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Living Room / Re: Avatar Ambiguity
« Last post by CodeTRUCKER on November 08, 2010, 06:36 PM »
@Jibz - Obviously I liked it, even if it isn't a jet taking off in the fog with atmospheric moisture compression off the wings and rudder. <snicker>  All kidding aside, it is a serendipitously beautiful photo!

Ok, in the interest of removing any ambiguity, I think it would be appropriate for everyone to "open our eyes" to the verity of your avatar (if it is not your own visage).
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That looks good already:

"FleXYfiles"

that was one of the stipulations for the new name -XY- he can now continue with e.g. the new XY icon

Hey Tomos, thanks for the  :up:

Frankly, I think DonL is making a mistake if he does not maintain some "XY" name recognition

eh, he plans to ('maintain some "XY" name recognition'). Also says he's going to keep the old name too.

Hmmm... Just for clarity... DonL wrote "FlexyFiles" (note the lower-case "xy") above.  My suggestion and what I was referring to is to "maintain" highlighting the "XY" as in "FleXYfiles" (upper-case "XY," lower-case "f").

I intended no criticism of the name he has chosen; on the contrary, I love the way "FleXYfiles" rolls off the tongue!  I was suggesting the observation of one of the cardinal rules of marketing products... "consistent branding."

At any rate, I am off to take advantage of a great discount!  Kudos to DonL! :Thmbsup:
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General Software Discussion / Re: What's the best The BAT! version?
« Last post by CodeTRUCKER on November 08, 2010, 08:57 AM »
@ Everyone who use(ed) "The BAT!" - Could you please extend the courtesy of editing your posts to include the version number you are using?  Just saying "the latest version" is not very helpful, especially given Ritlab's versioning?


@ Mouser -
I'm very satisfied with thebat latest version.  Can't say i ever have felt any really compelling reason to upgrade but i do anyway.  But then again, that's a good part of why I'm so happy with the program -- it has always does what I need it to do and never given me any trouble.
So I take it that f0dder's comment...
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Add to that the uncanny feeling having your mail archive in a proprietary format without any easy way of getting it exported feels..."
... is nothing that concerns you?  I have to admit proprietary incarceration of *my* data bothers me too, which is why Outlook has not held a place of high regard.  I will say I have noticed that software clients that use a proprietary db do tend to be more robust and stable.
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Living Room / Re: Talk Radio... good or bad?
« Last post by CodeTRUCKER on November 08, 2010, 08:22 AM »
Thanks for the comments and link.  Ah!  It appears I was using too wide a brush.  To be more specific, I am referring to "national" or multi-regional scope.  Local radio *can* serve as a quasi "town hall" meeting.  As I read steeladept's opposing view I had additional questions present themselves.  I will have some more comment on the rebuttals, but I wanted to clarify my original scope to avoid further confusion.
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General Software Discussion / Re: SMF or phpBB... that is the question?
« Last post by CodeTRUCKER on November 07, 2010, 12:18 PM »
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http://www.forum-sof...re.org/forum-reviews

Thanks, mahesh2k, for expounding and the link.  I'll give it a read and post back if I find anything particularly noteworthy.
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General Software Discussion / Re: SMF or phpBB... that is the question?
« Last post by CodeTRUCKER on November 07, 2010, 12:16 PM »
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Just thinking out loud.  :)

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Addendum:

You also might want to consider doing hardcopy "yearbooks" from the info collected at your site to circulate and/or archive. A high quality paper copy may not last forever. But it is an inexpensive, non-volatile, hack-proof storage system that's platform independent and does not require a power source.

