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Living Room / Re: Humour - how about a giggle column ...
« Last post by rjbull on May 25, 2006, 04:08 AM »
If your mind is in need of a boggle, try the The Definitive Exploding Whale Site

I owe this one to Kay Shapero, who wrote a filk (science fiction folk song) about it.

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General Software Discussion / Re: Finally, a robust keyboard shortcut app!
« Last post by rjbull on May 25, 2006, 03:49 AM »
Edvard,

I LEARNED Autohotkey from the help file. I simply typed what I thought I might need in the search box and read into the topics that came up.

Still hard going, because it's more a reference manual.  It doesn't make it very clear (to me) when and where you'd choose WinClose or WinKill, for example; more information required...  I understand the AHK forums are very active, though.

Speaking of PowerPro...
[...]
No, just those possessing bullheaded persistence. I'm as dumb as your average American, and I figured out how to put PowerPro to pretty good use.

Dumb as the average America who worked on the space program, maybe!  :)  But I still think PowerPro is hard.  I'm not the only one - even such a Titan as CarolHaynes says so;

Trouble is it is just too damn complicated to make use of. I have a very short attention span and every time I think "I'll have another go at PowerPro" it holds my attention for about half an hour and then I want to throw something at it.
full message/thread here

Edvard, can I coax you into doing some kind of min-review of PowerPro?  So that we can get an idea of its strengths and weaknesses compared to other macro programs, and how to approach it?  I couldn't even figure out how to make buttons specific to a particular program   :-[

p.s. because I can't afford 30 bucks for a fancy text editor, I use SciTe.

I "grew up" on DOS, and prefer WordStar editors.  I still use my DOS WordStar-style programs for getting any significant amount of text down on disk.  One of the nice things about AHK is that, when you run a DOS program under Win2K, AHK's hotstrings still work, if slightly slowly.


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General Software Discussion / Re: Finally, a robust keyboard shortcut app!
« Last post by rjbull on May 24, 2006, 08:31 AM »
each time I press Ctrl + F11 to have a list of all hotkeys & hotstrings, as follows:

Thanks - probably would be if I used EditPlus   ;)

I can't see the images.  Are they not available from the server yet?

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General Software Discussion / Re: Finally, a robust keyboard shortcut app!
« Last post by rjbull on May 24, 2006, 05:56 AM »
I'd still like a point-and-shoot GUI for both hotkeys and hotstrings.
Try watching less TV to unclutter your mind ;)

TV?  I've almost no use for TV.  I READ BOOKS  :D

AutoHotkey [...] perfect for the (even only slightly) advanced user.

Yes, I'd agree, on the whole.  It's mostly the Win98 etc. legacy that's keeping me interested in alternatives.  Macro Express, for example, is superifically more friendly, with incomparably more eye candy and a more glossy packaging, but its macro editor is still bewildering, largely because of the sheer volume of "stuff" available.  AHK may not be so glitzy but it's fast becoming the first recommendation for everyday macro tasks.

But oh, if they'd develop a point-and-shoot GUI shell for hotkey/hotstring files...   ;)

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General Software Discussion / Re: Finally, a robust keyboard shortcut app!
« Last post by rjbull on May 24, 2006, 05:39 AM »
Harrie,

Speaking of having a hard time remembering a slew of hot keys, that is one reason I very much like and use the program ActiveWords.   (Yeah, I use several programs simultaneously - Instant Text, ActiveWords, AHK!)
[...]
I'd love to do a review of ActiveWords some time soon! 

In the meantime, here's a link 
ActiveWords ($49.95 USD :o) looks like a combination of parts of DC's FARR and AutoHotkey to me. It seems to aim at more novice PC users, right?


Here I somewhat agree with brotherS. From the blurb on the ActiveWords site, it doesn't seem to do anything much more or different from AHK or any other competent general-purpose macro program like Macro Express.  I'll be interested to see your review of it  :)  The license is cleverly generous, in allowing an individual to use ActiveWords on any computer available to them (if I read it right) for a (moderately expensive) one-off fee.  Looks a great way to generate goodwill.

