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Living Room / Re: Building a Desktop
« Last post by 40hz on March 07, 2013, 11:02 PM »
It's hard to see how they can produce chipsets for motherboards if they don't actually make any motherboards.
-Carol Haynes (March 07, 2013, 07:32 PM)

Not really. The chipset drives the mobo's design rather than the other way around. You can make a mobo without engineering your own chipset, and most mobo makers don't produce their own. And chipset manufacturers generally haven't been in the habit of manufacturing motherboards either. Intel was always somewhat of an exception in that regard. But since they also made the CPU it was sorta moot anyway.

why would any manufacturer use an Intel chipset for their products
-Carol Haynes (March 07, 2013, 07:32 PM)

For the same reasons (i.e. price, performance, feature set) they would have to select a chipset from one of the other five companies (AMD, Broadcom, NVIDIA, SIS and VIA) that currently make them generally available for Intel x86 CPUs?

FWIW, Intel's chipsets are (last I heard) still the most commonly used - no matter who the mobo maker is.
 :)
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Living Room / Re: Microsoft and Windows 8 get two fingers from Stardock
« Last post by 40hz on March 07, 2013, 05:22 PM »
I wonder if Churchill knew and meant that?
-Carol Haynes (March 07, 2013, 03:19 AM)

That magnificent scoundrel? Count on it! ;D
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what's wrong if another walled garden comes into this

Because, with all due respect, it's not his friggin' garden to wall in. He's building his product in top of man years of development effort and coding - and millions of lines of source - he had nothing to do with, let alone pay a dime for.

That's what. :)
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Well...it would appear that Prenda Law and some of it's associates are about to discover what happens when a firm of attorneys abuses the legal process in a manner that amounts to fraud and coercion - and then runs into a judge who can see it for what it is.

For those who haven't followed this, Prenda Law is the firm that has been going after alleged "John Doe" torrent downloaders of pornographic materials by threatening to sue and make their names public unless they agree to out of court cash settlements in exchange for continued anonymity. The technical term for this sort of thing is blackmail.

TechDirt has been following these guys and their antics pretty much from day one. If you'd like to catch up, their posts on Prenda can be found here.

Ken over at Popehat also did a nice write-up on how Prenda and it's so-called client 'AF Holdings' has been trying to operate in an earlier post here that shows just how insane their "business model" is.

But it gets better...

In a post yesterday, Ken does a follow-up that walks you through the new legal challenges Prenda is facing now that it has come under the close examination of a judge that has concluded their activities amount to an attempt to commit fraud on his court. Something that does not bode well for those in the crosshairs since jail time is no longer out of the question.

If seeing someone who so richly deserves it "get theirs" makes your day, web on over to Popehat here and give Ken's article a read. It's lengthy - but worth it since he breaks down incredibly complex legal issues in a manner that makes me wonder why more legal reporting can't do the same for much simpler cases.

What Prenda Law Is Facing In Los Angeles, And How They Got There
Mar 6, 2013 By Ken.
   
In my post about Prenda Law's defamation lawsuits, I mentioned that Prenda is facing an inquiry by United States District Judge Otis Wright in Los Angeles.

A remarkable new order yesterday by Judge Wright moves me to describe that situation in greater detail based on my experience as a litigator and federal practitioner. The bullet: holy crap!

To sum up, yesterday Judge Wright ordered the principals of Prenda Law — and a man who accused them of stealing his identity — to appear in his court next Monday as part of Judge Wright's inquiry into whether anyone associated with Prenda Law should be sanctioned or otherwise punished for alleged fraud on the court. This is, to put it very mildly, unusual, and signifies grave danger for Prenda Law and its attorneys.

It wasn't always like this. Here's how Prenda Law got there.

And now, the long awaited comeuppance may be just around the corner thanks to a no-nonsense US federal district judge by the name of Otis Wright who has apparently had it with Prenda's antics and has taken an unusual degree of interest in what is normally a routine part of court proceedings: the discovery phase.

from the Popehat article (emphasis added):

Judge Wright is questioning an assertion that is at the core of Prenda Law's litigation strategy — that identifying the IP address of an infringing download is a sufficient basis to force disclosure of the corresponding subscriber. This represents a challenge to the legal theory underlying Prenda Law's approach to these cases. It's also significant because it shows that Judge Wright believes what Prenda Law's critics have been saying — that it might be using the threat of identification to "coerce" settlements, and that this danger should be a factor in evaluating whether Prenda Law should be able to uncover the identity of IP subscribers.