Good thing to have around should a cyberwar ever break out.  :tellme:

 8)


Hi 40hz,
Somehow I missed your post earlier, but Those are good thoughts and we are in sync with the "yearbook" idea.  Frankly, it looks like that or something like it will probably emerge victorious.  What would be great would be a forum that would allow an annual export which could be intelligently printed as a "yearbook" complete with cross-referencing where needed.
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General Software Discussion / Re: SMF or phpBB... that is the question?
« Last post by CodeTRUCKER on November 07, 2010, 11:22 AM »
Few more suggestions if you're interested -

1. FluxxBB
2. PunBB
3. Advanced Electron Forum

These three can replace phpbb in my opinion. I'm more biased towards first two.

Thank you, mahesh2k, for your input.  If you get a chance would you mind offering your views on the strengths/weaknesses and likes/dislikes of your suggestions?
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General Software Discussion / Re: SMF or phpBB... that is the question?
« Last post by CodeTRUCKER on November 07, 2010, 10:48 AM »
Wow!  Three different opinions, but not just opinions.  You folks are no novices when it comes to technical savvy.  No easy answer, especially if one wants to establish anything of a permanent archive.  Even if I was to become a master of SQL there is no way to ensure 20, let alone 50 (100?) years from now anyone will take up the mantle.  How tragic it would be to generate TBs of rich familial heritage (data) only to have it scattered to the Van Allen Belt decades (or less) from now.

Hmmm... food for thought, indeed. 

You know I once calculated how many pages 2GB of *.txt data would be.  I came up with the equivalent of 26 sets of an exhaustive encyclopedia. 

It may be that some hybrid form of forum, email and and a *.txt file that copies can be kept on individual's hard drives (and print) might be the best path.  At least in the event of an Internet takeover (I'm in sync with Carol on this one) each branch of the family would have a viable copy which should ensure the best possible chance of perennial retention.  I don't want to ignore the benefits of the status quo as far as Internet technology goes, but I need to find a way to dovetail the present exertions with the needs of my future heritage. 

I have often wondered what life on this Earth would be today, if a thousand years ago every father carried a burden for their future progeny for the next millennium like I do?  I am persuaded the only reason bad men have succeeded is not because good men have done nothing, but that good men did not do enough.  I will have to cogitate much on an appropriate architecture and plan to move my vision forward.         

Thank you, gentle folk.  You have enlightened my pathway.  :)
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General Software Discussion / Re: What's the best The BAT! version?
« Last post by CodeTRUCKER on November 07, 2010, 10:11 AM »
I moved from TheBAT to Thunderbird; I didn't like the "skinning" and draggable toolbars they added (makes the app look uglier, and there were enough reasonable things to spend their development time on instead of that useless crap). Add to that the uncanny feeling having your mail archive in a proprietary format without any easy way of getting it exported feels...

Thunderdbird definitely isn't perfect, but it works well enough that it's a viable choice for me, and I know it will be easy migrating to something else if necessary, because it uses industry standard message store format (yes, mbox is an utterly lame format, and totally unsuitable for file-based backups, but just about anything can process it :)).

Given the above and aside from the free vs. pay issue, do you see Postbox as an improvement to TB or is it heading in the wrong direction?
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Living Room / Re: Avatar Ambiguity
« Last post by CodeTRUCKER on November 07, 2010, 01:15 AM »
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@CodeTRUCKER - I think your spoiler is right after looking at it again. Good eye. That was hard to see.

Thanks for the flowers!  It only took me a little over three years to see it!
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Developer's Corner / Re: Is "easy" learning a valid (quality) experience?
« Last post by CodeTRUCKER on November 07, 2010, 01:07 AM »
This seems a bit like the old "buy vs. build" debate. (This is strongly related, though it does stray somewhat -- in any event, it's still in the same "thought mode".)
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Good argument, but wrong target.  :)

What I am really shooting for is the validity of "Instant Breakfast" learning versus "paying the dues" of old-school methods.  "Does the new methods produce the "right" results?" (I'll leave the definition of "right" to the reader.)

In the old days I remember when a function on the computer failed I was able to actually read the memory dumps and find the problem and guess what?  I could fix it!  Now days there is never time to fix a computer when something goes south.  "Reboot!" is the dogmatic mantra.  