Your system works for you, but still requires a prodigious memory for shortcuts.  That's why I keep banging on about a point-and-shoot interface for the rarer ones...

Please take a look at the predictive text for ms word thread because I've quoted some of your other posts and links.

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General Software Discussion / Re: Finally, a robust keyboard shortcut app!
« Last post by rjbull on May 24, 2006, 05:27 AM »
brotherS,

I can only recommend to spend some time with AHK, it's truely amazing what you can do with it! I too started at a complete AHK newbie.
Regarding Win98: get rid of it as soon as you can, you will enjoy life more. Been there, done that...

Yes, I've been dabbling a bit lately and it looks very useful.  AHK strikes me as not so much an application as an application development kit, though.  That means that the incorrigbly computer-shy might be more rapidly productive with something like SuperKeys for hotstrings and/or one of the targeted hotkey applications, perhaps Hotkeyz that was zridling's previous best choice before AHK, simply because they're complete applications and behave as such.  Having said that, you don't have to do very much with AHK to get basic productivity out of it.

As for Win98...  I'm not going to toss my home laptop into the skip as long as it still works adequately, although I think I wish I'd pushed the boat out a bit more at the time....

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General Software Discussion / Re: Finally, a robust keyboard shortcut app!
« Last post by rjbull on May 24, 2006, 05:06 AM »
Babis,

With autohotkey you don’t have to remember any key combinations.
You can launch anything simply by typing a word of your choice
return

But this is just the same problem - you have to remember lots of shorthand triggers.  OK, they're arguably easier than arcane key combinations, but while it's easy to remember the ones you use all the time, it's harder to remember the rarer ones.  That's why I'd still like a point-and-shoot GUI for both hotkeys and hotstrings.

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General Software Discussion / Re: Finally, a robust keyboard shortcut app!
« Last post by rjbull on May 24, 2006, 05:02 AM »
Edvard,

I don't agree that PowerPro is hard, just complex. You must learn what it CAN do, then HOW to do it, then figure out WHAT you WANT it to do.

You mean, its an application suited to people with advanced degrees in mathematics, who make their living as system analysts, and play chess as a hobby...  i.e., relentlessly logical...   :o

And while you may have stated the ideal case, in practice the cart is before the horse.  My scenario is more likely to be: "Oh.  I have to do this job 50 times (and maybe never again), and they want it this afternoon.  How can I speed that up now?"

This takes Patience and Perseverance which also takes Time. These things, taken as a group, are lacking for most people.

You got that right   :(

After that, PowerPro is (almost) everything I need. I use Autohotkey because I quite dislike the PowerPro scripting, and I can compile into .exe's and impress my boss!

I'm surprised that you dislike its scripting, which I wouldn't have thought all that different in difficulty.  After all, looking at AHK's help file is overwhelming for a newbie.

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General Software Discussion / Re: Finally, a robust keyboard shortcut app!
« Last post by rjbull on May 23, 2006, 10:16 AM »
I'm using less than 500 hotkeys only

By the time you've added in all the hotkeys programs have defined for themselves, it would be interesting to know how many the average user does know...

but you could create GUIs with AutoHotkey to use for those actions you only perform rarely.

I would like a similar "instant search" FARR-like search GUI for AHK hotstrings too, cf. the threads on jgpaiva's hotstring importer and Harrie's review of Instant Text.  But I don't have that level of skill, and I also use Win98 systems some of the time, where AHK hotstrings don't work anyway.

Or you could create a simple .txt file for your hotkeys and let AutoHotkey pop that up with another hotkey - so you'll only have to remember that 'master' hotkey

HoeKey, which I've been playing with in only the last couple of days, encourages you to do something very like that.  You can scroll through the window, but I thought it was a pity that once you did, you couldn't instantly point-and-shoot from it.