This level of judicial initiative in early discovery matters is quite unusual. For one thing, in federal court — at least in vast and busy districts like the Central District of California — most discovery issues are resolved by Magistrate Judges, who are appointed by the Article III district judges. Magistrate Judges do the less glamorous work of the federal justice system — non-substantive hearings, discovery disputes, and the like. But here, a district judge — black-robed, with a lifetime tenure, appointed by the President and confirmed by the Senate — is getting involved in very specific discovery issues. At this point, Prenda Law was no doubt becoming very concerned.

Good reading if you're into the whole legal quagmire the issue of copyright enforcement has become.

Highly recommended. :Thmbsup:





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Well...Mark Shuttleworth of Canonical has finally uttered the anticipated "drink the kool-aid" speech on his blog regarding Ubuntu's new direction. In it, he gets into where he's coming from - and where those who don't see it the same way as he does should feel free to go...

His words make for an interesting combination of hubris, begging the question, deflection, issue reframing, and historical revisionism. But I guess that's what makes so many of our modern visionaries "Modern Visionaries."

"So it goes." :-\

Some unwarranted melodrama

The sky is not falling in.

Really.

Ubuntu is a group of people who get together with common purpose. How we achieve that purpose is up to us, and everyone has a say in what they can and will contribute. Canonical’s contribution is massive. It’s simply nonsense to say that Canonical gets ‘what it wants’ more than anybody else. Hell, half the time *I* don’t get exactly what I want. It just doesn’t work that way: lots of people work hard to the best of their abilities, the result is Ubuntu.

The combination of Canonical and community is what makes that amazing. There are lots of pure community distro’s. And wow, they are full of politics, spite, frustration, venality and disappointment. Why? Because people are people, and work is hard, and collaboration is even harder. That’s nothing to do with Canonical, and everything to do with life. In fact, in most of the pure-community projects I’ve watched and participated in, the biggest meme is ‘if only we had someone that could do the heavy lifting’. Ubuntu has that in Canonical – and the combination of our joint efforts has become the most popular platform for Linux fans.

If you’ve done what you want for Ubuntu, then move on. That’s normal – there’s no need to poison the well behind you just because you want to try something else.

It’s also the case that we’ve shifted gear to leadership rather than integration.


When we started, we said we wanted to deliver the best of open source on a cadence. It was up to KDE, GNOME, XFCE to define what that was going to look like, we would just integrate and deliver (a hard problem in itself). By 2009 I was convinced that none of the existing free software communities could create an experience that could challenge the existing proprietary leaders, and so, if we were serious about the dream of a free software norm, we would have to lead.

The result is Unity, which is an experience that could become widely adopted across phones, tablets, PCs and other devices. Of course, that is a disruptive change, and has caused some members of existing communities to resent our work.
I respect that others may prefer different experiences, so we remain willing to do a large (but not unlimited) amount of work to enable KDE, GNOME, and other DEs to thrive inside the broader Ubuntu umbrella. We also take steps to accommodate developers who want to support both Unity and another DE. But if we want to get beyond being a platform for hobbyists, we need to accelerate the work on Unity to keep up with Android, Chrome, Windows and Apple. And that’s more important than taking care of the needs of those who don’t share our goal of a free software norm.

A once-in-a-lifetime opportunity

Everyone that I care about in open source has a shared dream: they want free software to become the norm, not the exception. And Ubuntu is the only way I can see for that to happen, which is why I spend all my time on it, and why so many other people spend huge amounts of time on it too.

I simply have zero interest in the crowd who wants to be different. Leet. ‘Linux is supposed to be hard so it’s exclusive’ is just the dumbest thing that a smart person could say. People being people, there are of course smart people who hold that view.

What I’m really interested in is this once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to create a free and open platform that is THE LEADER across both consumer and enterprise computing.

With Ubuntu (and Unity) we have that. It’s amazing. Think about it – unlike years gone by, a free software platform is actually winning awards for innovative leadership in the categories that count: mobile, cloud. Investing your time and energy here might have a truly profound impact on the world.
That’s worth digging into. Just roll your eyeballs at the 1337 crowd, roll up your sleeves, find something interesting to improve, and join in. To the extent that you can master a piece, you will get what you want. If you think the grand vision should follow your whims, you won’t.

