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Developer's Corner / Re: How do I Start a Ribbon Project?

« Last post by Stoic Joker on December 30, 2011, 02:52 PM »

I tried jumping from MSVS2005 to 2010 and it annoyed the hell outta me (forget why), so ended up backing up to 2008 (which is what my NANY Got Space was done with). I tend to be trepidative with new Dev stuff ... But had a feeling that going Ribbon era UI would require 2010. Is the ribbon patient crap still going on?? Or will MSVS2010 natively support the damn thing. I just spent an hour trying to figure out how to get the damn RibbonControlsLibrary.dll stuck some where so I could compile a code sample.

Even though my last/first experience with C# went badly... I had already resigned myself to having to go that route ... I fiercely detest VB with every fiber of my being, and would rather quite programming than switch to that nonsense.

Is the Ribbon UI guide the one where it goes over when you should/shouldn't use one? Because that particular detail will most likely be decided by a committee (I bet you just said F***, didn't you? ) ... Don't worry it's a small very bright committee (and I have trump...).


My primary objective is to get started with the newer, slicker (looking) IU for the project ... And to make sure (from the start) that it is willing to be fingered without forcing the user to futz with a bunch of foreplay.

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Developer's Corner / How do I Start a Ribbon Project?

« Last post by Stoic Joker on December 30, 2011, 01:32 PM »

Okay, first of all, yes ... I have lost my mind.


I'm thinking/debating/toying with starting a project based on the Ribbon UI style interface. However... Historically I have always worked in straight WinAPI C++ (with a little pure C). So I've not a friggin clue how to even start a project based on the newer code forms.

Note: The project in question will be for integrating several disparate internal systems into one concise interface to speed up access to all of the relevant business data for the staff (e.g. I'm looking at having to do a complete rewrite of everything from scratch).

So... What am I looking at starting with, a Forms based application, .NET, MVVM? It's an insanely huge project, so if I gotta learn something new on the fly ... I really want/need to get the maximum bang outta whatever I jump into. Only "condition is that I'll be using MSVS of what ever version is/would be best ... which is (i guess) the other question; do I need to move to MSVS2010, or will 2008 do...for creating a (MS native code) Ribbon based UI for the application framework.

Side Notes:
Tablets are getting popular at the office, so I'm looking to do something "Finger Friendly".
There may be a limited access web interface involved (IU consistency issue).
This is a Window Only Environment.

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Living Room / Re: The Christmas arms race

« Last post by Stoic Joker on December 30, 2011, 12:14 PM »

And be thankful that nobody gave you a bipod or a tripod, because then you'd be a terrorist: http://rt.com/news/t...ards-government-613/

-Renegade (December 29, 2011, 08:36 PM)

While I tend to agree with the general sentiment of that article, it does blow things out of proportion. The article (and you) makes it sound like if you buy a single tripod you're likely to be a terrorist.

-Deozaan (December 30, 2011, 11:51 AM)

Not really, intent vs. reality. Once the mistrust (/spy) on your neighbors downhill slide starts ...(McCarthy era...)... the game is already over. You have "rights" right up until you get caught up in "the system" ... Then you have a right to an attorney (maybe...). If you haven't been in "the system" (read interrogation) consider yourself lucky, and try to keep it that way. But the cost of proving your innocence can be staggering.

Remember this: It is not possible to prove that you don't know something.

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Living Room / Re: Recommendations for a hosted MS Exchange service

« Last post by Stoic Joker on December 30, 2011, 07:57 AM »

What is the hardware situation there?? Exchange for 5-20 users shouldn't really require an internal IT staff ... So if they can handle the (limited really) cost of an internal deployment ... I'd avoid the cloud stuff (yes I'm a cloud hater).

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Living Room / Re: The Christmas arms race

« Last post by Stoic Joker on December 30, 2011, 07:48 AM »

Hm... Favorite present...

A deluxe gun cleaning kit, which came with two boxes of hollow points so I can get them dirty again too.

