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TFDocs / Re: tfdocs.com - first suggestions and criticisms
« Last post by Paul Keith on November 10, 2009, 10:07 AM »
Hmm... maybe it's because I used TFLM on wine and then opened it using Leafpad and copy-pasted the content from there but I'm getting a bad syntax error whenever I preview the form.

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TFDocs / Re: tfdocs.com - first suggestions and criticisms
« Last post by Paul Keith on November 09, 2009, 08:56 PM »
mouser, this is a reply to your post in the other thread:

I think due to lack of GUI for non-technical people like me, you could consider opting for a walkthrough instead of a help guide.

With regards to the help itself, I think it's too small and easy to miss. Maybe change the wording to "Get Started Here" and turn it into a button.

Maybe even turn it into a note like the publishing option.

(Btw even after I read the note, I can't spot where the publishing option is)

Back to why a walkthrough might be better:

I think there's really no way to make the terms come off as less technical.

The input is just way too different.

I think like markdown, the only way to introduce it to the user is to use a cheat sheet and get them to try it out.

Unlike markdown though, this goes beyond basic formatting.

The user has to redefine their expectations and preview the contents in their head.

Constantly clicking preview to verify things is just too slow.

It would be better for the non-technical users to have several templates to refer to and edit for themselves.

Something like describing the different nodes could be much simpler and much clearer explained by a form that already previews how each of the nodes look than a run-down list describing what each nodes should look like in text definition.

If this is too much trouble, maybe adding images to the help could suffice.

Definitions for nodes like "hidden" could be better saved for what the node can be used for instead of describing how the node behaves.
1028
General Software Discussion / Re: 10 things to do after installing Linux
« Last post by Paul Keith on November 09, 2009, 07:55 PM »
fodder, you do realize Innuendo quoted this part of my reply:

Really if everything works on your Linux, it works and installs faster on Linux than on Windows.

Edit:

Nevermind. I should just use the section you quoted:

But if both software are available on both OS and both software are stable on them, do you really think something that's on Fluxbox or XFCE or even Gnome is in general going to be slower than one on XP or 7?
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General Software Discussion / Re: 10 things to do after installing Linux
« Last post by Paul Keith on November 09, 2009, 06:49 PM »
I'm glad you have run every Windows & Linux program in existence so you are able to say that. No, seriously, you cannot possibly know if everything works faster on Linux than Windows. There's Windows software that there is no Linux equivalent for and vice versa. Blanket statements like yours above just cannot be made.

I don't have to know them all.

Remember you're talking for the desktop user here.

Of course if the software is available on Windows and not available on Linux you can't compare them because they don't exist.

But if both software are available on both OS and both software are stable on them, do you really think something that's on Fluxbox or XFCE or even Gnome is in general going to be slower than one on XP or 7?

Besides that, I wasn't talking about speed.

I was talking about the lack of installation due to pre-installation.

Because of the Linux model, if distroes want to have certain software installed alongside the OS, then the newbie has it as soon as they install the OS on their PC.

On Windows it isn't set up that way so every re-format is a blank slate and there's no package manager that will ease their job of finding new software.
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TFDocs / Re: tfdocs.com - share your creations
« Last post by Paul Keith on November 09, 2009, 04:37 PM »
Sorry mouser. I would have added some files but I didn't know the site is working 100% already.

Last time I tried it, I didn't know how to edit the tree. All I ended up was the large entry box for the definition, something about the xml definition, the footer and the log message.

Edit: Nevermind. I didn't realize the XML thing was supposed to be the editor.
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General Software Discussion / Re: 10 things to do after installing Linux
« Last post by Paul Keith on November 09, 2009, 04:30 PM »
@Tuxman and Innuendo, not really true.

Really if everything works on your Linux, it works and installs faster on Linux than on Windows. The problem is more things work on Windows but that's no surprise.

Contrast that with Linux in that there is a defined structure that has been painted with broad strokes, but there are lots of missing links where Linux programmers are forced to program their own solutions & those solutions are not always 100% compatible with the solutions other programmers have come up with.

Well, I'm not a developer but from this recent link made in DC, it doesn't sound that bad.

https://www.donation...ex.php?topic=20096.0

Face it, Josh, it's fun for non-Windows users to poke fun at Microsoft & the flaws of the Windows OS. Unfortunately, most of these non-Windows users haven't used a Windows computer in years & don't realize a lot of those flaws simply don't exist anymore.

