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Living Room / Re: Are Creative Commons Licenses Even Enforceable?
« Last post by app103 on August 25, 2013, 05:42 PM »
But "proof" could be some kind of crypto-signed certificate. You could even make an audio format where the "cert travels with the song". That's why I was saying "assume the documentation is there" - aka there's lots of work to do, but let's examine the raw legal status of the license itself.

Yes, there is a lot of work to do, and none of it is going to help anyone that is using CC licensed works, today. If you go back earlier in this thread, before it was raised from the dead, I did state how the problems could have been avoided in the first place. But then again, these problems do exist because the CC people specifically didn't want to avoid the problems they knew would happen. It was too much trouble, fuss, bother, and expense to do things right, so they did them half-fast.
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Living Room / Re: Are Creative Commons Licenses Even Enforceable?
« Last post by app103 on August 25, 2013, 04:52 PM »
I agree that CC "sits on top of copyright", but I don't think it can be revoked after the fact because otherwise that sounds like a breach of contract for the original license.

But that's only if you can even prove it was CC licensed, in the first place, and licensed that way by the actual copyright holder.
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Living Room / Re: Are Creative Commons Licenses Even Enforceable?
« Last post by app103 on August 25, 2013, 03:10 PM »
Don't know how it works elsewhere, but in the US you have a copyright whether you want it or not. If you do CC you still have a legally enforceable copyright. If you don't want it, you can put your work into the public domain - in which case everybody owns the copyright. But there still is, and will always be, a legal copyright in effect on any original creative work.

And yes, and CC has been successfully enforced in US courts. But it works in addition to the copyright. The courts have made it clear it doesn't replace it. And filing a CC does not mean you have a "legal right" to waive copyright. In fact, the courts have repeatedly said you can't waive it.

No, you can not waive copyright. You can not waive copyright and place your works in the public domain, either. That is not a legal option available to the creator. You are stuck with your copyright, whether you want it or not.

And as the article states, it doesn't matter if you decide to allow free use, promising not to sue. Your heirs, who will inherit your copyrights when you die, made no such promise to the people that are using your work, and might not decide to honor your wishes. As the new owners of that copyright, they have that right, especially in the absence of any proof of the creator's intentions, and even where proof exists (Woody Guthrie's anti-copyright notice and how there are plenty of people currently claiming and enforcing copyrights on his works, is a perfect example.).

(Really, take the time to read the article, if you haven't yet. It raises some really good questions and makes some very good points.)

There hasn't yet been a case to test the validity of CC licenses in the long term.

There has yet been no case where an artist created a graphic and placed it on their website with a CC-BY  license, then died. Then their heirs didn't pay the hosting bill and the site, with the statement by the artist that the image was CC-BY licensed, went away. Then 25 years later, one of the heirs decides to start suing everyone that is using the image, requiring everyone to prove in court that they had permission from the artist to use that work.

There hasn't even been a case to test the validity of a CC license in the short term, where some troll posts something on their site, slaps a CC-BY license on it, blocks spidering by archive.org's Way Back Machine, changes the license to CC-BY-NC-ND, then goes and sues people that used it under the older license...anyone that used it commercially or created a derivative work.

And there hasn't been a case yet where someone puts something on his site that he never intended anyone to copy, then along comes someone else who takes it, copies it, and slaps a CC license on it, then another person seeing the CC license uses it, only to end up getting sued by the original creator who never gave his work any such license*.

How will the courts decide in these kinds of cases is anyone's guess, at this point. We really can't make any assumptions here, especially in the absence of a hand signed document giving a specific individual specific permission for use. And this was my point in the other thread when I said:

Nothing takes the place of a document spelling out your rights under whatever license the creator decides to grant you, hand signed by the copyright holder. That document is proof of permission. Anything else, no matter how fluffy and feel good it is, is not a suitable legally binding substitute.



*Technically, I could have sued a bunch of people based on a graphic that was stolen from one of my websites, for which someone stuck a portion of it in a scrapbooking kit, slapped a CC license on it requiring anyone that uses it to give them credit for it. I could have sued the creator of the scrapbooking kit, and anyone that used it, because I, the creator, never gave permission to anyone to use it other than for personal use as a desktop wallpaper. Any other use, by anyone, was unauthorized.

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Ren, and anyone else interested,

Instead of discussing copyright and unenforceable contracts in this humor thread, maybe it would be better in the original thread I started with that very link I posted earlier: https://www.donation...ex.php?topic=30129.0
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This should help out:

http://copyheart.org/manifesto/

It outlines the idea.

