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Living Room / Re: Kickstarter Highlight: Onion Omega
« Last post by Deozaan on November 12, 2015, 06:41 PM »
From the Kickstarter campaign:

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Yeah, I saw that. But "Atheros AR9331 400Mhz" didn't tell me what architecture the CPU was. I suppose I could/should have googled the specific make/model to find out, but for some reason I didn't think of that at the time. :D
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General Software Discussion / Re: BitTorrent Sync 2.0 Sucks!
« Last post by Deozaan on November 12, 2015, 05:34 PM »
Well, carp!

I finally got around to reinstalling my apps from backups after upgrading my tablet to Android M (during which I had some complications, and I ended up wiping everything, hence needing to reinstall apps from backups), but now BT Sync 1.4 just crashes and won't run.

I still refuse to update BTSync to 2.x.

Anyone have any recommendations for alternatives? @superboyac: Should I attempt once again to get Syncthing working?
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Living Room / Re: Kickstarter Highlight: Onion Omega
« Last post by Deozaan on November 12, 2015, 04:52 PM »
Thanks!
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Announce Your Software/Service/Product / Re: Eden - A Survival RPG on mobile
« Last post by Deozaan on November 12, 2015, 03:22 PM »
It looks really nice!

Personally I think it's not the kind of game I'd enjoy for long, but I wish you the best of luck in development!
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Living Room / Re: Kickstarter Highlight: Onion Omega
« Last post by Deozaan on November 12, 2015, 03:16 PM »
The power switch broke off first thing- and I'm not the only one.

Ouch! :(

I tried looking for specs for the Onion Omega, but they're surprisingly scant. The promo pages say it can run "full Linux" which makes me think it's x86 or x86_64. But small devices like this are typically ARM. Can anyone here provide clarification on the architecture of this thing?
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General Software Discussion / Re: Windows 10 Announced
« Last post by Deozaan on November 12, 2015, 03:12 PM »
Is there by now an easy way to upgrade from a computer with OEM win8 pro to a clean install (not upgrade on top of win8) of win10 pro? I.e. extract a key from my win8, put a win10 iso on a USB, format the harddrive and then clean install win10. Has anyone here done it? Did you run into any issues?

Once this new update is out, you can perform a clean install and activate with a key from Win7 or Win8, rather than having to do an in-place upgrade over the old OS.

EDIT: Oops. I had written this a couple hours ago but forgot to push post, then got distracted doing other things. In the meantime there have been two other replies to you. :-[
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Living Room / Re: Does anyone here use Bitcoins?
« Last post by Deozaan on November 10, 2015, 09:46 PM »
I was fascinated by the concept of the proof-of-work that miners have to do, so I started working on a little test of something of my own:

Spoiler
I wrote something similar to what I understand the Bitcoin mining requirements to be. This is not mining real bitcoins. It's just a simulation of mining Deocoins!

Started mining with a goal average time of 5 seconds (5000ms) to find each hash:

Hash 1 found: 01D2FB457E9A3CB81B582DD05FEC877B174D6C4A8C9D31C4717A3ACA351D5CC6
Time taken to find hash: 00:00:00.0037843 (avg: 3ms)
Number of hashes attempted to find this one: 39
Increasing difficulty.

Hash 2 found: 00F1713C3A00FCE197B141F47069520962FBF251F33049CE5091A486B3617E90
Time taken to find hash: 00:00:00.0019995 (avg: 2ms)
Number of hashes attempted to find this one: 67
Increasing difficulty.

Hash 3 found: 0007A6C794B9D7D9006777DC9F66EDDC8E48D688CB28B5A87C1D3F8FCC4C0661
Time taken to find hash: 00:00:00.1313240 (avg: 45ms)
Number of hashes attempted to find this one: 3935
Increasing difficulty.

Hash 4 found: 00009BFFF5E31A1915CB3CFF8BDDDBA61E744173810299FE51B0C98F46EFE2EE
Time taken to find hash: 00:00:00.7161587 (avg: 212ms)
Number of hashes attempted to find this one: 19862
Increasing difficulty.