If we work hard, and work together, Ubuntu will become a widespread platform for phones, tablets and PCs. You’ll have the satisfaction of designing, building and fixing tools that are used every day by millions of people. That’s meaningful. And it’s worth looking hard at our practices to ask the question: how best to achieve that goal?
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General Software Discussion / Re: forum password suggestion
« Last post by 40hz on March 07, 2013, 01:46 PM »
Magic questions should never be mandatory;
I hate to give such private informations to anyone.

No problem. Do what katykaty and I apparently do. Make up answers to them. 8)

This works BTW. Even if you don't have a good memory:

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Guess OSNews is being overly pissy and persnickety on this topic too:

One of the major lacking features in the newest Office: no Metro applications. In fact, the only reason Windows RT has a desktop at all is because the Office team was unable to create Metro applications in time for the release of Windows RT. I often thought this was a classic case of two important divisions within Microsoft not getting along and not being aligned, but now that I have my own Surface RT, I'm starting to realise that there's a far simpler, and thus more likely, explanation: Metro is simply not ready for anything serious - or for anything at all, really.
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Whenever the topic of the lack of Metro Office came up on OSNews, I always assumed that the reason we don't yet have Metro versions of Office was because of classic internal struggles between the Office and Windows divisions. It's no secret the two haven't always seen eye to eye, and let's face it, Microsoft has had its shares of new platforms and environments destined to become the future of Windows. None of them ever panned out, so it's natural that the Office division didn't exactly take Metro and WinRT seriously.

I changed my mind on that one a little bit, though. I bought a Surface RT recently, even though I knew full-well Metro applications would be - pardon my French - shit, I never expected it to be as bad as it is. Crashing, slowness, jittery animations, lagged typing - whether it's third party or Microsoft's own applications, it's pretty clear that Metro and WinRT can barely be classified as beta, at best.

Having come to that realisation, I am convinced that at least part of the reason for the lack of Metro Office stems from the sobering fact that WinRT simply isn't up to the task of forming the base of something as complex as Office. I mean, there's a progress bar (!) when copying/pasting in the only Metro Office application (the OneNote preview application).

After a few weeks with my Surface RT, I've come to the conclusion that WinRT is more like the first few Mac OS X releases: slow, unusable, and only suited for the strong-willed. That's why we have no Metro Office yet -


hmm...that does sound like the early Mac doesn't it?

but at least it's good know they're working on it, because that means WinRT is getting better as well.

...and that sounds like something an early Mac enthusiast would say too! :P ;D
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Living Room / Re: Recommendations for a Host OS?
« Last post by 40hz on March 07, 2013, 01:31 PM »
they do provide the most reliable and flexible working environment

I could probably get much the same results from a mix of FOSS elements, but life is too short, and there are other things for me to do with my time.

Well there you have it. The gods have spoken!

Guess that ends this particular discussion. ;D

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Living Room / Re: Here is an odd windows service problem
« Last post by 40hz on March 07, 2013, 12:24 PM »
Is there something in the system startup that's loading it? And is it in fact loaded as an actual service? Sounds more like it's an autostart program.
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Living Room / Re: Yahoo email servers hacked
« Last post by 40hz on March 07, 2013, 12:17 PM »
Just in the past few days, I've received multiple emails from my mother-in-law's Yahoo email account that are spam, and that I KNOW she is not manually sending to me. Just more anecdotal evidence...

I have three SB clients using Yahoo e-mail courtesy of AT&T farming it out (unbeknownst to them) for most DSL accounts. Two of them have recently received warning/block notices from the e-mail admins of some of their own customers because they are supposedly spamming their customer's e-mail servers.

Fun...

Especially when trying to talk to somebody at ATT/Yahoo about it. :-\

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Living Room / Re: DOTCOM saga - updates
« Last post by 40hz on March 07, 2013, 11:48 AM »
@IainB - sorry if I somehow offended. That was not my intent. All I was trying to say is that NZ's public opinion is (without any prejudice) not news in the USA. This country gets such a steady double-serving of contempt from so many quarters (sometimes with justification and sometimes without) that we're fairly numb to it all by now. Which (unfortunately) is something a few of the more hawkish elements in the US government seem to be happy to take advantage of.

Regarding the ban on naval vessels, as was presented to me, the question came up when a US destroyer requested docking privileges and was denied it after refusing to confirm or deny whether it was carrying (or supposedly had the capability of carrying) nuclear weapons. Since no military would ever openly acknowledge or confirm the location of such weapons, both for strategic and security reasons, such a refusal to answer is hardly unusual or unexpected.

