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Darwin,

Thanks for your encouragement. I dare not attemp a fully-fledged DC review for I don't have the time (and, in this case, money) to try all of the big names out there. A mini-review did cross my mind initially, but then I'd have to include more comprehensive information for each service. The way I did it, I could omit information covered elsewhere (like storage size limit for free accounts and pricing), such as the big table on Lifehacker. (Edit: links added.)

That said, I do feel guilty not giving back enough after learning so much on DC. I'll try to update it and make it a mini-review when I have the time.

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I've been trying out Syncplicity, Dropbox and NomaDesk for the past few weeks, and I've learned a few things regular reviews on the web ignore. Before getting to them, however, let me briefly state what I'm looking for and what other similar products I exclude.

I'm tired of sync'ing my desktop to my notebook before leaving home, only to miss the train. (I know, I know, I shouldn't wait till the last min. to do anything.) I tried briefly to sync directly through VPN with SFFS or Beyond Compare, but the process is too slow (due to the paltry uplink bandwidth of my home adsl) to be a long term solution.

So I'm looking for something that does sync'ing, sharing and versioned backup over the internet. As a result, products/services that do only sync'ing and sharing (like Foldershare) or only backup (Mozy) are not considered.

I also exclude two very popular services--Jungle Disk and Sugarsync--for they don't have free accounts. In addition to my own family, I'm also trying to set up file sharing with my students/assistants. With JD/S3 I might be setting myself up for a $30-50 bill per month, which I can't afford. (My school isn't going to pay for the cost.) Sugarsync is probably less expensive, but it doesn't allow you to exclude certain types of files from sync'ing. I would tolerate it if it's a free service (like Dropbox).

One other concern kills another popular choice--Microsoft Live Mesh--for me: privacy. JD/S3 is the only truly trust-worthy choice for files are encrypted on the server, and you're the only one with your own private key. Most others do encrypt the files on the server, but the company keeps the keys. They depend on internal security control to prevent employees or hackers from reading your files. (Syncplicity says it keeps the keys on a separate server, not sure about the others.) Not ideal, but I can cope (by encrypting critical files myself).

MS Live Mesh nevertheless stands alone in not encrypting files on the server, relying solely on internal security measures. So despite its generous storage policy (5 GB free), I won't try it.

OK, that narrows the field to 3 contenders (I'm sure there're others; suggestions are welcome), and here are my comments:

  • Dropbox

Dropbox has been widely praised for its simple interface and good performance. It's deserved, but somewhat misleading. It's simple because it lacks flexibility its competitors provide, most notably the ability to sync more than one folder and to exclude files/folders from sync'ing. They do say both are high on their priorities, and should be delivered early next year.

  • Nomadesk

Nomadesk is relatively unknown, with a smaller user base (judging purely from the traffic of its support forum). And yet it has a great service. It doesn't sync your current files per se. Instead, it creates virtual drives wherein you could drop files you want to sync/share. Files on the virtual drives are stored locally inside an encrypted image file. It's like a Truecrypt drive with sync'ing/sharing and online backup capabilities. Very cool!

Better yet, it has a unique feature called TheftGuard. Say your notebook is stolen. You reports it and the next time that notebook tries to sync with Nomadesk, its content is erased.

Like Dropbox, it does delta-sync, so the performance is good. Better, it allows you to exclude certain types of files from sync'ing, and you could retrieve backup versions right in your file manager via context menu.

With its current implementation, however, what makes Nomadesk great is also its weakness. Since it works only as virtual drives, it means massive drive remapping for me if I want my shortcuts/symlinks and path-specific application settings to work. It also means each share has to take up a drive letter, even it's lightly used. They say they are looking into the possibility of allowing a share to be mounted as a folder instead of a drive.

Another problem: as a virtual drive, some characteristics of a physical HD partition is lost. E.g., the recycle bin doesn't work anymore. Yes, you could retrieve backup files from them, but what if you're off line?

  • Syncplicity

This is the service I ended up keeping, for now. It's Windows only, though Mac client is on the way. Linux support is unknown, though it's been repeatedly requested on their forum.