I realize that trying to compare a couple of hundred punched cards in PL-1 with the 50 million lines of code (to say nothing of the fifty or so layers of dependency in the architecture) of Vista is ludicrous, but I knew what was really happening in those three hundred statements.  Does anyone really know anything for sure about what is really happening in those 50M lines?  

In 1964 "Fail-Safe" prophesied our present circumstance when Gordon Knapp explained to Sen. Raskob and Gen. Bogan...
"Look, it's just that the more complicated these electronic systems are... the more accident-prone they become."

So, here we are in 2010.  The new has certainly produced quantity, but how does it stack up on quality?  (Again, I'll leave the reader the chore of defining, "quality.")


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Living Room / Re: Nice Keyboard, However...
« Last post by CodeTRUCKER on November 07, 2010, 12:59 AM »
I have this lighted keyboard.

Logitech Lighted Keyboard.png

I have used it for almost a year and I love it!  It is not "clicky" like an old IBM AT, nor is it like the mush of most laptops.  It is somewhere in between, but there is a positive feel to it, but your mileage may vary.  The "almost-click" is perfect for me as it allows me to peck away late into the night without waking anyone.  Mine has four-levels of light (High, Medium, Low and Off).

I don't know how similar mine is to the one in question, but I can vouch with confidence for the one I use.  I just discovered the following statement is on both product pages... "Every stroke you make is comfortable, fluid, and whisper-quiet with the PerfectStrokeâ„¢ key system." 

Hope this helps.  :)
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General Software Discussion / What's the best The BAT! version?
« Last post by CodeTRUCKER on November 07, 2010, 12:18 AM »
I have a license for The BAT! up to version 4.0.34, but I have not been real impressed with all I've read on Ritlabs forums.  So, I am interested in if anyone is favorably impressed with any version after 4.0.34 and why you like that version.  Thanks.

<Edit> Added, "and why you like that version" to clarify my request. </Edit>
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Hey DonL,

Hindsight is always 20-20, but just for fun consider what might have happened if you would have named it "YXplorer."  
The ambiguity is delicious!

CT

 
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Why should XYplorer customers care what name the new product has?:
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Curt,

You might be correct as far as a "customer" is concerned, but I am thinking of it as a business owner myself.  Imagine what Microsoft would lose if they changed their name to "Software Giant?"  Yet, on the "customer" side, it always provokes some insecurity whenever a long-standing and successful product gets a face-lift.  Maybe it shouldn't, but that is just human nature. 

Frankly, I think DonL is making a mistake if he does not maintain some "XY" name recognition, especially since he has enjoyed success, but as the Big Kahuna it is his prerogative to do whatever he wishes. 
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Living Room / Talk Radio... good or bad?
« Last post by CodeTRUCKER on November 06, 2010, 11:30 PM »
Note about edits in this post
Due to the potential importance of this subject, comments posted below by other members and with a desire not to manipulate this thread, all substantive additions have been coloerd purple to highlight those changes.  Modificationss in style, i.e., bolding, italics, underline, etc. are not highlighted as they serve to clarify only.  Any deletions are strikethroughs.

Also, please see the bottom of this post for important addendum.


I have held a particular persuasion on the subject of "talk radio" for more than a decade and every time I give it another chance listen I am more persuaded than before. I am not attempting to censor anyone or group.  Free speech is something we all possess, but with freedom comes responsibility.  "Talk" media is often promulgated as the "voice of the people."  This sounds good, but is only a gimmick as I am sure the reader is aware.  As an OTR trucker I have heard an entire spectrum of "talk" radio rollin' across highways and back roads of this country at all hours of the day and night.  During that time I became aware of what was really going on.  This thread is an attempt to share what I have learned...  

I am convinced it talk radio is the worst thing that could possibly have happened free people everywhere.  