Well, I hope this is either also sarcasm or not directed at me. I just re-switched from Linux last month and even before that I was a total Linux newbie when I left.

Really the comment holds up for both users on either side.

Most non-Linux users wouldn't know how many improvements there have been for Linux.

Really, how recently has a newbie friendly Live CD been accessible?

How long has Mint and PCLinuxOS redefined what newbie distroes are on Linux?

How long has Gnome Do and Adobe Air for Linux been available?

How long has Dropbox for Linux been available?

Really, unless you need troubleshooting or advanced tweaks, from the PC newbie side of the desktop what advanced steps do you really need to do on a newbie-friendly Linux that isn't also advanced on Windows unless you get a developer who made the GUI easier?

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The video is old and isn't really talking about popularity but I just had an epiphany after viewing this and I thought: Why do systems rarely address this?

http://www.youtube.c.../watch?v=LabqeJEOQyI

Software design-wise, I'm surprised how much I didn't notice the similarity between the success of productivity software and this statement.

It sounds so obvious. Some people will drop the slightest of productivity software if they can't have it on hand in mobile form. Most people will support and pay and praise commercial productivity software out of the sheer fact that the initial filtering mechanism matches with their world view and it doesn't matter how troublesome the system is for them.

Barring a new design that instantly cures their dilemma, they are more likely to push the square block into the round hole as long as the software/system continues to convince them that "it" works.

From a System PoV, it's not much of an epiphany especially for software developers. I mean you guys are the ones who meticulously track bugs and do all that monotonous complicated stuff.

You guys get it already that even a system that you're confident is 99% near stable can benefit from a bug tracker.

I'm not sure productivity systems developers get it so I'm listing it here.

Most importantly, I think it's a question to be fulfilled by groups within themselves.

I think to an extent, as open-endedly convenient modern productivity systems are, the popularity of GTD have cemented quite a few stable concepts.

Insert. Edit. Review. Almost all quality systems have that thought process now but there's no "Filter Failure" Mechanism.

It's IMO an important question that's noteworthy enough to be separated from the general "What if this system fails?" which can be commonly answered back with the equally generic "Always keep a backup of your blah-blah-blah contents outside of the new productivity system you're testing."

Mostly because it's an important step for the same reason specifying the steps of jotting down notes (even if that action is inherently accessible to us before someone told us to do it) was system altering to some.

The reality is, if a system fails without a filter failure mechanism, you're back to "trial and error" and back to giving up on the system or starting from a flawed starting point.

There's no standardized step within your system to allow the user to track and find out why they failed the system and without that, everytime someone fails your system, they're paralyzed and bogged down by the delay that it's almost a zero-sum game of whether you make the system fit you or die for a few hours/days/months.

Therefore this is an important next step in the development of productivity systems that might work better than the current systems.
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First off, I apologize if I offended anyone.

I'm currently procrastinating on a sqworl of topics containing the entire GOE but I found the week 2+3 to be mostly useful as a link nest thread for anyone who knows the basics of GTD.

The problem is most of the links in the topic are also just repeated introductions to GTD.

What I did was do a quick skim of all the topics, skipped many of the links and turned it into a separate sqworl instead of adding the topic into the full GOE sqworl:

http://sqworl.com/ob8dw8
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General Software Discussion / Re: 10 things to do after installing Linux
« Last post by Paul Keith on November 08, 2009, 09:43 PM »
True but due to Windows security almost 70% of your software is compromised unless you're a power user. :p

Seriously speaking though, on most "for newbie" distroes, 95% is also a close estimate of how many software work together.

The problem is that the 5% remain huge because of lack of support and different/advanced ways to fix things. (Example even most Windows Power Users can live without messing with the registry but in Linux, most of the fixes can require knowledge of the Linux infrastructure.)

Everything else just feels more than that because of the lack of software alternatives and software maturity.
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General Software Discussion / Re: 10 things to do after installing Linux
« Last post by Paul Keith on November 08, 2009, 12:55 PM »
I don't think it's a matter of cooperation IMO.

It's more of a matter of standardization and this is where the freedom to choose excels even if I don't know about technology.

That's why IMO iphigenie should create his own distro.

