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Living Room / Re: At last, KeyNote done better :)
« Last post by rjbull on January 13, 2012, 03:09 PM »
It seems they released a freeware version with (slightly) limited functionality now.
I see their comments about the free version - thanks for mentioning that - but where's the file, please?  I don't see a separate file on their download page.  Or is it only one file, with different levels of unlocking?
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Living Room / Re: At last, KeyNote done better :)
« Last post by rjbull on January 13, 2012, 03:01 PM »
I think you should show a flat list of matching items. There really isn't anything else you can do, and this solution has the obvious downside of losing the hierarchical "context", but when you design things, you're always making trade-offs.
I wondered if the modern preference for live search, showing a flat list, might eat away at the older tree design...  Also about an optional display mode showing the hierarchical context rather like XYplorer's Mini Tree, which shows only the branches of the directory tree that you used recently.  In this case, showing an expanded version of the branches that contain matches, with the nodes that individually don't contain matches not so much greyed out as "lowlit" in some way.  But I don't know how easy that would be to program  :)

Whether it's instant search or a "press Enter to go" filtering, it's a very powerful feature that helps you narrow down the scope of what you're looking at and concentrate on the results.
I still like to see full Boolean searching, because of my work history of searching Derwent World Patent Index on the Dialog host system.  I've mentioned this in the thread NoteFrog Pro (clipboard information manager) - Mini-Review.

In fact, apps like RightNote (all serious note-takers) need instant search (or filtering) in two places: not just for the text of the notes, but for the tree as well. I have a couple of KeyNote files with thousands of nodes in the tree (archives of code snippets, for example). It's next to impossible to locate one node among so many; even harder to find multiple nodes that would match some imagined filter.
That much data reinforces my argument in favour of Boolean searching  ;)

I only wish I had realized all that 12 years ago :)
I never much used KeyNote (which I discovered late), because I didn't think it had searching powerful enough  :)

In RightNote and other database-backed applications there is the problem of performance. You just can't beat direct memory access for speed. With a large database, no matter how indexed, a true instant search may not work very well, as the search will introduce a perceptible delay. So it might be perfectly OK to wait until the user finishes typing the search terms and hits Enter - that way there is only one small delay instead of many (in-between pressing each key).
NoteFrog works as an array in memory. 
I sort-of agree about speed, but with Windows as slow as it is, isn't everybody conditioned enough to waiting?    And if your data set is big enough, won't it be database time anyway?
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Finished Programs / Re: SOLVED: Copy Text From Error Windows
« Last post by rjbull on January 13, 2012, 02:30 PM »
lots of people swear by the Abby Screenshot Reader http://www.abbyy.com/screenshot_reader/
which does OCR on screenshots (and takes screenshots) I havent used it myself (€30 in europe).
I use it sometimes, and think well of it.  But the price, in the UK at least, is "€ 9,95 / £ 8.99"

If you have Microsoft Office 2003 or higher version, you could try freeware JOCR.  I used it at work for a while.
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Living Room / Re: For the Facebook Haters ;)
« Last post by rjbull on January 12, 2012, 04:02 PM »
I'm particularly annoyed by the new arm-twisting (blackmailing?) going on in software circles where you're now required to "like" a piece of software on Facebook
I think someone posted a Dilbert cartoon in another thread - the gist of which was that Dilbert wanted a co-worker to become a "frienditute"  ;)
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Post New Requests Here / Re: IDEA : universal on-screen search tool
« Last post by rjbull on January 11, 2012, 08:23 AM »
Hilitext (shareware version) works on Vista's Notepad, but not on Firefox 9.
Doesn't even work properly on 3.6.15...  It worked fine on XP, but something's gone wrong since.  I seem to remember mouser saying it needed some good OS-level code, which Fanix had, but that might easily be broken by a new Windows, and I don't think Hilitext has been updated for ages.
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I didn't see that exact strings  or "Whole Words Only" were necessarily implicit  in your search
Perhaps not, but I used to search Derwent World Patent Index via the Dialog host system.  With tens of millions of complex records to search, precision was vital.  Dialog has very advanced search features, but you usually have to specify wildcards as such.  I sometimes find Google's "over-wildcarded" beahviour irritating.  I often want an exact match, and would rather have no matches than a load of false drops (maybe I should check its advanced search feature again).