Hash 5 found: 000009E43D1C4C1862F8A3B314C07353E8438444C288E8AB951A7D3D9F50F809
Time taken to find hash: 00:00:28.9602109 (avg: 5962ms)
Number of hashes attempted to find this one: 815994
Decreasing difficulty.

Hash 6 found: 0000ADB894B73D247FEB7DF8714362ECEFC280AD619CFBFC01CF00668009C8C6
Time taken to find hash: 00:00:01.0944133 (avg: 5150ms)
Number of hashes attempted to find this one: 31145
Decreasing difficulty.

Hash 7 found: 0002CE61B2BA3AFD0E917426DBAEA5C528F64B06BABDD662EAF9D7831DADABFC
Time taken to find hash: 00:00:00.1992439 (avg: 4443ms)
Number of hashes attempted to find this one: 5706
Increasing difficulty.

Hash 8 found: 0000BC18227D8857A7095DAD44AAE2142FAD4F3EED1E5E23F5EF93B595B7ACCB
Time taken to find hash: 00:00:02.4294819 (avg: 4191ms)
Number of hashes attempted to find this one: 68096
Increasing difficulty.

Hash 9 found: 000000450668CB46307CFAACE4CEFA5B5AEF34C4C359C49CB7EA2DD7331EDFFF
Time taken to find hash: 00:00:00.5069369 (avg: 3782ms)
Number of hashes attempted to find this one: 14226
Increasing difficulty.

It has been working on hash #10 for quite a long time now, so far with no luck.

EDIT: It finally found hash #10. The reason it took so long was because 1) it was difficult to find and 2) while I was waiting for it to find it, I did other things with my computer, and the application was set to pause if it didn't have focus. When I finally realized my mistake, I changed it so it wouldn't pause when not focused and it finally found the result a few minutes later:

Hash 10 found: 00000015BF4EC882AAF49DF77830131A0CD1BF6C65BD94ED9C8D273B398A3DF8
Time taken to find hash: 01:42:02.7429996 (avg: 615678ms)
Number of hashes attempted to find this one: 19,381,467
Decreasing difficulty

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Living Room / Re: Does anyone here use Bitcoins?
« Last post by Deozaan on November 10, 2015, 05:14 PM »
Anyone else that can sell me ~40$ in bitcoins?

I'm still trying to find other ways to get some bitcoins at a fair exchange rate.

I just signed up for Coinbase and told them all my darkest secrets to verify my identity, only to find out that if I try to purchase some bitcoins right now, the soonest the BTC will be available to me will be next Tuesday. :(

EDIT: I added a credit card and now I can buy $25 of BTC instantly, once per week. Still not quite good enough. :(
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Living Room / Re: Does anyone here use Bitcoins?
« Last post by Deozaan on November 10, 2015, 04:46 PM »
or does one usually own multiple addresses?

Yes. A wallet contains many addresses. However, once you start getting up into the thousands of addresses, it's a good idea to create a new wallet to "clean out" your old one.

How do you do this? Just send all your bitcoins to a new wallet? Wouldn't that essentially link all those addresses to one address (the new one) all at once?
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Living Room / Re: Does anyone here use Bitcoins?
« Last post by Deozaan on November 10, 2015, 04:38 PM »
selling them for anywhere between $40-$80 over the current value
Crazy...

Anyone else that can sell me ~40$ in bitcoins?

To be fair, he probably listed them at the price they were a couple of days ago. Right now BTC is steadily dropping in value compared to the USD. It's gone down about $10 since I started looking for ways to buy BTC locally (about an hour).

I'm still trying to find other ways to get some bitcoins at a fair exchange rate.
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Living Room / Re: Does anyone here use Bitcoins?
« Last post by Deozaan on November 10, 2015, 03:54 PM »
@Deozaan

I could wait 'til saturday.

Looking at Localbitcoin, there's only one user in my area willing to sell bitcoins for cash, and the exchange rate isn't favorable. He's selling them for anywhere between $40-$80 over the current value (as per Blockchain.info).

