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Official Announcements / Re: wtfcody.com - Cody now has a home not just an address.
« Last post by nudone on February 22, 2007, 01:00 PM »
Cody, thanks you for your loooooooooong comment.

but...

as it is a 'question' you could have put it in the 'ask cody' section. i'll leave it where it is as it is the first official 'comment' to be made. i think cody will still answer it on the 'ask' page.
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Living Room / Re: cost of running a pc (in the UK)?
« Last post by nudone on February 22, 2007, 12:19 PM »
exactly, it does mean that the older pc and monitor aren't really off when they appear to be. they are obviously consuming power even though they have been 'turned off' on their front panel on/off switches. during the test they were plugged directly into the meter which then plugged into the mains electric socket. so, it's quite clear that some electrical products simply use power when they have no good reason to. i know some motherboards are set to boot from LAN so they would require power but why on earth does a monitor need to consume electric when it's meant to be completely OFF.

yes, a little trickle of power, i understand that. i tested other devices that were clearly in standby mode and yet they had almost zero power consumption - but this was enough to keep a time display going on their front panel. so there is absolutely no good reason for many products to consume energy in standby mode like the ones i found.

i appreciate that most equipment these days is never really OFF as today's on/off buttons aren't even like the ones we had 20 years ago.

iphigenie, that other device you mentioned for 60-80 quid looks a bit expensive. it's not really going to tell you anything more than the ones that cost around £20. so, you could save yourself nearly 60 quid and then just do the calculations yourself by finding a bit of info online. the wattage is the important thing and you can even get that from the label on the thing you are testing - i just wanted to know for sure what a pc would use as the consumption isn't going to be exactly what the psu states (not that such things really matter when you are talking about days or weeks or months average use).
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Older Newsletters / Re: --> Newsletter for February 22nd, 2007 - Codename "WTF Cody"
« Last post by nudone on February 22, 2007, 10:52 AM »
thanks for the big shout out for wtfcody.com

and many thanks to mouser for all his help with the project. it would have taken another year to set up without all his tinkering behind the scenes.
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Official Announcements / Re: wtfcody.com - Cody now has a home not just an address.
« Last post by nudone on February 22, 2007, 10:47 AM »
Excellent site nudone! Quite remarkable :Thmbsup:

thanks, Ruffnekk, 'quite remarkable' sounds very good to me.
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Living Room / Re: cost of running a pc (in the UK)?
« Last post by nudone on February 22, 2007, 10:46 AM »
right. i've finally managed to get hold of one of those meter things.

it's a "PM-230 electricity meter" like this http://www.taperecorder.co.uk/energy.htm

i've also calculated the cost of running a few devices. this is what i did if you wish to follow along...

used UKPower Cost Calculator http://www.ukpower.c...nning-costs-elec.asp

checked that 10 pence seemed like a reasonable cost for kWh by looking at a pdf file i can't find the link for now - it was for prices starting march 2007 so it looked okay to me.

i used the pm-230 meter gadget to give me the wattage readings for the devices i plugged into it. i didn't bother messing around putting the costs of electric into the device as it was too much for me to read the instructions.

after taking the wattage reading i put that directly into the UKPower cost calculator where it says "(Start from here if Wattage known)" and then i put the hours of use in to the month field. BUT i've ignored the monthly method and just calculated for 24 hours constant use a day, i.e. i put 24 into 'average hours used a month' field and accepted the final result as representing a single day - not a month. (i appreciate you could do a lot of this in your head as the calculations use multiples of 10 but i don't trust my mental arithmetic.)

here are my results:

all costs are for running devices for 24 hours at 10 pence per kWh

main pc setup = £0.54 (i.e. 54 pence to run for 24 hours)
adsl wifi router
24" LCD monitor
amd 4800 dual core cpu, 4 hard drives, geforce 7800, audigy x-fi, 600w psu, several fans
creative 5.1 speakers

without the monitor on at all = £0.40

interestingly, if the monitor and speakers were OFF but remained connected to the mains electric supply they consumed about 4 watts (this wastage gets even worse for other devices as you will see below).


old pc = £0.52
amd athlon 2200, 1 hard drive, non 3d graphics, standard sound card
19" CRT monitor

without monitor on at all = £0.29

and, oh dear, with both pc and monitor OFF but still plugged in at the wall they consumed 46 watts, i.e. £0.11 a day just for doing absolutely nothing at all!!! (the pc used 31 watts when 'OFF' and the monitor 14 watts when off. that's without any LEDs flashing or any indication of the devices being on at all.)


pentium 4 laptop = £0.17
with wifi and 128meg 3d graphics

pentium 2 laptop = £0.06
with wifi card

old apple ibook g4 = £0.08
plugged in but turned off = £0.02



here are a couple of other things

32" widescreen CRT TV = £0.31
on standby = £0.02

14" portable CRT TV = £0.12


i hope that gives you some idea of the price. you can, of course, divide my results by 24 to get the hourly cost.

i think the most interesting thing is the power consumed by devices that are 'OFF'. i know we've been told in the UK to not leave things on standby but i was surprised to see just how bad my old pc and CRT monitor are at wasting energy when they are meant to be off - this is not even standby.

also i think it interesting that my newer pc with 4 hard drives, big 3d card and stuff consumes little more energy than my old amd 2200 machine with hardly anything in it. i know my 600watt psu is meant to be very good at not wasting energy (i.e. heat waste or whatever you want to define it as) but i'm still surprised by the comparison. i guess if i started heavy cpu tasks the power consumption would go up - i should have tested it.
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Official Announcements / Re: wtfcody.com - Cody now has a home not just an address.
« Last post by nudone on February 22, 2007, 06:58 AM »
banner now renamed so i hope it works okay now.