I mean look at what Clem of Linux Mint and TexStar of PCLinuxOS did.

Those distroes had no demand from the Linux community and if anything the Ubuntunites made sure they were not going to lift off (to the newbies) but they persevered and now they are tops in DistroWatch along with Ubuntu.

Choice is not the problem. Knowledgeable people truly passionate about turning Linux into a great desktop is the issue.

@Innuendo

On Windows you can run any program alongside any other & 99% of the time there will be no conflicts.

Not true. If you're using buggy software or Java application, the fact that it's less possible to make Windows consume less like Linux makes those applications annoying to stand side by side.

The same holds true for buggy codec packs, crapware installed on Windows, insecure applications open to viruses and the lot.

Distroes like Mint come better pre-packaged than a Windows OS (until you hit a problem which 99% you will and because Linux is not popular, good luck with support.)

None/Few of it (I don't really know what I'm talking about) is in any inherent infrastructure though. In fact, you'll find that for most newbies, they don't have to tweak anything that works.

(If you install Mint for example, right off the bat if everything works, you have more applications pre-installed for you including your printer and internet auto-configured for you.)

To quote a recent post I quoted:

http://woofertime.com/woof/78834

I think it’s more like this – I’m guessing though -

As it is right now, let’s say you drove a Chevy all your life. For 6 or 7 years. You learned this Chevy, you tested in the Chevy, you kept driving it. When it came to “upgrade” you decided to stick with same Chevy model, anyway. Your friends all have them, all your accessories, like the steering wheel cover, the floor mats, the (I’m stretching here) [insert Chevy-specific mod/addon here]. Needless to say, you only ever used one manufacturer’s implementation of the automobile.

So you walk into a rent-a-car shop when you’re on vacation. They have several models on display. All Chevy. There’s a small section to the side with small glossy white Hondas, but no Toyotas to be found. You haven’t even heard of Toyota at this point. So the rent-a-car guy asks you what model you want to drive.

“Chevy [Whatever]” you say.

Would you like to use one of these glossy white roadsters over here? It’s better performance, but only slightly pricier.

“No thanks, I’ll stick with what I know.”

Here’s the kicker – He doesn’t even tell you he’ll give you the Toyota model, which runs better than your Chevy, for less money than the Chevy.

Let’s say you’ve heard of this Toyota, though, through a friend. You ask about it. “Oh, we don’t have those in the store, though, but you can step right across the street, they probably have them.”

Oh, no thanks, I’ll stick with the Chevy.

Let’s say that somehow you actually got to the point where you’re sitting down in the Honda or the Toyota. You take a glance around and suppose you do spot the cruise, and A/C, and everything. You could spend only a few seconds learning how it works, and you could even ask the salesman a question… he’s right there.
But you have the option of the Chevy, still, and it is what you know and it is easily accessible. Even if it’s in your complete ability to learn how to drive this very similar car, the motivation to do so is very very low. Also, maybe you notice you can’t fit your cute fluffy headrest (I’m stretching here again) around the headrest of said new car. The salesman will give you a free alternative, but it won’t be the same, for some reason, even when it feels almost exactly the same. And why go through the trouble of using something else, when you still have what you know, right there?

Humans are lazy. They are also stubborn.

So, you walk into a Best Buy and you see a slew of Windows PCs running Windows Vista, or soon, 7. You know XP, so you know the start button, you know the context menus, you know the taskbar.
You see the Mac section. The BB employee says those are a bit pricier, but it’s got better performance. You have never heard of Linux, and the BB employee doesn’t say anything about it, despite it being free. If you ask about it, maybe he does know you can go over to a Linux distro site and download/burn a Live CD. If you actually get to a Linux or Mac desktop, sure, you might be able to figure out the GNOME desktop or Mac Dock, et al, on your own in a few short minutes. You might even have a friend, an employee, or Google to aid you as well. However, right next to you in Best Buy (or on your computer’s current partition if you’re testing a LiveCD) is what you know. What you have always known. You can’t even run some random Microsoft software that you always used. Sure, you could find an alternative, but what you already know is right here, available to you. You have no motivation to try this new system. You’re too stubborn and lazy to alter the status quo. Windows has crashed before, but you can always reboot it. You know how long it’ll take to get back online with what you know, but you fear the unknown of the desktop.

