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Mini-Reviews by Members / Re: Zoom Player - the all-in-one media player!
« Last post by JavaJones on July 21, 2006, 01:41 PM »
Another welcome from me! It's great to see more software authors who make a point of listening to and keeping in touch with their users (or even potential users). It sounds like some very cool things are coming for Zoom in the future and I'll be sure to give it some time soon and, at the least, continue to keep an eye on it.

- Oshyan
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Living Room / Re: Quck change artists — WTF?
« Last post by JavaJones on July 21, 2006, 01:34 PM »
Good lord, that's amazing. I must know how! lol

- Oshyan
2378
Living Room / Re: Humans recreate Space Invaders in a lecture hall (video)
« Last post by JavaJones on July 21, 2006, 01:08 PM »
Yeah, that's what I figured. Bummer though. When that happens to people they ought to stick the vids up on Google Videos or YouTube or something.

- Oshyan
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Image Manager Shootout / Re: keywords and image management thoughts
« Last post by JavaJones on July 21, 2006, 12:06 PM »
Carol, I wouldn't be surprised if the Mac version of Lightroom actually *is* zippy. I've found Apple's ports of their Mac programs to Windows to always be a bit short of their Mac counterparts. This explains why Mac users love Quicktime so much when on the PC it's a slow, bloated piece of carp. ;)

- Oshyan
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General Review Discussion / Re: Vote for what Review to do Next
« Last post by JavaJones on July 21, 2006, 11:50 AM »
I have been working with a whole lot of different PDF tools lately in my job. I've been interested in doing a review of some type, probably starting with readers first (I know, a less useful topic for many) and then maybe moving on to simple PDF creators (print-based or direct Save As/Export) and then maybe ultimately real PDF creators that allow direct edits of existing documents. There's no telling when any of this might happen though so if someone gets to it before me I wouldn't mind. :D

- Oshyan
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Mini-Reviews by Members / Re: Zoom Player - the all-in-one media player!
« Last post by JavaJones on July 20, 2006, 10:18 PM »
I'd like to say more on this subject but I need to play with Zoom and Light Alloy more. Still digging KMPlayer (using it right now) and I wanted to mention I discovered it *does* have Winamp's library in it, although it's an older version and I couldn't get their newer HTML-based version (which has a lot more online content) to work. To get the Media Library you right-click go to Options->Winamp Window->Media Library or press Alt-L.

jgpaiva, I completely agree about BS's ability in playing divx-type AVI's, especially with subtitles. I haven't played much with subtitles in KM, but it does seem to have decent support.

I'd love to hear some more comparative opinions from people about KMPlayer vs. their own favorite player. It may even help KM become a better program, which I would be happy about. :)

- Oshyan
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Found Deals and Discounts / Re: Light Alloy limited-time discount
« Last post by JavaJones on July 20, 2006, 08:57 PM »
I have installed the trial. I will play with it a bit but I am not sure what makes it with $20 with several very good free players around. Bad attitude, right? :D It does have a shiny UI. :P Can the playlist be detached?

- Oshyan
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Living Room / Re: Humans recreate Space Invaders in a lecture hall (video)
« Last post by JavaJones on July 20, 2006, 08:48 PM »
Damn, are they both down now? :(

- Oshyan
2384
Mini-Reviews by Members / Re: Zoom Player - the all-in-one media player!
« Last post by JavaJones on July 18, 2006, 02:00 AM »
Nice to see a mini-review of this from a satisfied user. Myself I have never really "clicked" with Zoom though I know a lot of people rave about it and in theory it should be right up my alley. I love lots of customization, etc. It's just that I want customization *abilty*, not *requirement*, and Zoom seemed to require more customization than I wanted to deal in the past, even for basic things. Once it was working it didn't seem all that much better than my other solutions anyway. But if you're coming from Winamp for video I'm not surprised it is a huge positive change.

For my part I use a mix of players and have for many years, though it has evolved over time.

First, to make it clear what I am looking for in a video and audio player, the following:
I want a player, just a player. I am not looking for an audio player that also does capturing, I don't need CD ripping or Mp3 encoding, etc. I much prefer to use separate apps for that kind of stuff. I use both audio and video players directly on my computer through a 21" monitor so I am not focusing on media center usage (at the moment). I want direct access to as much online media as possible. I want the ability to browse, search and catalog my collections of videos and audio. I want extensive tagging and other organizational functionality. I want cool visualisations for audio. And I want all this wrapped up in a memory-efficient, fast application with a simple, accessible user interface that exposes a lot of functionality. I play mostly AVI's and MP3's, much less of any other media type including DVD's, although I do like having DVD support.