sorry about that. i should have realised in the first place not to name files 'banner'.
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Official Announcements / Re: wtfcody.com - Cody now has a home not just an address.
« Last post by nudone on February 22, 2007, 05:38 AM »
so if i remove the word 'banner' from the image names it should work okay?
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Official Announcements / Re: wtfcody.com - Cody now has a home not just an address.
« Last post by nudone on February 22, 2007, 01:41 AM »
thanks all. i don't like the sound of the banner being blocked that f0dder mentions.

any idea why that is?

i'd like to correct it.
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Living Room / Re: The Machine Is US
« Last post by nudone on February 21, 2007, 05:26 PM »
very true. now i see.
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Official Announcements / Re: wtfcody.com - Cody now has a home not just an address.
« Last post by nudone on February 21, 2007, 05:22 PM »
thanks, dhuser and jgpaiva.

hopefully, it's just the start for Cody.
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Official Announcements / wtfcody.com - Cody now has a home not just an address.
« Last post by nudone on February 21, 2007, 03:31 PM »
it's been a long time coming but now it's official...

Cody now has his very own website

wtfcody.com


wtfcodygrab.jpg

to find out more you'll have to visit his new home.



never fear, Cody isn't going anywhere. he remains the full-time mascot at DonationCoder.com - his new home just allows him a bigger playground.

i hope you'll drop in on Cody and leave him a message or two. there will be prizes for things running on wtfcody.com - the first of which will be a special mug to the best 'ask cody' question that someone puts forth - a winner will be picked at the end of March (hopefully we'll keep the prizes coming each month).

that's it for the moment. i hope you enjoy what you find.

nudone
2162
General Software Discussion / Re: How much does Vista cost in your country?
« Last post by nudone on February 21, 2007, 03:16 PM »
amen.
2163
Living Room / Re: The Machine Is US
« Last post by nudone on February 21, 2007, 01:59 PM »
i was holding my tongue but i'm joining the non wow factor side. perhaps i need to look again.
2164
Living Room / Re: Do It All Computer - Fun Stop Motion Short
« Last post by nudone on February 21, 2007, 10:12 AM »
one day all computers will be this way.
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Living Room / Re: Apologese - I will be offline for a while ...
« Last post by nudone on February 21, 2007, 04:44 AM »
i think you perhaps need to just get the new machine up and running. if it runs without trouble then your problems are over. whatever happened - if the board now works, just be happy about that.

maybe something they've done to the board has cured it without them even realising. is that possible i don't know. i've certainly had electronic equipment that worked better if you hit it hard enough.

but, the money problem, i'd still kick up a fuss about them not contacting you - shout loud enough and you may eventually get through their thick skull that you aren't to be messed around and they'll give you what you want and more, just to be rid of you.
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Living Room / Re: Apologese - I will be offline for a while ...
« Last post by nudone on February 21, 2007, 04:27 AM »
Carol, have you tried the board now since it's return? could it be that they've sent you and new board but are pretending they haven't, i.e. so they give the impression there is nothing wrong with their products. i know, i know, paranoia.

(what did you think to my personal message i sent you?)

to destroy any equipment - isn't it common to plug a 12v car batter into it? that's what they do around my way. it's not something i've needed to do myself but i know someone that did it to a standalone dvd recorder (and probaly several other things).
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or use 'send to collection' if you have Directory Opus.
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Living Room / Re: Apologese - I will be offline for a while ...
« Last post by nudone on February 21, 2007, 01:46 AM »
i'd definitely stick my heels in about the point of not paying them because they didn't contact you first. if that's what they clearly state then they are def. at fault in my view.

does the motherboard actually work now? is it worth using it for a while to see how long it will run for - maybe it will work fine? or, if you can't trust it even if it appears to work - use it as a secondary backup machine or something.
2169
smoooth.
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Hi,
about #2:

ExifPro is a very nice viewer that does show subfolders.
http://www.exifpro.com/
And IviewMediaPro also does, and uses IPTC/XMP tags, all in a very nice GUI.

just giving EXIF Pro a test drive now. looks pretty good, but it seems to start crawling along when generating thumbnails.

i shall play with it for a while.

edit:
i've finished. it's not bad. i couldn't figure out how to display my tagged images (i must be asleep or something). But, as i use ACDSee i've just gone back to that.

for anyone interested it viewing multiple folders at the same time in ACDSee, well you've probably figured this already, but i've just discovered (rediscovered) you can use the shift key to select a range of folder to display in one go. just use shift when clicking of folders in the 'folders' panel. of course, you can also use the ctrl key in the usual manner. this seems like a pretty neat feature to me as you can select to simultaneously view folders from all over your drive.

now if only ACD Systems would improve the tagging features to the program.

edit (again):
hehe, you can also use the shift click method on the categories (tags) panel to select a range of tags all in one go.
2171
Living Room / Re: One of the better if not best examples of flash based navigation
« Last post by nudone on February 19, 2007, 01:27 AM »
i have to confess i've grown to hate flash navigation. the example above doesn't reverse that feeling.
2172
a little late now, but hopefully we can include it when the review is updated.
2173
ACDSee will do #2, but you will have to manually select the sub folders to view. Directory Opus will do #2 with a couple of clicks but it doesn't have tagging.

if you are prepared to work the way ACDSee wants you do work then it's tagging ability does the job - it's not as good as Pho Elements but once you get used to it you might find it acceptable.
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Living Room / Re: Apologese - I will be offline for a while ...
« Last post by nudone on February 17, 2007, 11:34 AM »
good to hear you are up and running with the machine.
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Living Room / Re: Apologese - I will be offline for a while ...
« Last post by nudone on February 16, 2007, 04:43 PM »
i understand what you mean, Carol.

it's just wishful thinking on my part.
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