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Living Room / Re: How long do hard drives actually live for?
« Last post by IainB on November 27, 2013, 08:12 PM »
^^ Thanks. I got the impression that it could/would be an extremely time-consuming process, since, in bad drive sectors, Spinrite apparently goes down to the level of individual bits of data on the disk, and then resorts to an almost analogue-type approach where the bit has an indistinct magnetic polarity.
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Living Room / Re: Peer Review and the Scientific Process
« Last post by IainB on November 27, 2013, 05:03 PM »
Most scientific research is bunk? Apparently so...
Ahem... People were extolling the virtues of "peer review"? Hahahahaaha~! ;D 8)
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Was just reviewing the posts in this thread, and re-read the links you gave there. They are not opinion pieces, seem to be quite factual, and one is an abstract from a research paper.

Some useful conclusions:
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Living Room / Re: How long do hard drives actually live for?
« Last post by IainB on November 26, 2013, 07:08 PM »
I was looking for a review of Spinrite on the DC Forum - an actual "use case" - but couldn't find one.
Sure, some positive comments from some people, and mostly negative comments from @f0dder, but not exactly good "reviewer" reports.
You can't establish by hearsay, opinion poll or argument whether a software tool performs its allotted task properly. You need some hard facts first - so, in the absence of a review, I usually do a "suck-it-and-see".

I searched various forums on the Internet to see who had tried Spinrite out and what problems they had, and decided I should give it a whirl. So I bought a copy.
My notes from this trial:
2013-11-22 1039hrs: After a great deal of trouble, finally created a Spinrite CD:
Could only do it on an imation DVD-R 16X4.7GB 2hr DVD.
Had to format it first.
Then used Easy Burner (Free) to write the Spinrite .iso file to the DVD.

When I booted and ran the Spinrite disc at boot, the first time, nothing happened, then the second time it worked (started to load the DOS), but stopped quickly with this error (this was consistently repeatable):

-InitDisk
Invalid Opcode at FFFE 059D 3006 00E2 96D5 0008 0000 96D5 0000 6244 0B63 6218 96D5

Did a search for: "spinrite -InitDiskInvalid Opcode" and came up with lots of stuff  - e.g., "How to Fix Invalid Opcode Error in SpinRite".
Several people had found that:
...go into the BIOS, to the SATA mode setting, and change it from IDE to AHCI.  When I did this and then booted SpinRite again, I noticed that a bunch of the drive fields (hardware addrs, hardware irq, etc) were now listed as "unknown", but SpinRite was able to scan the disk now.
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Essentially, the various comments on this indicated that, if you could get at the drive's BIOS settings and tweak them experimentally, then the Invalid Opcode would not occur, and Spinrite would be able to scan the disk.
However, in my case, though the user is able get into the BIOS (no problem), there is no facility to access/tweak the BIOS settings for the hard drive, so I never got to find out for myself whether Spinrite could do its stuff as documented.
So I shall ask for my money back - not because the product is "no good" (I don't know that), but because it couldn't run on the drive I had specifically wanted to use it on.

That is why I asked:
@SeraphimLabs: Have you ever tried restoring/recovering hard drives or SSDs using Spinrite?
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I am genuinely interested to know. What the Spinrite author says when describing what his software does actually makes a lot of sense to me - at least, I think I understood what he was talking about - and though hard drive manufacturers have definitely upped their game by building in "self-healing" functionality (auto-copy of data from bad sectors to spare sectors), Spinrite apparently not only uses that technology but also does something that the hard drive manufacturers do not.
As I understand it, Spinrite tries to force the disk surface in the bad sectors to get back to full magnetic strength by persistently reading and writing and may even do a reverse polarity write to the drive's surface. It also persists in reading bad sector data by having the read head come in from multiple different directions to perform the read, until it gets a parity check (a good read).
Whether that forcing makes for a permanently reusable disk surface in that formerly "bad" sector is unknown, but it would presumably have to help.
Of course, if it is the drive armatures/mechanisms that are failing, then, as @f0dder seems to suggest, all that extra reading/writing could "overstress" the drive and make it fail real quick, so taking an image of the drive could be good risk-avoidance.
In my case, because of the SMART errors reported by HDS, I knew it was bad sectors, and the drive's performance was still 100%.
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Living Room / Re: How long do hard drives actually live for?
« Last post by IainB on November 26, 2013, 05:08 PM »
@SeraphimLabs: Have you ever tried restoring/recovering hard drives or SSDs using Spinrite?
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Could you maybe suggest some areas where I could poke around to check up on the output?
The best check is, of course, a fully functioning system.  If it appears to be working OK and your installed programs, (especially things like AV and virtual devices, if you have any), work OK then I'd say it's working fine.
Yes, it seems to have been an easy, painless process. The cloned system behaves just like it was the old one. No hiccups. I had been expecting much worse.
Things like MS Security Essentials and a virtual CD-ROM drive are operating just fine. So is everything else - so far!
That AOMEI software is quite impressive.
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General Software Discussion / Re: how to download the text of webpages?
« Last post by IainB on November 25, 2013, 06:06 PM »
You could use the Mozilla Archive Format extension to save individual pages, or several/all tabs, in either MAFF or MHTML format.
Depending on the constraints, using search/index tools on these files may be problematic as:
  • The MAFF format files are based on the .ZIP format.
  • The MHTML format files are based on the MIME format.