That aside, the lack of delta-sync is its only real weakness against the competition. Watch Syncplicity repeatedly uploading the whole Evernote database is a pain. I've since excluded Evernote files from sync'ing automatically, but that's not an ideal solution. They do say they're working on it, though.

There are other smaller issues, in no specific order:

1. While Syncplicity is great in allowing users to sync any folder, greater flexibility is needed in where to put a sync'ed folder and how it's named. E.g., I set up Syncplicity to sync my wife's whole data partition (D:), which isn't that big anyway. When I set up her other desktop, however, Syncplicity wouldn't allow me to use d:\ as the location for the sync'ed folder, insisting on a sub-folder, not the root. This is a huge problem for she has many file shortcuts, folder links and application settings that depends on specific paths.

The same issue arises when you share a folder with another user. My wife and I share some folders, but through Syncplicity they are named differently on our desktops. On mine, e.g., it's "xxx", on hers, it's "xxx (my_name)". Again, this breaks all the shortcuts, links and settings depending on specific paths.

My temporary workaround is to use subst and symlinks to mimic identical paths, but it's not only cumbersome, in the case of subst I loose the system Recycle Bin on the virtual drive (same problem with Nomadesk's approach).

2. Speaking of shortcuts and symlinks, Syncplicity doesn't seem to backup those. I don't need it to follow the links and fetch the original files/folders (though it would be great as an option), but I do need those shortcuts (.lnk files) and folder links sync'ed, so I could use them on another machine. (I didn't notice this problem with Dropbox or Nomadesk, but I wasn't paying attention to this when I tried them so I can't be sure.)

Correction: On closer look, Syncplicity does follow folder symlinks/junctions and sync the files within. I hope this can be made optional. Many of the folder symlinks on my system are set up to prevent duplicates, and I prefer Syncplicity to keep the links as links. File symlinks are sync'ed into zoero-byte documents at the other end. Useless, but at least I know there should be a file and its name, so I can hunt it down (since it's a link originally, there has to be a real file somewhere). Shortcuts (to files/folders alike), OTOH, are simply ignored. No trace of them on the target system at all.

3. Compared to desktop backup utilities, usability is still lacking. E.g., exclusion management could be easier. I can exclude a file from the context menu in my file manager, but not a folder. I'd also like the ability to manage exclusions from a central location (interface), so I could quickly exclude a host of files I don't want sync'ed. (For the moment I hack the "user.config" for this purpose.)

Likewise, There're folders in which I want only certain types of files sync'ed. Can't do that now. But this criticism applies to all three I've tried, and IMO Syncplicity is better of the three.

That's all for now. Hope it's useful for some, and hope to learn of others' experience.

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Rollback Rx looks awesome, but stability?  and can you push all of that data off somewhere
on a server or DVD, or is it all locked in a hidden partition on your drive?

I've used Rollback Rx on 6 machines (not all mine) for more than a year. It works by locking down files (sectors actually) when taking a snapshot, that's why it's so quick. When the system/applications want to write to a locked-down sector, RR deflects it to another free sector instead. I had doubt about its stability at first, but so far it's been very stable for me. Other people on the support forum (very inactive) have different experiences, though.

RR does allow backing up to external drives or removable media, but I haven't tried it and couldn't comment on that.

I've used Rollback Rx and while it was a good backup tool but had 2 serious limitations:

1. Unable to defragment with any other defragmenter besides Rollback's own defragmenter.

This is true, though I haven't noticed any performance/stability issues without defragging my system drive. (I do have some special arrangements for my system drive, though.)

2. Eats Disk Space! Once I installed Rollback, I started to notice that my C drive starting to shrink. No, I don't mean more used space, I mean the whole drive shrank. I was supposed to have a 60 GB HDD, yet Explorer and even Space Monger only showed it as 34GB.

This is indeed odd. It's never happened to me. Have you talked to them about it?

I then learnt that Rollback backs up differentially meaning it allows every change and file you have deleted to be restored if necessary. Thus, if you downloaded a 10GB file and deleted it, it would be deleted from your working system, but Rollback would still have it in its backup partition. I found that characteristic of Rollback to be undesirable.

