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Living Room / Re: silly humor - post 'em here! [warning some NSFW and adult content]

« Last post by IainB on March 20, 2014, 04:39 PM »

It's hard to explain puns to kleptomaniacs because they always take things literally.

-crabby3 (March 18, 2014, 10:38 AM)

That one made me literally laugh out loud! I love it. (c:

-Deozaan (March 19, 2014, 07:38 PM)

Yes, thanks @crabby3 for that list of great puns. Some new material (for me) there.

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Living Room / Re: silly humor - post 'em here! [warning some NSFW and adult content]

« Last post by IainB on March 20, 2014, 04:28 PM »

@crabby3: being a bit of a petrolhead, I was curious about that engine and whether it really was a diesel. In the bit of it that you could see in that half-picture, it looked rather nice. After a quick DuckGo search I established that it was a photo of a Paccar MX-13 series 6-cyl inline diesel: (looks like a beautiful piece of engineering)



I also found I was connected with Paccar (in a manner of speaking), after reading in this potted history of the DAF brand that Paccar - a huge American multinational - had acquired DAF and some other UK/European truck companies, including Foden in Sandbach, Cheshire (UK). The connection is that, coincidentally, I once shared a flat in Sandbach with a bloke who, in his spare time, acted in the role of Captain in the Territorial Army (part of the UK Army Reserve) in truck engineering and maintenance, and in his day-job worked at the Foden truck factory in Sandbach.

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Living Room / Re: OneNote now on Mac as well, +FREE everywhere, + Cloud service powered.

« Last post by IainB on March 20, 2014, 05:30 AM »

Well, I'm disgusted by this now, after reading this self-explanatory post in OutlinerSoftware.com:

Outliner Software: OneNote for Mac on the horizon...
Posted by Stephen Zeoli
Mar 18, 2014 at 05:36 PM

Ah, I knew there had to be a catch. I’ve been using OneNote 2010 on my Windows PC, which I paid for. I just downloaded the free 2013 edition, which was working just fine until I tried to create a new page in one of the notebooks that I keep on my computer (instead of on SkyDrive), and got a messages saying “Subscribe to Office to continue using this notebook.” From the “Learn more” link:

Anyone can download and use the free version of OneNote. When you subscribe to Office 365 Home Premium for just $9.99 per month, you get the premium version of OneNote, which easily integrates with the other latest Office applications and comes with additional capabilities, including the ability to:

• Create notebooks on your PC. Create notebooks saved to your hard drive (offline) in addition to being saved to your OneDrive. Being able to work with notebooks offline as well as online is great for anyone with a spotty network connection or those who are always on the go.
  
  
• Support your business needs. Your notes are synced to your OneDrive for Business, so you and your teammates can collaborate easily. For added security, you can password-protect your notebooks. And with Office 365 you get the latest Office applications, which means you get a complete note-taking experience, with embedded Excel files and added Outlook tasks, meeting notes, and contacts.
  
  
• Record your notes. Why just write or type your notes when you can video- or audio-record them at the same time? That way you’re sure not to miss any important information. Perfect for students and for those important meetings.
  

Is this the deal breaker? Maybe. I don’t want or need all my work notebooks, which I keep on my PC at the office, floating around on SkyDrive or on my other devices. Indeed, there is no such thing as a free lunch.

Steve Z.

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Living Room / Re: OneNote now on Mac as well, +FREE everywhere, + Cloud service powered.

« Last post by IainB on March 20, 2014, 05:15 AM »

Looks like OneNote FREE for the Mac is a seriously hobbled version: OneNote now free… or is it? | Welcome to Sherwood

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Living Room / Re: OneNote now on Mac as well, +FREE everywhere, + Cloud service powered.