MAFF - 01 MAF Options.png

When opened, the output of these files is not always likely to be as "exact" a copy as (say) the Scrapbooked pages, and may also differ from browser to browser.
By the way, note that the Scrapbook extension currently only works in Firefox.
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2013-11-26 1232hrs Updated the opening post (review) to clarify some of the content, in light of questions asked.
Sorry if it was a bit garbled, but I was pretty dog-tired when I wrote it, so probably prone to making mistakes at that time.
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@4wd: I had never needed to use a cloning tool before, and did not know what to expect, though I did wonder what it was going to do with locked files.
It just started the clone from when I launched the program, no rebooting or anything. At the end of the exercise, it said it was "copying the system files" (OWTTE) and I assumed that included any locked files or system files that might have been used/changed during the cloning process.
Like I said:
...I downloaded and installed the smaller file, then executed AOMEI Backupper. Click-click-click with the mouse - and in less than 20 seconds I had started cloning my failing Seagate drive to the new WD drive.
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I was impressed, and subsequent testing of the clone (which I am using as my primary now) indicates nothing amiss so far.

Could you maybe suggest some areas where I could poke around to check up on the output? I'm not really sure where to look or what to look for otherwise. I did notice that the Windows Update History is blank, but I think that is because I deleted that prior to cloning to reduce space used on the drive (and to reduce backup/cloning time).
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@tomos:
Yes, everything seemed to work perfectly. Very nice when that happens!

I was using a USB3.0 device, but via a USB2 connection. It would probably been a lot quicker with a USB3 connection.
As it was, the clone took about 8hrs, and the allocation of the unallocated space to the cloned C: drive took 1 to 2 hrs. (not sure, as I didn't time it).

Sorry, the download files are referred to, but rather buried in the Intro and Overview:
On the download page, it says:
The software has two installation files:
One size: 60MB, supports both Windows 7/8/Vista/XP and Windows Server 2003/2008/2012, you can download according to your OS. (link to CNET download)
The other size: 20MB, it only supports Windows 7/8 and Server 2008 R2/2012. (link to a "loal" download)
I downloaded and installed the smaller file, then executed AOMEI Backupper. Click-click-click with the mouse - and in less than 20 seconds I had started cloning my failing Seagate drive to the new WD drive.

I only needed the smaller file as that was relevant to my OS.
I found the website a bit confusing on this and some other subject, but I put that down to the website's use of English rather than anything else.
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General Software Discussion / Re: how to download the text of webpages?
« Last post by IainB on November 25, 2013, 03:06 PM »
Consider Scrapbook: I'm not sure if it is exactly what you want, but the Firefox Scrapbook extension is quite good at scraping individual web pages and those web-pages nested underneath a page. You can tell it how "deep" to go in the nested site, and what files to pick up/ignore as it goes. It tidies all the links up when done, so you have a relatively self-contained copy of the downloaded pages.
I have highlighted in the screenshot below - using red boxes/arrow - the relevant bits of the download option (which pops up on a drag/drop save to a Scrapbook folder):

