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All fair points. I just wonder, is it really ideal for something like documentation? I don't know, I'm honestly asking. :D

- Oshyan
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Ah, LaTeX... I always see this being touted as the holy grail of "proper" document creation, and I see the theoretical advantages. But ironically I have yet to see a really nice looking LaTex document example. Is that just because the people creating them don't care to make them look fancy? Most of the examples I've seen are also math-oriented, and I know it has superior equation editing/syntax/whatever. But I still wonder how applicable it is to most of my projects...

- Oshyan
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Yeah, I was going to suggest DropBox (or similar) for "version control" and backup.

- Oshyan
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I'm right there with you. This is actually one of my biggest frustrations with OpenOffice (and any other Office clone for that matter): they aren't just copying the good from MS Office, they're also copying the "bad" (IMHO, of course, hehe). Maybe it's just me and naive hope, but I can't help thinking that if OpenOffice came out with better formatting tools than Office, the kind of thing you mention e.g. select a series of formatted bullets with multiple levels and auto-create a style out of it that you can freely apply to any level of bullet, that it would really gain some respect against word and set itself apart. As it is OOo is left just being an also-ran, always compared to Word, which still has some advantages in terms of UI smoothness and certainly speed. But just imagine if OOo formatting systems were a step beyond Office 2k7 or 2k10 - wouldn't that spark some more legitimate comparison and debate? Wouldn't that be a lot more interesting? Doesn't that serve OOo's goals more?

I'm tired of everyone just trying to do the crappy things MS has done, only for free, or "open source", and somehow that's supposed to be enough. What about different, *better* ways of doing it? When it comes down to it, as you said, the ribbon is really just a different way to interface with the same old semi-broken styling system. There are a few improvements to be fair, but overall it's just a new way to interact with the same old tools. What about new tools, or at least *smarter* tools?

Adobe has just come out with CS5 Suites, and though they really have no major competition, they've added a pretty nice array of new features, including Content Aware Fill (which arguably had competition from a GIMP plugin well before its release, but let's ignore that for a moment :D). Where is the Content Aware Fill equivalent in MS Word? Come on people!

- Oshyan
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Yeah, um... you *should* be able to define a single style for one segment of text, but I don't think you can define a whole type of formatting and then apply that easily to a block of text, having it intelligently format based on positioning or something (not that I'm suggesting that's what you asked for). I also don't think you can just create e.g. a multi-level list, format it the way you want, and then create a multi-level list style out of that, where you could then apply e.g. level 3 to another bulletted list easily. That being said, as indicated in that other thread of yours, this may be easier in 2007 or 2010. Which version are you using now?

- Oshyan
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Whether you want to use multiple files or a single depends IMO on your eventual output and use requirements. Are you printing this? Do you basically want a single "document" (e.g. book), but would think of doing it as separate files if it made it easier? In other words would you prefer to use 1 file, unless it's necessary/better/easier to use multiple? In that case I think you can probably use 1 file, although I'm uncertain about multiple ToCs in one DOC. Doing it as multiple files with a master document would be the logical choice then. Using a single file would simplify things as far as styling and whatnot goes though, so that's something to consider.

Setting up styles can be a bit of a pain in my experience. Might be better in 2k7 or 2k10 than 2k3, so if you're using a newer version you have possible cause for hope. But the most important thing is just to do it from the beginning if at all possible. This involves some pre-planning. Figure out for example how many levels of headings you'll need, from the top all the way down (without writing all the content first of course :D), and then set all the heading formats up the way you want them. The alternative is to write all your content unformatted then format after. This could be ideal, if you can deal with the initial lack of formatting during writing, because it allows you to apply formatting only once you're fully aware of all the formatting needs of the document, but it's a luxury I've seldom seen it actually being possible to take advantage of...

- Oshyan
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Hehe, well I think someone's suggestion in my thread might work well for you: setup your styles and use a master document. Since it's just you doing everything, you'll have no problem adhering to the style guidelines. ToC handling is pretty automatic, sometimes you just need to manually force an update, but as long as you're using headers and other formatting correctly, it should all get in there. So really I think the best thing to do is make sure you're formatting the documents correctly and consistently from the beginning, and everything should flow from there.

I realize though that this is general advice rather than a specific technique or workflow. Hopefully it's helpful regardless.

- Oshyan
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General Software Discussion / Re: Powerpoint sucks - what to use instead?
« Last post by JavaJones on May 10, 2010, 04:04 PM »
I did check out Google Docs, but I couldn't see a way to create templates. Do you know how? I did see they have several pre-defined, very simplistic templates, which might work to keep things simple in content creation. Unfortunately no way to lock down what tools can be used, so while it's not as full-featured as Powerpoint, you can do just as much damage with the tools available. ;)

- Oshyan
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General Software Discussion / Re: Powerpoint sucks - what to use instead?
« Last post by JavaJones on May 09, 2010, 09:39 PM »
Hi daver, thanks for jumping in! I'm pretty familiar with Presenter having converted my whole company to OpenOffice a couple years ago (and recently, back to Office 2k3 :( ). But it has the same problems as Powerpoint, and - in my experience - the templating is even harder to modify, apply, and restrict. It's a fantastic free replacement for Powerpoint, but I don't think it quite fits my needs in this case. Indeed, we had been using OOo and Presenter to do our presentations initially, but found even the normal styling functions to be challenging to actually use consistently. Even Office 2k7 was an improvement, though I don't appreciate everything about it to be sure.

