamps that attract the beetles at night, and the beatles fall off the lamps into a bucket of water below. My daughter Lily loves to eat them. Having eaten them myself - as well as other insects - I have to say that I don't find them particularly tasty and cannot see what all the fuss is about.

Now take a look at what Wikipedia says about malaria at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malaria
This is an extract:
"Each year, there are approximately 350–500 million cases of malaria, killing between one and three million people, the majority of whom are young children in sub-Saharan Africa."
After it had been discovered during the second half of World War II that DDT enabled real control of malaria and typhus amongst civilians and troops, DDT was used extensively and had almost eradicated malaria in some parts of the world. When it ceased to be used, the malaria came back, so millions of people - mostly children - had to die each year again.

Now try telling those children as they lie dying, and their families, that this massive scale of death is justified because some Westerners think that DDT is bad for them.
That may be only half the story of the use of DDT. The other half would be in its use as a highly effective crop pesticide.
It is thus easy to understand why the Swiss chemist Paul Hermann Müller was awarded the Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine in 1948:
"for his discovery of the high efficiency of DDT as a contact poison against several arthropods."

All this may not stop you from continuing to try to justify your pumping known toxic pesticides (fly spray chemicals) into your own household environments - toxins that merely kill an annoying pest (household flies). Of course, you would do this through freedom of choice.

We in the western civilisations are fortunate in that we will not have to watch our children die of malaria by the millions. You can be sure that if they did start to die of it, then we would rapidly deploy DDT or invent some even more effective malarial control. We are already using crop herbicides, crop pesticides and animal pesticides by the mega-tons, and genetically modified seed which is resistant to these chemicals, which is one reason why we can produce more than enough food for our needs.

The majority of people affected by malaria are those living in poverty and do not have a choice. Malaria effectively aggravates the state of poverty - which is the world's biggest killer and the greatest cause of ill-health and suffering across the globe. It is listed almost at the end of the WHO International Classification of Diseases. It is given the code Z59.5 - extreme poverty. DDT is one of the few things that has made any major dent in the statistics for global poverty and its associated human misery, and yet it has been pushed aside because it was made politically (not scientifically) incorrect by the book "The Silent Spring" (1962).

Just as a rough estimate, let's suppose that since (say) 1970, DDT ceased to be used (was banned for use) to control malaria, and that (say) at least 1.5million children died from malaria each year since then as a result. That's approx 40 years and 60 million dead children to date.
We could perhaps argue about precise numbers, but this estimate helps us to get the general idea of the scale of the thing.

So, this estimated 60 million children were apparently sentenced to die from what could have been an otherwise avoidable disease - malaria. The only reason those children were sentenced to die was because they suffered from another disease - Z59.5 (extreme poverty). Because they were children and had Z59.5, they had no franchise - no voice - in the arbitrary decision made by wealthy western nations to withhold the only known defence that could have saved them - DDT. We committed those 60 million children to death, and we currently commit somewhere between 1.5 and 3.0 million more children to death each year by the same means.

That 60 million is a staggering number of children to kill by default, made all the more worse a crime because it continues and may have been because DDT became politically unacceptable due to a fascist green whim regarding DDT and because someone wanted to write a best-selling book based on insubstantial scientific evidence.

If the Wikipedia and other balanced articles are anything to go by, then we should not forget that it is apparently acknowledged that not only was the case against DDT far from being categorically scientifically proven at the time the book was published, but also a substantive part of that case still remains to be proved. We have apparently become and continue to be mass murderers through our own passivity and ignorance and now including from our belief in the relatively new religion of greenie.

It is our beliefs that are become fatal to so many others, coupled with our avoidance - even hatred - of anything which might test or contradict that belief. This is a fascistic religion where the belief, dogma and religio-political ideology are more important than, and come at the cost of, the deaths of millions of innocent children.