This is true, and it's exactly what I desire. RR's ability to return my system back to (almost*) the same state as I took the snapshot has saved me several times, and given me great piece of mind when trying out new software or tinkering with my system.

(* The "almost" part has something to do with my specific arrangement for my system partition.)

Given the way RR works, and from user experiences (including mine), however, I guess it's best to keep the number of snapshots low (never over a dozen here). And it should be noted that the product hasn't been updated for some time.

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As long as you're just backing up data files (which is all you should be backing up, anyway), this isn't that much of a problem, imho :)
That really depends on one's specific environment and usage patterns. I do have separate system and data partitions, and I only back up data partitions. Still, not all temp files are written to the system partition. Many applications write temp files in the same folder as the data files.

If the destination is another local drive, it matters very little. If it's on another partition on the same drive, it means more wasted access time. It became noticeable if it's on a slow and busy wireless or powerline LAN connection, and even more so on a VPN over the internet.

Personally, it didn't matter that much. Other things mattered more.

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I tried MirrorFolder a few months ago (v. 4.1.192, which should be identical to the current version feature-wise according to the version history). While it's good, I gave up for the following reasons (according to my notes, so some specifics are lost; sorry.):

1. not flexible in file/folder exclusion (compared to Beyond Compare or SFFS). To its credit, MF does allow setting up "filter sets" that can be reused in different profiles. (Side note: no backup/sync software comes close to Retrospect in this regard, IMO, which unfortunately has too many flaws to recommend.)

2. can't preview what's included and what's not. (not critical if you just want to sync absolutely everything.)

3. Slow at scanning large partitions. (Probably doesn't matter with the RAID-1 mode, which has its own catch. see below.)

4. only one profile per source. This killed the deal for me. I would like to sync my main data partition to three destinations, each with different settings. Could't quite figure out a way to do it with MF.

5. delta copying not working? (maybe I was doing something wrong, and they may have fixed it in the current version.)

One more thing (not a bug since it's by design) that should be considered: as some have pointed out, the most impressive feature of MF is the real-time RAID-1 mode. But when in that mode, MF duplicates every single writes to the destination -- including, e.g., writing to temp files -- and could hamper performance if the destination is on a slow/busy connection.

I'm currently using Syncplicity. I'll say more about it (and Dropbox and other similar services) later.

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Living Room / Re: How many countries represented here on DC ?
« on: September 09, 2008, 10:14 PM »
Taiwan

I thought I was late to the party. Fortunately Taiwan hasn't been mentioned yet.

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The auto saving part can be taken care by Scrapbook (with AutoSave plugin), as I mentioned above. There are other extensions that do this as well.

As to the auto clicking part, you'll probably need the help of iMicro (also mentioned above) or something like that. I've never tried it though, so can't help you there.

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Living Room / Re: Request for suggestions: Group Bookmarking Tool
« on: September 07, 2008, 04:21 AM »
Yeah I have heard of Tagsifter before but I didn't try it because of my lack of need for Firefox bookmarks at the time I found it. You made me curious though. Could you explain what that formula means further? I rarely had to go 3 layers down a tag when searching so I really don't understand how the formula is supposed to work but it really got me interested since it sounds very much like dynamic folders to me.

Its website explains the syntax well. Usually it's enough to just type a couple of tags in the Awesomebar to get what I want, and for the most often used combinations I set them up on the bookmark toolbar with smart bookmarks (dynamic folders) I mentioned earlier.

Tagsifter is for more complicated searches. I use the "not" operator (the minus sign in the example) the most. E.g., it's easy enough with diigo (and FF) to find something tagged with "news" and "2008", but it's hard to find news "before 2008". With Tagsifter, "news - 2008" does it.

The "or" operation is also useful, like "news, (2007 + 2006)" will get me news clips from the two years.

You can't save Tagsifter searches as dynamic folders yet, though it's on the wishlist. As mentioned previously, I use FF's Smart Bookmark for dynamic folders, but it's not as flexible as Tagsifter.

Firefox community is something that I never really was able to penetrate ...