Scrapbook - 01 Download options.png

Scrapbook is useful where you want to be able to search/retrieve the content easily. Not only can you use Scrapbook to index/search all that it downloads, but also, since it saves the content in a non-proprietary format as html, you can index/search it with the standard Windows Desktop Search and - in my case - xplorer² (a Windows Explorer replacement tool). Any files it creates or downloads also immediately show up in the file/folder search tool Everything.
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Living Room / Re: How long do hard drives actually live for?
« Last post by IainB on November 25, 2013, 04:54 AM »
... Like I said earlier - if you find yourself worrying about a drive, it's probably a good time to think about a replacement. Those subconscious trouble signals you pick up are often worth paying attention to once you have some experience under your belt.
Not terribly scientific I'm afraid. But it's an approach that's worked well for me. YMMV. ;D
Well, there is worry based on ignorance and worry based on evidence. I'd go for the latter every time, which is when I find HD Sentinel so useful.
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2013-11-25 2351hrs: Updated to include AOMEI Partition Assistant FREE details.
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I think it's all evil and should be done away with.  And don't water down the regulations with something flimsy like the warning labels they put on tobacco products.  I'm tired of reading all the news stories about people getting horribly sick from exposure to second-hand cookies.
+1 for that.   ;)

The ABC's Catalyst program just recently aired a two part series called Heart of the Matter which was based on the subject of the decades long war against cholesterol.
You can download it from: Catalyst Video Downloads (not geo-locked)
Thanks for the link!   :Thmbsup:

Are they going to come arrest me for posession of contraband because I've made cookies according to Grandma's favorite recipe that has not been approved by the FDA and may contain traces of soap and whatever other contaminants are on the dishes I used to mix it?
Why not put it to the test? You will probably find that they can do all that - and a whole lot more - for you. That's what the "Total" in "Totalitarian" means.
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Living Room / Re: silly humor - post 'em here! [warning some NSFW and adult content]
« Last post by IainB on November 24, 2013, 02:49 PM »
Email sent out by Greenpeace 2013-11-25:
Subject: I hope you can help me [Name]

Dear Greenpeace member,

I've never written to you before, but I really hope you can help me today.

My dear husband Colin Russell is one of the Arctic Sunrise crew members arrested at gunpoint for protesting Arctic oil drilling. Just this week his bail application was denied in a Russian court - even though every other crew member had their bail applications approved and all but one other have been released.

This could mean at least three more months alone in a prison cell during the icy winter in St Petersburg. This is difficult for me to take in. Col stays positive and strong in difficult circumstances. But with this latest news, I just know he's being tested beyond his limits.

Greenpeace has launched a global petition demanding freedom for Col and all his Arctic Sunrise crewmates. Can you please help by adding your name today?

Col was so happy when we spoke on the phone over two months ago. I remember how upbeat he was, just so happy to be back on a ship he's grown to love during 14 years of working as a radio operator for Greenpeace. We made plans to visit friends and family in Melbourne, maybe spend a week together on the coast over Christmas. But now, who knows when I'll see him next?

I've hardly been able to speak to Col much since he went to prison. We had a short phone call, but that was over a month ago. Now it's been 67 days of worry and anxiety for me and our 24-year-old daughter Maddie. All of this because Colin and 29 others were brave enough to tell oil companies like Shell and Gazprom to stop the Arctic.     <--------

The Australian foreign minister Julie Bishop spoke to Russian authorities about Col several weeks ago. But there's more that she and our government can do to rescue these heroes and bring them home. Tony Abbott, Australia's prime minister, must call President Putin to ensure Colin is also granted bail.

It would really mean the world to Maddie and I to have your name on this petition. Please click here to join us.

I can't write down in words how frustrating it is not being able to speak to him right now. I just want to tell him that Maddie and I - together with millions of Greenpeace supporters in every corner of the world - are thinking of him today.

That old saying, that alone we are only one voice and together we are powerful, has a whole new meaning for me now.

Thank you for helping us out. It means so much to us having you on our side.

Chrissie Russell, on behalf of Greenpeace.