Now, this covers why someone wouldn’t switch gears from Windows to Linux or OS X as their main system.
As for, say, my dad borrowing my Ubuntu PC for only a minute to check his checking account, and having to stop and ask “How do I do this?” without looking for the Firefox icon he knows, right on my Panel, right where his own Firefox would be in Windows’ quicklaunch bar? He has me right there to tell him, I guess. Why spend 2 seconds scanning for a familiar icon, when he can just ask me to “open a browser”?
Stubbornness? Laziness?
Perhaps for him, “open a browser” means [Super], [F,I,R], [ENTER]; or perhaps it means [SUPER]+[R], [I,E], [DOWN], [ENTER]; or even [SUPER],[DOWN],[DOWN],[ENTER]. And on my machine, it’s simply *click* or [ALT]+[F2],[F,I,R,F],[ENTER].
For him, even on Windows, if you took away his run command or deleted his pinned start menu item, he might have to scroll painfully through his All Programs menu until he found it again.
If it wasn’t for start search on Vista, I know a few friend who would be pained to find anything on their PC.
My sister still doesn’t know how to use Start Search, and I have a friend with a Mac who doesn’t know how to use Spotlight.

Rather than find a new better way of doing things (like if I told her to just hit [SUPER] and then type what she wanted) she’d still go back to old habits, have trouble remembering the simplest things, and in his laziness or stubbornness stick with the slow inefficient method because it is what she knows.

tl;dr – Humans are lazy and stubborn. Not all of us, I use Linux and test alternatives. I don’t consider myself to be lazy and I’m human, so therefore I cannot hold all humans to be lazy and stubborn.
However I would guess a lot are, especially the “smart” ones. ;P

Sorry for posting it here: http://rereply.wordp...ill-be-no-conflicts/
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General Software Discussion / Re: On free speech in forums
« Last post by Paul Keith on November 08, 2009, 12:19 PM »
For a slight bit of seriousness: "free speech" is relative; there's no such thing as absolute freedom, as every action has consequences. But where is the line to be drawn? I think most people would agree that methods for child molestation isn't something we'd like to see discussed anywhere. But is removing spam posts a bad form of moderation? Is it bad to require people to reveal their affiliations if they're posting about a company or software product?

I'm no Libertarian fodder but come on, let's not insult the human race or even derail progress like that.

http://en.wikipedia....i/Liberty#Philosophy

In his book, Two Concepts of Liberty, Isaiah Berlin formally framed the differences between these two perspectives as the distinction between two opposite concepts of liberty: positive liberty and negative liberty. The latter designates a negative condition in which an individual is protected from tyranny and the arbitrary exercise of authority, while the former refers to having the means or opportunity, rather than the lack of restraint, to do things.

Even the discussion of methods of child molestation prevents child molestation because it allows individuals who have these thoughts to bring them out in the open without feeling reprimanded.

It's the stereotypical "Japan's sex games reduces sex crimes" effect.

Consequences are what make absolute freedom shine. Not everyone wants it, true but it doesn't mean it's not possible.

After all that's how nature evolved.

Thus it was possible before the dominant species said it was impossible and softened freedom up to be relative and biased towards their own.

(Hey you wanted a bit of seriousness :p)

Sorry for posting it here: http://rereply.wordp...he-line-to-be-drawn/
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General Software Discussion / Re: 10 things to do after installing Linux
« Last post by Paul Keith on November 08, 2009, 07:33 AM »
@iphigenie,

Sounds like you should develop a distro of your own. :p (I mean it!)
1038
Thanks for the clarification tinjaw and mouser.
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tinjaw, how profitable a business is banner making? (that is if you're a total newbie)

I guess I find it weird that someone would pay for a banner making app and would feel the payment justified.

I'm really ignorant of the subject but I guess I used to think that if you encounter such problems like these then it's sort of a hallmark of the artist's skill level.

Maybe I misunderstood and your girlfriend is really a top notch digital artist who just happens to not know how to measure and resize banners.
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General Software Discussion / Re: Worst Win7 reviews (ongoing)
« Last post by Paul Keith on November 07, 2009, 05:54 PM »
Does KDE also have that pop-up preview grouping option?

Haven't really touched Windows 7 but I saw a vid where it was showing how you can have two windows of the same app and when you hover on the taskbar thumbnail, it actually switches to the window your mouse is.