What supposedly next happened was classic local politics and puppet theater. NZ dug its heels in and demanded an answer. The US refused. And then upped the ante by asserting its "one fleet" policy - to wit: what applies to one ship applies to all ships in the US naval fleet. Therefor, if one ship is not allowed in NZ's waters for the reasons given then, by extrapolation, no US naval vessel would be allowed in either.

After that it just got more and more ridiculous - with both side getting increasingly intransigent. Which was sad since it was obviously being driven at that point by local politics rather than military expediency - or even common sense.

And unless I missed something along the way (very possible) that is still where it stands today. NZ is a "nuclear free" zone, and the US and NZ have since tap danced around the issue with the 2010 Wellington Declaration (not treaty) which neatly sidestepped the issue by "putting it all behind us" with no real resolution of the incident that provoked the initial falling out.

I guess the acid test would be what would happen if a US nuclear vessel showed up tomorrow and requested entry access to Devonport. I'm guessing both sides know the answer - and would do everything in their power not to "go there." ;)

It's all rather silly.

But boys will be.

"So it goes."  ;D

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Living Room / Re: Building a Desktop
« Last post by 40hz on March 07, 2013, 11:10 AM »
If I hadn't just gone through this (and wasn't also a heavy duty gamer), then I'd probably agree with you.  But having done it, I can say that as he already has a pretty good MB and CPU, the biggest bang for his buck is going to be taking that $100 step.

 ;D Agree. It's always more cost effective to bump your GPU budget from $200 to $350 than it is to buy a $200 card only to scrap it a year later and then drop an additional $350 on the card you wished you originally bought.

So yes...after getting the best CPU you can justify, and after matching it to an appropriate mobo...and after installing 8Gb of RAM...I'd definitely put the money into a better GPU if I were a gamer.

Additional RAM over 8Gb could easily be added later should it ever be needed. (And for normal gaming use, it definitely wouldn't.)
 :)
 
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Living Room / Re: Recommendations for a Host OS?
« Last post by 40hz on March 07, 2013, 10:46 AM »
VMWare carries a product called ESXi, which sounds (very) similar to ProxMox. If memory serves me right there was a free version of that software. Don't know if there are limitations to be able to use it.

Don't know much about ESXi (other than what I've read.), but it provides the same functionalities as Proxmox for all intents and purposes. It's yet another bare metal hypervisor solution.

The Linux Action Show did a segment on it a while back (link here) and there are videos up on YouTube where the Hack5 folks were doing things with an older version if you want to see it in action. The Proxmox site also has some videos.

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Note: If anybody needs to get up to speed on virtualization or what a type-1 hypervisor is, there are some really good plain-talk presentations by somebody who goes by the name of "Eli the Computer Guy" on YouTube that I often point my more technically curious clients to. His intro to virtualization is here. His intro to Type-1 hypervisors is here. If you're new to this, I think they're worth watching.

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Addendum:

You can also install on top of X Windows, Debian, and, if memory serves, Windows Server 08r2.

Oooo...missed that. And yes, supposedly it can be loaded as a guest in a VM environment provided your VM allows for nesting...

Testing Proxmox VE as a VM

Proxmox VE can be installed as a guest on all common used desktop virtualization solutions. But note, KVM will not work in almost all cases - only if your software allows nested virtualization (experimental feature).

OpenVZ containers works well.

Note that it's an experimental feature.

Sorry...not for me. Life's too short to get involved in that sort of a science-faire project if you're not a full-time student. ;D

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Living Room / Re: Recommendations for a Host OS?
« Last post by 40hz on March 07, 2013, 10:29 AM »
I haven't had any problems. However, I'm not much of a gamer, nor do I do much with bleeding edge video cards, so I'm in not at all qualified to say when it comes to that.

Are you running on the metal? Or installed on an existing OS?

I just tried installing ProxMox in a VM so I could test it first. I can't seem to figure out how to configure it without having to connect to it via web browser from another PC. That's lame. I want to use the machine I put it on. Not access it from another PC.

Hardly lame. It's a Type-1 hypervisor. It's designed to be run on bare metal. And connecting via a remote console is also how you do connect to most (if not all) Type-1 hypervisors. They're intended for use in a 'headless' configuration. ;) 8)
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Living Room / Re: Recommendations for a Host OS?
« Last post by 40hz on March 06, 2013, 09:52 PM »
Does this cause any problems with hardware drivers like VMs often do? More specifically, will this interfere with my GPU drivers and/or cause my games to run poorly?