« Last post by IainB on March 20, 2014, 04:59 AM »

Why would they not be up-front about it? What would they expect to achieve otherwise? Wait for the unavoidable backlash when people realised that they had been conned? That doesn't make sense. It would be self-inflicted highly negative word-of-mouth advertising. This would be a stupid thing to do, from a marketing perspective alone. It would not make sense.
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-IainB (March 20, 2014, 12:55 AM)

One of the news sites called it a freemium^w version, which I think looks to be more or less accurate.
Perhaps if they had called it "OneNote Cloud", to differentiate it from the full version.
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-Jibz (March 20, 2014, 03:36 AM)

Well, I don't see how the news sites could necessarily act as spokespersons or interpreters for Microsoft, who have already clearly indicated (QED) in their adverts that the FREE version makes OneNote available EVERYWHERE and is available on all devices (including PCs), for viewing stuff ONLINE and OFFLINE (see my diagram above illustrating this).

By the way, I have edited that bit you quoted so that it now reads:
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I don't understand.
If this discovery is the case - i.e., that client-based "offline" Notebooks are a disabled feature - then Microsoft's launch and advertising for this would seem to have been deliberately obfuscating/misleading. Furthermore, if they had wanted money for what is currently given away free, then it could probably arguably have been fraudulent.
What would be to gain by MS not being up-front about it? What would they expect to achieve otherwise? Wait for the unavoidable backlash when people realised that they had been conned? That doesn't make sense. It would be self-inflicted highly negative word-of-mouth advertising. This could seem to be a stupid thing to do, from a marketing perspective alone. It would not make sense.
And why such a big download file if there was to be no OneNote offline desktop functionality? Surely not a Trojan of some kind?
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Living Room / Re: OneNote now on Mac as well, +FREE everywhere, + Cloud service powered.

« Last post by IainB on March 20, 2014, 04:36 AM »

I asked the Q above:

Has anyone following this discussion been able to use client-based "offline" OneNote Notebooks purely via this FREE install - i.e, without having, for example, MS Office 2013 or 2010 or 2007 installed as well?

Another Q: Has anyone managed to download, install and operate a 32-bit version of OneNote FREE?
The comments above seem to have been all about 64-bit installs only, with 64-bit installs being downloaded even when a 32-bit install had been requested.
I do know from my installation of MS Office 2013 that the recommended install was 32-bit rather than 64-bit, because of limited integration of the 64-bit products to date (including IE 64-bit) - and I think that is still the case.
Maybe an All-32-bit install of the OneNote FREE would work OK?

Out of interest, I'm about to double-check whether there's any difference between using IE 32-bit and IE 64-bit with OneNote 2013 and OneNote FREE online.

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Living Room / Re: OneNote now on Mac as well, +FREE everywhere, + Cloud service powered.

« Last post by IainB on March 20, 2014, 04:16 AM »

Below is an assembled image of the sequence related to opening the ONLINE Notebook on the PC. Also shows Help notes.

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Living Room / Re: OneNote now on Mac as well, +FREE everywhere, + Cloud service powered.

« Last post by IainB on March 20, 2014, 12:55 AM »

Not trying to be funny, but I don't get it. No offline notes at all or only in certain cases (created on PC?) it won't be available offline? Colour me confused  
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-rgdot (March 19, 2014, 10:47 AM)

I just tried creating a new notebook on my computer instead of the cloud like the default one, and got the same dialogue saying this version can only create notebooks on OneCloud .
I am starting to feel there is a lot of information about this free offer that would have been handy on the download page instead of all the stock photos of happy people .

-Jibz (March 19, 2014, 10:55 AM)

I don't understand.
If this discovery is the case - i.e., that client-based "offline" Notebooks are a disabled feature - then Microsoft's launch and advertising for this would seem to have been deliberately obfuscating/misleading. Furthermore, if they had wanted money for what is currently given away free, then it could probably arguably have been fraudulent.
What would be to gain by MS not being up-front about it? What would they expect to achieve otherwise? Wait for the unavoidable backlash when people realised that they had been conned? That doesn't make sense. It would be self-inflicted highly negative word-of-mouth advertising. This could seem to be a stupid thing to do, from a marketing perspective alone. It would not make sense.
And why such a big download file if there was to be no OneNote offline desktop functionality? Surely not a Trojan of some kind?



Has anyone following this discussion been able to use client-based "offline" OneNote Notebooks purely via this FREE install - i.e, without having, for example, MS Office 2013 or 2010 or 2007 installed as well?