PS It's been over two months since the Russian coast guard illegally boarded the Arctic Sunrise ship and arrested my husband and 29 others at gunpoint -- all for peacefully protesting against the terrible threat of an Arctic oil spill. Please make sure your name is on this petition today. Thank you.
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Living Room / Re: silly humor - post 'em here! [warning some NSFW and adult content]
« Last post by IainB on November 24, 2013, 02:45 PM »
^^ Smart girl?
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Living Room / Re: Flash Game of the Week: Kingdom Rush Frontiers
« Last post by IainB on November 24, 2013, 12:02 AM »
Thanks for the link.
I've been learning a lot about these online games lately, and have even downloaded several (as self-contained .swf files).
It's all because of my 3½ y/o son, Brian. He loves these games after Lily introduced him to some. He found Kingdom Rush whilst playing games online a couple of weeks ago. It's now on his favourites list (Tag=games), along with 20+ others, including (from memory) things like Earn to Die 2012 (Zombies), Need More Brains (Zombies), Last Action Heroes 1 & 2, Pappa Louie 2, Cactus McCoy, sundry MonkeyGoHappy versions, Grow Valley, various food preparation and baby-care games, etc..

As he is still developing his skills, he doesn't always have the problem-solving skills or 2-handed co-ordination necessary for some of these games, so I have to initially show him how to solve the problems and play one hand whilst he plays the other. As he learns to get the hang of it all, he seems to needs my help less and less.

He became all excited when I told him just now that there's a new version of Kingdom Rush (Frontiers) and wants to play it "Right now!"    ;D
He'll have to wait till his sister has finished drafting 3 apartment designs (using Sweet Home 3D online) on her laptop - it's for her school homework. Brian was sat next to her "helping". He keeps telling us that he badly wants to "play" it, and SIMS3 too...
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@4wd: Thanks for spotting that. Yes, I had cut-and-pasted the wrong details in. Corrected it now.
The new drive is: Western Digital Scorpio Black 750GB 16MB 7200rpm 2.5Inch SATA3 Hard Drive Model: WD7500BPKX.
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Originally posted:2013-11-23
Last updated2016-05-03

Basic Info
App Name
(2 apps used consecutively)
AOMEI Backupper FREE (used to clone a drive)
AOMEI Partition Assistant FREE (used to resize a partition)
Thumbs-Up Rating :Thmbsup: :Thmbsup: :Thmbsup: :Thmbsup: :Thmbsup: - that's just for the cloning and partition management; backup was not trialled/tested.
App URLhttp://www.backup-ut...ty.com/download.html
On that page AOMEI Backupper has two alternative installation files:
One size: 60MB, supports both Windows 7/8/Vista/XP and Windows Server 2003/2008/2012 (link to CNET download)
The other size: 20MB, it only supports Windows 7/8 and Server 2008 R2/2012. (link to a "local" download)
App Version ReviewedAOMEI Backupper v1.6
AOMEI Partition Assistant SE v5.2
Note that much newer versions are now available, but these were the ones trialled at the time.
Test System SpecsMS Win7-64 Home Premium
Supported OSesPC Windows (various)
Support MethodsSupport website: http://www.backup-ut...ity.com/support.html
Upgrade PolicyFree upgrades.
Trial Version Available?Not applicable - this is FREEware.
Pricing SchemeAOMEI Backupper + AOMEI Partition Assistant are FREEware.
See also: AOMEI Partition Assistant Professional Edition 5.5 free

Intro and Overview:
For a while now, my trusty HDS PRO - refer Hard Disk Sentinel PRO - Mini-Review - has been telling me about the failing health of my laptop's hard drive - a Seagate 2.5 inch 500GB SATA 7200RPM 16MB Cache Hard Drive Model: ST9500420AS.
The drive's performance status was 100%, but the calculated statistical relevance of several non-fatal error events meant that its health status - that had initially dropped from 100% to 69% and then been stable at that point for months - had started frequently edging downwards in progressive small increments to 55%.
The HDS report Overview at this point stated:
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There are 21 bad sectors on the disk surface. The contents of these sectors were moved to the spare area.
Based on the number of remapping operations, the health of the disk was decreased in different steps.
There are 1 weak sectors found on the disk surface. They may be remapped anytime in the later use of the disk.
7408 errors occured during data transfer. This may indicate problem of the device or with data/power cables. It is recommended to examine and replace the cables if possible.
At this point, warranty replacement of the disk is not yet possible, only if the health drops further.
it is recommended to examine the log of the disk regularly. All new problems found will be logged there.
It is recommended to continuously monitor the hard disk status.
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So yesterday (a Friday) I took the bull by the horns, figuring that I had better do something about it before it failed completely (though it was fully backed up), otherwise I'd probably have to commit a mountain of time to the recovery.

