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Haha!
We have the next move (sorta) from Snowden's side in this game!
"EFF Victory Results in Release of Secret Court Opinion Finding NSA Surveillance Unconstitutional
Update: In response to EFF's FOIA lawsuit, the government has released the 2011 FISA court opinion ruling some NSA surveillance unconstitutional."
https://www.eff.org/...ing-nsa-surveillance
So then the "U Word" is among the highest in the land. It's all blah-blah, then appeal-blah, then another-appeal-blah, and then when the U-Word shows up the Judiciary goes all sudo-don't-do-that.
Stating the obvious, one reason this is big news, (and a nice move - is this a Discovered Knight Fork?), is that not only is
A: the action (some of it) U-Word, but
B: the court actually had a shred of decency, but then the exec branch's secrecy tried to hide it.
C. your choice here
See, they've been wiggling around (hiding the opinion), but it's *reeeeaaaallly* hard to *overturn* the U-Word. (It DOES happen, but far from easily, and never this quick.)
So now we're at the dangerous part, of "So, the U-Word is here. But Nat-Sec blah blah, we'll ignore the ruling".
Comments? Countermoves from Gov?-TaoPhoenix (August 22, 2013, 02:09 AM)
I guess if you don't hear from them in a reasonable amount of time after an interview you're left to assume they aren't going to make you an offer.-40hz (August 21, 2013, 02:57 PM)
That is flat out rude - and becoming increasingly common.-40hz (August 21, 2013, 02:57 PM)
Then I saw the last line of text on the page.ALPass requires Internet Explorer. It does not currently support Firefox, Opera, or other alternative web browsers.
Really? Even now?
Is there an emoticon for “disappointed”?-oblivion (August 21, 2013, 10:26 AM)
I lobbied for FF support. (This is in the days before Chrome.) (thanks Ren!)-wraith808 (August 21, 2013, 03:10 PM)
(It's gonna annoy the crap out of someone! 
)With Glenn Greenwald’s partner being harassed by security forces at Heathrow, the last warning bell for totalitarianism has chimed. For upwards of a decade, activists of the Pirate Party have been warning that laws that are marketed to the public as being “against terror” or “against child pornography” are so vague and so full of exceptions to due process that they don’t make sense if they’re not actually targeted at creating a totalitarian society. With family members of reporters taken away for detention and harassment, the last warning bell has gone off – there will not be another bell before they come for me and you.
So don't let it store passwords at all, and do something with lastpass / roboform / password gorilla / keepass / whatever instead. Or, hell, run your browser from a Truecrypt container.
There's always another way to skin any given cat.-oblivion (August 21, 2013, 01:50 AM)
Stuff like that. You think you've private lives
Think nothing of the kind.
There is no true escape
I'm watching all the time.-Judas Priest - Electric Eye
Whatever the country or governing political party, this form of protectionism would rather seem to indicate the actions of a puppet government, to me.-IainB (August 21, 2013, 03:08 AM)
+1 - Me too. I just wonder when/if our corporate masters will decide to come out of the shadows.-Stoic Joker (August 21, 2013, 06:43 AM)
The very word "secrecy" is repugnant in a free and open society; and we are as a people inherently and historically opposed to secret societies, to secret oaths and to secret proceedings. We decided long ago that the dangers of excessive and unwarranted concealment of pertinent facts far outweighed the dangers which are cited to justify it.
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For we are opposed around the world by a monolithic and ruthless conspiracy that relies primarily on covert means for expanding its sphere of influence--on infiltration instead of invasion, on subversion instead of elections, on intimidation instead of free choice, on guerrillas by night instead of armies by day. It is a system which has conscripted vast human and material resources into the building of a tightly knit, highly efficient machine that combines military, diplomatic, intelligence, economic, scientific and political operations.
Its preparations are concealed, not published. Its mistakes are buried, not headlined. Its dissenters are silenced, not praised. No expenditure is questioned, no rumor is printed, no secret is revealed. It conducts the Cold War, in short, with a war-time discipline no democracy would ever hope or wish to match.
This conjunction of an immense military establishment and a large arms industry is new in the American experience. The total influence — economic, political, even spiritual — is felt in every city, every statehouse, every office of the federal government. We recognize the imperative need for this development. Yet we must not fail to comprehend its grave implications. Our toil, resources and livelihood are all involved; so is the very structure of our society. In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists, and will persist.
We must never let the weight of this combination endanger our liberties or democratic processes. We should take nothing for granted. Only an alert and knowledgeable citizenry can compel the proper meshing of the huge industrial and military machinery of defense with our peaceful methods and goals so that security and liberty may prosper together.
Unfortunately, you’ve grown up hearing voices that incessantly warn of government as nothing more than some separate, sinister entity that’s at the root of all our problems; some of these same voices also doing their best to gum up the works. They’ll warn that tyranny is always lurking just around the corner. You should reject these voices.-Tyrannical asshat
Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable-JFK
Granting a small group of individuals more rights than the rest of us on the basis of their profession is blatantly unconstitutional and frankly offensive.-Vurbal (August 21, 2013, 01:07 AM)
So it's like a sick game show "which service will be next", and one by one we'll be sad, and minus a bunch of stuff, and ... then?-TaoPhoenix (August 20, 2013, 10:22 PM)
PM 'told Heywood to warn Guardian'-wraith808 (August 20, 2013, 11:47 PM)
Well, you'd be a hero if you beat your PM, but that's another story. She went on: "We have a very clear divide in this country, and I think that's absolutely right, between the operational independence of the police and the policy work of politicians. I as Home Secretary do not tell the police who they should or should not stop at ports or who they should or should not arrest. I think it's absolutely right that that is the case, that the police decide who they should stop or not and whether they should arrest somebody or not. That's their operational independence. I'm pleased that we live in a country where there is that separation."
Great idea Mouser, I suggest you patent it ASAP.-Edvard (August 20, 2013, 08:32 PM)
This is probably the most disturbing bit of news to date.
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This is indeed a day of national mourning.-40hz (August 20, 2013, 11:58 AM)
i suppose the really low tech solution would be.. plain white round stickers you could write on.
when you think about it.. kind of obvious solution that would work pretty well isn't it..
sigh, sometimes you have to step back and ask yourself, are we just inventing gadgets for the sake of creating high-tech inferior solutions that are different just because we want something new and fancy, when the low-tech solution is clearly better?-mouser (August 20, 2013, 01:51 PM)
a Dylan song maybe?
but again not sure off-hand of a followup line...-tomos (August 20, 2013, 09:54 AM)
Best Slayer song = Dissident Aggressor
Best Judas Priest song = Diamonds & Rust
<fill in this line>-Renegade (August 20, 2013, 07:50 AM)
there's probably a few options here, and to be honest I'm not sure of the (possible) track for the follow-up line:
Best Joan Baez song = The Night they Drove Old Dixie Down
<fill in this line>-tomos (August 20, 2013, 08:10 AM)