So here's what I use now:

Winamp - Winamp has been my default audio player since the 1.x days. I have always loved it (except for WA3 :P) and have yet to find any app that makes me really interested in moving away from it. It is a bit bulkier and slower than it used to be, which is frustrating, but it has added a lot of features which explains that in large part. The most important thing about it for me is that it's really audio focused. It is pretty much the best, most versatile, most supported audio player out there, so you can play virtually any audio format (with plugins), reskin it however you want (not my thing but a lot of people love that), use advanced audio filters to make things sound better, and (one of my favorites) work with another Nullsoft product Shoutcast to create your own streaming music station, amongst many other things. Let's not forget the wonderful visualization plugins as well. MilkDrop alone (bundled with Winamp) can keep you happily occupied for hours! But video? I have never really used it for video and never found its video support to be that fantastic. Surprisingly good from the get-go for a formerly strictly audio player, I will say that. But for me Winamp, with its large-ish interface and the general preference for keeping the Media Library open, is just not well suited to being a video player. It is really not its core competency, simple as that.

Which leads me to...

BSPlayer - For a long time I used BSPlayer for videos, which I found after lots and lots of searching and testing. A couple years ago it was really top notch, about the best video-focused player around. I particularly liked its aspect ratio and general video manipulation support, decent playlist functionality (which MPC lacks), as well as its speed. It was fairly compatible with most videos I wanted to run, most of them being AVI or MKV format, although it was never the best with WMV or Quicktime/RealMedia (through the "alternative" packages). Lately BS has become, well, BS. :D It is now bundled with spyware unless you buy it and it seems to have lost a lot of its general quality and ability to play files well over the past year or two. I seldom use BS anymore as a result.

But it was the Quicktime/RealMedia/WMV issue that first got me looking at...

Media Player Classic - I first started playing with MPC before the Quicktime/Real Alternative packages came out and it seemed like a nice, clean player, a bit simplistic for my tastes, but pretty versatile nonetheless. I used it at first mostly for playing MPG's and WMV's, at which it was superior to BSPlayer. Not only was it more reliable with both file types but I tended to keep playlists in BS and didn't want them erased so it was convenient as a fast-starting player for smaller vids, which the WMV and MPG movies tend to be (as opposed to AVI's - mine tend to be longer). Eventually Quicktime and Real Alternative came out and I had even more reason to use MPC. BSPlayer sometimes worked with both filters but MPC was much better. I also discovered MPC's ability to play other odd formats like Bink around this time and grew to love its combination of simplicity and power. It also began more rapid renewed development around this time and became much more robust and full of options.

Still, it left something to be desired in a few areas such as playlists, user interface/skinning, etc. So I kept finding my way back to BS, until...

The KMPlayer (not to be confused with the KDE "KMPlayer") - I found KMPlayer randomly through Betanews, which has become pretty much my best source for finding cool and useful new applications. KMPlayer is kind of a weird one. It's natively Korean I think, or at least the dev(s) seems to be, but it's made available in English with no apparent translation problems. KM doesn't seem to be particularly well known, possibly due in part to the language issue, I'm not sure. In any case it's really an interesting app. It's basically like a souped-up video-focused Winamp, and I mean down to the default skin, right-click menus, everything. I have no idea if it's violating copyright or anything but frankly it's nice to have a familiar UI, and it seems to tack on enough additional features to make it well worth using over Winamp. Most of the extra stuff is video focused, from what I've seen - basic stuff like built-in video codecs, customizable video rendering, software-based video filters such as deinterlace or color adjustment, subtitle support, etc. But the basic reason I like it is just that it seems really well setup and laid out from the beginning. Not too much customization is *needed*, yet there is a lot of power to do customization if desired. The default skin has a ton of features unobtrusively at your fingertips, like switching audio streams for example, which is actually a small but dedicated combination indicator and button on the main video window. It also has very wide video support, both native (like MPC's built-in decoders) as well as use of installed codecs. It even has compatibility with Winamp 2x plugins, which is interesting. And even with all of that it is really quite fast and has excellent seeking response. Here's a full feature list, which IMO is pretty impressive: http://www.kmplayer..../showthread.php?t=63 (it seems it has media library support, hmm!) Really it seems like the only true "all in one" player I've ever found that actually *works* and isn't unstable as a result of all the functionality and features.

