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On a related note, how's the pagerank now?

Forum still has no page rank.  :(
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Living Room / Re: Which cartoon character do you most relate to (and why)?
« Last post by app103 on March 13, 2011, 03:58 AM »
Daria Morgendorffer

http://www.youtube.c...=daria+morgendorffer

embedding is disabled on everything good I can find, but here's 2 in case you want the best examples:

http://www.youtube.c.../watch?v=aI4YaLJKFw4

http://www.youtube.c.../watch?v=gqJTMl1F9Wg

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Living Room / Re: Which cartoon character do you most relate to (and why)?
« Last post by app103 on March 13, 2011, 03:15 AM »
Ben, from Dr.Katz:
http://www.youtube.c...dr.katz+ben&aq=f

Sounds like he's planning a fun razor here.  ;D

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Well, if/when you want to set something up on Blogger, shoot me a PM and I'll guide you through initial setup basics and adding me as an admin so I can do some of the setup work for you, like I did for my dad. Once everything is done and you are ready for posting, you can remove me if you want (or leave me there, just in case you run into issues you need my help with).
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General Software Discussion / Re: original win98 games
« Last post by app103 on March 12, 2011, 05:33 PM »
If these are the games you are referring to, they did not come with Win98, they were not available on Windows Update, and they were not offered for free.

These were a payware pack that came on floppies.
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Should mine be
Drat, I wish I hadn't thought of that
-cranioscopical (March 12, 2011, 12:12 PM)

Maybe it should be

I'll have another rotten turkey sandwich, please.

Screenshot - 3_12_2011 , 1_14_34 PM.png
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L. Ron Mouser welcomes you to our community - but first we will need you to spread the word about our DonationCoderology "philoshophy" through the use of "surveys"   :P

Sorry, I simply could not resist. I'm sure it'd be NOTHING like that.

Here, have some Kool-Aid  ;)

We already have an alien...bird.
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It would be easy to believe this had Google not abandoned Wave, Notebook, messed around with IGoogle, switched things around with Google pages and messed things up with Buzz. Google lately, while still mostly an ad-supported service, is also heading towards more cloud centric models. The more these cloud services mature, the less incentive Google has towards supporting Blogger and with Facebook pages being the rage, I just don't believe Google has much incentive to keep Blogger for long.

They have more of an incentive to put more into keeping Blogger going than all the other crap you mentioned, combined. Blogger makes them money...lots of money. The things you mentioned were not profitable at all...not for Google or the users.

A facebook fan page is not a substitute for a website or blog. And you really can't make money on facebook with banner advertising unless you develop your own facebook app that people actually want to use on a daily basis (think games)

Docs can be made public, whatever their next Page/Wave creator would probably have more interactive ad based elements, finally the biggest key would be Google's shift to the mobile market. Once they feel they hit the motherload of contextual mobile ad marketing, I bet they are only going to keep Blogger as to not pissed off current Blogger users and little to no attempt would be made to improve the service until eventually Blogger becomes the next Geocities.

None of this is a substitute for having a blog or website either. Blogging will continue to exist and provide Google with a nice income for many years to come. Mobile ads are only good for mobile things that don't work well on the desktop. I don't see the regular internet being replaced by a bunch of tiny pages with minimal scripting made for handheld devices. The regular internet will exist for many years to come and there is still plenty of money to be made in advertising here. Plus, even if what you say does happen and we all throw away our desktop computers and buy a tiny screen mobile device, Blogger can easily be made suitable for those handheld devices with a simple template change...no need to throw the whole thing away. It can still make them (and their users) a ton of money for many years to come.

I haven't tried Entrecard though, only seen it in your blog, but with the fall of services like MyBlogLog - I often wonder whether there's much of a blog community left as it seems outside of professional bloggers, most of the crowd has moved on to Facebook and the result (from my ignorant eyes) is that blogging communities nowadays look more like LinkedIn communities only instead of jobs, it's mostly asking for comments. Hell, it seems Life Journal has more of an active diverse community than individual blogs nowadays.

The problem with MyBlogLog was that it was bought by Yahoo, and they kill everything they touch. They didn't develop the site like they should have, expected the features it already had to somehow make them money, and it didn't, so they are shutting it down, like they do with everything else they ruin. If the original developers had sold it to anybody else, it would have had a greater chance of survival and improvement.

I won't argue with you about the fact that there are plenty of small time bloggers begging for visitors, comments, ad clicks, etc. but you will find that just about everywhere, including facebook.

