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Find And Run Robot / Re: Latest FARR Release v2.107.04 beta - Sep 23, 2012
« Last post by ewemoa on February 14, 2012, 09:12 PM »
Thanks especially for:

Version 2.104.01 - Feb 14, 2012
  • [MajorFeature] Executable and setup are now digitally signed for extra security; instead of a zip-compatible installer, there are now 2 separate downloads for installer and portable version.
  • [BugFix] When using the -launch commandline call, and several other unusual places where files were launched, custom plugins were not being given a chance to take over launching.
  • [MinorFeature] Added context menu item to run the selected result "as admin"

Re: SnippingTool...
Failed to verify the following:

[BugFix] Some windows 7 start menu items were failing to launch (for example the Snipping tool)

SnippingTool.exe doesn't appear to show up here via FARR (via typing SnippingTool.exe as well as via c:\windows\system32\snipping).  I am able to drag and drop SnippingTool.exe on to the edit field of FARR's main window (starting from Windows Explorer), but pressing Enter doesn't appear to launch anything.  FWIW, SnippingTool.exe does launch via Windows Explorer.

This testing was done under Windows 7 Pro 64-bit -- and FARR 2.104.2.

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Ecaradec's Software / Re: Qatapult
« Last post by ewemoa on February 14, 2012, 08:40 PM »
WINDOW only appears if you select and right arrow the window (catalog ) thing in the default catalog.

Nice...except, after I press right-arrow and subsequently select a window, pressing TAB doesn't appear to do anything -- I expected the second pane to receive focus, but it is blank.  Am I missing something?

"Indexed Files (Catalog)" worked as expected though :)
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Ecaradec's Software / Re: Qatapult
« Last post by ewemoa on February 14, 2012, 08:36 PM »
BTW, any chance to have an option to have Qatapult's window display on start up of the Qatapult.exe executable?
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Ecaradec's Software / Re: Qatapult
« Last post by ewemoa on February 14, 2012, 07:34 PM »
And I've disabled the reload command in this version so that the quit command is working again. Reload didn't work reliably enough to be able to use it really, so I think it's best to at least have 'quit'.

Hmm, I don't remember it having failed here under Windows 7 Pro 64-bit...
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Thanks for the response.

Do you know of an app that uses it in a hotkey?

Back when I made the original query I was in the process of writing one that did (this was in AHK) -- but I didn't end up releasing it.  Apart from that one I don't recall any at the moment.
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Any comments on the following?

Is there already support for VK_APPS (the key that brings up the context-sensitive menu)?

(I checked the thread so far, the docs, and the app itself but didn't have much luck figuring this out.)
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Ecaradec's Software / Re: Qatapult
« Last post by ewemoa on February 14, 2012, 05:49 AM »
skin.zip - 30.7 KB

Worked nicely here  :up:

May be ecaradec will make skins more like plugins... :)
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Ecaradec's Software / Re: Qatapult
« Last post by ewemoa on February 14, 2012, 05:48 AM »
I updated winpult-mod with some name and icon suggestions.
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Ecaradec's Software / Re: Qatapult
« Last post by ewemoa on February 14, 2012, 04:57 AM »
Ps i like you can get more than 3 panes. I know you might not want this, but i'm sure it will come in handy for me so time in the future.

There is also the idea of the "action" living in the first pane for an alternative UI idea :)
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Ecaradec's Software / Re: Qatapult
« Last post by ewemoa on February 14, 2012, 04:54 AM »
...i took this one step further. the script is ready for the WINDOW datatype and will except HWND id or window title.

Works nicely here for the most part  :up:

Attached is what I've adapted for local use (includes: toggleontop and restore with some icon and code mods).

MD5: 2ce1a2470397d3a49dd5bd43d6b08e41
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Ecaradec's Software / Re: Qatapult
« Last post by ewemoa on February 14, 2012, 04:51 AM »
Does this make more sense?