Sorry to hear that, but I wasn't really talking about the forums. I mean the Firefox extension architecture is really reaping the rewards now with all these extensions filling the holes of the main product. "Tagging" was introduced with FF3, just released in June, and in the two plus months since we've got all these nice extensions to make up for its deficiencies and more, and they're still improving. (FF3 of course started beta much earlier, but the bookmark system wasn't finalized -- with several functions scrapped -- until late, and most of the tagging-related extensions didn't -- and probably couldn't -- start showing up on AMO earlier than that.)

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Living Room / Re: Request for suggestions: Group Bookmarking Tool
« on: September 07, 2008, 12:55 AM »
Yeah, I use a variation of this by only submitting bookmarks with highlighted pages to Diigo and then transferring my non-highlighted bookmarks to incollector.

Incollector does look interesting, and it works on both Windows and Linux, just what I'm looking for. Will give a shot when I'm done with the papers.

If you still have your account, maybe we can clarify this issue up by posting to the groups. I really hate it when I make a topic there now and no one replies at all.

Sorry, no, my accounts are all closed. I also asked several questions on the forum before giving up, and got no replies. Furthermore, I did a few searches on the forum just now, and couldn't find my questions anymore. I can only infer that they kill poeple's posts after their accounts are closed. Nice way to reduce the number of negative stuff on the board.

Partitioning is something that I'm unfamiliar of or at least I never tried it because I fear I might break something and do you just backup the entire profile page?

It's easy enough with the "Computer Management" tool -- one of the Administrative Tools that comes with Windows (2000 and up). Just shrink the current volume and create a new one. While the process is non-destructive, I still back up my data each time I do this. Would be even easier (and safer) if you could get yourself another hard drive.

And I don't know what's a "profile page"? I back up the system and the various data partitions differently. Many applications (including Firefox) store their settings and data under the "Users" folder tree ("Documents and Settings" for older Windows) on C. I move them to drive D (my data partition) if I want them backed up.

I find it much harder to figure out how to backup Firefox because on Opera I just copy the individual notes/sessions/etc.

Can't compare with Opera since I don't use it anymore, but I wonder how it can be any harder. All user-specific stuff is in the profile folder. Just ignore the "cache" and copy everything else. (I put the cache on a RAMDrive, since I've more RAM than a Win32 system can use. This way the cache is wiped automatically every time I reboot the system.)

It gets more complicated if you want to pick and choose what to back up (I do), but I guess it's the same with other applications.

As for the Zotero, Scrapbook, Wired-Marker data folders, what do you name them?

Name them? Zotero & Scrapbook allow you to designate where they store the data (check the options) so that's easy. Wired-Marker doesn't provide that, so I use symlink (similar to folder junction in XP) to move the data folder.

I find I still forget this often because I haven't developed a good backup habit.

This is the real problem then. I back up my data more often and keep more copies than my system. You can always reinstall the system (time-consuming aside), but can't reinstall the data. There's no single best solution that works for everyone, for it all depends on your needs and the resources you have, but you should have a backup solution if you value your data.

Need to get back to work now. Will continue later.

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Living Room / Re: Vista suffering from FUD?
« on: September 06, 2008, 04:17 AM »
I agree with you, Carol. And if Psystar gets into legal troubles with Apple, its cost of doing business will go up, which will have to be passed to the consumers unless they can win it quickly in court.

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Living Room / Re: Request for suggestions: Group Bookmarking Tool
« on: September 06, 2008, 04:06 AM »
-The cliff's notes view that Diigo has which saves time going to a site because you can have several sites and click expand on them.

Yes, that's about the only thing I can't duplicate in Firefox right now, and that's why I said I hope it could be integrated with Firefox's bookmark system, in a way that I can look up a bookmark and see the highlighted parts in a submenu.

What I currently do is when I highlight something with Wired-Marker, I also bookmark the page and tag it with "wmark" (along with other tags). So at least now I could easily locate bookmarked pages with highlights, which is more than what diigo gave me (the "Annotated" tab often gave me nothing or no more than 3 bookmarks, while in fact I had a few dozen).

-The problem with having to deal with two different exports on two different locations.