It's mostly Blogger's date centric look though that's the deal breaker for me. I really wanted this to feel more like a static page and ones that aren't "connected" to the dates on the sidebar. (although most WP.com themes show the date anyway)

Then don't use the standard archive widget. Use a link list and labels widgets instead. I did explain that all the widgets on the right sidebar of my example were optional. There are plenty more options than what you saw there.

My ideal though is a free theme that makes a blog look more like a squeeze page but seeing as I don't even know how to make those e-book cover looking images, I probably wouldn't be able to pull off a decent looking squeeze page anyway. Then again, my ideal is probably a professional looking theme that merges both newsletter/blogs/forums and Ning-like start pages for free.

I have never seen a squeeze page that didn't look like a bad ebay ad, and I immediately close the tab when I land on one of them. If you want any sort of credibility, stay away from that method of presenting information, especially if you are not selling anything or if you want anyone with more than 2 brain cells to take what you are selling seriously.

As far as advertising though, this isn't the blog I wanted to focus that aspect on. Although, at the same time, I'm still trying to figure out Project Wonderful and I've mostly ignored Adsense altogether. I also don't have an Amazon account so I didn't really get to experiment with how Amazon Associates work. Eventually though, I do intend to implement the full capabilities of your blogs especially as I move to just linking to pdfs and rtfs instead of blogging but I really don't know if that day will come. I mean I wanted to really learn CSS first and then gamble on a domain/Wordpress/CMS/Squeeze Page/List Building/Aweber or whatever Internet Marketers use to make the interface seem the most friendliest to visitors combined with Ruby on Rails and just figure out web design/premium blog frameworks and all that but at the same time, I both don't know the walkthrough for that.

It's the text that brings in people from search engines and you won't get that with links to pdfs and rtf files. You would be far better off publishing the content of those files in a blog post than going through the bother of making those files, finding somewhere to upload them, then dropping a link somewhere and expecting magic to happen. (unless you meant that you plan on selling them)

I don't know why you think you have to learn CSS and Ruby to have a blog. Most bloggers I know don't know either one of them. Most bloggers I know can barely copy & paste.

It's one of the big reasons why I wanted to just make this final blog. After this, hopefully I can provide a free blog that would match or rival your blog design and hopefully when that happens I also have knowledge of how to program and host some applications and how to share better content that's free but on a quality scale that rivals paid sites/paid e-books and be my self editor without frustrating readers... but those are all so far away and like I said in that other topic, it's going to take beyond everything I have to even scratch the surface for those knowledge and skills and turning that blog into art and when that happens - if that happens.

We had a long talk about this before. If you really like my blog that much, then follow my example.

Don't make things any more complicated than they have to be. Start with the basics...

Set it up anywhere you like that will give you the freedom to grow and profit from your work if you choose to do that in the future (wordpress.com will not do that), choose a good simple template with lots of possibilities (hell, I could even set it up for you with my template on Blogger...the tweaks I did are something to behold in the design control panel)

Hook it up to your friendfeed, twitter, and facebook accounts, so whenever you make a post your followers there will know about it.

Then you just concentrate on writing, whenever the whim strikes. There is no reason why you ever have to plan on abandoning it before you even start it.

As your blog grows, add other things to it, a little at a time, as you can handle it. I'll always be here to help you.  :)
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I wouldn't worry about Blogger going anywhere any time soon, or as long as there is such thing as Adsense. I think one of the reasons why they bought Blogger was to make it easier for people to set up sites with their own ads...it's also why they allow javascript widgets.

Wordpress.com's entire business model is partly based on selling premium services and mostly based on forcing certain types of hidden advertising on all blogs (see here for an example) and they do not share the profits of that advertising with the users, nor do they allow users to add any type of advertising in which they could profit from. The only people allowed to make money from a wordpress.com blog is wordpress.com itself.

Google's Blogger does NOT force anyone to have any type of advertising on their blogs, nor do they restrict what type you can have. They do not forbid users from using ad networks that compete with their own. Built in, they have support for both their own Adsense as well as Amazon, but any javascript code from any ad network is as easy as adding a new widget with the code, anywhere on the blog that you want. Google makes a tremendous amount of money from Adsense used by users on their blogging platform and would be fools to ever consider shutting it down. And users are making money from the advertising on their blogs, which is much less exploitative than what wordpress.com is doing.