-Stoic Joker (December 29, 2011, 02:45 PM)

Just make sure to never be honest about that stuff: http://rt.com/usa/ne...graves-gun-york-965/

-Renegade (December 29, 2011, 08:36 PM)

Ah yes... Honesty is the best fallacy... (Sadly quite true these days - Proper subjects shouldn't be armed).


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Back on Topic, Cute doggie ... The wife approves.

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Living Room / Re: The Christmas arms race

« Last post by Stoic Joker on December 29, 2011, 02:45 PM »

Hm... Favorite present...

A deluxe gun cleaning kit, which came with two boxes of hollow points so I can get them dirty again too.

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N.A.N.Y. 2012 / Re: NANY 2012 Release: Got Space?

« Last post by Stoic Joker on December 29, 2011, 02:38 PM »

@ tranglos - I swear I typed a response earlier this week, but it's just... gone... I don't know were it went.

Early in the project I ran into issues with the Floppy drives lagging the refresh and throwing errors if they were empty. Given that the BIOS forcibly assigns letters A & B to floppy drives, the handling of those two letters is a bit different to make them easier to skip early in the refresh process.

The Extended Info. dialog collects its information independent of the main interface. So the MS-DOS device name will correctly show the actual target path of the drive letter. It takes a bit of getting used to, but it is handy (at least for me) for finding out where a mapped/SUBST'ed/DFS drive letter actually points.

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Living Room / Re: Hosters are impossible. (A.k.a. get me what I want, not what I don't want!)

« Last post by Stoic Joker on December 29, 2011, 10:20 AM »

Many of the domain registrars offer mail hosting for parked domains for only a few dollars more than the standard registration fee ... And if you only want one mailbox it sometimes included for free.

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Living Room / Re: The Christmas arms race

« Last post by Stoic Joker on December 29, 2011, 08:16 AM »

A 6 week-old Boston Terrier puppy!

-kyrathaba (December 28, 2011, 07:50 PM)

You are going to HAVE to post a picture, you know that I hope?

-oblivion (December 29, 2011, 04:12 AM)

Indeed ... My wife insists... (we have 3 Boston Terriers).

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Living Room / Re: Season's Greetings December 2011

« Last post by Stoic Joker on December 25, 2011, 07:32 AM »

Merry Christmas to all.

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Living Room / Re: Reddit Leaving GoDaddy because of SOPA Support

« Last post by Stoic Joker on December 24, 2011, 12:49 PM »

I think that with the quick reversal, and the prior history of good behaviour, this isn't one of those things.  If they dragged their feet in the mud and had to be pulled screaming, then I'd say so.  But not in this case.  The RIAA - yeah, I can see that.  The MPAA - yeah, I can see that too.  But this...?

-wraith808 (December 24, 2011, 11:40 AM)

I'm not so sure. The quick reversal bothers me. It feels like the New Hotness way of doing things. "Let's announce a position! Ooh, we're getting boycotted! Okay, let's announce the opposite position!"

Trouble is, it's far from clear that the *second (and good)* position will stick any better!

In my opinion, we're seeing a new breed of politics. "Announce something, and if the public is too exhausted to shout loud enough, do it. If they do shout loudly then:  reverse it, wait until it becomes Old News, then slide a weaker form of it in later."

-TaoPhoenix (December 24, 2011, 12:45 PM)

+1 Nailed it! 

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Living Room / Re: Reddit Leaving GoDaddy because of SOPA Support

« Last post by Stoic Joker on December 24, 2011, 12:22 PM »

The SOPA is an incredible dangerous piece of legislation that requires a crystal clear message. We The People, will not tolerate the further weakening (and destruction) of the Constitution.

-Stoic Joker (December 24, 2011, 10:55 AM)

So then make the point where it should be made.  Anyone that even thought about voting for this shouldn't be in office come their next term.  But the voting is so dissociated from the actions of the politicians, that I doubt even the most frothing at the mouth anti-SOPA voter will even think about it come next election.  Because other things matter more.  Like... frothing at the mouth over party divisions.  Or something.  I'm not sure what... but there's something!

-wraith808 (December 24, 2011, 11:40 AM)

Congress was bought and paid for years ago, at this point we might as well just go after the (corporations directly) ones that are paying for their answers. Sure it's a bit like shooting the messenger - GD isn't one of the really big (problem) fish - But nothing says hell no better that a head on a stick.