I realize this is a bold statement, but if you hear me out you might see my view. Here are the tenets of my stance in more or less a sequential order.  First, some history...
  • Every revolution in history against an oppressive government occurred because the pressure of the unjust regime finally exceeded critical mass.
  • This critical mass was reached due to collective individual (as opposed to vicarious) participation.
  • As each community was touched on fire in town meetings by courageous visionaries, each person had a direct encounter to light the fuse, but no one to douse it.
  • When the fuse had been lit in enough communities, counties, states, etc. then brave men and women recognizing the value of the stakes took deliberate action against tyranny and despotism.  In other words... REVOLUTION!

Now for the present...
  • For every caller that gets to voice his/her concerns due to the pressure provoked by oppression, there are thousands/hundred-thousands/millions that are able to express their own "voice" vicariously through the caller.
  • Once the caller has a chance to express his/her opinion on the subject at hand, he/she has had his/her say and nothing more comes of it, except to ask his friend at work the next day, "Hey Mort, did you hear me on [fill in the blank] last night!?!." Please note the passion has been replaced by bravado.  The passion has dissipated.  
  • It is reasonable to assume when the other thousands/hundred-thousands/millions heard the caller express their own views they've had their say too!  Each of them in agreement with the caller, have expended their passion vicariously through the caller.  Their passion which could have led to real revolution has dissipated.
  • The end result is the passions provoked by oppressive regimes is never brought to critical mass that would actually produce a real REVOLUTION that would demand substantive correction.
  • The next time one of the thousands/hundred-thousands/millions has his/her passions aroused by injustice and oppression and gets past the almost inevitable busy signal, he/she will express a "voice" that is congruent with a collective numbers and the cycle dissipates the chance for critical mass again.

To put it in other terms, let's consider a pressure cooker...  
Historical communication restraints provided for the ability to allow the pressure to build up, contained within the "cooker" until the pressure exceeded the ability of the pot to contain it and BOOM!  REVOLUTION.
Present communication via "talk shows" are like the little weight on the top of the pressure cooker.  As soon as the PSI exceeds the 5 lbs. or whatever the weight is rated we hear the tale-tale "tsh..tsh..tsh..tsh..tsh..." The pressure never builds to anything significant, much less critical mass.  There will never be a "BOOM!"  No REVOLUTION.

Ok, there you have it!  I realize that everyone reading this could produce isolated instances which would seem to invalidate my position, but I ask you to consider this in the larger and more comprehensive scope.  I will be happy to entertain any substantive criticism, but as I said, I have held this view for more than ten years.  Regardless, I still could be wrong and I invite your comments.  Thank you.

The Prosecution rests...  :)


Addendum
  • Advertising - Talk Shows are primarily not about education or political commentary.  They are entertainment that radio and television station producers and managers procure to aggrandize as large an audience as possible.  This is done to collect advertising revenues from sponsors.  Even the so-called, non-profit "public" media (NPR, etc.) advertises their own public radio and T.V shows.
  • Exploitation - Due to the above, it is always necessary for a talk show host to "keep the pot boiling!"  If he/she does not assuage his/her listeners with more and more and more "items of interest," then the stupefied and acclimatized audience will go elsewhere in search of greater controversial distraction.
  • Resolution - This is a dirty word in the vocabulary of a talk show host.  If every topic was resolved quickly, there would be nothing left to "discuss."  Shows over.  The upshot of all of this is it is impossible for a talk show to be a valid champion of truth because it is not truth the radio stations, television stations and networks want... it is money. 
  • Revolution - When I speak of "REVOLUTION" I am not condoning violence or any kind of militant rebellion.  I recognize that due to the militaristic nature of statist oppression it is often the case that blood will be shed.  I have made my peace with how far I am willing to go in participating in a revolt, but I am not naive to the lengths others will extend themselves when the time comes.
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Living Room / Re: I'm thinking about learning how to program.
« Last post by CodeTRUCKER on November 06, 2010, 10:05 PM »
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Anyways, that's just my lazy perspective on things. :D


Renegade, I nixed your adjective because you express far too many intelligent anecdotes to be "lazy."  :)

Anyway, I don't want to hijack superboyac's thread, so I started a new thread to explore the larger question.