For me, there are only 2 options:

  • Blogger (if you want it all for free)
  • Self-hosted Wordpress (downloading it from wordpress.org and paying for your own hosting)

As far as community goes, there are plenty of options for that, including Entrecard, which encourages bloggers to visit and comment on other blogger's blogs. You can use Entrecard on Blogger, self-hosted Wordpress, or any other website, but not on wordpress.com. Depending on how active you are with visiting and/or commenting on other blogs in their network, you can get a ton of traffic and regular readers from there, fast. They also pay you points for this, which can be used to get free advertising on other blogs, bringing in traffic from the readers of other blogs. And you can target this very well, visiting only other blogs in your niche, and advertising only on similar blogs. Since I write on a variety of topics, I usually visit blogs of the niche (or a related niche) of my last post.

I know of other communities for bloggers, too. So, if Entrecard does not appeal to you, let me know. I just happen to think that Entrecard is one of the easiest and most effective to use.
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My blog is Blogger, which is free and would be just as good of an option as using wordpress.com. (maybe better because they don't restrict the use of Javascript widgets like wordpress.com does and your posts end up indexed by Google within minutes)

I am using one of their older default templates (Minima Dark) that has been tweaked to hell & back. The original template has no images at all and comes in both a black and white version, which I have copies of both if you need them. They have newer templates now which are better looking but just as simple and even easier to use, especially if you don't want to fuss with tweaking the code.

Minima was Blogger's most popular template for many years, and for good reason...it offers so many possibilities and is a great place to start when designing your own templates.

This is what the original looked like before I started messing around with it (Everything you see in the right column are optional widgets): http://preview-minim...-black.blogspot.com/
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Way back in my early days at DC, I heard about this little fantasy in the IRC channel and it reminded me of a similar fantasy we had in my chat room, where we were going to pool our resources and buy my 4 unit apartment building (it was up for sale at the time). Then all the members of my little coding community that had no place to go would always find a welcome home they could go to if things got a little too tough for them. At the time a number of us were facing possible homelessness, and as much as I wanted to take them all in, there was no way I could fit everyone in my small apartment. Unfortunately (or maybe luckily) we couldn't come up with the $400,000 between the 60 of us.

It was this similar way of thinking though, that was one of the reasons why I stuck around. It felt like some place I missed very much. DC was like my own little community, all grown up... It felt like I had found home again.  :-*
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General Software Discussion / Re: What the hell is OpenCandy?
« Last post by app103 on March 09, 2011, 09:14 PM »
Also, frankly, trying to claim cookies are ok because they are easier to remove, while a reg entry is evil because it's harder to remove is not logical. You're arbitrarily drawing a line and saying 'easier than this is ok while harder than this is evil' and, conveniently, you've chosen to carefully position that line such that it defends your argument.

Windows comes with a firewall, which is turned on by default. If you shut it off and then as a result get exploited with a worm, do you have a right to blame anyone but yourself?

If your browser rejects 3rd party tracking cookies by default and you change the setting to accept them, do you have anyone to blame but yourself when you end up with 3rd party tracking cookies?

Do you believe that webmasters have a right to view their own server logs? There is plenty of statistical information there without the need to use a 3rd party service.

I feel a webmaster has a right to this data, he has the right to know how many visitors he has had in any given day, has the right to know what his most popular pages are, has a right to know what browsers his visitors are using (should he keep supporting IE5 if nobody is using it any more?), etc.

My blog is hosted by Google, which doesn't allow me to have access to any of that data. If I want it, I have to use a 3rd party service such as Google Analytics or Koego, which I do use. There aren't too many other options if I want access to this information without moving my blog.

As far as the ads go, I would love to get rid of them and perhaps some day I will, but not until I can figure out another way to pay for the renewal of my domain names every year. Currently the Google ads on all of my sites and blogs are funding keeping 2 sites going. I am not really making a profit at all. I am barely breaking even. The Project Wonderful ads are frequently empty on most of my sites or they are providing free advertising because nobody wants to bid higher than $0 for the traffic I have. (my personal blog would be the exception to that)

If people start clicking the paypal button on my sites and donating enough to cover my needs, all the ads are gone, except for some simple linked graphics to sites I provide free advertising to because I like them and want to support them. (I recently made a change on some of my sites to display an ad to Veign's OpenMenu for free, when nobody is bidding on my ad boxes)

It's really tough to earn anything on the more ethical ad network that I use on most of my sites (Project Wonderful) when download sites are leeching from you without sending you any traffic. I have a standard email response for download sites that do that, and their reaction is usually to just remove my software from their database than to work with me to come up with a compromise that can make us both happy. They want to exploit me and use my software and my bandwidth (actually DC's) to make money off their ads, while not sending me any traffic to keep my sites online with mine (even though DC hosts them for free, I still need to pay for domain names).