It might outline the idea, but reality and the law doesn't quite work like that.

http://c4sif.org/201...es-even-enforceable/

Nothing takes the place of a document spelling out your rights under whatever license the creator decides to grant you, hand signed by the copyright holder. That document is proof of permission. Anything else, no matter how fluffy and feel good it is, is not a suitable legally binding substitute.*


*says the woman who releases a lot of art under a CC-BY license, so let's not get into a debate where anyone accuses me of being some sort of copyright enforcement nut.I know the reality of what I am doing, but there really isn't an alternative. I have also threatened to rise from my grave and haunt future generations of my heirs, should any of them decide to go against my wishes and sue the users of my work for copyright infringement.And yes, I know the folly of that threat being about as enforceable as my CC-BY license is.

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Ever consider going to college and perhaps majoring or minoring in Computer Science, but don't really have the time to show up for classes, don't really want to go into debt paying for 4 years of college, and really don't want to fuss and bother with taking a bunch of classes that have absolutely nothing to do with your chosen major? (skip things like Psychology, Modern Dance, English Literature, and Art History?)

Maybe you should look into the offerings at Saylor.

They have 2 different Computer Science offerings, depending on whether you want to major or minor.

They use all free materials that are available online, including materials that are unique to their program. Once you have completed all of the materials for each course, there is a final exam that you can take that does count, to prove your mastery of each course.

Once you have completed all of the courses in the program, they will issue you a certificate, free of charge. While this isn't exactly the same as a 4 year degree from a traditional college, you'll pretty much have the same knowledge as someone that paid for their schooling, except perhaps all the unrelated nonsense from courses having nothing to do with Computer Science, that one is usually forced to take. See their FAQ for more information.

And if you aren't quite ready for taking the required math courses to complete their Computer Science program, perhaps need to brush up on Algebra first, or fill in some of the holes left over from a less than adequate high school education, you can go back and take the high school math courses that you may have missed out on or forgotten the material.




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Living Room / Re: *Email privacy and security survey*
« Last post by app103 on August 16, 2013, 09:37 PM »
I really don't think there is a truly secure way of sending passwords. You can try encrypting it sure...but then what do you do with the encryption key (Infinite loop anybody?)??

Go scuba diving in an underwater cave with a grease pencil and board to write on. Oh, and a good memory as you don't can't do this twice. Erase the board after you're done then set charges and blow up the cave after you leave - NOT before you leave! Important point there - AFTER! Not before! ;) ;D

Never underestimate the intelligence of dolphins. I am pretty sure they would hack your website, if given the chance...and your password.

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He's laughing because he knows it's true!
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Living Room / Re: Google: Gmail users shouldn't expect email privacy
« Last post by app103 on August 16, 2013, 08:41 PM »
I think that asks a bigger question: Why shouldn't we expect it? Seriously.

So, you are saying that in my example of a hand to hand delivered postcard or post-it note, that you would expect privacy and security? You would not expect anyone along the chain to read it, and funny looks from a prudish neighbor that was part of the delivery chain would come as a complete surprise and shock to you, and you would expect the $10,000 in cash to remain perfectly safe, and feel no need to change the pin on your credit cards?

I don't think the point is what you would expect, in terms of reality today.  It's what you should be able to expect.  And I don't think that, all things being equal, you should have to lock the virtual door in order to get privacy.  Privacy shouldn't have to be based on security.  Because if it is, then we have no privacy.  There are always people that with the appropriate amount of effort and desire, that can crack any security.

It doesn't matter what you expect. In a broken system, if you know it is broken but aren't willing to admit it, how can you ever expect to come up with a solution to the problem? Pointing fingers of blame at those that point out that there is a problem, isn't a solution. In other words, pointing fingers of blame at Google for stating that there shouldn't be an expectation of privacy, doesn't fix the root problem that caused them to be able to state that.

And even if you can still reasonably expect privacy, that nobody will enter when you leave your front door unlocked, don't expect your neighbors to look the other way if you refuse to put up shades or curtains and stand nude in front of the big picture window.  :P

Expectation may be one thing. But using expectation as a justification or an argument for the inevitability and necessity of a certain behavior is another.

To my mind, part of your argument strays dangerously close to the tendency of some to blame the victim.

Just because something bad happens is not the same thing as establishing that it must happen...
 :)


Admitting and pointing out that the system is broken is not blaming the victim that is forced to use the broken system. Not at all. And if it seemed as if that was what I was trying to do, then you misunderstood, and I apologize, because that was not my intention at all.