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Mini-Reviews by Members / Re: AOMEI Backupper FREE + AOMEI Partition Assistant FREE - Mini-Review

« Last post by IainB on March 19, 2014, 05:34 AM »

2014-03-19 2330hrs: Updated opening post review to include links to DC Forum discussions:

• AOMEI Partition Assistant Professional Edition 5.5 free.
• Comparison of Drive Imaging backup tools (both free and commercial): Raymond.cc compares 20 Drive Imaging Tools - AOMEI Backupper was very highly rated.

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Living Room / Test of the OneNote Clipper bookmarklet "button" that you drag to Favorites.

« Last post by IainB on March 19, 2014, 04:35 AM »

Test of the OneNote Clipper bookmarklet "button" that you drag to Favorites:
My test results indicate that this takes an image of an entire web page (a scrolled-window image, much like Screenshot Captor, but without all the palaver associated with the latter), but:
(a) The image is of the entire web page, regardless of whether you have only selected/highlighted a part of the page.
(b) It doesn't seem to work in Firefox v28ß (could be my Firefox settings, I suppose).
(c) It works perfectly in IE11.

The way I work, my objective is usually to save selected parts, or all, of a web page in HTML format and often with attached/nested pages/files.
Thus I rarely take such images/screenshots, and the OneNote Clipper is not of much use to me.
However, when I want to capture an image of an entire scrolled web page, in future I shall consider using OneNote Clipper rather than SC (if I remember).
So, I shall continue to use Firefox with the Scrapbook extension for capturing part/all of a web page in HTML format (having come across nothing better with a non-proprietary format, or greater reliability so far).

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Living Room / Re: OneNote now on Mac as well, +FREE everywhere, + Cloud service powered.

« Last post by IainB on March 19, 2014, 03:43 AM »

@Jibz: Was this experience (above) purely from using the FREE OneNote download/install? Was it the 32 or 64 bit version?

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Living Room / Re: OneNote now on Mac as well, +FREE everywhere, + Cloud service powered.

« Last post by IainB on March 19, 2014, 01:11 AM »

^^ Yes, if the software installation file size is a critical limit for software acceptance (maybe because of disk capacity constraint, or something), then it might be wise to avoid it.
I don't recall seeing how large all the installation files were that were downloaded for MS Office Pro 2013, but it didn't take all that long to download and install. If the installation file for the FREE version of just OneNote (including OneDrive) is over 1Gb, then it seems a tad excessive. By comparison, the Win8.iso install file was only 2.8Gb.

Some relevant posts worth reading on The Microsoft Office Blog

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Living Room / Re: OneNote now on Mac as well, +FREE everywhere, + Cloud service powered.

« Last post by IainB on March 18, 2014, 08:47 PM »

...So, now to remove this bloated piece of ...

-4wd (March 18, 2014, 06:20 PM)

Ruddy heck. Poor you.
I haven't installed the FREE version. I assumed it would not be problematic.
I am just looking at using my v2013 with the apps., as described above, and so do not need to install the FREE version. I already have MS Office Pro 2013 + OneDrive, on the client.

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Living Room / Re: OneNote now on Mac as well, +FREE everywhere, + Cloud service powered.

« Last post by IainB on March 18, 2014, 08:43 PM »

I've been spending some time setting this up in my OneDrive/OneNote.com account

-IainB (March 18, 2014, 09:47 AM)

You're a long-time user of OneNote, presumably the existing payware version.  Have you installed OneNote Cloud/free separately, or, how do the old payware and new free versions play together, please?

-rjbull (March 18, 2014, 03:37 PM)

Sorry, I can't answer that. I would have to do a lot of work to test the FREE only version, so I am not going to do that. My interest is mostly in using my v2013 with the API functions/apps.:

• 1. OneNote Clipper for saving web pages to OneNote
• 2. [email protected] for emailing notes to OneNote
• 3. Office Lens for capturing documents and whiteboards with your Windows Phone
• 4. Sending blog and news articles to OneNote from Feedly, News360 and Weave
• 5. Easy document scanning to OneNote with Brother, Doxie Go, Epson, and Neat
• 6. Writing notes with pen and paper and sending them to OneNote with Livescribe
• 7. Mobile document scanning to OneNote with Genius Scan and JotNot
• 8. Having your physical notebooks scanned into OneNote with Mod Notebooks
• 9. Connecting your world to OneNote with IFTTT