Ciao!
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Developer's Corner / Is "easy" learning a valid (quality) experience?
« Last post by CodeTRUCKER on November 06, 2010, 07:04 PM »
Is "easy" learning a valid (quality) experience?  I had that thought challenge me when I read this post.

The statement, "... It's just so much faster and easier if you can see it done rather than having to figure it all out yourself..." just provoked a *ping* inside my mind somewhere and I began to think.  Now, this is not a criticism of the poster.  He is well respected for his contributions and he certainly is nobody's fool, so I am hesitant to criticize his comments.  I know he is not suggesting anything resembling cheating.  I do have some thoughts that apply to a broader spectrum. 

My concern is that how common it would be for new (maybe old?) coders to just cut-and-paste from the resource and others, not bothering with the learning part.   Human nature has cheated us all out of greater value.  I have no power to do so, but I wish that every "new and improved" thing, technique and gizwort had an appropriate warning label to prevent beginners from choosing a pathway just because it is easier for the moment.

So, what do you think?  Do the "new and improved" shortcut techniques of learning coding equate to the quality of programming that is produced from paying dues in the trenches?
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Living Room / Re: I'm thinking about learning how to program.
« Last post by CodeTRUCKER on November 06, 2010, 06:48 PM »
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With things like The Code Project, you can get all those examples that show you how to get things done. It's just so much faster and easier if you can see it done rather than having to figure it all out yourself.

Yup, that looks like a very comprehensive resource.  Maybe it is just me, but I am always somewhat hesitant to embrace the "easy" path.  It's not that I want to follow the "hard" path, but I wonder if "ready-made" cut-and-paste is the best learning experience. 

Maybe I'm just becoming a dinosaur?
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General Software Discussion / Re: SMF or phpBB... that is the question?
« Last post by CodeTRUCKER on November 06, 2010, 06:41 PM »
Do you honestly think any of these technologies will still be viable in 10 years time - let alone 50 years?

Think back 50 years - what was computer technology and the internet like in 1960 ?

Change is still accelerating so what is it going to be like in 2060 ?

Yep, Carol, you are astute in your observation, but any technology that won't allow a backward compatibility of keeping valuable data (personal or otherwise) will not be acceptable to the Internet public.  

Think of the progression... consider these recent(?) "permanent record" technologies... we have gone from vinyl, reel-to-reel tape, 8-track tape, cassette tape, CD, flash drives, DVD, etc.  Even the most advanced technology can still hold data from the earliest record, especially once it is rendered in biinary.  Any data that starts in binary (offline or on the Internet) can be propagated by copy, presumably forever.

I have to start somewhere, regardless of what the future holds.  Maybe this isn't a safe bet, but I am counting on being able to "migrate" to whatever would present itself in the future give whatever hosting company I choose will still want to get a monthly payment.  :)

What do you think?
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Living Room / Avatar Ambiguity
« Last post by CodeTRUCKER on November 06, 2010, 06:25 PM »

Is it just me...

I have *looked* at this avatar (top-center) of a long-time member (who I will let remain anonymous) of DC for a long time.  What I thought I saw over the years was...

  •   A Jet lifting off from a runway heading away from your position.  (I saw this for a long time, probably because I am an aviation enthusiast nut!)

Others in my family thought it was a...
  • A whale breaching
  • A duck on the water.

Recently I finally *saw* what it was before my eyes...
Please don't click until you take your guess...
A close up of barbs on a bared-wire fence strand touched by Jack Frost!