Not really a big deal since Compiz has expo and application switchers but I've tried looking for the option in Compiz Gnome (using Linux Mint) and I can't spot anything that resembles that.
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Apparently the method I listed here is called the Auto-Pilot schedule

My apologies for those who think I was copying a method without telling the name. I didn't know this method had a name already before I wrote it here.
1042
No. I can barely afford any now. (but I've never ever payed for shareware ever though)

Option #1: FLOSS

Many applications rarely updated. Few are rarely the best or user friendliest options.

Option #2: Piracy

Lots of public trackers going down. Even still, there are lots of popular software that aren't available. Ultra Recall, Surfulator, etc. etc.

Option #3: The Fine Devs realize that we're not buying anymore and drop the prices.

I think that's a poor strategy.

Often times when a price gets hiked, many users feel paranoid and no longer put the software on their radar.

IMO the saving grace lies in freemium cloud services with desktop sync/file exports.

They're often not the best and EverNote is generally hated but it and DropBox are probably going to be the two stable applications because of their model.

I think services should just work together to double their customer base. There are still applications that are less well known because services rarely mention each other.

If there was a cloud/desktop service tie-in even though it might be not so stable because of different developers, I think paying customers would feel more comfortable to shell out their cash than the thought of a program probably reaching it's software peak and just increasing their price because of the economy.

The only reason I think price increase will make a huge difference in sales is if the developers made a meter that states they will donate x amount of cash to so and so charity depending on the rate of buyers and that they're going to lower the price for each additional software license the customer buys.
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Copy-paste from my post here: http://forums.linuxm...amp;p=204199#p204199

Because of some problems with the original direct download link not working:

I temporarily uploaded the Linux.pdf to my Google Doc so here's the link:

https://docs.google....Q4MTM5NDli&hl=en

This should not be a direct download but a new tab will open showing a preview of the document and a download link will be available in that page.

The download link should not ask for any login unlike the Scribd document when clicking download.
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IMO reports are too much of a hassle. I just create an after-action goal/GTD context and put anything on it when an event occurs.
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The Getting Organized Experiment of 2009 / Ice Bath Method
« Last post by Paul Keith on November 05, 2009, 06:08 PM »

Source: http://calnewport.co...to-painful-projects/

The Ice Bath Method
   1. Start with a half hour brainstorming session. Go somewhere interesting, armed only with pen, paper, and caffeine. (Dog optional.)
   2. Later that same day, use the results of your brainstorming to set the foundation for one hour of hard focus.
   3. Wait until at least the next day to do your first multi-hour push on the project.

Sample:
A Difficult Talk

Bailey Next week, I’m giving the Theory Colloquium lecture here at MIT’s computer science laboratory. This means I’m facing one of the most common and most dreaded tasks of academic life: writing a talk.

Constructing good talks slides is grueling. The task is not so large that it can become a harmless background task in your life, and it’s not so small that it can be dispatched in a single inspired dash. In other words, like all medium-sized hard projects, it’s a catalyst for procrastination.

Here’s how I’m handling it…

A Morning Brainstorm

This morning, I brought a notebook, a cup of coffee, and my dog, Bailey, out into the courtyard of my apartment building. I spent a half hour under the shade of a tall maple tree working out the big ideas of the talk while simultaneously frustrating Bailey’s life ambition to fully devour a tennis ball.

Then I put the work aside and did something else.

Later this afternoon, when I arrived at my office on campus, I spent another hour building the slides for the first 10 - 15 minutes of the talk.

And that was it for today.

Tomorrow I’ll make a hard push to finish a full draft of the slides, leaving almost a full week for my standard cycle of practice talks and polishing.


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App already summed up the concept for this before: organized chaos



Not much to add here except to use copy-paste the text and use this topic as a footnote for things software productivity developers should consider.

The truth is that if your software design cannot co-exist in chaos, it's not that being productive no matter how high the ratings for it is IMO.

Source: http://calnewport.co...rganizing-your-life/

Freestyle Productivity
Having spent the last decade systematically experimenting with student organizational strategies, I’ve found that the following balance produces the most consistent results:

    * High-tech and highly-structured solutions are best for capture.
    * Low-tech and loosely-structured solutions are best for planning.

I use the term “capture” in the GTD sense of the word: a common place where all of the “stuff” in your life can be reliably stored so that your mind doesn’t have to worry about it. This includes tasks, appointments, and projects.