It's one of the downsides to living out in the boonies... Adoption of the latest tech-related stuff tends to lag behind.
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Living Room / Re: Does anyone here use Bitcoins?
« Last post by Deozaan on November 10, 2015, 03:41 PM »
I'm confused about transaction fees. I've read that they're completely optional, but I can't figure out how to make a transaction without including transaction fees. Maybe that's because the client I'm using (Bitcoin Core) doesn't allow that? It has an option I've checked to "send as zero-fee transaction if possible" but when I click send the confirmation screen shows the fee added in there automatically anyway.

The fees are fairly minimal. But when I'm only sending a few cents (in USD) anyway to get a feel for how it works, it kinda sucks losing even a penny of it in fees. Feels kind of like handing a dollar bill to a friend, then having him hand it back and it only being worth 98 cents.

That's because Bitcoin is transparent, where dollars, euro, and other fiat currencies are opaque.

[...]

Anyways... the small transaction fee in bitcoin transactions is extremely tiny. The only difference is that you can see it and that nothing is hidden from you.

I understand that the transaction fee is very small and how great that is compared to our current systems (PayPal, credit cards, etc.). But my question still remains:

I've read/heard that they're completely optional, but I can't figure out how to make a transaction without including transaction fees. Are transaction fees optional or aren't they?
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Living Room / Re: Does anyone here use Bitcoins?
« Last post by Deozaan on November 10, 2015, 03:39 PM »
Thanks Renegade.

Unfortunately Localbitcoins doesn't provide any options to buy bitcoins via paypal here in my area...

Anyone interested in a personal exchange? I'd pay 44$ via paypal to get back 40$ in bitcoins (10% fee).

How soon do you need it? I'd be willing to go through the effort of buying some bitcoins, but I'm not sure how soon I could get them. I'm checking out Localbitcoins.com right now.
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Living Room / Re: Does anyone here use Bitcoins?
« Last post by Deozaan on November 10, 2015, 05:39 AM »
As always customs seem to very, and the wallet default charge I keep running across is ~$0.05 USD or 0.0001 BTC

My primary/only experience with this is from the Bitcoin Core program, which says the minimum fee is 0.01 mBTC/kB, and the recommended fee is 0.052mBTC/kB, which is still roughly half of what you are coming across.

Your 0.1 mBTC fee is roughly ten times as high as the 0.0113 mBTC fee I paid when sending a test payment. :-\

Perhaps because the Bitcoin Core program is a full-node client (meaning it stores and transmits the entire blockchain, therefore improving the P2P network) the transaction fee is lower as a result of providing a bit of a service to the Bitcoin platform? I have no idea if that's correct, but it's the only reason I can think of for the discrepancy in the fees.



By the way, does anyone know what the "kB" means in the fee? What does x BTC/kB mean? A fee of X bitcoins per kilobyte of data transmitted in the transaction?
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Living Room / Re: Interesting "stuff"
« Last post by Deozaan on November 10, 2015, 02:22 AM »
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goTenna  Text & GPS on your phone, even without service.

Anyone here interested in getting these?



They seem like they could be very useful. I'm not enough of an outdoorsman to justify the price. Very cool though.
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Living Room / Re: Does anyone here use Bitcoins?
« Last post by Deozaan on November 10, 2015, 01:43 AM »
Somebody presumably has to be getting to customary 0.0001 satos trans fee...why not the folks processing the transactions.

The fee does go to the folks processing the transactions: The miners!

I'm not quite sure that's entirely the case, as there's a fixed number of BTC to mine. So (yes many years in the future), after all the coin has been mined there would be no point in continuing to mine ... So the currency would become worthless because no one would be processing the transactions. Unless there is something else going on in the way of verification ... Got a map of this one Renegade??

As I understand it, the miner gets the new coin reward which, as you said, is very gradually moving to zero. But the miner also gets the fees from all the transactions included in the block he creates when he successfully mines a new block. This provides incentive for miners to continue mining even when the new coin reward is zero. Right now, since the fee is so small, it's probably an almost negligible incentive for mining, especially when compared to the new coin reward. But someday (again, probably many years/decades in the future) there will be so many daily/hourly transactions happening that the miners will be making much more money from fees than from new coin rewards. The more ubiquitous bitcoin becomes, the more fees will be paid out to miners for their services of verifying all transactions for the rest of us.