So I went online and ordered a hard drive I had been keeping my eyes on - a Western Digital Scorpio Black 750GB 16MB 7200rpm 2.5Inch SATA3 Hard Drive Model: WD7500BPKX. (The failing Seagate drive was a discontinued model.)
The supplier is in the same city as myself, so after some thought I sent them a follow-up email asking if they could send it by URGENT courier same day, rather than the normal 2 business days courier delivery.
I got a call from them telling me that it would cost NZ$30 to do that, so I agreed and paid via credit card. I figured it was worth it as it would give me a weekend to sort out any wrinkles. The package duly arrived about 2 hours later that afternoon.

I put the new drive in a USB3 portable hard drive carrier that I bought a while back (it's proved to be a very useful purchase). Then I ran a few tests/inspections on it using HDS - including its 3-built-in tests:
  • Short Self-test.
  • Extended Self-test.
  • Conveyance Self-test.

The latter 2 tests would have run for hours, but I stopped them after about 30mins. with no evidence of any problems. I took screenshots as I went. The old (failing) hard drive had failed its built-in Short and Extended Self-tests within a few minutes.
I then formatted the drive and repeated the inspections/tests. I took screenshots as I went, but there was no difference before/after the formatting. HDS said the new drive was in 100% performance status and 100% health status and all the SMART flags were good.
So I figured it was safe to go ahead and use the disk - it was AOK.

The next thing was - What to do? I had started to use the Win7 system image tool that gives you a once-only chance to write the image to 6 or so CD-ROMs, but it was so incredibly constipated, and I was running out of CD-ROMS (which I rarely use for anything), so I stopped it before writing to the first CD. It said it could resume from there. This was archaic.
So I did what I usually do - gathered some more information. I chanced across a new report that I had been given automatic access to in my Gdrive (Comparison- AwardSpace vs Freehostia- Best Free Hosting). It was from BearWare, so I went to the website and right there I saw the recommendation for AOMEI Backupper. Now BearWare doesn't usually recommend anything unless it meets certain high standards, and his post of the thing mentioned images and clones, so I took a look at the AOMEI Backupper website.

AOMEI Technologies is based in China - as it says here - AOMEI Company:
CHENGDU AOMEI® Tech Co., Ltd.
Address: 3F, SOHO Business Port, No.5 HongJiXin Rd, Chengdu, China
Postcode: 610000
- so that probably explains the awkward use of English. It took me a while to understand that the Cloning function is part of AOMEI Backupper.
On the download page, it distinguished between two alternative installation files for AOMEI Backupper:
  • One size: 60MB, supports both Windows 7/8/Vista/XP and Windows Server 2003/2008/2012 (link to CNET download)
  • The other size: 20MB, it only supports Windows 7/8 and Server 2008 R2/2012. (link to a "local" download)

I downloaded and installed the smaller file, then executed AOMEI Backupper. Click-click-click with the mouse - and in less than 20 seconds I had started cloning my failing Seagate drive to the new WD drive.
It was by then Saturday 2AM. I sat with it for a couple of hours, interested in seeing its progress reports, and making sure that the laptop would not go to sleep and set the screen to switch off after 2 minutes of no keyboard activity (so as to keep the temps down inside the laptop). I estimated that at the rate it was going it would take about 8 hours to complete, and so I went to bed. I was awoken at about 8AM by the HDS alarm gong telling me that the health of the Seagate drive had deteriorated another 1% to 54%, and I noticed that AOMEI Backupper was still busy making the clone with apparently no problem. By 10:05AM, AOMEI Backupper had completed the cloning process and shut the laptop down (as I had set it to do in the options).
So I swapped the old/new drives around. started up the laptop and ran the HP BIOS and system checks. Everything was perfect.
So I let it continue and boot into Windows. No problem.

After running some more tests and fossicking about and making notes, I started up AOMEI Backupper and took screenshots as I went (see following).