If we:
  • (a) have withheld DDT from these innocents, thereby ensuring their deaths in the millions each year;
  • (b) have done this because we believed we were right to do so and that somehow this would save even more lives in our societies ("for the greater good");
  • (c) withheld DDT without offering any reasonable or effective substitute (QED);
  • (d) did this without knowing for certain whether we were right (QED);
- then arguably we could well deserve the charge of mass complicity in mass murder on a scale that beggars belief and that would make Hitler seem like a rank amateur.
We did this. We are the idiots.
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Living Room / Re: English as it is spoke.
« Last post by IainB on May 26, 2013, 08:14 PM »
^ Hahaha. Thanks. Well spotted. I hadn't realised I had repeated that. Always difficult to spot your own mistakes. Corrected now.

Is there a word in English that describes that as a figure of speech - I mean, describes a description of an error which itself contains an example of the selfsame error?
Is it simply "an illustration"?
If you do it unwittingly, is it simply "an unwitting illustration"?
If you do it deliberately in humour, is it simply "a humorous illustration"?

For example:
"There are only three kinds of people in this world: those who can count, and those who can't."
It has often puzzled me - what is that sentence exactly? Is it a figure of speech?
Yes, I know it might be a reflective joke on oneself, but is it something else besides?
Is there a word in English that describes it, for example, like "oxymoron", which is "...a figure of speech or expressed idea in which apparently contradictory terms appear in conjunction"?

(This appears to be on topic.)
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Living Room / Re: English as it is spoke.
« Last post by IainB on May 26, 2013, 06:58 AM »
No, I reckon they already had a copy of that, and had read it, hence the gobbledygook.
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I don't know if this is true, but it did amuse me.
US Presidents in Uniform.jpg
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@Edvard: http://windytan.blogspot.com/   Nice find!    :up:
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Living Room / Re: English as it is spoke.
« Last post by IainB on May 26, 2013, 01:02 AM »
Let's look at those two sentences:
"Coherent evaluation with sound evidence of whether the aim was achieved along with what worked well and why, and conversely, what didn't work so well and why How were the outcomes of initiative shared? i.e.; if you addressed an issue arising from PACT, how have you responded to the 'you said' by promoting 'we did'?"

Possible rewrite:
"Analyse and evaluate, describing whether and how the aim was achieved, and what specifically was effective or ineffective, and why.
How were the outcomes of the initiative shared? For example, if you addressed an issue arising from PACT, how did you respond to the 'you said' by promoting 'we did'?"

The original first sentence is very awkward and contains several redundant words. It seems to reflect a form of illiteracy that is quite common in the English-speaking world, where people have learned the language but have not been taught (or have not learned) how to communicate clearly in writing.
This form of illiteracy was particularly prevalent in the UK Civil Service, which was why Sir Ernest Gowers wrote The Complete Plain Words.

Goodness knows what the second sentence is about.
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Living Room / Re: English as it is spoke.
« Last post by IainB on May 25, 2013, 06:08 AM »
Shouldn't this go in the "Silly Humor" forum?
I'm not sure it qualifies for either.
I always thought a Living Room was a suitable place for 'humour', perhaps I was mistaken?
Perhaps I should stick to computing subjects? Or simply stop posting altogether and just read the threads?

Hahaha, very droll. Yes, it can be a real challenge sometimes can't it?    ;)
Here you go. This is what you probably need to consider doing:

Censorship - 03 eyes ears mouth.jpg

By the way, I liked the jokes. Thanks.
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Sorry, I can't help re the widgets, but there may well be someone else on the DC forum who could.
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...A few hundred Emails about this new law is good/bad legislation OTOH is (the) people trying to tell you something.
-Stoic Joker (May 23, 2013, 11:57 AM)
Yes, but the point would seem to be that their views  apparently are (or would be) irrelevant in an undemocratically appointed governmental structure.
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 How Humans Eat Their Food:

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2013-05-25: I sent a message to [email protected] to let them know Wiz had some fans at DC, and gave a link to this thread. I hope something useful will come of it.
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This is not a joke, but it made me larf: EU president and IT staff don't understand democracy maths truth.

Difficult to comprehend. Hard to believe.
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