You know that you're sending mixed signals now, eh?

-Renegade (December 24, 2011, 11:08 AM)

That was a calculated risk, but I thought the joke fit rather nicely. Moral being that some things just cannot be overlooked regardless of previous good behavior.

-Stoic Joker (December 24, 2011, 11:11 AM)

I think that with the quick reversal, and the prior history of good behavior, this isn't one of those things.  If they dragged their feet in the mud and had to be pulled screaming, then I'd say so.  But not in this case.  The RIAA - yeah, I can see that.  The MPAA - yeah, I can see that too.  But this...?

I won't be pulling out at this time.  They've gone out of their way to help me at times, and not just to correct the problem, but to help me understand.  But that's just my opinion and my experience.  Let each person's wallet speak for them.

-wraith808 (December 24, 2011, 11:40 AM)

I've met a lot of really nice people in outlaw motorcycle gangs ... But I'm still disinclined to join one. 

^^Them I trust^^, they have honor, The SOPA crowd... Not so much.

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Living Room / Re: Reddit Leaving GoDaddy because of SOPA Support

« Last post by Stoic Joker on December 24, 2011, 11:11 AM »

You know that you're sending mixed signals now, eh?

-Renegade (December 24, 2011, 11:08 AM)

That was a calculated risk, but I thought the joke fit rather nicely. Moral being that some things just cannot be overlooked regardless of previous good behavior.

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Living Room / Re: Reddit Leaving GoDaddy because of SOPA Support

« Last post by Stoic Joker on December 24, 2011, 11:06 AM »

Pulling out says that there is no forgiveness... But, it also says to other companies that they had better not go down that path to start with...

-Renegade (December 24, 2011, 10:47 AM)

Spoiler

so some people are on a traditional tour of the irish countryside. their driver, seamus, is more than happy to explain to them the involvement he had in creating each of the stops they visit.

"ya see that wall over there?" he says..
"built it with me own two hands...but do they call me seamus the wall builder? noooo"

they drive down the road a bit....

"ya see that house over there?"
"built it with me own two hands...but do they call me seamus the house builder?"
"noooo"

a little further down.....

"ya see that castle over there?"
"built it with me own two hands...but do they call me seamus the castle builder?"
"noooo"



"but you fuck one little sheep..."

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Living Room / Re: Reddit Leaving GoDaddy because of SOPA Support

« Last post by Stoic Joker on December 24, 2011, 10:55 AM »

But what we do know is that those people are still employed there, and boycotting after a reversal will hurt them, and make the case less clear cut for people trying to work from the inside in the future.

-wraith808 (December 24, 2011, 10:16 AM)

I'm sure there are many good (albeit horrible misguided...) people that work for the RIAA, but that's not an excuse to cut-them-a-break. The SOPA is an incredible dangerous piece of legislation that requires a crystal clear message. We The People, will not tolerate the further weakening (and destruction) of the Constitution.

A bad idea is just that. A bad idea. And the SOPA is a bad idea. Any mercy shown will only give rise to the perception that maybe it just needs a better spin, or a more subtle pitch/insertion. The corporations need to be fearful of the people ... Not the other way around, which is where it's headed. An example must be made.

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Living Room / Re: Reddit Leaving GoDaddy because of SOPA Support

« Last post by Stoic Joker on December 24, 2011, 09:20 AM »

Cripes... This is going to take forever...

-Renegade (December 24, 2011, 08:50 AM)

It might not actually be that bad. When I transfered the company domain name from Network Solutions over to Hover.com they gave temporary access to the domain name control panel so I could preconfigure the DNS info while the transfer was being finalized. So the switchover was completely seamless.

Hover is owned by TuCows btw. 

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Living Room / Re: Reddit Leaving GoDaddy because of SOPA Support

« Last post by Stoic Joker on December 24, 2011, 08:44 AM »

Please keep the boycott going
http://www.reddit.co..._sopa_flipflop_is_a/

-nosh (December 24, 2011, 02:09 AM)

Hmmm... I'm waffling...

