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I can recall less than 20 ish really negative replies I have received to 5000 posts I have made on the web.-TaoPhoenix (October 22, 2012, 08:47 AM)
20ish? That's all??? Your lucky. I've found it don't matter how neutral you try to be on a subject, there's always a herd of schittheads that make it their personal agenda to write something negative in response. There's always someone that will pick apart whatever you say and try to turn it into something out of context, with the main agenda to pick a fight or bully. You know.....Trolls.-Tinman57 (October 22, 2012, 06:46 PM)
Ok, I made the changes to tray tip and added a green left arrow custom icon.-MilesAhead (October 22, 2012, 09:27 PM)
It's obvious! Very Hard Website! He's trying to challenge himself!
No?-wraith808 (October 22, 2012, 05:13 PM)
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Meanwhile, from the DOIS (Department of Incomplete Software Development) comes news that their latest development project for a CRIS (Customer Relationship Infuriation System) is being released as just a front-end GUI which does nothing very much as they have not yet thought about the design for the CRIS product itself. They are currently considering embodying facets of Amazon and PayPal excellent CRIS into the yet-to-be-designed product.-IainB (October 22, 2012, 03:59 PM)
Top secret experimental strange ... project idea.
Details to be revealed later..-mouser (October 22, 2012, 10:37 AM)
The Web IS different. It really is.-TaoPhoenix (October 22, 2012, 08:47 AM)
Dunno. It's a public place like any other AFAICT.
Why do people go into public spaces? To flirt a little. To do some business. To entertain or be entertained. To get the news. To preach 'the word,' be it religious or political. To find somebody interesting to talk to.
Maybe the web gives you newer and more efficient ways to do all of that. But I don't really see anything on a fundamental level that's any different than what has come before. It's one more "tool for conviviality" as I forgot who put it.
Most of the people arguing for the Internet's "newness" and how it represented a "break with everything that came before" were people in their 20-s and 30s. Most were what would generally be considered geek types. Not exactly the best 'read' people when it came to understanding history, anthropology, philosophy, or psychology.
Interesting to note how so little of the "real promise" the web advocates claimed it represented ever came to pass. The web gave us more of "more," but not really much that was "different."
The web? Sure. Maybe it''s faster. Or cheaper. Or (so far) more consequence and responsibility free than much of what came before it. But viewed as what it is, and what it's used for, it's the 'same old same old.' The only real difference is found in it's efficiency AFAIC.
There are those who see it differently.
YMMV.-40hz (October 22, 2012, 09:07 AM)
wow.
bad and odd and weird - and really bad press for Amazon.-tomos (October 22, 2012, 08:57 AM)
Note: liberties will be lost. But I don't blame the people screaming for redress. There will always be opportunists that seize on the what asking for additional regulations will present. I blame the people who knew better and could have kept the situation under control - but decided not to.-40hz (October 22, 2012, 08:07 AM)
But those people aren't the victimized ones. Because the elected representatives couldn't/wouldn't get it under control, it's ok to the people victimized?-wraith808 (October 22, 2012, 08:23 AM)
Added emphasis.
Government officials/others could have done something but didn't. Innocent people get caught in crossfire. Because government officials didn't address it, the innocents are just collateral damage?-wraith808 (October 22, 2012, 08:57 AM)
So it goes.
People do what people do.
Why is there this odd belief (bordering on religious conviction in some quarters) that somehow the web (which is just another human creation) can possibly be any different?-40hz (October 22, 2012, 08:42 AM)
Note: liberties will be lost. But I don't blame the people screaming for redress. There will always be opportunists that seize on the what asking for additional regulations will present. I blame the people who knew better and could have kept the situation under control - but decided not to.-40hz (October 22, 2012, 08:07 AM)
But those people aren't the victimized ones. Because the elected representatives couldn't/wouldn't get it under control, it's ok to the people victimized?
I had a bad experience with someone online trying to get into my real life. It is for that reason that I don't readily give out my personal information. I know that this is only the veneer of anonymity, but it is how I've gone on since that happened, as it was very traumatic when it happened. I stand behind everything said online- other than a few communities and online games, I don't directly interact with anyone, partially as a result of this, and realizing that just because I'm who I say that I am, that doesn't mean that everyone else is. So it's easier to keep a distance, and that lack of personal knowledge helps with that. But I'm the same offline as online, other than the fact that I'm less thoughtful in person- my mind moves too fast for my mouth, and I switch topics at the drop of a hat because the conversation gets confused reconciling the two, making it hard to communicate. Writing slows that down, which is why I like to write a lot.
Even if it's only a veneer of anonymity, why is it ok if someone decides that they are upset with what I wrote and goes and posts my name, address, and who knows what else anonymous posted? Am I not entitled to share what I want to without fear that some pissed off person will go digging and it will be ok?-wraith808 (October 22, 2012, 08:23 AM)
Yeah, iceberg tips are right, and some of this assumes it's "innocent people with nothing to hide righteously turning in the trolls." We'll also get trolls "turning in" the innocents, the government and corporations turning people in to each other, and all the variants in between.-TaoPhoenix (October 22, 2012, 06:57 AM)
This.
This is how liberties are lost. With the best of intentions.
IMHO, of course.-wraith808 (October 22, 2012, 07:48 AM)
Good old Germany, where software patents are illegal.-Tuxman (October 22, 2012, 08:05 AM)
Actually it is not. The number of fucks I give concerning US-American laws equals a number smaller than or equal to 0.
And I am pretty sure that neither the GPL nor the BSD license (or, randomly, the WTFPL) are actual copyright licenses.-Tuxman (October 22, 2012, 07:51 AM)
Not unless it is actually copyrighted.-Tuxman (October 22, 2012, 07:47 AM)
Oh, I randomly find my software on obscure third-party websites too.-Tuxman (October 22, 2012, 07:45 AM)
I'd be more nervous if those sites have programs that *claim* that you wrote them and you have never heard of them before! 
However, verb "found" I used is very vague and should have been replaced with something more clear, and again that is mistake and if you prefer you may delete my post because of that, though I don't think it is off-topic.-ivanii (October 22, 2012, 02:34 AM)
)If you make a habit of hurting and annoying people, it's only a matter of time before they start hitting back. That should come as no surprise to anyone.
As far as all this being a sea change? Maybe nothing quite that dramatic. But I think it's certainly an indication that people have become familiar enough with the web, and the technology behind it, that they now realize they're not as helpless as they once thought.
These particular stories will soon be old news.
But far from it being over, I think this is just the tip of the iceberg.-40hz (October 22, 2012, 02:56 AM)