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FWIW, here's another that claims to import The Bat!;  ForKeeps

The only other thing you can do (I think) is to re-install The Bat! as non-encrypted?

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General Software Discussion / Re: Finally, a robust keyboard shortcut app!
« Last post by rjbull on May 23, 2006, 05:58 AM »
For compeatists, here are a couple I found recently;

JDN Hotkeys
The author made a post on the NetEZ forum
here
with a few more details, like the fact that it has issues on Win98.  It does some unusual things, like using one hotkey to modify another.  In fact he recommends the simple, small and fast Hoekey, with AutoHotKey as a deluxe package, and his own JDN Hotkeys for experienced users.

Hoekey is incredibly small - the download is only 25K!


Like others, I find it hard to remember 1001 hotkey combinations.  Do any of these types of applications, preferably free or dirt cheap, allow you to pop up a menu and point and shoot?  I believe you can do so with Macro Express, but that's a big heavy application.  You can do something like it with PowerPro, which offers buttons with tooltips rather than a menu as such, but PowerPro is just too hard for most people.
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General Software Discussion / Re: Finally, a robust keyboard shortcut app!
« Last post by rjbull on May 23, 2006, 05:49 AM »
reko100,

I think you mean, you want a way of listing what hotkeys are already in use now, and which ones are still free, so you can avoid ones already in use?

I suppose the best we can hope for is a way of listing the keys Windows itself uses.  So many programs have so many hotkeys set already, like The Bat! for example.
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Post New Requests Here / Re: predictive text for ms word
« Last post by rjbull on May 23, 2006, 05:31 AM »
reko100,

Take a look at these two Donation Coder threads, which deal with text expanders, completers and the like:

jgpaiva's abbreviations importer
https://www.donation...dex.php?topic=2598.0
link to jgpaiva's AHK tools https://www.donation...dex.php?topic=3461.0

Harrie's review of Instant Text, and following posts
https://www.donation...dex.php?topic=2631.0

Productivity Talk - Harrie's own forum site for (primarily) Medical Transcriptionists
http://www.productivitytalk.com/

Jon Knowles site on typing productivity
http://home.earthlin...net/~agjon/index.htm

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- dtSearch.  Google them.  They build an index to quickly search everything.

dtSearch has a long pedigree.  It started as a DOS application.  It's got rather expensive now, at least last time I looked.  I thought it was more an "after the fact" data retriever, rather than an organizing tool.

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General Software Discussion / Re: TaskPilot for task management?
« Last post by rjbull on May 21, 2006, 11:31 AM »
Yes, quite relevant. I've seen ITSD a few places online, but haven't paid it much attention. I'm going to give it a try and see what it can do.

I just took another look at zridling's review.  ITSD takes an awful lot of memory.

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Finished Programs / Re: DONE: abbreviations importer
« Last post by rjbull on May 19, 2006, 04:39 AM »
I run a board heavily leaning toward MTs (but not totally, anyone, including you all, are so welcome there). 

In fact, I'm trying to get more non-MTs there, but it's difficult.  I made

I've briefly looked at your board, and may look further.  I expect most people could benefit to some extent from a text expander, but such things only come into their own when you have to type from a more or less large lexicon of technical jargon.  MTs are an extreme case of this; your jargon is both voluminous and polysyllabic.

Then, there are MTs still in the student phase, who generally have not used one of the major expanders yet.  I'm interested in offering as much as I can there and discovering as many tools for our trade as possible,

Good (and public spirited) idea; not everyone can afford top software, especially when just starting out.

I think we are way too tunnel-visioned in general.

It always seem so much easier to narrow one's mind than broaden it   :(

  Since starting the board, I have found through others AHK and ActiveWords, and I now consider these two programs indispensable. 

Yet you use Instant Text, the leading program.  So are you using AHK for its more general features?