[ ... ]  So an example might be (1st pane)

Window > arrow left > List of WINDOW objects in the first pane. then right arrow to get back out to search all again?

Nearly -- if you switch left and right, I think that's closer -- as in, right arrow to get a list and left arrow to get back out.



Regarding skins / interfaces:

Not sure if there is much more than what you've found, but in the manual posted before starting on page 23 in the Interfaces section, there is some info along with some screenshots.  What's show in the manual includes:

  • Primer
  • Window
  • Mini
  • Bezel
  • Flashlight
  • Menu
  • Cube
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FARR Plugins and Aliases / Re: FARR plugin: Akete
« Last post by ewemoa on February 14, 2012, 02:49 AM »
(3) When using Akete association, two launching processes seem run redundantly, one via Akete and another via the default association; e.g. when I launch a text file having extension 'txt', both the text editor associated to the extension 'txt' by Akete and a notepad via default file association open the file, respectively.

komtak,

mouser investigated the issue and has prepared another version of fscript.dll.  Perhaps you can try it out and let us know if it addresses your third issue?  It seems to work for us.

Please find it attached to this post (note: its version is a bit odd -- once we are comfortable with a fix, I hope we can release a version which is more appropriate).

dll's MD5: 0742d6c85db9ec153c7d6b22634d4544
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Ecaradec's Software / Re: Qatapult
« Last post by ewemoa on February 13, 2012, 07:56 PM »
Not sure if i follow. Do you mean limit the results in the first pane by context?

Not every object in QS could be gotten at directly by typing a string that would match that object's name -- at least not starting from a blank first (or third) pane.  Some objects one would get at via an intermediate containing / grouping object.  The containing object might be accessible by typing its name to get it into the first pane, and then one could "enter" it sort of by typing right-arrow.  One would then see a list of results that was "contained" in a sense -- and in that list of results there'd be these objects.

Imagine only being able to get at folders (but not files) in FARR or Qatapult by typing strings matching their names right after bringing up their main windows.  Files might be accessed by bringing up a containing folder and then pressing the right-arrow to start the process of navigating to a target file.

As an example in QS, the following describes a bit of what could be done with the iTunes plugin:

  • Bring up "Recent Tracks" in the first pane
  • Press the right arrow key to see a list of results (tracks)
  • Choose a result (track)

In this example, it may have been that the tracks that showed up in the results list could not be gotten at directly by typing their names when the applicable pane was blank to begin with.  It may have also been that "Recent Tracks" itself couldn't be gotten to without bring up the iTunes (app) object in the first pane.  Once the iTunes object was brought up, one could right-arrow into it, and one of the results was "Recent Tracks".

I'm a bit fuzzy on the details for the iTunes plugin as I didn't use iTunes much :)

Does this make more sense?



I use Linux at home and there's an app called synapse thats my default lanucher of choice.

Hadn't heard of this one -- thanks for mentioning it.  I currently use kupfer which is pretty close to QS.  I just tried building synapse but it seems to have some dependencies which may take some time to get straight.  Hope to get some direct experience soon though :)

Ah, there appear to be some relevant videos on youtube -- may be some might be worth taking a look at.



Too tired to continue at the moment.  May be I will be up to processing the rest later.



P.S. Hope to check out your further Window-related work.  Sounds good so far!
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Ecaradec's Software / Re: Qatapult
« Last post by ewemoa on February 13, 2012, 07:47 AM »
The other thing that is starting to annoy me is that all the types tends to land into the first pane. Do you know how QS used to solve that ?

What I recall at the moment is:

Encourage people not to add too much to the Catalog -- by limiting the number of sources and how many items each source contained.  For example, if there were a source for a folder, scan depth was one of the configurable properties (see pages 120-121 and 27-30 in the manual).