Had you specified that (exact or "Whole Words Only") as a default requirement in CHS?
I don't remember so doing.  It was only when writing my post with the Boolean search that it struck me that Boolean search seems to imply whole words.

Do you really want it as a default in NF? (I wouldn't - I'd want it as a defined option, as in InfoSelect. And it would be "nice to have" in CHS.)
I'd accept it being on an Advanced Search tab, rather than the default.
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Incorporating an "or" capability in an "as you type" search capability becomes slightly impractical as it requires re-searching all list items once an "or" is incorporated - thus you whittle a list down only to begin again as an "or" is incorporated. You also need to agree on how to escape terms to easily identify the boolean components - e.g. presently, pickle "or" would search for the entire term - pickle "or" -. Interpreting an entire expression and then searching would be possible, but would negate the "search as you type" capability.
The example of a Boolean search I gave was exactly the kind of search you did in the aforementioned Memory Mate, a DOS program dated 1989.  It gave you a "command line" to do this.  AND, OR, and NOT were all reserved words.  It also had a separate Narrow command to refine your search if you got too many hits.  I see that full Boolean logic would be problematic in a "search as you type" interface, but if you hid the titles list as I mentioned before, and relied on the main searching feature, it would make more sense.  However, that seems to imply that you have to make search terms exact rather than every term a wildcard, and if you need wildcards, deliberately specify them (as * or ?).  It also depends on what sort of application you see NoteFrog becoming...

[Rant]
It becomes difficult determining what has the most value while still keeping the search capability simple and usable for your average, not power, user.
I was doing Boolean searching back in 1988.  All users had to learn fast or perish.  I find Windows dumbs things down; the average user has become defined as a complete beginner with very little brain or application.
[/Rant]
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This search term could be simplified by removing redundant terms, thus:
Was: (paper OR clip OR paperclip) AND (pen OR pencil) NOT (nuggan or nugganite)
Change to: (paper OR clip) AND (pen) NOT (nuggan)

The modified search will filter "paperclip" and "pencil" and "nugganite" in the way you want, by default.
In NF's current implementation, that's true.  But... I'm implying that a later version might/should offer exact terms, not just treat every term as a wildcard.
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Is NoteFrog indexed?  If not, how fast will search be with large databases?
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I just bought RightNote today.  It is currently my preferred information manager.
What about all the information you've saved in other programs?  Just have to guess what is where?
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Living Room / Re: At last, KeyNote done better :)
« Last post by rjbull on January 09, 2012, 10:20 AM »
I won't be registering it, since I do think the KeyNote design (can I say this? "KeyNote design"?) is quite obsolete - just compare how the search works in RightNote vs. Evernote or even CintaNotes.

Do you think that "live search," "search as you type," "walk down the list" or whatever you want to call it, is a good match to a tree-structured notekeeper?  Aren't they rather different paradigms?  If you do a live search in a tree-structured outliner, what should you show?  Only the nodes that match, or their parents that might not, and in either case, temporarily lose the tree-structured organisation?
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Are you intending to add internal hyperlinks, from note to note?

That capability exists now via a rightclick menu from the items list "Save link to item" - paste the link into an item via the rightclick item "Insert saved item link"
Ah - thanks, I'd noticed the menu item, but thought it referred to external links to files on disk.

Items may be sequenced by item number = date created, or by date updated via an "Option". Within a list, items may be grouped into one of four sub-groupings, top, high, normal and bottom.
OK, thanks.

We've found that grouping items with the most recently updated at the top along with the sub-grouping capability, provides reasonably good access for non-search conditions.
I think I agree, though I don't have much data in NoteFrog yet.  I'd still like to see the Search Control Area made more prominent.  Eventually I'd like to see more advanced Boolean searching, something of this kind:

Find:  (paper OR clip OR paperclip) AND (pen OR pencil) NOT (nuggan or nugganite)

That might become more valuable with bigger datasets.
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@berry:

Are you intending to add internal hyperlinks, from note to note?

Please, what's the function of the narrow column on the right of the titles window, see screenshot?