So far, I don't have much use for 4., 7., and 8., but these are of interest:

• 1. OneNote Clipper looks rather nifty, but I am still trialling it. I am hoping it will make Scrapbook obsolete. Just what I was needing/wanting. We shall see.
• 2. [email protected] for emailing notes to OneNote. Very handy. Just what I was needing/wanting. Works out well in testing.
• 3. Office Lens for capturing documents and whiteboards with your Windows Phone. Amazing. Potentially very useful. Just what I was needing/wanting. Now all I need is a Windows phone, and this is a good reason for getting one (so I can test Office Lens).
• 5. Easy document scanning to OneNote with Brother, Doxie Go, Epson, and Neat. Could be very handy for me, using the Brother and Epson apps. Needs testing.
• 6. Writing notes with pen and paper and sending them to OneNote with Livescribe. Not sure about this yet, nor whether it duplicates the functionality of something else - e.g., (say) Office Lens.
• 9. Connecting your world to OneNote with IFTTT. Not sure about this yet.

Other points:

• I noted that OCR is built-in to the FREE package - which is just like v2007/v2013. I presume it does indexing/search of the OCRed content/images as do v2007/v2013.
• I don't know whether the FREE version does indexing/search of audio files like v2007/v2013.

By the way, there's some useful discussion on this over at OutlinerSoftware.com, where they are trying to identify some of the differences between the FREE and PAID components. It seems a bit confusing.

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Living Room / Re: OneNote now on Mac as well, +FREE everywhere, + Cloud service powered.

« Last post by IainB on March 18, 2014, 08:05 PM »

@IainB - Let's rephrase that quote you posted a tiny bit to make it more accurate:

When we started OneNote we (i.e. Microsoft) set out to revolutionize the way Microsoft can capture, annotate, and recall all the ideas, thoughts, snippets and plans in your life. As many of you have attested, OneNote is the ultimate extension for your brain, but it’s not complete if it’s not instantly available everywhere to Microsoft and its 'good friends' in government and business. We’ve already made a lot of progress in that direction with our mobile, tablet and online web experiences. But there was still a gap. People frequently asked us for OneNote on Mac, and Microsoft needed more ways to capture and analyse your content and share it with government entities and corporations to aid in their never-ending 'fishing expeditions' to idenntify potential dissidents and IP license violators - along with all the other businesses who pay us well for "targeted marketing data" which we mine from your information stores.

"If you ain't the customer - you're the product."
Macintosh users welcome!
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-40hz (March 18, 2014, 12:19 PM)

Exactly what I thought 40hz when I read the news.
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-phitsc (March 18, 2014, 03:12 PM)

^^ Yes, eggsaggerly so. Me too. I have no illusions about MS' motivation. I can only recall a few instances instance of MS having really done anything for "FREE". There's arguably "No such thing as free lunch" with MS. Hooks all over the place. In marketing they are very often at best the iron fist in a velvet glove, but at worst they sometimes seem to omit even the glove.

Bit of a rant:--------------------------
Google arguably have already overtaken MS to be the most innovative, inventive and smart marketing IT operation, and in the process they have introduced a lot of technology that has been disruptive/transformational - most of it successful/useful, some of it written off as failed ß experiments.
However, MS has a history of releasing product to grow/secure/consolidate market share and obliterate the competition, where doing something refreshingly disruptive/transformational seems to have been almost accidental. I don't intend that to mean that their products are not good - they are usually very good - it just means that their products seem often to have been deliberately hamstrung to achieve just a marketing objective - e.g., lock-in - and not necessarily major additional benefits to users. Like Apple, I suppose.

A good example might be the belated introduction of Power Pivot into Excel. This tremendously powerful tool automates a large part of complex cross-tabbing and data analysis of your data, which becomes much like a set of relational database tables. It has potentially bitten off a H-U-G-E chunk of the BI (Business Intelligence) market - but MS could probably have implemented this ages ago, if they had wanted, instead of stopping at just the chronic vlookup and Pivot Tables for as long as they did.