Another good reason for this script is that a lot of MTs work on company computers where they can't download anything, and you can run AHK on a USB stick.

This is becoming a serious problem.  Companies are big on paranoid security policies but don't want to know about their destructive effects on productivity.  I wish more Windows programs could be run without having to be installed.

  And some people won't spend the money or don't have it for certain expanders.

I can relate to that  ;)

  I'd seen where there were good scripts already made in AHK, but none that were exactly geared towards what we need, that including the tooltips.

It's easy to make basic hotstrings, but I wouldn't have thought to extend them to various forms of capitalisation, etc.  Good for jgpaiva :)

If you found ABCZ you found a jewel.  It so cuts down on remembering, it's not even funny.

I wish I'd discovered it before.  I've just rejigged the shorthand expansion file I use with (DOS) PC-Write using more ABCCZ ideas, with some input from the TextStat program you mentioned before to see which words were most "worth" abbreviating.  The PC-Write manual points out that the letter "q" is uncommon, so many of my old shorthands ended in "q".  I've now realised that this is in many cases redundant, but some of the shorthands are now so deeply embedded I don't think I can change them  :-[  Of course, the basic ABCZ teaching doesn't always work.  E.g. "quality" would become "quay" which is a legitimate word in itself.  Although it's one I'd be highly unlikely to actually use at work, I didn't want to confuse shortcuts with normal words.  But in many cases the system works excellently, especially as you can have a family of related abbreviations;

incd:included
ince:include
incg:including
incs:includes

I used to struggle with a less organised system.

still don't think I could get along very well without a visual expander, though.  Not when you have thousands of entries.  But many MTs do!

I've used Lil Red Notebook before.  Mostly for medical terms to reference when I needed to.

I would prefer a visual expander, though my problem is nothing like as acute as yours. And I thought asking for that would be a bit more than a coding snack  :)  But with LRN, I don't think they make it clear whether it types both shorthand and expansion, or whether it's more like a glorified "grep" that just helps you look things up, a bit like my acronym file.  What really made me perk up and take notice was LRN's ability to type things into DOS programs.  AHK can do that under Windows 2000   :Thmbsup:  but SuperKeys, for example, can't.

  I do think there are better programs, though.  I suggest trying mouser's PopUp Wisdom for remembering your rarer shorts.  Tell me what you think! 

I hadn't thought of that, as it's been "advertised" as more of a fun program.  Thanks for the idea  :)

PS:  By the way, on my home page I've had a link to DC for awhile now.  I love this place!

And how incomparably better than usenet  :)

Golly, what a lot of smileys.  I'll have to be more abstemious...



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Living Room / Re: Paris by night (panorama)
« Last post by rjbull on May 18, 2006, 05:37 AM »
I haven't got any stereo glasses
-Carol Haynes (May 18, 2006, 04:55 AM)

I could never make the "bare-eyed" techniques work either.  You really need the glasses....

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Finished Programs / Re: DONE: abbreviations importer
« Last post by rjbull on May 18, 2006, 05:24 AM »
Harrie,

As you're an Instant Text user, can I ask why the interest in AHK?  I can see one obvious one - the difference in cost!

Following your links, I found Jon Knowles Web site on typing productivity, with an onward link to Li'l Red Notebook  I haven't tried it, but on the face of it, it looks like a combination of AHK hotstrings with a GUI you can toggle to search (both "walk down the list" "instant search" and standard Ctrl-F) for shorthand you've forgotten.  That looks a very good idea to me; shorthands I use frequently I remember, but rarer ones are easy to forget.  If I implement some of the "ABCZ" ideas for constructing shorthands in an organised manner, that may reduce somewhat, but, how useful is it in practice to have a searchable interface?

@jgpaiva: please, do you have a Web site / permanent DC link for your software that you can put in your profile, so we can know where to download the latest and greatest?