The exception is Software Informer, which recently reviewed one of my apps and emailed me about it, and then changed from direct linking of download files to linking to my site when I asked them to. First download site to ever do that. If all the download sites did that I could drop the Google ads from all my sites and replace them all with Project Wonderful, because I'd have the kind of traffic that advertisers would bid on.

I can see why a software developer might be tempted to use OC. I have battled with the thought myself but ultimately I can't bring myself to do it because I don't trust OC at all. They keep going back on their own words, keep breaking promises, keep being sneaky, and only change things for the better when they get caught...till they can come up with a new way to be sneaky.

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General Software Discussion / Re: What the hell is OpenCandy?
« Last post by app103 on March 09, 2011, 07:17 PM »
Good op-ed piece which includes an eye-opening list of major apps known to include OpenCandy. Link here.


That my blog.  :D

Well 40hz, I didn't see you warn me (us?) that the article you linked to was on a page
a) full of ads
b) which used at least 1 type of tracking mechanism
c) left behind files on my PC (numerous cookies, at least two of which were for tracking my browsing habits) even after I browsed away from the page.

That article, was every bit as evil as people seem to claim OC is.

Sorry you feel that way but it's trivial to either set your browser to not accept 3rd party cookies (which I think is the default setting in most browsers) or to clear your cookies (one click of a button)...or use an ad blocker...or use noscript. At least one of these can be easily handled by even less experienced users.

I don't recommend an inexperienced user to muck around in their registry trying to remove OC entries that serve as permanent tracking cookies, though.

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N.A.N.Y. 2011 / Re: NANY 2011 Release: JottiQ
« Last post by app103 on March 09, 2011, 01:40 AM »
Congrats! JottiQ just got written up on MakeUseOf.

Screenshot - 3_9_2011 , 2_38_07 AM.png

http://www.makeuseof...antivirus-apps-time/
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Site/Forum Features / Re: Shortcomings of DC and How to Improve
« Last post by app103 on March 07, 2011, 09:42 PM »
The fundraiser has been going on for only 7 days and we have not only met our goal, we have exceeded it.

Screenshot - 3_7_2011 , 10_36_47 PM.png

Those people would not have donated if they felt the same way as you. They obviously get some value from this site and appreciate it...the work we do and have already done.
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I'm not sure about this, but I'll just call to your attention that it'd be nice if this software repository could include not only full apps, but also coding snacks and even code samples. It should be easy to upload any of the three, but we can't really expect small coding snacks or code samples to include screenshots and stuff like that. Truth is even though skwire has been doing a great job posting coding snacks that look like full apps, for me it's a pain to create icons and screenshots and etc.


I'm sure there would be members more than willing to help you with some of that if you'd like. Not every member who would like to get involved is a coder. But they may have other skills and talents (art, writing, alpha/beta testing) that could add value to the work of the programmers. For example, many FSF projects benefit immensely from people who are willing write documentation, design interfaces, and do all those other tasks the average programmer has little interest in doing, but which still need to be done.

Why not assemble a small team to assist you when and as needed?

Just a thought.  :)

Now, see, that's another reason why I am perfect for this...

I do icons and stuff and am willing to work with any coding snacks author to assemble together everything needed for their directory entries....I am your small team.  ;)
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The only thing I'm personally not sure of is how to implement the feedback process and systems. Comments in e.g. WP are more amenable to reviews (e.g. "love this app!"), not so much to bug reporting or tracking. One thought was to have a full sub-forum or even just a single discussion thread for each app in the forum and just link from the app's directory entry. That gives us the full capability of the forums for formatting, discussion, etc. I don't think a formal bug tracker is needed for 90% of the software that will be listed. The rest can use our existing Redmine setup that devs have access to. The question remains though whether a simple "commenting" functionality is enough, or if we should continue to rely on the forums for at least the major part of the actual *discussion*.

My idea was to disable the built-in WP commenting system and direct any discussions on any app to the original forum threads. My desire was to keep all discussions where they are now and not split them between the forum and the directory.

Furthermore, by doing it this way, there would be no chance of spam in the directory, no useless "nice app" comments, and only one place for a developer to have to subscribe to keep up to date with new comments (the forum thread)

Providing the forum links in the PAD files, as well as links to the author's profile, and donate links, would be a good use of the extensions that Renegade spoke of here.