I haven't had any problems. However, I'm not much of a gamer, nor do I do much with bleeding edge video cards, so I'm in not at all qualified to say when it comes to that.

What was suggested to me when I found out about Proxmox was to get a spare drive and install that in the machine I wanted to test Proxmox on. Then disconnect the main drive, install Proxmox on the new drive and go to town. If it didn't work out I could then just reconnect the original drive and be back to where I was with no undue hassles. Since Proxmox can be downloaded and used without having to pay anything, it makes sense to just load it up and play with it to see if you like it.

Like with everything else in the tech world: YMMV.

Sorry. Wish I had a better answer for you. :)

Are there any other Proxmox users here that would know the answer to that?
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Living Room / Re: Recommendations for a Host OS?
« Last post by 40hz on March 06, 2013, 06:54 PM »
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Living Room / Re: Building a Desktop
« Last post by 40hz on March 06, 2013, 05:28 PM »
I'd still look at wired, and power over ethernet.  Both of those have served me a lot better than wireless.

+1 on both points. My mantra has always been: wired if you can, wireless if you must. Especially if it's a non-mobie workstation. And especially now that ethernet over power wiring (or 'powerline networking') is both workable and affordable.

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@wraith - PoE? I think you meant EoP this time didn't you? :P

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@Miz - re: Graphics cards - I sometimes think it's a waste to worry too much about future-proofing your GPU since the technology evolves so rapidly that no matter what you buy today, you'll wish you had the money to get something else a year from now.

So since the GPU is one of the easiest things to swap out, I'm more inclined to re-alocate any money I find for a new build to the things that can't be most easily changed, such as the CPU or mobo. After that I go for what gives me the most bang-for-the-buck overall performance-wise; or, that adds additional capabilities - like more easily supporting multiple VMs. That (to me) means maxing out the RAM first, and then going for a better GPU.

But I'm also not a heavy duty gamer. I like games, but I don't need this week's bleeding-edge masterpiece to have fun. And most of what I do enjoy isn't the latest or the greatest by a long shot. So your priorities and expectations may be different than mine. And rightly so if they are...
 :)

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if you have had 15 years out of the price of your software why would you settle for an annual subscription?
-Carol Haynes (March 06, 2013, 04:11 PM)

Furthermore, if it's already paid for, working for you - and you're used to it - why would you want to upgrade at all?

That's the elephant in the room when it comes to office and' "business productivity" software.

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Living Room / Re: Building a Desktop
« Last post by 40hz on March 06, 2013, 02:45 PM »
maybe go for a less expensive wifi adapter and upgrade the intended i5 CPU to an i7? Are you gonna max the memory out at 32 GB?

That would be awesome. An i7 with all that RAM? Talk about a virtual machine playground par excellence.

With sufficient RAM and an i7, why settle on having just one PC when you could run several at a time - all on the same hardware. ;D
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Living Room / Re: Building a Desktop
« Last post by 40hz on March 06, 2013, 02:15 PM »
^Yeah agree - assuming your ISP allows for 1G connections on your WAN side. Most still max at 100M. And even then, until we're allowed an MTU setting above 1500 (which seems to be what they've decided internet connections are going to be kept to since 1500 bytes is also the largest packet allowed at the network layer) it's sort of moot anyway.

They really need to do a systematic overhaul of ethernet.
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Living Room / Re: Microsoft and Windows 8 get two fingers from Stardock
« Last post by 40hz on March 06, 2013, 02:05 PM »
I think "Metro-Fixed" might be a better name for it. ;D :Thmbsup:

I am so gonna buy a copy once it's out of beta. 8)
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General Software Discussion / Re: upgrade to SSD
« Last post by 40hz on March 06, 2013, 01:37 PM »
^Alternatively, if you're not too loaded up - or are due for some major housecleaning - you could also just go with a clean OS plus apps install on the SSD and then use Microsoft's easy transfer utility to move your settings and data over.

Sometimes that's the best strategy when you can't or don't want to clone a partition - but you also have a lot on the drive - so you don't want to start over completely from scratch.

It's a good way to avoid bringing registry gremlins and other 'squirrels' over from the old drive too! :Thmbsup:
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Living Room / Re: Building a Desktop
« Last post by 40hz on March 06, 2013, 01:33 PM »
Seems to hit the sweet spot in several places price/performance wise. Nice BOM. You obviously did your research.

Should be a very nice machine when you're finished.

+1 w/Carol on the wireless. Seems too good to be true - but wouldn't it be nice if I were wrong? ;D If you do go with one of those please be sure to keep us posted - because most of us here would grab one in a heartbeat if it even half lived up to the writing on the tin.