I've been using KM now for about 4 months and so far I really like it. It's generally more stable and capable than any other video player I have tested recently and I use it for almost all video playing now. But I still use Winamp for audio playing, for a few reasons. First, KM doesn't seem to have a native "media library" like Winamp. Now I don't use the Winamp media library to anywhere near its fullest potential and frankly I don't think it's implemented as well as it could be, but still there is something about it that I like and that keeps me using it. Another thing is the simple fact that I've gotten used to having different audio and video players and I kind of like it that way. I like to be able to maintain separate current playlists of stuff I've been listening to or watching and not have them wiped out whenever I want to play audio vs. video or whatever. I could of course keep saving and loading playlists but that seems like a hassle I don't want or need (automatic multiple playlists would be nice). Still, I'm considering trying to see how it works to do everything in KM, except...

Winamp's final draw for me, and one which will probably never be matched anywhere else due to proprietary content, is the online service library. Winamp quite simply has the best library of *free* online and streaming content I have seen in any audio player. The Online Services section lists - ignoring the stupid entries - Winamp Music (free music audio and video), Shoutcast Radio and TV (free, 5000+ audio and 200+ video stations, extremely varied content with lots of non-corporate options), AOL Music Now (not free but access to 2 millions songs), AOL Radio with XM (free, one of my favorites, lots of very well mixed, high quality content, no commercials), AOL Videos (free, lots of random stuff), In2TV (free, some ok shows, lots of older/less popular stuff), Singing Fish (free, big searchable library of audio/video content). There is also the podcast support where you can manually add podcast feeds. To the best of my knowledge KM doesn't have any of this stuff and can't support it, however there may be a way to load the media library as a plugin for KM, which I haven't tested yet (the feature list above claims this works - must test!).

So KM is my current choice for getting closest to my wish/feature list above. The only thing it seems to really lack is good media library support with extensive cataloging options like rating, tagging, etc. and that may be partially solved by hooking up with Winamp's library. I'll try to report back after I've tested that.

Here's a short list of the other players I've tried in the search that led to the above options:
QMP - Quintessential Media Player (lots of potential but not "there" yet IMO)
Zoom Player (haven't had enough time with it but it's not totally free so I'm less interested in it)
VLC - Video LAN Client (still has a super klunky, unpleasant UI and poor access to features while playing, but it's gotten better lately - would rather use some other player that accesses the same/similar playback libraries since that is all that really makes VLC great)
Foobar2000 (simple is good, but this takes it a bit too far - not my style - I think maybe I just didn't "get" it though)
MediaMonkey (I like the great media cataloging functionality, better than Winamp, but it would take a lot of work to setup initially so I've put it off - crashed on me more than I would have liked so I didn't really get to know it well - also didn't like that the UI can't get smaller in an easily customizable way)
Plus a few others that have gotten less of my time and probably aren't worth mentioning

Now I haven't given a lot of time to more recent versions of Zoom, let alone the new preview version discussed above, so I wouldn't call my comments a comparison. I'd love to check out Zoom more in the future and perhaps I will, but usually that only happens when I'm not satisfied with my current player. We'll see if KMPlayer holds up over the long term :D

Screenshot capturing in just about any video player depends mostly on the video rendering mode - Overlay, VRM9, etc. If you're having trouble try switching the rendering method. It can also (apparently) depend on your graphics card.

- Oshyan
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General Software Discussion / Re: Windows XP Myths
« Last post by JavaJones on July 17, 2006, 11:50 PM »
Not a bad little article. I learned a bit, anyway. Definitely some issues, as pointed out by others, but worth a read nonetheless.

- Oshyan
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Living Room / Re: Design your own bug creatures in flash
« Last post by JavaJones on July 17, 2006, 09:52 PM »
A nice little bit of fun. Now if only you could make them eat each other. :D

Mouser, are you familiar with Spore? http://video.google..../videosearch?q=spore

- Oshyan
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Living Room / Re: Amazing collaborative drawing site.
« Last post by JavaJones on July 17, 2006, 09:37 PM »
Yeah, almost makes me want to hook my wacom up and see if I can do anything. I never was too good with vector/stroke drawing though...

- Oshyan
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Memtest86+ is more currently updated: http://www.memtest.org/ A memory test is definitely recommended.