- Oshyan
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General Software Discussion / Re: Powerpoint sucks - what to use instead?
« Last post by JavaJones on May 07, 2010, 11:07 PM »
Thanks for the reply Jabberwock. Late April is too old? :D Well I'm still looking for a solution, so input continues to be appreciated.

While you make some interesting points about Word, I'm not aware of it being able to truly lock down formatting in the way that I want. It's funny actually, because it's rare that I actually want to impose *more* limits on an application, but in this case it's really best to avoid the ability for content authors to "get creative" with layout and design. I've seen first hand that the end results are seldom better than a simple, generic layout. The trick is enforcing layout and design standards. Also does Word have the ability to easily update the style across multiple documents? For example if we later decide we want to change our font from Arial to Times, could we do this to 50 Word documents without opening and applying a style to each one? Think of how this would work with CSS - I would change the single CSS file that every document references, and viola! It's done.

Anyway, as you can probably see, I'm still thinking an HTML and CSS based solution may be the ticket. But no progress on developing that thus far on my end...

- Oshyan
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Mm, so far existing efforts to "petition" MS to actually make the thing don't seem too popular: http://www.petitiono...ourier/petition.html
http://www.petitions...ns/microsoftcourier/

Would a dedicated website make the difference? Who knows. :D

- Oshyan
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Do you actually have an iPad yet? My impression is that the weight and need to constantly hold/prop up the thing actually is a detraction for comfortable long-term reading vs. even a netbook, which can stand in a readable position on its own quite easily. For example I can lay on my side and put my netbook in front of me and read something largely hands free, with only the occasional press of spacebar or arrow keys to move to a new page, but otherwise not needing to hold it up or anything. Same if I am in bed say, putting it up on stomach, or if I'm on the couch putting it on my lap (and inclining the screen a bit). Whereas the iPad, you have more versatile screen positioning, but it doesn't hold itself up, so you're responsible for doing that the entire time you use it. Just something to think about...

- Oshyan
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I don't know, I'm curious too. Also, my battery doesn't stick out or anything, it's not particularly big-seeming. I think it just makes thicker in the back than the front, so it's kind of like a stand almost. :D http://www.liliputin...-unboxing-video.html

- Oshyan
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Living Room / Re: Apple instigates Police Raid over lost/stolen iPhone 4G
« Last post by JavaJones on May 06, 2010, 01:57 PM »
Man this thread is insanity, hehe. Ok, just one quick point to add. I think one might consider the large prison population in the US is also influenced by our not only hard-line stance against "recreational drugs", but the fact that we have a full-on "task force" and a "war on drugs". I don't think many other countries are quite so serious about arresting people on drug charges. After all, we have a whole branch of law enforcement for this - the DEA (Drug Enforcement Agency).

Here are some quotes from the quickest source I could find (so happens to be the World Socialist Website :-[ I'm sure I could find a "better" source if I spent more than 30 seconds on the search):
http://www.wsws.org/...p2007/pris-s29.shtml

According to a new report from The Sentencing Project, drug arrests have more than tripled in the last 25 years, to a record 1.8 million arrests in 2005. The so-called war on drugs has pushed the number of incarcerated drug offenders up by 1,100 percent since 1980. During this same period, rates of drug use declined by half.
The overwhelming majority of drug arrests are for possession of marijuana, and most persons in prison for a drug offense have no history of violence or high-level drug selling activity.

The number of prisoners held without being sentenced is also on the rise, according to the Justice Department figures. In 2006, 62 percent of jail inmates were awaiting trial, up from 51 percent in 1990 and 56 percent in 2000. Most were arrested on drug offenses.

Whether drugs are illegal in your country or not, I doubt their illegality is as strictly enforced as it is here in the US.

- Oshyan
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Strange Wraith, your Acer has basically the same specs as mine (CPU, RAM, 6 cell battery, just under 3 pounds, etc.) but mine apparently has significantly better battery life. This is what I got: http://www.amazon.co...etbook/dp/B002DYIXMI

It advertises 10 hr life, but I get 9-9.5 regularly. They now have newer models advertising 12hr, so I bet you could get 10-11.

- Oshyan
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In fairness, the "Courier" thing was probably just a product *concept*. The videos we saw were probably mockups at best. So yeah, great concepts, but could it actually be done the way it was shown? I don't know, and I'm even less confident of Microsoft's ability to do it. ;)

- Oshyan
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Wraith, it sounds like you either have a crappy netbook, or a broken/old one. Might goes 9+hrs on battery, about the same as iPad as far as I know. I leave it laying around for weeks not plugged in and it still has basically a full charge. Of course mine is only about a year old, maybe a little less, but still. Is battery life really the only differentiator between the two for you? I guess depending on what you use the thing for that may be legitimate, but for me the keyboard is almost a must, as is multitasking, running any app I want, easy file sharing, built-in webcam for video chat, and a zillion other things the iPad just doesn't do. Basically I use my netbook like an ultra-portable general-purpose computer. I "make do" working on it when I don't want to lug around my larger laptop. It would be a whole lot more "making do" using an iPad. But yeah, if I wasn't trying to do any actual work on it, the iPad might suffice.