Another item was to apply "right-arrowing" into certain objects:

Page 30:
If Advanced features are enabled, in the Quicksilver set there is a source called Quicksilver Catalog Entries. If enabled, an item is added to the catalog for each source configured. These items have names that end with “(Catalog)”. You can select one of these items in the first pane and then type → to navigate through just that source. If you want to do this often, create a trigger. E.g., the trigger Applications (Catalog) (Show Contents) lets you search through just the applications in your catalog (well those that are found via this catalog source). While you can often do this just by typing → into an object, if you have custom sources configured (say for files of a particular project) this can be very handy.

and

Page 65:
Activate Quicksilver and select iTunes in the first pane; iTunes does not have to be running. Typing → will show a new results list of several ways to browse the iTunes library:

Recent Tracks
Show Playing Track
Browse Genres
Browse Artists
Browse Composers
Browse Albums
Browse Tracks
Music Library
all the playlists and smart playlists

If the iTunes Playlists catalog source is enabled, all of these items are also in the global catalog, i.e., available in the first pane after activating Quicksilver. However, specific songs, albums, artists are never in the global catalog, only these grouping objects are. This keeps the catalog at a reasonable size. Quicksilver startup might be slow if there’s a large iTunes library. If this is the case, consider disabling the iTunes Playlists catalog source.

From the second quote one can see that there was a way to make things available in QS without them coming up directly in the first pane.  Typically one could get at such things by first getting a kind of grouping/containing object to show up in the first pane and then "right-arrowing" into it see a list of "contained" items.

IIRC, users did express a desire for some kind of filtering-by-type while interacting with specific panes but I don't recall such a thing being implemented while I was a user.

On pages 13-14 there is:

You might not have realized this but Quicksilver shows what matches what you typed in two different ways. When first activated, Quicksilver will filter the whole catalog down to just the things that match what you typed. To be clear, the things that don’t match what you typed, are removed from the results list. However if at some point you type → or / to “go into” an object, if you type you’ll find that Quicksilver moves to (snaps to) the first item that matches what you typed alphabetically. The non-matching items are not removed. This is most apparent when browsing the file system or your iTunes library. It’s also evident when browsing a contact’s information, if you type to find their work phone number, the other information is still displayed in the results list (which is convenient). Sometimes these behaviors are known as selection as opposed to narrowing. In a results list there’s a gear menu in the top right of the window, from there you can choose these behaviors via the Search Modes sub-menu:

 Filter Results - Filters the current results list.
 Filter Catalog - Filters, but also includes the entire contents of the top-level catalog. Lasts until you type esc or activate Quicksilver again (⌃-space).
 Snap to Best - scrolls the results list to the best match but doesn’t remove non-matching
items.

May be the gear menu idea mentioned could be adapted / modified for some kind of filtering-by-type...

qs-results-wide.jpg



I noticed too that the reload and quit seems to be slightly unreliable, sometimes they work, sometimes they don't. I'm stopping the indexing thread to reload and quit now. I suppose that something is preventing the thread to stop here.

I confirmed that "Reload" and "Quit" were much slower on an XP machine.  They did eventually work, but at the speed I was experiencing, I think I'd end up opting to terminate the process and start it manually.  I have been lucky under Windows 7 so far and haven't noticed any problems with speed for "Reload" / "Quit".



Or may be I should just start working on creating a dialog for editing shortcuts. No keys are probably going to be usable for everyone.

If it's not too much work, this feature might let us try out various possibilities and perhaps the results of our experiments might be useful for deciding on some defaults :)  Personally, I think I'm fine to try to change things via the settings file as long as figuring out what the codes are for various keys can be made practical...
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Ecaradec's Software / Re: Qatapult
« Last post by ewemoa on February 13, 2012, 02:37 AM »
Thanks for the example pigeonlips!

A) search is not that great i have one match for  Qatapult - DonationCoder.com - Chromium, but can only find it if i type an uppercase Q. No other combo works (qata, chrom, don, Don, etc)

I think this is the problem I was having -- only pigeonlips figured things out in much more detail!  I confirm this is what happens here under Windows 7 Pro 64-bit.