Bitcoin absolutely depends on miners always mining, forever! If everybody stopped mining, Bitcoin would die because no new transactions would be verified. Miners are the people who create new blocks for the blockchain, which verifies all transactions inside said blocks.

I recommend reading the original paper on Bitcoin by Satoshi Nakamoto.It will give a brief overview of the overall system and how it works. It's only 9 pages (one of which is cited sources/references) and relatively easy to understand in plain English. I was concerned that it would be above my head since I know little of cryptography and mathematics, but I followed it fairly easily, for the most part.

See especially the second paragraph (found on page 4 of the PDF) in the quote below:

By convention, the first transaction in a block is a special transaction that starts a new coin owned by the creator of the block [the miner]. This adds an incentive for nodes to support the network, and provides a way to initially distribute coins into circulation, since there is no central authority to issue them. The steady addition of a constant of amount of new coins is analogous to gold miners expending resources to add gold to circulation. In our case, it is CPU time and electricity that is expended.

The incentive can also be funded with transaction fees. If the output value of a transaction is less than its input value, the difference is a transaction fee that is added to the incentive value of the block containing the transaction. Once a predetermined number of coins have entered circulation, the incentive can transition entirely to transaction fees and be completely inflation free.

The incentive may help encourage nodes to stay honest. If a greedy attacker is able to assemble more CPU power than all the honest nodes, he would have to choose between using it to defraud people by stealing back his payments, or using it to generate new coins. He ought to find it more profitable to play by the rules, such rules that favour him with more new coins than everyone else combined, than to undermine the system and the validity of his own wealth.

Blockchain.info has some stats for the past 24 hours showing that (as of this edit) 4,025 BTC were mined and ~29.5 BTC in transaction fees were earned by miners. But that's only for ~160,000 transactions. Add a couple zeroes to the end of that number and you can see how it won't be hard for earnings from transaction fees to greatly outweigh new coins being generated, especially since the reward is scheduled to reduce by half next year.
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Living Room / Re: Does anyone here use Bitcoins?
« Last post by Deozaan on November 09, 2015, 04:44 PM »
Somebody presumably has to be getting to customary 0.0001 satos trans fee...why not the folks processing the transactions.

The fee does go to the folks processing the transactions: The miners!


And a bit of a niggle: A satoshi is the smallest unit of bitcoin, which is 0.00000001 bitcoins. The customary transaction fee is ~0.00001 bitcoins.
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Living Room / Re: Does anyone here use Bitcoins?
« Last post by Deozaan on November 09, 2015, 11:52 AM »
I'm confused about transaction fees. I've read that they're completely optional, but I can't figure out how to make a transaction without including transaction fees. Maybe that's because the client I'm using (Bitcoin Core) doesn't allow that? It has an option I've checked to "send as zero-fee transaction if possible" but when I click send the confirmation screen shows the fee added in there automatically anyway.

The fees are fairly minimal. But when I'm only sending a few cents (in USD) anyway to get a feel for how it works, it kinda sucks losing even a penny of it in fees. Feels kind of like handing a dollar bill to a friend, then having him hand it back and it only being worth 98 cents.
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Living Room / Re: Does anyone here use Bitcoins?
« Last post by Deozaan on November 09, 2015, 11:35 AM »
@Deozzan - Check your wallet. I just sent you about $10 in bitcoins. By the time you see this message, it will be in your wallet.

Wow, thanks!

I only asked that you PM me so that the transaction would be just between you and me.

Bitcoin is "pseudoanonymous". That means that it's not 100% anonymous, but close. As long as nobody knows our addresses, they can't track us.

[...]

Here's an address for me where you can send some just to test:

1F1Eiruf9yzCH49jvjxtajVuzV6mBP3tef

If you privately send me some bitcoins, and then I turn around and send some of it back to one of your public addresses, won't that link your public address to the private addresses, just by following the chain back a bit?