I've been wondering - not very coherently - about the titles list again.  I presume that NF works like EverNote and CintaNotes in that the only "organisation" of the note stack is by date.  That means that "live search" won't look quite right, because the results won't be in alphabetical order.  If the main and recommended way to access data is via the search feature, would it make sense to relegate the titles list to a popup, and to make the search feature more prominent?  That would be a radical departure from the existing look, of course.  It would also make NF a little like a Windows form of Memory Mate for DOS (a wonderful program sold first by Brown Bag and then by Broderbund), an indexed free-form notekeeper, very fast at finding things.  Many of us liked its clean simple interface, preferring it to the InfoSelect of the same era.  MM loaded with a screen blank except for the main controls at the top.  Apart from moderately powerful Boolean search, you could step through your note stack note by note.  See screenshots...  ahhh, that takes me back!  And to make the screenshots, I found my copy and ran it in a console under Vista Home Premium!
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Post New Requests Here / Re: IDEA : universal on-screen search tool
« Last post by rjbull on January 06, 2012, 03:14 PM »
that does exactly what I want BUT it's ugly, quirky and not cheap for what it is.
It also hasn't been updated for ages.  That doesn't give me a good feeling...  You can still find the last free version of Hilitext here: http://www.321downlo...page12.html#Hilitext  I don't know how well it works on recent versions of Windows.

I was hoping this might inspire someone ....
It would be nice to see an alternative!
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General Software Discussion / A New ArsClip for the New Year (2012)
« Last post by rjbull on January 06, 2012, 03:07 PM »
A New ArsClip for the New Year

ArsClip v3.2.0 has officially been released. The goal of this version was to go back to older sections of the program and clean up clutter and fix old problems. This did, however, require adding new functionality and features to alleviate some of these issues.

The Configuration window has received quite a bit of work. I've added settings that were previously only found on the Popup window and re-categorized/re-organized the options. Options should be easier to find and the more important options should appear first in the list for each page.

The default view of the popup has been simplified for new installs. This makes learning the program much easier by having much less clutter and implicitly adds value to the 'Full Mode' menu command.

External Editor support adds a convenient way to edit clips directly in the programs associated with text files and bitmaps. This automates almost all of the steps required to edit clips in your favorite editor.

Lastly, I've replaced the the Shift+Select and Ctrl+Select keystroke commands with user definable actions. This adds a quick way to execute any command normally found on the right-click menu.

Jan-04-12 9:36 PM CST

Changes in v3.2.0

New: Configuration window reworked and categorized
New: Default popup view simplified for new installs
New: User defined Shift+Select and Ctrl+Select keystroke configuration options
New: External Editor support for text and picture clips
New: Clip size shown on tooltip hint
New: Option to use Virtual Desktop for the Trigger Window
New: Tooltip Hint will grow to show larger clips when hovered for longer

Fix: Configuration displayed by default when second instance is run
Fix: Configuration screen not displayed in foreground in some instances
Fix: System menu on popup showed old icons
Fix: 'Current' popup menu item not cleared correctly
Fix: Tweaks and fixes to the Clipboard Bar window
Fix: 'Edit Selected' popup menu item was not always working in Full Mode
Fix: Wrong icon sometimes shown on Program Options popup menu item
Fix: Configuration window shown on taskbar when opened
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Post New Requests Here / Re: IDEA : universal on-screen search tool
« Last post by rjbull on January 04, 2012, 04:54 PM »
This may not be quite what you asked, but have you tried Fanix Software's Hilitext?
Hilitext - The super-powered text finder tool

Hilitext is a powerful OS-level text finder tool that works with all Windows programs to help you find what you are looking for easier and faster. Powered with an innovative text highlighting technology, Hilitext automatically scans your screen and highlights every instance of your keywords in all open desktop windows including web pages, e-mail messages and other documents to help you find information more quickly and easily. It continues to highlight all instances of your target terms automatically as you surf from web page to web page or e-mail to e-mail.
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Do you intend to offer something like EverNote does, so that one can paste part of a Web page into NoteFrog and have it look reasonably like the original, in particular, with links intact?

We tried this with ClipGuru. It was problematic primarily due to the different methods each of the various browsers utilize to render the content - Firefox renders as an approximation of HTML, IE as rich text, etc.