Knowing this I got my earlier attempt at a plugin to work -- it just sends some window to the bottom of the stack using AHK's WinSet w/ Bottom argument.

Here's what I have:

plugins\SendToBack\SendToBack.ahk
Code: Autohotkey [Select]
  1. ; icon adapted from:
  2. ;   http://rrze-icon-set.berlios.de/index.html
  3.  
  4. NArgs = %0%
  5.  
  6. Hwnd = %1%
  7.  
  8. ; XXX
  9. OutputDebug, % "Number of arguments passed in: " . NArgs
  10. OutputDebug, % "  Hwnd: " . Hwnd
  11.  
  12. WinSet, Bottom, , % "ahk_id " . Hwnd

plugins\SendToBack\plugin.xml
Code: Text [Select]
  1. <settings>
  2.     <rules>
  3.         <rule>
  4.             <arg>WINDOW</arg>
  5.             <arg>
  6.                 <item>
  7.                     <lbl>Send To Back</lbl>
  8.                     <ico>plugins\SendToBack\SendToBack.png</ico>
  9.                 </item>
  10.             </arg>
  11.             <cmd>plugins\AHK\AutoHotkey.exe</cmd>
  12.             <args>plugins\SendToBack\SendToBack.ahk "$0.hwnd"</args>
  13.         </rule>
  14.     </rules>
  15. </settings>

plugins\SendToBack\SendToBack.png should be attached
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Ecaradec's Software / Re: Qatapult
« Last post by ewemoa on February 12, 2012, 09:29 PM »
"In the properties dialog for the file "AutoHotkey.exe" (or a compiled script), change the compatibility setting to "Windows XP"."
You could try that.

Thanks for the suggestion.  I'm hoping to try that when I re-establish access to an appropriate Windows environment.

lol - i need to get off this outdated copy of XP.

FWIW, although I started using Windows 7 recently, at the moment, I still prefer XP for many things.
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Ecaradec's Software / Re: Qatapult
« Last post by ewemoa on February 12, 2012, 08:13 PM »
Here's an example!

extract to plugins folder

volume.zip - 239.2 KB

if you just want to see how to add em click here:

Also here's the ahk if you prefer to an uncomplied version (and or) modify to suit your needs!

Thanks for the uncompiled version.  I tried to adapt things to work here.

I may have run into a snag though.  Executing:

0'
Volume
MASTER

I get a dialog box with the text:

Mixer Doesn't Support This Component Type

May be it has something to do with the environment here being Windows 7.   Don't know if it's relevant but came across the following from the SoundSet docs:

On Windows Vista or later, SoundSet and SoundGet affect only the script itself (this may be resolved in a future version). There are at least two ways to work around this:

1) In the properties dialog for the file "AutoHotkey.exe" (or a compiled script), change the compatibility setting to "Windows XP".

2) Have the script send volume-control keystrokes to change the master volume for the entire system. For example:

Send {Volume_Up}  ; Raise the master volume by 1 interval (typically 5%).
Send {Volume_Down 3}  ; Lower the master volume by 3 intervals.
Send {Volume_Mute}  ; Mute/unmute the master volume.
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Ecaradec's Software / Re: Qatapult
« Last post by ewemoa on February 12, 2012, 07:48 PM »
Quote from: ecaradec on Today at 02:21:20 PM
- A reload command can now reload all the config file without quiting and restarting qatapult
Not working for me. It disapears but in the task manager its remains and the PID doesnt change. It then seems to Hang. (or i can not summon it again).

I think the intention is for settings and plugins to be re-read without the running process exiting and a new one starting.  FWIW, the PID doesn't appear to change here after executing "Reload".

Also the quit feature doenst work for me ether now where it did before. I have to stop it via the task manager now. On win XP. Might be something about my machine. Not sure.