As the student from above noticed, it can be hard to use simple paper-based solutions for capture. The number of tasks in your life, for example, can be voluminous and soon overwhelm notebooks — transforming them into a mash of crossed out, unclear jottings.

I prefer simple online solutions that can be accessed from any computer. I use google calendar and google tasks because I can use them from my gmail account, which is the one website I know I will return to many times a day.

Though these tools are great for capturing stuff, they also turn out to be terrible for planning what to do with this stuff. Most people who’ve tried a systematic approach to planning know what I mean. (Who among us hasn’t assigned priority-based dates to our task list, only to find that we spend more time resetting deadlines than actually doing the work?)

As the student from above also discovered, a looser approach to planning works better. He used a blank notebook to organize his days. I happen to be a firm believer in the use of a plan.txt file, which is similar. As I explained in this earlier post, each Monday I record in a simple text file a plan for my upcoming week. There are no rules for this plan. Sometimes it includes pages of discussion about changing the rhythm of my work flow, other times it’s short and practical (e.g., “Monday is all about submitting this paper, Tuesday is about experimenting with the data collection tools…”).

The important point is that I trust my mind’s ability to build the type of plan that best suits the current situation. It will always outperform a rigid system.

This freestyle approach provides an answer to the quandary faced by the student from above. The reason he feels conflicted is because neither of his productivity approaches are best in isolation. He should continue to use his iPhone and fancy calendar applications to capture and wrangle the stuff in his life. At the same time, he should allow himself the flexibility to make weekly plans that are not constrained by strict rules.

A blank sheet of notebook paper, as he learned, can outperform even the fanciest scheduling system, so long as the work to be scheduled is held somewhere safe.

plan.txt
Once a week, usually on Mondays, I open a small text file named plan.txt and jot down my action plan for the week.

There are no hard rules for this plan. Some weeks it’s a few sentences. Usually, it’s a few paragraphs. Sometimes it spans multiple pages.

I tend to break down what I want to get done into the major area of my life (grad student, writer, etc.), but not always. I sometimes assign work to different days. Sometimes I don’t. On some occasions I’ll roll out a complicated scheme and on others I’ll just say “work on project X until it’s done!”

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TFDocs / Re: tfdocs.com - first suggestions and criticisms
« Last post by Paul Keith on November 04, 2009, 06:23 PM »
Thanks for the fast reply mouser.

Another thing I forgot to mention was that it isn't very obvious whether a form is private or not and how to toggle it on and off and the split summary/join summary is not very clear on what it actually does at first sight.
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TFDocs / tfdocs.com - first suggestions and criticisms
« Last post by Paul Keith on November 04, 2009, 03:39 PM »
mouser, I'd just like to start that I know nothing about online application creation and I know it's too early to suggest additional features but:

IMO in this day and age, most popular apps support Twitter logins at the minimum.

IMO in the same vein, while sending via e-mail is a well appreciated feature (really the rest would be +100 for online notetakes and don't need to be mentioned) most web service users tend to cry foul when their favorite popular sharing services like Twitter and Facebook aren't included at minimum.

IMO while the red and blue is a fitting contrast, flashing bright red is distracting in the eyes.

Finally, while I don't think mobile is the end all be all, majority of online users appear to disagree.

There seems to be a growing perception that a notetaker is nothing special if the ui isn't configured for mobile.

None of these are glaring issues for me except for the flashing red. I'm just glad that you made such a service to TFLM.

It's just that I think these words need to be said even this early no matter how unpopular and ungrateful it may come off.
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Mini-Reviews by Members / Re: Google Reader - Not for Inactive Readers
« Last post by Paul Keith on November 04, 2009, 03:25 PM »
Related article for those interested in the problem:

http://www.copyblogg....com/rss-mainstream/
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Just read the last comment now:

Just tested the "sysctl vm.mmap_min_addr" command on my Linux Mint box (not as root mind you - I'm no hacker so didnt want to risk a reg forums comment to root!)

Anyway, ot the response "vm.mmap_min_addr = 65536", not 4096.

So I guess it's fine and that therfore presumably ubuntu 9.04 (on which Mint 7 is based) is also ok.

Looks like this is a lot of fuss about nothing.

Good to see the attention Linux is getting though!
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