- Some people with many posts here often express very strong opinions and get away with it, they ain't banned and not even reprimanded - so it seems they have the "right" to do so
-clean
Everyone has a right to their opinions, even strong ones. As long as you express yourself with respect and refrain from making personal attacks, nobody will think badly of you merely for having an opinion. If you do engage in personal attacks, we will let you know you are being out of line, but not by deleting your posts. Deleting and banning is strictly reserved for spammers.
- I jumped in here, some days ago, not because of virtual kvm's, all the less so because of a given offering, but bec of another thread which treated censorship on bits, and MANY people here had been very astonished by this - this was TOO MUCH for me to not speak out, so I related my censorship history with bits, tongue-in-cheek, but the real reason was my having been TOTALLY CENSORED HERE: Some time ago, under another avatar, I had dared to make some posts where I had related bad experiences with software, and instead of triggering other posts on these subjects - perhaps with better experiences than mine -, I got deleted my posts within minutes, AND got my "account" deleted, i.e. no further posting possible, without getting the slightest explanation, which would have perfectly been possible since I had given my real mail account (which is certainly not the case with this current account that will probably be deleted within minutes from my clicking on the "Post" button.
If your posts have been deleted and your account banned, then it is most likely you posted something that a moderator thought was spam. If the moderator was mistaken, the simple solution is to contact mouser and give him the info he asked for, and he will look into it.
- At the time, I had been totally surprised by that move, since I had thought to write about subjects of not too remote interest, and since I had not in any way been agressive, cynical or something in this order; on the other hand, this current "censorship at bits" thread here had made me laugh out loud, since people who do heavy censorship themselves shouldn't complain about them being censored elsewhere, right?
There is no censorship here. If there was, I would not be here. I would be among the first to leave. Mouser's views on censorship pretty much match my own, which is one of the reasons why I am very comfortable here. I know I can speak my mind freely and there is no risk of having my posts deleted. If it had been otherwise, I wouldn't have invested my time here, making the number of posts that I have over the years.
- You speak about "mouser" - who is "mouser", did he ever gave his name, or is anonymity important to him? I suppose he's the creator of this forum, right? Allow for another question: Why is he considered "God" or similar, here? Has he done exceptional things? Get me right, please, I'm not suggesting he didn't, I'm just in total absence of knowledge, so I'm asking.
Mouser is the site founder, it's first software author, site administrator, and the captain at the wheel of the community, steering it through fair weather and the storms. He has earned our trust, our respect, and our love... many times over.
- Then, is he funding this forum? It seems that for the financing of the servers, this forum relies upon public funding, by donations, so there might not be any (more) funding by "mouser", or is there? So here again, I haven't been successful in getting why "mouser" is considered "above it all", instead of this forum being sort of a democratic one.
He started this site with his initial investment, out of his own pocket, and funded it himself until it became established and self supporting. Today, we fund it. And by we, I am referring to the members, both seen and unseen, that have considered this site, our software, and our community something worth supporting, that have generously opened their pockets and made a contribution to ensure that we can continue doing what we do here.
- When I see the kind of speak of the "very frequent posters" here, addressing newcomers or "infrequent posters", I see sort of condescension and patronizing and which does NOT seem to be related to the respective content of the respective postings of either side, but simply to a "rule" or something that the former would have the "better rights" as the latter ones - of course, I don't discover this phenomenon in any thread and any exchange of posts, but it appears rather often and much more frequently than being coincidental or unintentionally.
This isn't something I have noticed. I am not saying that your observations are incorrect, it's just that I am not aware of it happening. There might be a certain amount of distrust to new members, especially ones that drag up very old threads, and post links to another site as their first post. The community will tend to look at them as possible spammers and might behave a bit less than throwing their arms open and hugging them to death.
- So what's going on here? What is the reason behind "unworthy" contributors here being treated like schoolboys were fifty years ago in civilised countries, especially in view of the fact that, as said, "regular" posters, the "masters" here, are allowed LOTS of "strong opinioning", so there does NOT seem to be a general rule of utmost complacency and attenuation, etc. that'd apply to everyone, far from that?
As I stated before, strong opinions are welcome, from anyone and everyone, regardless of how long they have been a member here.
- What is the general idea behind this allowing to freely discuss things for a minority here when for everybody else, it's permanent self-censorship in order to avoid reprimands or even kick-out?
There is no fear of being kicked out unless you are a spammer. As far as being reprimanded, it might happen in the case of a heated discussion that mouser will step in and make a post reminding us to be nice to each other and not make personal attacks, or he may send someone a private message to discuss a post one has made that might not be suitable. He will express his opinions and discuss things fairly with you. You may or may not see eye to eye on an issue. But he won't ban you or delete your posts over it.
- This being a discussion forum with lots of participation, it seems to me that the questions I ask here are of some relevance, since for many a potential poster to such a forum, it's a question of adhering to such rules that need some explanation, or to shut up to begin with. There are many countries in this world where people ain't equal, and much worse, but for a forum where you'd instinctively presume equality among the participants, this blatant non-equality in the treatment different classes of participants are granting each other, mutually, seems astonishing and worthwile a little more info about the underlying reasons for all this than you can get by simple observation, hence my request to get some background to all this.
You have every right in the world to voice your concerns and ask for clarification if there is something you do not understand. Our community prides itself in being respectful of other's opinions and allowing all participants to have their say. We are all equals here, more equal here than we would be considered elsewhere. We enjoy helping each other and answering each other's questions, including yours.
- Is there a chance go get this, or will the censor act first?
There is no censor here.
^give the OP some time and benefit of the doubt to read all the "litanies" that just got posted.
I'm sure it was a simple misunderstanding that will get worked out. I have high hopes clean will become a valued and regular visitor. I also give him/her credit for airing his/her concerns rather than just packing up and going elsewhere. That takes character as well, and it's one more reason why I hope to see him/her stay with us.
-40hz
I agree.