Another example could be Sticky Sorter (an Affinity Modelling tool) from MS Labs, now pretty much buried without trace. It even integrated with Excel for goodness' sake.
END of rant.--------------------------

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Living Room / Re: OneNote now on Mac as well, +FREE everywhere, + Cloud service powered.

« Last post by IainB on March 18, 2014, 10:07 AM »

For example (comment at OutlinerSoftware.com):

OneNote for Mac on the horizon...
Posted by Alexander Deliyannis
Mar 18, 2014 at 01:35 PM

Stephen Zeoli wrote:
>However, it causes me to worry that
>innovative apps like Outline and MagicalPad are just going to die out
>because they can’t compete with Microsoft—especially if OneNote is
>free everywhere.

I agree, this is called unfair competition in my book.

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Living Room / Re: OneNote now on Mac as well, +FREE everywhere, + Cloud service powered.

« Last post by IainB on March 18, 2014, 09:47 AM »

^^ Well, I've been spending some time setting this up in my OneDrive/OneNote.com account, and I have to say that I did not initially appreciate the implications/significance of what was listed for the details and especially of the OneNote Cloud API (see list in OP).
Very impressive indeed.

(And no, I did a search but did not see/register that earlier post by @mwb1100.)

It's not just free, it also seems to have disrupted and transformed the existing marketplace (Google Drive, EverNote, etc.).
I also checked the date in case it was April 1st.

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Mini-Reviews by Members / Re: WizNote (a PIM from China) - Mini-Review + Provisional User Forum

« Last post by IainB on March 18, 2014, 07:56 AM »

Refer: OneNote now on Mac as well, +FREE everywhere, + Cloud service powered.

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Living Room / Re: Evernote, the bug-ridden elephant.

« Last post by IainB on March 18, 2014, 07:55 AM »

Refer: OneNote now on Mac as well, +FREE everywhere, + Cloud service powered.

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Living Room / OneNote now on Mac as well, +FREE everywhere, + Cloud service powered.

« Last post by IainB on March 18, 2014, 07:52 AM »

Looks like Microsoft are about to change/disrupt the whole game for PIMs + Cloud services:
(Copied below sans embedded hyperlinks/images.)

OneNote now on Mac, free everywhere, and service powered | Office Blogs
March 17, 2014

When we started OneNote we set out to revolutionize the way people capture, annotate, and recall all the ideas, thoughts, snippets and plans in their life. As many of you have attested, OneNote is the ultimate extension for your brain, but it’s not complete if it’s not instantly available everywhere. We’ve already made a lot of progress in that direction with our mobile, tablet and online web experiences. But there was still a gap. People frequently asked us for OneNote on Mac, and for more ways to capture content.

Today we’re excited to complete that story with three major developments:

• 1. OneNote for Mac is available for the first time and for free. With this, OneNote is now available on all the platforms you care about: PC, Mac, Windows tablets, Windows Phone, iPad, iPhone, Android and the Web. And they’re always in sync.
  
  
• 2. OneNote is now free everywhere including the Windows PC desktop and Mac version because we want everyone to be able to use it. Premium features are available to paid customers.
  
  
• The OneNote service now provides a cloud API enabling any application to connect to it. This makes it easier than ever to capture ideas, information and inspirations from more applications and more places straight into OneNote, including:
  
  • OneNote Clipper for saving web pages to OneNote
  • [email protected] for emailing notes to OneNote
  • Office Lens for capturing documents and whiteboards with your Windows Phone
  • Sending blog and news articles to OneNote from Feedly, News360 and Weave
  • Easy document scanning to OneNote with Brother, Doxie Go, Epson, and Neat
  • Writing notes with pen and paper and sending them to OneNote with Livescribe
  • Mobile document scanning to OneNote with Genius Scan and JotNot
  • Having your physical notebooks scanned into OneNote with Mod Notebooks
  • Connecting your world to OneNote with IFTTT

Go to www.onenote.com to get OneNote for free for your Mac, PC or other devices, and try out the new OneNote service connected experiences.
... (Read the rest at the link.)