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General Software Discussion / Re: TaskPilot for task management?
« Last post by rjbull on May 18, 2006, 04:53 AM »
Zaine Ridling's review of ITSD Organizer may be relevant?

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Living Room / Re: Paris by night (panorama)
« Last post by rjbull on May 18, 2006, 04:33 AM »
a full 360 degrees - shame it isn't formated so that you can just rotate seamlessly.
-Carol Haynes (May 18, 2006, 03:37 AM)

Won't help here I suppose, but you might take a look at what's is probably the world's narrowest-niche software at Muttyan's Home Page  Amongst other things, he offers programs for making rotating 360 degree panoramas in stereo.

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Living Room / Re: Madness is contagious!
« Last post by rjbull on May 15, 2006, 04:23 AM »
Only if you think I'm bored and tweedy ...
-Carol Haynes (May 14, 2006, 03:10 PM)

Well, we can't tell a lot from your avatar...

Just two things - life is too short to be bored

The process of earning a living rarely agrees with you   >:(

he does look a bit rough and tumblish (wishful thinking ;))

:D
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Living Room / Re: Madness is contagious!
« Last post by rjbull on May 14, 2006, 01:45 PM »
My only criticism of the whole concert was I have never seen anyone look so uncomfortable in evening dress as Gergiev. He has the sort of appearance that means he looks really quite fanciable (in a Lady Chatterly sort of way) ... but he looks peculiar in a penguin suit!
-Carol Haynes (May 14, 2006, 10:46 AM)

You mean, he looks the kind of rough trade that appeals to bored tweedy ladies?

See http://images-eu.ama...NIF6.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg for the best piccy of him ...

Hmmm...  has he been around long enough to be the original of Mr. Worf?  ;)

That by the way is by a long way the best recording of the Rite of Spring available today

I've heard it, but don't know it well.  I love Petrushka and the Firebird.

By the way, congratulations to Mouser for founding the best British bulletin board in America  :D

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Living Room / Re: Hilarious spoof ...
« Last post by rjbull on May 14, 2006, 10:32 AM »
how sick is it that i like the music/singing in the spoof better than the real version?

There are precedents.  Stella Gibbon wrote a book called Cold Comfort Farm some time early in the 20th century.  It was a spoof of a certain kind of country house novel prevalent at the time.  The spoof has remained - people still occasionally read Cold Comort Farm and remember its catch-phrase, "something nasty in the woodshed," but the novels it was originally sending up have all disappeared without trace.

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Living Room / Re: Madness is contagious!
« Last post by rjbull on May 14, 2006, 10:27 AM »
Sorry can't listen to Barber without weeping ...
-Carol Haynes (May 13, 2006, 05:48 PM)

He wrote things other than the Adagio for Strings  :)

Just got back from a concert conducted by Valery Gergiev. Shostakovitch Symphony number 8.

Was that the one they played on Radio 3 last Friday?

I've heard before the idea that Mozart composed "like he was taking dictation from God," and that Schubert was the only composer who came close to that facility and fecundity of invention (this was before Bach got so popular).  In a literary parallel, H.Rider Haggard apparently wrote by pacing up and down, dictating to an amanuensis - and never needed to change anything.  By contrast, there's a story of Oscar Wilde at a houseparty.  They all met at lunch.  "What have you been doing this morning, Mr. Wilde?"  "I put in a comma."  They met again that evening at dinner.  "And what did you do this afternoon, Mr. Wilde?"  "I took it out again."  Hard work on the road to perfection...


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Best Dialog Extender / Re: FileBox Extender updated to 1.91.01
« Last post by rjbull on May 11, 2006, 07:49 AM »
Allen,

Sorry to mislead you - I was actually looking for Greg Kochaniak's free calculator MATH and had forgotten the FileBox Extender connection until I saw the site.  The update doesn't seem to be dated, which is a pity as it would make it clearer how old it is and therefore how worth mentioning.

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