I guess there's a link there, but there's no proof that a payment to that public address came from me unless I publicize the address I'm paying from. And there's no proof who the owners of the other addresses belong to. Right?

But I wonder do the "Full Node" wallets get paid anything - like from the transaction fees - for their troubles (space usage etc.)?

No. They don't get paid anything. It would be nice if they did, even if it was only a satoshi (0.00000001 bitcoins) now and then. But I think that's all down to the trust model. Really the only person who can be trusted to have done what they say they have done is a miner who successfully finds the hash. And that is why whichever miner finds the hash gets the reward. They provide proof (the hash) that they've done the work, and in the work, they include the transaction that gives themselves their reward.

Or at least that's my understanding of it. I could be wrong about some of the details, but I'm pretty sure about the answer to your question: No, nodes do not get paid for their service.
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General Software Discussion / Re: Share photos with a password link
« Last post by Deozaan on November 09, 2015, 12:47 AM »
Google Drive lets you grant shared access to files/folders to specific accounts or to anyone with a specific link.
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Living Room / Re: Does anyone here use Bitcoins?
« Last post by Deozaan on November 09, 2015, 12:03 AM »
Also, the initial sync was brutal. Over 50GB of blockchain data. If I had known then what I know now, I'd have chosen a different, "lightweight" bitcoin wallet software.
is that 50GB stored on your machine :tellme:

Yes. I downloaded a client which locally downloads/stores the full blockchain because I was told it was more secure (for verifying transactions), and I guess it also makes me act as another node on the P2P Bitcoin network so it helps improve the network.

This wallet is a full node that validates and relays transactions on the Bitcoin network. This means no trust in a third party is required when verifying payments. Full nodes provide the highest level of security and are essential to protecting the network. However, they require more space (over 20GB), bandwidth, and a longer initial synchronization time

I knew getting into it from the info quoted above that it was going to be a large download, but it didn't set my expectations properly because it said the blockchain is "over 20GB." While that is a true statement, it made me think that it might be as large as 25-30GB. The full blockchain is currently about 53.5GB. Not only that, but the download was relatively slow. I'm currently on a 200Mbps download plan but it took me about 24 hours to download it all. (Not quite that long, since I put my computer to sleep overnight--twice!--during the sync process.)

But if you use a "lightweight" wallet application, it doesn't store the full blockchain, just the parts that are relevant to your transactions (or something along those lines) and only uses a relatively few MB of local storage IIUC. For example, the app I downloaded to my Android device only uses about 8MB of internal storage, and most of that is the APK itself!

Honestly, I still don't feel I understand very well how it works, but I'm starting to get a feel for some of it.
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Living Room / Re: Does anyone here use Bitcoins?
« Last post by Deozaan on November 08, 2015, 11:16 PM »
PM me your address.

Done.

Also, the initial sync was brutal. Over 50GB of blockchain data. If I had known then what I know now, I'd have chosen a different, "lightweight" bitcoin wallet software.

You live and you learn. 8)
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Living Room / Re: Interesting "stuff"
« Last post by Deozaan on November 06, 2015, 03:49 PM »
looks like something out of the 80's/90's :D

"I love the Rufus Cuff. It's so bad."

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Living Room / Re: Does anyone here use Bitcoins?
« Last post by Deozaan on November 06, 2015, 02:46 AM »
Well, now I have a bitcoin wallet. Too bad I don't have anything to do with it. :)
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Living Room / Re: Does anyone here use Bitcoins?
« Last post by Deozaan on November 06, 2015, 01:02 AM »
Some random thoughts: I watched the videos and heard people mention their computer blowing up and losing 1,000s of bitcoins. Are they lost and gone forever? How does that affect BTC overall since there's a maximum of 21 million of them, or whatever the limit is. What if everybody lost their bitcoin wallet? We'd all have a 21 million bitcoin blockchain but nobody would have access to the currency?  :huh:

Yes, you can have a wallet without mining.  And you can get into BTC from the exchanges or from other people.  My problem is more not knowing where to jump in.

https://bitcoin.org/en/getting-started

http://bitcoinsimpli...-to-set-up-a-wallet/

Thanks for these links. Time for some reading. :)
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