Examples - screenshots/clips:
Main GUI window: (going to each menu item)

AOMEI Backupper - 01.png

AOMEI Backupper - 02.png

AOMEI Backupper - 03.png

AOMEI Backupper - 04.png

AOMEI Backupper - 05.png



This is the picture of the cloning result - the cloned drive and the original (failing) drive:

AOMEI Backupper - 06 Clone result.png


This is a screenshot of AOMEI Partition Assistant FREE - after adding the unallocated storage to the C: partition and relabelling the partition:

AOMEI Partition Assistant - 01 Resize partition.png

Who this software is designed for:
Pretty much any PC user who wants a bombproof backup utility. From the website, the software provides:
  • One click backup your system drive to ensure system security
  • Backup disk & partition, create disk images and clone hard drive
  • Support Windows 8/7/Vista/XP and Server 2003/2008/2012 (32/64-bit)

Features include:
  • Backup Features
  • Restore Features
  • Clone Features
  • System Backup: One-click back up all data of system drive, including system files and installed applications, without interrupting work.
  • Disk Backup: Backup your hard disk drives, including MBR disk, GPT disk, external hard drive, USB disk and other storage devices that can be recognized by Windows.
  • Partition Backup: If you just want to backup a partition or dynamic volume, not the entire disk, the feature will be your best choice. With it, you can backup one or multiple partitions/dynamic volumes (including dynamic system volumes).
  • Schedule Backup: Set up a schedule to automatically backup your system and data, especially for users who want to create backups at a lesser frequency or have multiple backup schedules (e.g. daily, weekly, monthly).

The Good:
My trial has made real, live use of 2 software applications:
  • AOMEI Backupper - to produce a fully-functional clone from a failing 500GB hard drive on a new 750GB hard drive.
  • AOMEI Partition Assistant - to add unallocated space on the new (larger) hard drive to the cloned C: drive.
Both applications:
  • ran perfectly.
  • were incredibly simple and easy to use.
  • operated efficiently.
  • would be relatively difficult to make a mistake with (i.e., relatively idiot-proof).
I was/am very impressed with them.
See also: comparison of Drive Imaging backup tools (both free and commercial) - Raymond.cc compares 20 Drive Imaging Tools - AOMEI Backupper was very highly rated.

Needs Improvement:
No notes on this as at this stage. I have not found any drawbacks/limitations in either application so far.

Why I think you should use this product:
If you need good backup functionality, and particularly drive/disk cloning and subsequent partition management (as in my case, for example where I was in serious need of both), then these 2 applications could well be ideal for you.

How it compares to similar products:
I have no experience of using fully integrated backup software like this, so cannot make any useful comment.
AOMEI Backupper and AOMEI Partition Assistant were used consecutively, and did a fine job.

Conclusions:
I was very impressed by the ease and simplicity with which AOMEI Backupper created the clone and AOMEI Partition Assistant assigned the unassigned drive space to the cloned C: drive.
It arguably couldn't have been easier/simpler.
If the rest of the AOMEI Backupper functionality is as good, then I may drop my FreeFileSync backup program in favour of this one.
These applications seem to be so good, I reckon they could be described as "bombproof".
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As it says here: http://www.winamp.com/media-player/en
Winamp.com and associated web services will no longer be available past December 20, 2013. Additionally, Winamp Media players will no longer be available for download. Please download the latest version before that date. See release notes for latest improvements to this last release.
Thanks for supporting the Winamp community for over 15 years.
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Living Room / Re: The most disturbing news story I've read all year
« Last post by IainB on November 20, 2013, 03:37 PM »
And while those in power can easily tailor their own historical "truth" as needed, the people beneath them are stringently held hostage by emaculate records of their every waking hour to be sure that at all points they both can and will be held accountable for the merest of miss-steps.
What, "every waking hour" from from birth to death?
Would that include things such as, for example (say) birth certificates, citizenship records, religio-political affiliations and scholastic records?
Just wondering.    :tellme:
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Living Room / Re: The most disturbing news story I've read all year
« Last post by IainB on November 20, 2013, 03:26 PM »
...Sorry if I come across being narked about the IA. It only looks that way because I am>:(
Well, I don't blame you for being a bit narked about it. I was too, but only because it destroyed my silly belief that things were otherwise.

As I wrote:
My new awareness on this point means that I have just turned from being a strong supporter of Archive.org to being an indifferent non-supporter.