It seems to work here -- though this is with Windows 7 Pro 64-bit.
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Ecaradec's Software / Re: Qatapult
« Last post by ewemoa on February 12, 2012, 03:59 PM »
Thanks for the update :)



- A reload command can now reload all the config file without quiting and restarting qatapult

Hurray!  It's working nicely.



- You can now add new line in text by pressing shift+enter

This works here too :)

I noticed that the cursor position advances to the right by one after Shift+Enter instead of to the next line.  Does that happen there too?



- There is now a WINDOW source that list the currently active windows that can be queried for $x.title and $x.hwnd. I haven't made any rule with those, but there is probably a ton of uses

I have a use in mind but haven't figured out how to use this appropriately yet.  To test this out, what should I try to populate the first pane with?



I'd like to be able to clear the content of the current pane -- is there a recommended way of doing so without using multiple presses of Backspace or Delete?



I converted Calculate to the new format.  I also made a not-directly-usable "plugin" to collect the shared AutoHotkey pieces.  It's a folder inside the plugins directory named AHK and it contains:

  • Lib\
  • AutoHotkey.dll
  • AutoHotkey.exe <- actually from HotkeyIt's AutoHotkey

The contents are referenced by local versions of Calculate and LargeType.  Below is what LargeType's plugin.xml file looks like here.

Code: Text [Select]
  1. <settings>
  2.     <rules>
  3.         <rule>
  4.             <arg>TEXT</arg>
  5.             <arg>
  6.                 <item>
  7.                     <lbl>Large Type</lbl>
  8.                     <ico>plugins\LargeType\LargeType.png</ico>
  9.                 </item>
  10.             </arg>
  11.             <cmd>plugins\AHK\AutoHotkey.exe</cmd>
  12.             <args>plugins\LargeType\LargeType.ahk "$0.text"</args>
  13.         </rule>
  14.     </rules>
  15. </settings>

time to...
search DC forums for some convenient XML editors may be :)

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Ecaradec's Software / Re: Qatapult
« Last post by ewemoa on February 12, 2012, 03:00 AM »
Is there some way to input newlines / CRs in text mode?  It looks like pasting text with them works.

If there isn't a way already and it's worth doing, may be some modifier + Enter?  I think I've seen Alt+Enter as well as Shift+Enter.

Not sure how multiple lines might end up working when using text values as arguments though...may be temporary files might be used for communication to / from Qatapult?
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Ecaradec's Software / Re: Qatapult
« Last post by ewemoa on February 11, 2012, 09:10 PM »
Here's what Calculate usage looks like now:

Division
qatapult-calculate-division.png.png
qatapult-calculate-division-result.png.png

Trig
qatapult-calculate-trig.png.png
qatapult-calculate-trig-result.png

The implementation uses AutoHotkey.dll -- the text is just evaluated by AHK.
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Ecaradec's Software / Re: Qatapult
« Last post by ewemoa on February 11, 2012, 08:58 PM »
None of the following worked:

  • Send
  • SendRaw
  • SendInput
  • SendPlay
  • SendEvent

However, doing the following first does:

Code: Autohotkey [Select]
  1. Send, .
  2.     Send, {BackSpace}

Pasting seems to work fine.
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Living Room / Re: When you make your 100'th Post
« Last post by ewemoa on February 11, 2012, 05:10 PM »
Thanks for capturing my firewire post :)
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Ecaradec's Software / Re: Qatapult
« Last post by ewemoa on February 11, 2012, 05:08 PM »
Are you actually pasting text into qatapult or sending it in some way via autohotkey ? If you send it as char it would be as if you hit the . key, and as qatapult is doing some special use with it it doesn't work. Autohotkey also has special send commands that behave differently, one of them might work better...

Tried a few of the Send* commands without much success.  If none of them work, may be I'll try pasting.
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Living Room / Re: When you make your 100'th Post
« Last post by ewemoa on February 11, 2012, 07:55 AM »
A belated congratulations to ecaradec for his 300th post:

ecaradec-300.png

the capture may look weird because...
it was made with chromium running via Debian

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