Am I the only one?  :huh:

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Living Room / Re: I'm thinking about learning how to program.
« Last post by CodeTRUCKER on November 06, 2010, 05:57 PM »
superboyac,

I have had a chance to gauge you on and off the main forum and I am confident you'll produce the same quality result you do in everything else I've seen.  Your drive, zeal, and intelligence will see you through.  May I be so bold as to offer this simple strategy...

  • <1> Select your language.
  • <2> If this is not something you have to do for work, make a commitment to stay with your choice for...
    • One year if your involvement is major.
    • Two Years if your involvement is minor.
  • <3> After you have fulfilled the requirements of step <2> above, you will have enough perspective (wisdom) to judge what would really be "The Best" language for "You!"

I speak as one who failed to follow this simple advice and ended up chasing so many rabbits... well, I'd rather spare you that experience.  

The good news is you have a lot more going for you, so I am confident of your success!

Ciao!
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PS: Those of you who find FlexyFiles idiotic: You don't need to tell me. There is no way to please all, and I won't revise the decision anyway. ;)

DonL, I can respect that as your perrogative, but if I may be so bold as to suggest...

"Fle-XY-files" (pronounced flex-ee-files).

or like Shades alluded to...

"FleXYfiles"

Either one keeps your decided name change and still highlights the "XY" heritage all of us have come to know so affectionately.
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General Software Discussion / Re: SMF or phpBB... that is the question?
« Last post by CodeTRUCKER on November 06, 2010, 04:52 PM »
Perhaps you should detail your needs a bit more?

Done!  Thanks for the suggestion. :Thmbsup:

I'd be inclined to look at Vanilla, since it's simple and clean - but it's also pretty vanilla out of the box, which (last time I did an install) meant no avatars and such unless you install plugins.

Why do you think Vanilla would be better than SMF or phpBB?
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General Software Discussion / SMF or phpBB... that is the question?
« Last post by CodeTRUCKER on November 06, 2010, 12:29 PM »
Issue Resolved
Please keep reading if you like, but this issue has been resolved.  See below or click this shortcut.


A little background...
I have been trying to establish a FHN (Family Heritage Network) for my family and extended family since last September.  We have tried to use some FSNs (Family Social Networks), but either were too expensive or inadequate for our purposes.  

Since forums like SMF and phpBB allows threads, pictures and links I am persuaded establishing our own and having it hosted somewhere for the long-term (read: 50+ years) is our family's best option.

DC uses SMF and I have enjoyed using DC, especially with the great mods, but I have been experimenting with SMF and phpBB "out-of-the-box" and they seem to be in a dead-heat.
Kudos to Cody!
Note: One really can't appreciate all that mouser and his crew have done at DonationCoder until you use a stock SMF installation!  The modifications that have been added and or programmed into the DC forum are a part of what has made DonationCoder such a great forum experience, second only to the people that have given DC a rich identity.  Other admins would do well to follow DC's example. :Thmbsup:

I really can't see much beyond style.  Even the Admin *seems* to be the same, but I haven't dug much beneath the first layer.  I am only test-driving both and I am sure I won't hit any snags until we are actually using our FHN.  I am sure you all know how those nasty little bugs hide until the project goes live, hmmm?   ;)

Our Needs...
  • Record writings to preserve for future generations.
  • Record events for recollection and comment.
  • Ongoing discussions varied topics
  • Attach pictures, create galleries and have the freedom to caption and/or comment.
  • Link to other threads/posts/websites.
  • Have a shoutbox for quick comments and announcements.
  • Anything else that would add to creating a permanent interactive archive for an extended family.

The questions...
 Does anyone have experience with both SMF and phpBB and what are the strengths or weaknesses over the other?

 Can any DC staff comment on why SMF was chosen for "Cody's Home?"

 Are there any other better candidates than SMF or phpBB that have emerged recently?  If so, why do you think the new is better then the established workhorses?

Thanks to all for the help!
CT

<Edit - Added "Our Needs..." section.  Thanks f0dder!>
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