I would very much like to see the system fixed, or completely thrown out in favor of something better. But that is never going to happen if people are too busy running around blaming others instead of coming up with a solution that is easy enough for everyone to use. Whether that means adding easy to use, idiot proof PGP (or alternative) support to all email clients and webmail services, or throwing the whole thing out in favor of something like bitmessage (or something similar) then so be it. Just hurry up and fix it already because I have a business to launch that is going to depend on idiots being able to send me sensitive information, securely, for which I currently have no free easy idiot-proof cross-platform solution. There is nothing out there that I can say "use this" or "install this" and not have to worry about providing many hours of troubleshooting and support to get them set up and using it. If I have to do that, I'll have to raise my prices, which I don't want to do. And if I say "screw the idiots" then I'll lose a lot of business, because my target clients are the idiots, the lazy, and the insanely busy, and I expect many of my clients to be a combination of 2 or more.
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Living Room / Re: *Email privacy and security survey*
« Last post by app103 on August 16, 2013, 07:58 PM »
I've done a variation on that for clients (in a pinch) if I know they are sitting there waiting/trying to login. I log into the server, set their account to require a pw change on next login, and then Email the password to where ever they would like because it ain't gonna be any good in less than 60 seconds anyhow.

My situation is slightly different, in that I need Grandma Dum-Dum to be able to send the info to me, not the other way around. And if after receiving the info, I go and change her passwords on her (because she sent them insecurely), and she can't log into her cpanel or ftp, she is going to panic and think I have hijacked her website instead of securing it for her. I'd like to be able to have her give the info to me securely, use it to complete the job she hired me for, then suggest she change the passwords when the job is done. If at that point she doesn't take my advice, at least with it being me that has the password info, with my knowing I won't do anything harmful with it (if I can't trust myself, then who can I trust?), I won't have to worry as much.

I really don't think there is a truly secure way of sending passwords. You can try encrypting it sure...but then what do you do with the encryption key (Infinite loop anybody?)??

Bingo! Now you fully understand my problem.  :(
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Living Room / Re: Google: Gmail users shouldn't expect email privacy
« Last post by app103 on August 16, 2013, 06:14 PM »
I think that asks a bigger question: Why shouldn't we expect it? Seriously.

So, you are saying that in my example of a hand to hand delivered postcard or post-it note, that you would expect privacy and security? You would not expect anyone along the chain to read it, and funny looks from a prudish neighbor that was part of the delivery chain would come as a complete surprise and shock to you, and you would expect the $10,000 in cash to remain perfectly safe, and feel no need to change the pin on your credit cards?
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Living Room / Re: Google: Gmail users shouldn't expect email privacy
« Last post by app103 on August 16, 2013, 04:04 PM »
it's not a felony for every postal worker between the mailbox you dropped it into and the recipient to read it.

Actually, I'm pretty sure it is. They've arrested postal workers in the past for reading and rummaging through other people's mail without a warrant to do so.

I have not heard of a single case of a postal worker being fired or brought up on charges for reading a postcard, which is a lot different than opening an envelope or package. We are talking about something where the message sits out in the open, usually right next to the destination address. How would one even know the postal worker did or did not look at the message, even if they had a video tape of the incident? How would one know if they only looked at the address or not?

Last I heard if you leave something for your neighbor in their mailbox, that ain't got a stamp on it ... It's a felony. Pretty much anything that involves a mailbox (including kicking one) is considered a felony, because the mailbox itself is considered federal property.

Fine! Let's change my example to hand to hand delivery and keep the post office, postal workers, mailboxes, all federal property and anything related to such, out of it.

And let's change it from an unsealed envelope to a postcard or an unfolded post-it note while we are at it.

Does anyone still expect any privacy or security? Are you about to write down the pin code for your credit cards, the passwords for your web server, or the location and combo for a lock on a box containing $10,000 in cash? Would you even write how much you missed the person at the destination and what sexual acts you plan on performing on them the next time you see them, in full detail?

And if not, then why not?
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Living Room / Re: *Email privacy and security survey*
« Last post by app103 on August 16, 2013, 02:07 PM »
I know what it is, but I am not using it.

+1 - Because all encrypted communications do is draw unnecessary attention to your activities, and regardless of what you use it's not going to stop an elite focused (governmental...) attack. So the bulk of it strikes me as a waste of (cycle) time.

I don't think it would be a waste of time if one were a business and it was used for securely transferring password information between you and a client, but in the case of businesses that deal with common people that don't have any clue what PGP or an alternative is, or don't have what they need to use it installed, then it certainly makes things much more difficult to transfer that type of information securely (which is a problem I am facing right now, and to which I have not found a free easy moron-proof cross-platform solution)
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Living Room / Re: Google: Gmail users shouldn't expect email privacy
« Last post by app103 on August 16, 2013, 01:55 PM »
Why yes, I would.  And that's the purpose that violating that is a felony.

(and I am not talking about any government run postal service here)

I specifically stated that to indicate that I was not referring to government supplied postal service. If you handed the envelope to your next door neighbor who then handed it to his, and so on, till it got to the other side of town, if anyone snooped into it on the way, it would not be a felony, just as it isn't a felony for you to snoop the traffic that flows through your own server.