- Oshyan
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Site/Forum Features / Re: New biography mod added to the forum
« Last post by JavaJones on July 17, 2006, 08:52 PM »
A couple days pass... Java reminds Mouser... :D

- Oshyan
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Living Room / Amazing collaborative drawing site.
« Last post by JavaJones on July 15, 2006, 04:01 AM »
Check this out, some of the work here is really amazing:

Screenshot - 7_15_2006 , 1_58_00 AM.jpg

http://best.drawball.com/

It records the total history of the workspace, which is really wonderful to watch. And if you go to the main site http://www.drawball.com/ then you can draw on the shared canvast yourself and your own process is recorded. Very cool concept and quite cleverly implemented.

- Oshyan
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Site/Forum Features / Re: New biography mod added to the forum
« Last post by JavaJones on July 14, 2006, 02:45 AM »
I'd love that, thanks! Any chance the mod will be updated for 1.1?

- Oshyan
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Living Room / Re: The lost Mac ads found
« Last post by JavaJones on July 14, 2006, 02:44 AM »
I rather enjoyed the claymation monkey myself. :D

- Oshyan
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General Software Discussion / Re: Nvu: crossplatform wysiwyg webpage editor
« Last post by JavaJones on July 14, 2006, 02:15 AM »
Probably not, lol. But it seems like that's overrated considering there are still often big rendering differences between browsers.

- Oshyan
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Site/Forum Features / Re: New biography mod added to the forum
« Last post by JavaJones on July 14, 2006, 02:10 AM »
Hmm, I found his cats and his models, but nothing about that mod. It's exactly what I've been looking for on another site though. Gimme, gimme! :D

- Oshyan
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General Software Discussion / Re: Nvu: crossplatform wysiwyg webpage editor
« Last post by JavaJones on July 14, 2006, 01:49 AM »
Nvu used to be a little funky a few years ago but it's really quite nice now. Highly recommended for the beginning and intermediate non-notepad web designer.

- Oshyan
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Woah, very intriguing indeed!

- Oshyan
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Image Manager Shootout / Re: keywords and image management thoughts
« Last post by JavaJones on July 13, 2006, 08:51 PM »
Oho! I like "free of charge"! :D PixVue may be right up my alley.

- Oshyan
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Image Manager Shootout / Re: keywords and image management thoughts
« Last post by JavaJones on July 13, 2006, 01:40 AM »
Am I alone in feeling like most of this is stuff that should be provided at the OS level? What frustrates me about using some application to embed this info is that unless all other apps are aware of it, it is really only useful to that one app. Yes IPTC, etc. are a standard now, and many programs do support it, but each has different methods for doing so. If I want to use one app to organize, one to edit, and one to view (customized slide shows), if they do not all interpret keywords, etc. the same then what good is the standard really? Very frustrating. This is the kind of thing I was hoping for with Vista. Instead most of what we get is transparent window borders. ;)

Portfolio sounds pretty awesome. A pity it's so damn expensive! I'm wondering how they can really justify such expense. I mean ok yes it could be vital to many people's workflow, but that is really a price for a professional. Actually what's odd is it is a price that could be a "steal" for a real pro, making good money off their assets and needing real professional management. On the other hand for a hobbyist it is a very high price. So it is sort of in that middle area, neither cheap enough for the hobbyist nor really as expensive as the functionality would justify for a real pro. It would be nice to see a cut down version or something (not too cut down) for the amateur.

- Oshyan
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Damn Paul Graham and his lengthy, interesting essays. He is responsible for much of my time "wasting" online. :D And once again here I think he has a lot of really good stuff to say. Now I just need to convince my boss. ;) No, actually my job is really pretty damn cool as far as 9-5 jobs are concerned. I couldn't ask for much more freedom and still get my job ("IT guy") done - it's one of those things where I do generally need to be in the office at least some amount of every day. But I'll definitely be keeping this stuff in mind for the unspecified future when I have my own business. Makes me chuckle about those people I've seen spending $1000's to put in a "professional home office" though. :D

- Oshyan
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Sweeeet. God this thing looks cool. I've always said there are few things in life truly worth the money you spend on them. For me DSL, or really any form of broadband, has always been one of them. This thing looks like one to add to the list. In fact it's hard to believe anything this good and cool would really be sold commercially, much less for this cheap. But again we'll see. :D

- Oshyan
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