I did want to provide some way for users to give a little non-text feedback, without having to register on the forum. I figured I'd do that with a star rating system. It seems to be working out pretty good on my book directory. People that wouldn't consider taking the time to register or write a comment can just click a star and go about their lives.

With the additional exposure a directory may bring, some of the old "publish & forget" days may be coming to an end. Since most of them do this for free and in their spare time, it may get to be a "job" staying on top of the comments. Especially if a title gets popular due to wider exposure and generates a lot of feedback asking for responses from the author.

I had thought about this, and part of the reason for the directory is to give all the forgotten gems on the forum the exposure they deserve.

I think every author posted their apps knowing there was a chance it could become popular. But if responding to users becomes too much of a chore for any developer, all they would have to do is let us know and we can either take advantage of the fact that we have a whole community here and pitch in, helping with answering questions (like we have been doing for Skrommel's stuff, while he has been away building his new house), or make a note in the directory listing that the app is no longer supported (in extreme cases).
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I have talked this over with mouser in private and have decided to start by creating a real widget ready DC wordpress theme. Even if it doesn't get used for the software directory project, it will not go to waste, as it can be used for the member server WP blog project, and with a change of the banner graphic in it, to be used by any member that wants to use it for their own site on the member server.

After the theme is made, it would be trivial to snap together a software directory site with it and a few WP plugins. Then it's just a matter of chasing down all the devs and getting them to make PAD files for their projects....

But we can cross that bridge if/when we get to it.

If nothing else, we'll have a good WP theme, ready to use for whatever WP powered projects we may have in the future.
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@app103, now that's an idea. I could install any quick and simple browser I would never use (there are lots of them) and block it in ESET's firewall. Combined with BrowserTraySwitch, that would work, except ... remember, some installers actually hang if they don't get a signal back that the browser page has opened (that SHOULD be outlawed).
-Brian De Braganza (March 06, 2011, 12:52 AM)

Keep in mind that some apps open IE and not your default browser. You'd have to block IE from having internet access in your firewall and switch it to be your default browser while installing.

You can hardly block internet access, as a lot of installers often fetch parts to install from the internet, check for updates during install, or register your copy with the supplier based on account information entered during install.

This is why you block access to the internet in a browser rather than the installer itself. The installer will still be able to fetch what it needs...it just won't be able to cause a browser to fetch a page from a remote server.
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A program which temporarily took over default handling of webpages for the duration of the install would probably do the trick, and wouldn't be too hard to code.

You'll even find code samples on this MSDN - page  :)

I don't have the time just now, unfortunately.

No coding necessary if you use mouser's BrowserTraySwitch app and configure your firewall to block one of the browsers installed on your PC. Then it is just a matter of using mouser's app to switch the default to the blocked browser when you install something and then switch back when you are done.
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Living Room / Re: Are *you* Computer Literate?
« Last post by app103 on March 04, 2011, 07:48 PM »
9.   WORD PROCESSOR - you’ve seen what a food processor does to vegetables, right? This software package does the same to your carefully crafted text document.

I swear on my first PC the word processor was missing its lid. You have any idea what kind of mess that made?
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Living Room / Re: Are *you* Computer Literate?
« Last post by app103 on March 04, 2011, 07:40 PM »
You just summarized the first few years of my computing life in a single post.  ;D
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Living Room / Re: A Point About Grammar
« Last post by app103 on March 04, 2011, 07:33 PM »
I'd like to know why a non-countable noun can become a singular countable noun, but not a plural countable noun. I think it has to do with them being assumed contractions of the form "# units of noun" to "a noun" or "nouns".

You can have a can of beer.
You can have a bottle of beer.
You can have a glass of beer.

You can have a few cans of beer.
You can have a few bottles of beer.
You can have a few glasses of beer.

What you are actually having is cans, bottles, or glasses.....of beer.

Without specifying whether it is in a can, bottle or glass...

You can have a beer.
You can have a few beers.

What you are actually having is [units] of beer....aka beers.



e.g.

I'd like a water.

But not:

I'd like some waters.

How many different waters do you see in this photo?

Waters.jpg
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You could try mouser's BrowserTraySwitch. Pay careful attention to what he had to say at the bottom of the page.
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General Software Discussion / Re: Popping Downloads - iframe or meta refresh?
« Last post by app103 on March 04, 2011, 01:33 AM »
combined with the usual 'if it does not download in a moment, use this link' thing.

YES!  :up:
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