- Oshyan
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My pleasure. I was just reminded of it again myself recently and was similarly impressed (though I haven't setup a local install to test yet). The fact that a lot of the modules and addons were also free, unlike Concrete5, was another plus. My only concern at this point is layout flexibility while maintaining CMS editing. I've read some issues in the forums about e.g. 3 column layouts needing to be handled manually since the CMS is somewhat rigid in its content arrangement logic. Not sure about the details though.

- Oshyan
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Living Room / Re: One of my cats, Titch, passed away yesterday
« Last post by JavaJones on May 05, 2010, 01:09 PM »
Very sorry to hear this Carol. I immediately thought of when my beloved cat of 19 years passed away many years ago, and was shocked to see how much your Titch looked like her when I saw the pictures! I dearly love tortoise shells. You have my deepest sympathies.

- Oshyan
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Living Room / Re: The conflict of interest that is Google
« Last post by JavaJones on May 05, 2010, 12:33 PM »
Yes, of course I don't expect Google to actually disclose that info. But it's the only way questions like how much money the "screen scraping" sites make for Google will ever be answered. That discussion earlier in the thread is what I was referring to.

- Oshyan
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Living Room / Re: Apple instigates Police Raid over lost/stolen iPhone 4G
« Last post by JavaJones on May 05, 2010, 12:03 PM »
Good points again 40hz (re ACLU, etc.). I'm not an Apple fan or apologist either, and I agree the police didn't have to break down doors, etc.; that's going too far. But as far as the actual legal consequences of what Gizmodo did, well I honestly don't feel that great about seeing the journalist shield laws coming up for argument with possible criminal complications in the mix when the root of the story is a mere tech gadget. It would be a lot different and more worth serious court time if this was a journalist who had paid a fence $5000 for some stolen documents from a dirty dealing company or something, thus helping expose a corporate scandal in the works for example. In that case the strict legalities might be the same (dealing in stolen property), but the potential for actual public benefit is much higher and more worth defending based on journalistic shield laws IMHO.

- Oshyan
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Living Room / Re: The conflict of interest that is Google
« Last post by JavaJones on May 05, 2010, 11:58 AM »
I know their revenue comes almost entirely from ads, that's well understood. The bigger question for me is what the revenue split is between various types of pages. That's something I doubt we'd see them publicly disclose though. While the above numbers are interesting, the difference between "Google websites" and "Google network websites" doesn't begin to cover the granularity we need to understand the points through this conversation.

I do however agree with your previous point, and it's a good insight, that Google of course understands their own algorithms better than anyone else could, and so should be able to place a page tops in the rankings if they choose.

I certainly never disagreed that there is huge potential for abuse here. There is huge potential for abuse in having a central government, too, but few are advocating for its total dissolution; just appropriate controls, checks and balances. Theoretically we already have those checks in place with monopoly/antitrust legislation, etc. for corporations.

In any case I'm just not sure how much abuse is actually going on right now. But again the potential is there and is well worth concern.

- Oshyan

- Oshyan
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General Software Discussion / Re: NewEgg
« Last post by JavaJones on May 04, 2010, 03:02 PM »
Hehe, finding the best product and the best deal are often different things, and I use different tools for both purposes (though there is some overlap).

For general product search I think Newegg has the best options by far. Their Power Search is a technoweenie's wet dream (aside a few quirks of the presumably automated filter creation system and wording issues). So I often start there just to find what product I might even want to find the best prices on. I also like Newegg's reviews better than most other sites because the audience is usually fairly tech-savvy.

Once I find  the product(s) I'm interested in, I then check prices on Amazon and TigerDirect, as well as Google Shopping as necessary. Amazon is generally my preferred vendor just because I have Prime and free 2 day shipping is hard to beat. They also don't charge me tax. TigerDirect is great too, often free shipping (but not 2 day), and they don't charge tax either. Newegg does charge me tax being a CA resident, so that's why I tend not to buy from them much, but if I lived outside CA I'd probably buy from them a lot more as they do generally have good prices and, as I said, a great search engine.

- Oshyan
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Living Room / Re: Do you collect anything?
« Last post by JavaJones on May 04, 2010, 12:53 PM »
I used to collect watches when I was in elementary school. The big question though is do you *wear* your collection? Yes, I wore up to 3 watches simultaneously on a regular basis. :D

- Oshyan
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Site/Forum Features / Re: Discussion: How can we Improve DonationCoder?
« Last post by JavaJones on May 04, 2010, 12:46 PM »
so from my standpoint i think maybe the best bang for the buck in terms of improving site organization is to leave the forum as it is -- and just focus on making the rest of the non-forum website pages on DonationCoder.com better in terms of exposing the rest of the content on the site, and making it easier to maintain those pages.
 
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- Oshyan
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