Luck! :Thmbsup:
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Living Room / Re: DOTCOM saga - updates
« Last post by 40hz on March 06, 2013, 09:18 AM »

What are you talking about?

... they just want to avoid the fate of other countries that have defied the US masters

What are you talking about? US masters??? That's a freekin' golf tournament! :P :

But more seriously, exactly who is the master here? And who is dancing to who's tune? :huh:

Because when it comes to ownership of IP - the biggies aren't necessarily US companies... :o

From the folks at TechDirt comes this bit of curious info:

So Much For Protecting US Interests - Most Big 'IP Intensive' Firms Are Foreign-Owned
from the well,-look-at-that dept


These days, it's become quite common to talk about the importance of spreading copyright maximalism around the globe based on the US's interests. After all, the US seems to be the leading country in pushing for such maximalism, and people often talk about the big copyright players and their lobbyists, as being US-centric. After all, there's Hollywood for movies, NY for publishing and NY/LA/Nashville for music. And, so much activity seems to be driven by their lobbyists -- mostly the RIAA and MPAA. However, a new study is pointing out, for all this talk of the "American entertainment industry" driving the discussion on copyright laws, that a very, very large number of these companies are actually foreign, and much of the industry is really foreign (pdf). There's a nice infographic to go along with the report as well:

many have challenged whether or not those industries are truly "dependent" on intellectual property laws, but few have explored whether or not those industries are really "American." Turns out... they're not. And, as such, if we're making policy based on just propping up the few legacy companies who run those industries, we're often funneling US money to foreign countries, rather than investing it in the US. Among the findings (many of which are in the graphic above):

    
  •    Four of the "Big Six" publishers (who represent a huge percentage of English-language book publications) are foreign-owned. More than 80% of the revenue made by the Big Six goes to foreign-owned companies.
  •    Only 7 of the world's top 50 publishers are US-owned.
  •    The book publishing business in Europe employs twice as many people as the US
  •    Two of the three major record labels are foreign-owned. Those two labels represent nearly 60% of the market.
  •    13 out of the 20 best-selling artists are not American.
  •    Half of the 50 most popular movies in the US in 2012 were filmed partly or entirely outside the US.
  •    Over the last two years, half of all Oscar winners were foreign.
  •    The video game market is dominated by Japanese firms, with 70% of the market for the most recent generation coming from Japan

The report finds that this carries over to the patent side as well.

    
  • Foreign companies obtained 7,000 more US patents than US companies in 2011 (likely a bigger gap in 2012)
  •    Seven of the top 10 companies getting US patents were foreign in both 2011 and 2012.
  •    Nearly 60% of pharmaceutical revenue is generated by foreign-owned companies.
  •    The majority of employees in the pharma industry (including for US-owned firms) work outside the US.

Basically, the more you look, the more you realize that even with all this talk of how we need these laws to protect US interests, a significant amount of any benefits may actually be flowing right out of the country.

Read the whole thing here.

Looks like there's a good chance that the old strategy of playing up to the romantic cowboy fantasies and egos of American politicians (in order to double-shuffle the USA into acting as global policeman and relief aid provider) is now being employed by non-US businesses with vested interests in extending the scope of IP law globally.

And if the US takes the blame for all of it...well... that's just more sugar icing for the cake! :Thmbsup:

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When is this country ever going to wake up? :-\
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Living Room / Re: DOTCOM saga - updates
« Last post by 40hz on March 06, 2013, 08:06 AM »
Given that background, if the Yanks were seen to be pulling a similarly perfidious "Prieur and Mafart-type" manoeuvre to force NZ to overturn their normal and proper judicial/legal process, then in NZ they will probably be held in the same low regard as France, and it will leave a similarly very bitter taste in the mouths of the loyal NZ public, who cherish their freedom and their independence, and who tend to have long memories and use their vote wisely.

I certainly hope so. Because despite being the setting for Jackson's Middlearth, NZ does not loom very large in the psyche of most Americans. AFAIK NZ is not an official (as in 'by treaty') ally of the US or Nato. And there is still rancor in certain circles over that ban on US Navy vessels in NZ ports which has gone on for the last thirty or so years. So if the citizens of NZ were to develop a sudden contempt for Americans, it likely wouldn't register as even the tiniest of blips on the radar screen of general public awareness here in the USA. Not that that should matter to anybody in NZ. Or stop its people from doing what is right.
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