...and I want my donations back, as I would not have wanted to donate had I been aware of what I now understand. False pretences. It was carefully hidden in plain view behind all the hype. I really should have known better than to rely on belief. Gullible.
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Living Room / Re: silly humor - post 'em here! [warning some NSFW and adult content]
« Last post by IainB on November 20, 2013, 07:24 AM »
From The Motley Fool website:

Stupid Things Finance People Say
By Morgan Housel | November 14, 2013

My job requires reading a lot of financial news. It's one of my favorite parts. But it gives me a front-row seat to the downside of financial journalism: gibberish, nonsense, garbage, and drivel. And let me tell you, there's a lot of it.

Here are a few stupid things I hear a lot.

"They don't have any debt except for a mortgage and student loans."

OK. And I'm vegan except for bacon-wrapped steak.

"Earnings were positive before one-time charges."

This is Wall Street's equivalent of, "Other than that Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"

"Earnings missed estimates."

No. Earnings don't miss estimates; estimates miss earnings. No one ever says "the weather missed estimates." They blame the weatherman for getting it wrong. Finance is the only industry where people blame their poor forecasting skills on reality.

"Earnings met expectations, but analysts were looking for a beat."

If you're expecting earnings to beat expectations, you don't know what the word "expectations" means.

"It's a Ponzi scheme."

The number of things called Ponzi schemes that are actually Ponzi schemes rounds to zero. It's become a synonym for "thing I disagree with."

"The [thing not going perfectly] crisis."

Boy who cried wolf, meet analyst who called crisis.

"He predicted the market crash in 2008."

He also predicted a crash in 2006, 2004, 2003, 2001, 1998, 1997, 1995, 1992, 1989, 1984, 1971...

"More buyers than sellers."

This is the equivalent of saying someone has more mothers than fathers. There's one buyer and one seller for every trade. Every single one.

"Stocks suffer their biggest drop since September."

You know September was only six weeks ago, right?

"We're cautiously optimistic."

You're also an oxymoron.

[Guy on TV]: "It's time to [buy/sell] stocks."

Who is this advice for? A 20-year-old with 60 years of investing in front of him, or a 82-year-old widow who needs money for a nursing home? Doesn't that make a difference?

"We're neutral on this stock."

Stop it. You don't deserve a paycheck for that.

"There's minimal downside on this stock."

Some lessons have to be learned the hard way.

"We're trying to maximize returns and minimize risks."

Unlike everyone else, who are just dying to set their money ablaze.

"Shares fell after the company lowered guidance."

Guys, they just proved their guidance can be wrong. Why are you taking this new one seriously?

"Our bullish case is conservative."

Then it's not a bullish case. It's a conservative case. Those words mean opposite things.

"We look where others don't."

This is said by so many investors that it has to be untrue most of the time.

"Is [X] the next black swan?"

Nassim Taleb's blood pressure rises every time someone says this. You can't predict black swans. That's what makes them dangerous.

"We're waiting for more certainty."

Good call. Like in 1929, 1999 and 2007, when everyone knew exactly what the future looked like. Can't wait!

"The Dow is down 50 points as investors react to news of [X]."

Stop it, you're just making stuff up. "Stocks are down and no one knows why" is the only honest headline in this category.

"Investment guru [insert name] says stocks are [insert forecast]."

Go to Morningstar.com. Look up that guru's track record against their benchmark. More often than not, their career performance lags an index fund. Stop calling them gurus.

"We're constructive on the market."

I have no idea what that means. I don't think you do, either.

"[Noun] [verb] bubble."

(That's a sarcastic observation from investor Eddy Elfenbein.)

"Investors are fleeing the market."

Every stock is owned by someone all the time.

"We expect more volatility."

There has never been a time when this was not the case. Let me guess, you also expect more winters?

"This is a strong buy."

What do I do with this? Click the mouse harder when placing the order in my brokerage account?

"He was tired of throwing his money away renting, so he bought a house."

He knows a mortgage is renting money from a bank, right?

"This is a cyclical bull market in a secular bear."

Vapid nonsense. 

"Will Obamacare ruin the economy?"

No. And get a grip.
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I think you might need to change/check the title of this thread throughout, and related headings, to be consistent with "v2.22.02 - Nov 19, 2013".
It's a bit confuzzling otherwise.
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