This also would seem to be relevant to the DC Forum discussion threads:

• Evernote, the bug-ridden elephant.)
• WizNote (a PIM from China) - Mini-Review + Provisional User Forum

CAUTION: Note the use of the cliché "...we're excited...". Google worked that one to death - e.g., especially with WAVE (remember that?).

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Living Room / Re: silly humor - post 'em here! [warning some NSFW and adult content]

« Last post by IainB on March 18, 2014, 07:05 AM »

Came across this comment today:

as he and the outfit he is in theory tasked to oversee on behalf of licence fee payers are oilier than a Turkish Wrestler.

I just love the alliteration highlighted.

-https://www.donationcoder.com/forum/index.php?topic=16974.msg351419#msg351419

One question concerning this confusing conundrum: Where's the alleged alliteration at?

-Deozaan (March 18, 2014, 01:10 AM)

Sorry for any confusion. Finger trouble. I don't know how "alliteration" got in there. I was in a hurry to answer the phone, and hit the "Post" button before answering the phone. I had meant to type "allusion to slippery customers".
It's at the link I gave: http://www.news-watch.co.uk/node/216
 - it's in the comments below the post at that link.
(Shall go back and correct my mistuk now.)

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Living Room / Re: silly humor - post 'em here! [warning some NSFW and adult content]

« Last post by IainB on March 17, 2014, 06:24 PM »

...I view myself as one of the most basic, novice-computer-users there are but had no difficulty finding/using my License Key.
Mine was emailed w/ very easy to follow directions.  Maybe these steps weren't explained as well earlier?
p.s.  Wasn't meant to be sarcastic... just *silly humor* 

-crabby3 (March 17, 2014, 05:24 PM)

Oh! Did you create that image? If so, then the sarcasm was clearly unintentional, but I saw it as dripping with suppressed sarcasm - the unmissably huge size of the key being the main thing. I mean, how could one miss it? I am always puzzled by those angry comments that complain about it.
If you did create that image, then nicely done by the way.   

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Living Room / Re: silly humor - post 'em here! [warning some NSFW and adult content]

« Last post by IainB on March 17, 2014, 06:14 PM »

Trying to understand to what extent Americans might need someone like Bloomberg to instigate a revolution in their private lives regarding customary dietary habits/needs/wants (e.g., his "big soda" ban), I was doing a search for relevant material.
Quite by chance - I think the keywords were "revolution" and "private life" - I stumbled upon this entirely unexpected and unrelated and very clever piece of fair use commentary and parody from WW II. It's a video in the Archive.org collecton of "Universal Newsreels", of Nazi film footage that was doctored by British Intelligence, put to music, and broadcast in cinemas worldwide for public ridicule/amusement: (to view and for explanation as to how this made clever reference to the then current fashions in Germany, see the commentary at the link)
Lambeth Walk – Nazi Style (1942) | The Public Domain Review.

I didn't get the full joke until I read the commentary. One still sees that kind of clever and often ironic satire or "send-up" in British humour.

The Archive.org collecton of "Universal Newsreels" also has a video (partial newsreel footage) of Eleanor Roosevelt publicly telling a joke about her husband: 1943-09-30 Mrs FDR Tells One.

One still sees that kind of remarkably self-aware and somewhat self-effacing humour in America, which is why I have always rather liked American humour and satire.

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Living Room / Re: silly humor - post 'em here! [warning some NSFW and adult content]

« Last post by IainB on March 17, 2014, 04:05 PM »

(see attachment in previous post)
"License key - good girl, you found it!"

-crabby3 (March 17, 2014, 02:56 PM)

Made me smile. Simple. Rather clever, poking fun, and heavily sarcastic too. I'm keeping a copy for future use...

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Living Room / Re: silly humor - post 'em here! [warning some NSFW and adult content]

« Last post by IainB on March 17, 2014, 03:59 PM »

“This is a very rare event,” he says. It “may well be the only chance in my lifetime to observe an occultation of a first-magnitude star.”

I guess what Kanye West did to Taylor Swift doesn't count? 

-x16wda (March 17, 2014, 09:47 AM)

Har-de-har-har. Very droll.