And besides, even if you mailed a postcard through government supplied postal service, it's not a felony for every postal worker between the mailbox you dropped it into and the recipient to read it. It's only a felony for someone else (like a neighbor) to break into a mailbox and read the contents, to open a sealed envelope and read its contents, or to steal the mail and prevent it from reaching its intended recipient. And like I said...email is just like sending a postcard.
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Living Room / Re: Google: Gmail users shouldn't expect email privacy
« Last post by app103 on August 16, 2013, 12:24 PM »
I'll just leave this here...
 (see attachment in previous post)

ROFLMFAO!!! That is BRILLIANT!! Seriously, I'm so frigging tired of having that conversation I could scream ... I'm going to have the graphics department blow that up to poster size and hang it in my office!

 :-* :-* Thank You!!!  :-* :-*

I created that graphic for an upcoming article I will be writing about email security and how it relates to website security.
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Living Room / *Email privacy and security survey*
« Last post by app103 on August 16, 2013, 11:36 AM »
After a number of recent discussions about email privacy and security, I decided to ask this question here and elsewhere, as I am curious as to the responses among DC members and the general public.
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Living Room / Re: Google: Gmail users shouldn't expect email privacy
« Last post by app103 on August 16, 2013, 10:15 AM »
That would be a bit more applicable if security is what we were talking about.  Security =/= Privacy, though they have many of the same concerns.

Would you expect any sort of security or privacy with a hand written letter, placed in an unsealed envelope, handed off to a chain of strangers to be finally delivered to its intended recipient (and I am not talking about any government run postal service here)? Any one of the strangers anywhere between you and the recipient could easily snoop on its contents and do whatever they wanted with any info gained from that snooping.

Email is like sending a postcard. There isn't even an envelope.

The only way an email can remain private and secure between point of origin and final destination is if it is encrypted with PGP or something similar.
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Living Room / Re: Google: Gmail users shouldn't expect email privacy
« Last post by app103 on August 16, 2013, 08:29 AM »
I'll just leave this here...

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Living Room / Re: Massive Subpoenas For Bitcoin People
« Last post by app103 on August 13, 2013, 07:08 PM »
"Bloomberg gave it an experimental ticker (XBT)" - Huh? Does anyone happen to know what "X" means there?

The X probably stands for eXperimental.

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Living Room / Re: The town where WiFi, TV, radio, and cellphones are banned
« Last post by app103 on August 13, 2013, 02:25 AM »
I don't know why they're still reporting on mutant reptilian alien-human hybrid babies. Doesn't that news get old?

They keep doing it because big green men is already taken by another tabloid.

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Living Room / Re: The town where WiFi, TV, radio, and cellphones are banned
« Last post by app103 on August 12, 2013, 08:15 PM »
Here is an old 3 page Wired article about the Zone and the guy that polices it, that will show you just how severe the restrictions are in some areas, and how closely people have to work in cooperation with each other to preserve the silence:

http://www.wired.com...ive/12.02/quiet.html
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Living Room / Re: The town where WiFi, TV, radio, and cellphones are banned
« Last post by app103 on August 12, 2013, 06:14 PM »
I know someone that lives in the zone, within walking distance of the observatory. FM radio reception is pretty bad for the stations you can get, which is why you either end up listening to AM most of the time (which he says sucks) or develop a love for internet radio, where you can stream FM stations from all over the world. And yes, cable TV is pretty much essential. But it's a bit more extreme than most people would think, since there are even restrictions where he is on stuff like cordless landline phones, wireless routers, and certain types of toys, unless your home is properly shielded to keep the signals inside it.

But those that live there are used to it all and that's where they choose to live. The alternative would be to ban both homes and businesses within the zone, kicking people out and taking over their properties with eminent domain laws. I think the compromise they decided on is much better for all parties involved.

And research might just offer them more options in the future:

http://www.ece.vt.ed...ar10/propagation.php

And there is some cell phone service and wireless internet access, at least in some parts of a ski resort located within the zone.

http://www.snowshoem...internet-access.aspx

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Living Room / Re: Recommend some music videos to me!
« Last post by app103 on August 10, 2013, 11:56 PM »
Not a music video, but definitely worth a listen.

I describe it on my music blog as...

If you set the controls for the heart of Peru, started chopping through the Earth (careful with that axe!), beginning in the highest mountain and kept chopping till you came out in Pompeii, in the year of 1972, let the Echoes flow through the Earth, from the past to the present, you'd have to call it Hacia Aquellos Bosques de Inmensidad, (meaning ''Toward those woods of immensity''),  a 4 track EP album, by Montibus Communitas.

http://montibuscommu...osques-de-inmensidad
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George knew he shouldn't have eaten the beans for lunch, and his classmates agreed.

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When circulation rates dropped at one newspaper, their marketing department thought up an ingenius way to increase readership.

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