The maintenance of the capability across the browser base was impeding our ability to improve the base functionality of the core program. It's not currently on our implementation schedule, but we will revisit it.

Note my modifier "reasonably"  :)  Neither EverNote nor AllMyNotes seem to give a perfect rendition of a page.  However, would it be possible to have a plain text format that at least includes the links?  I.e., stripping out HTML tags but preserving URLs?
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General Software Discussion / Re: xplorer2 at Bits Du Jour soon....
« Last post by rjbull on January 04, 2012, 03:01 PM »
I remember why I don't have purchased a key for for xplorer2; although it looks like a normal Windows window, it isn't! Neither the Filebox eXtender button
I don't have xplorer2, but I have Listary, which says it works with xplorer2.  I have both Total Commander and XYplorer, and it works with both, to a greater or lesser extent.
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@berry:
  • Do you have any intention of individually "locking" notes in some way, so that they can't be inadvertently edited or deleted?
  • Do you intend to offer something like EverNote does, so that one can paste part of a Web page into NoteFrog and have it look reasonably like the original, in particular, with links intact?
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Living Room / Re: At last, KeyNote done better :)
« Last post by rjbull on January 03, 2012, 04:01 PM »
Slight difference in price, though  ;)
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It's worse than sluggish, on my system...
What is your system (in summary)?
Vista Home Premium, UAC On, user account, but that seems irrelevant since Berry's post explaining NoteFrog's disjunction with the standard Windows way of doing things.

A FAQ is now built into NoteFrog...
Sorry, I meant built-in to a stack (so you can edit/copy bits of it on an ad/hoc basis) - which I don't think it is at present.
No, I haven't seen one either.  You mean like the Help file for Horst Schaeffer's MemPad, which is itself a MemPad file.

A helpful idea with AZZ Cardfile and ListPro; their Web sites have selections of free sample files to get you started.  Berry kindly sent me a "presidents.dbs" as a sample, and it would be nice to see sample files for NoteFrog, perhaps user-contributed ones.
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I sincerely appreciate your comments as they make me aware of a disconnect between NoteFrog and some other notekeepers.
This is true, but I'm a little concerned at encouraging you down the well-trodden path, in the sense that if everybody's doing everything the same way, nobody's doing anything better.  Perhaps that's just Windows imposing standard ways of doing things that one can't really escape from.

For example, the "Home" and "End" keys are not activated in NoteFrog at present
The move the cursor to top/bottom of the list, which added to my confusion.

Thanks for the clarification!
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Living Room / Re: For the Facebook Haters ;)
« Last post by rjbull on January 02, 2012, 02:51 PM »
I'm surprised Facebook even allows that since it devalues the whole "liking" process.
Good point.  Then it becomes a bit like all the "awards" that some software sites trumpet, completely meaningless.
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Clipboard Help+Spell / Re: Program Will Not Start After Download and Install
« Last post by rjbull on January 02, 2012, 02:47 PM »
The icon is in task bar and tells me to left click for . . double left for  etc.  but clicks mean nothing.
When I load CHS and left click the tray icon, I get a popup like the first screenshot.  I hadn't used it for a few days, so there weren't any New clips in it to show on the popup.  I added some, repeated the left click, and got the list shown in the second screenshot.

Do you mean you don't see this kind of popup at all?

I just uninstalled this and was told the program was running.  Why can I not see it?
CHS normally runs in the background.  It minimises to the tray, and if you bring up the main window and press Alt-F4, it still minimises to the tray.  You'd need to right-click the tray icon and Exit, of main window, File -> Exit, to remove it from memory.  If you didn't, it would still have been in memory when you tried to uninstall.  Sometimes Windows fails to show tray icons; is that what's happened to you?

[Edit at UK time 2012-01-02, 20:46:-]
I should add: I'm running CHS as Portable, under Vista Home Premium, UAC On, from a user account.
[/Edit]
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Living Room / Re: For the Facebook Haters ;)
« Last post by rjbull on January 02, 2012, 02:17 PM »
I don't like the way that a Facebook account is becoming expected.  For example, both my local library and the church in the village have groups on Facebook.
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