-Renegade (December 24, 2011, 05:39 AM)

Don't.

I like forgiveness and redemption...

-Renegade (December 24, 2011, 05:39 AM)

Most people do, but it doesn't apply here.

Not sure if it's just PR whoredom on GoDaddy's part or not...

-Renegade (December 24, 2011, 05:39 AM)

Total whore-age to the N'th power.

But like why would they ever get behind something that insane to begin with? Baffled... 

-Renegade (December 24, 2011, 05:39 AM)

Hello! This ain't a mistake what got learned from. Unless of course the "lesson" was don't get caught. It's a pure and simple evil corporate money grab attempt at backing-the-winning-pony. They recoiled because they got $panked ... Not because they learned anything/had a change of "heart"/realized it was wrong...

I say boil them in oil as an example to the rest.

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N.A.N.Y. 2012 / Re: NANY 2012 Release: Got Space?

« Last post by Stoic Joker on December 23, 2011, 10:46 PM »

Special thanks to kunkel321 for creating the icon. Got Space? is now final at v1.0.0.35

Source code also available in the first post of thread.

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N.A.N.Y. 2012 / Re: NANY Folk, I can make your icon if you want...

« Last post by Stoic Joker on December 23, 2011, 08:19 PM »

Excellent, Thank You!

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N.A.N.Y. 2012 / Re: NANY Folk, I can make your icon if you want...

« Last post by Stoic Joker on December 23, 2011, 04:23 PM »

Maybe just a touch greener ... But that'll work.

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N.A.N.Y. 2012 / Re: NANY Folk, I can make your icon if you want...

« Last post by Stoic Joker on December 23, 2011, 01:23 PM »

Okay, pie on the right is perfect. Question mark with drop shadow is great also maybe make it just a touch smaller and/or lower so it fits within the pie (I have a odd "sense" of symmetry).

Green question mark was Batman's Joker ... But I'm ok with that (Keep the green).

Font. ROFL ...What a brilliant question! To sum up the essence of a thing with a single character ... One must indeed chose quite carefully. I believe this is an MS Office font, but I'm not completely sure:




@PhilB66 - Thanks, but I just hate to give up and grab something off-the-shelf, when we're on the verge of greatness (or the edge of a cliff *Shrug* However it turns out...)

 

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Living Room / Re: Adware is not freeware, right?

« Last post by Stoic Joker on December 23, 2011, 08:37 AM »

Granted only nominally related, but...

One of the things that I noticed (with great dismay) about the new TV is it works quite well with the new program listings system that the provider just rolled out. It now has a built-in messaging system...Which means they can now spam my TV with yet more Ads, that I now have to constantly keep deleting to prevent it from jumping to the "You~Have~a~Message" menu every time I try to do anything.


WTF is next? ...Popup cheeseburger ads in (dead tree) library books??

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Living Room / Re: Reddit Leaving GoDaddy because of SOPA Support

« Last post by Stoic Joker on December 22, 2011, 10:18 PM »

I've been with DomainDirect (now Hover.com) for years, and have always gotten great service. The DNS thing is unavoidable, but Hover gives you complete and easy access to all the DNS records. They also push to root in realtime...So propagation=Zoom!

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N.A.N.Y. 2012 / Re: NANY Folk, I can make your icon if you want...

« Last post by Stoic Joker on December 22, 2011, 08:30 PM »

Hm... Okay, got an idea. The icon/image really has to end up square so I'm thinking the calipers ain't helping us any. Why not just go with the pie chart basically head on but tipped just enough to show it's 3D. Set the (free space) pink to only 20% (because it's pink...) with the rest blue (I like blue), and then overlay a question mark. Which will track with the program's name.

It's not quite as exciting ... but it should be easier to optimize so it can be both small and recognizable.

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General Software Discussion / Re: best font for html email?

« Last post by Stoic Joker on December 22, 2011, 05:19 PM »

Most people don't seem to like receiving email that looks like an 1890-vintage telegram.

-40hz (December 22, 2011, 05:08 PM)

  Nailed it!