This is easier to deal with. I've separate system and data partitions, and Firefox profile is on the data partition, which is backed up regularly. I also set Scrapbook, Zotero and Wired-Marker data folders away from the Firefox profile folder, into places where they're backed up more often than the FF profile folder tree, and made available for my search tool (Archivarius). (Though Archivarius doesn't search Wired-Marker or other sqlite db yet.)

Also since Wired Marker is Firefox only, it really leaves me chained to that browser and sometimes when Firefox is slow for me I switch to another browser and just use the Diigolet. I wonder if the Foxmarks people would be willing to add Scrapbook and Wired Marker syncing to their features if someone suggested it... a black hole is still better than no hole.

That's a good point. Though Firefox 3 is really fast on my desktop and I use it almost exclusively now, I really don't want to be tied to a particular product, either. For material related to my research, I always try to save the page locally first. (I set up proxomitron filters to help me get material on my favorite sources into shape.) But Firefox bookmarks, Scrapbook and Zotero all can export their databases, and Wired-Marker uses sqlite, a standard format. So I'm not too worried.

Still, I'm on the hunt for a better solution, as you do. If you stick to diigo, please let me know if they get improvements.

BTW, what good does it do if Foxmarks can sync Scrapbook and Wired-Marker databases? Can you use Foxmarks in browsers other than Firefox? If it's not cross-browser support but cross-computer support you're after, than there're other tools that let you sync the entire Firefox profile, I believe.

... a black hole is basically an account with bookmarks with so many different tags and so many bookmarks that you end up not being able to check back on any of them unless you want a specific one ...

Another good point, that's why I started moving my bookmarks to diigo in the first place; my firefox bookmarks were getting out of hand, and there were no tools to mass-tag them according to the folder structured then (there are now). Too bad that didn't work out for me.

Now with some good extensions, my black hole is getting in order. Tagsifter is my favorite; it allows me to filter bookmarks with something like

"tag1 - (tag2 + !tag3)"

Not possible with diigo or any other social bookmarking sites.

I also like FF3's smart bookmarks system. Though it's not very user friendly yet (some geeky tuning involved), it allows me to add dynamic folders to my bookmark toolbar. Diigo has lists, but lists are static, and it doesn't have tag bundles like delicious.

It's also easy to delete a tag from multiple bookmarks at once in Firefox -- another thing not possible with diigo.

So, on balance I like Firefox's bookmarking system (with extensions) better, and judging from what happened this summer, the speed of improvement clearly favors Firefox community as well. Diigo does keep moving, but the pace is slow.

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Living Room / Re: Vista suffering from FUD?
« on: September 06, 2008, 01:52 AM »
steeladept, thanks for the info. Looking them up in Wikipedia, it seems they have some legal issues with Apple. Hope that's taken cared of soon.

Anyway, I'll keep an eye on them, though I would prefer to build my own hardware and install everything from bare metal.

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Living Room / Re: Vista suffering from FUD?
« on: September 05, 2008, 05:03 PM »
Not if you get a Psystar machine.

I don't know how cheap it is; they don't sell it here (Taiwan).

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Living Room / Re: Vista suffering from FUD?
« on: September 05, 2008, 04:22 PM »
The KMS licensing requirement was created due to the XP era corporate keys being swapped around faster than a whore at a viking festival.

Only to see it hacked again while legit users get all the inconveniences. I'm sure they'll invent something new again, and this will go on forever. That's part of the reason why I'm going Linux. They (MS and the pirates) are having so much fun playing Tom and Jerry that I just don't think I belong in the same house.

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Living Room / Re: Vista suffering from FUD?
« on: September 05, 2008, 04:14 PM »
On a peripherally related note, check out Apple's Family Pack licence scheme on OS-X (and take note MS!)

Well, I guess they make it up with the profit from hardware, which always sells at a premium over similarly configured PC.

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Living Room / Re: Vista suffering from FUD?
« on: September 05, 2008, 03:51 PM »
Is this due to corporate/academic licensing or is this a requirement for all Vista users? If it's the latter, good to know!

I'm not an expert, but I think it's for site licensing only.

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General Software Discussion / Re: How do you manage your email?
« on: September 05, 2008, 03:49 PM »
mwang - it's because I've been posting quite a bit of drivel today...  :-[ and the post count has been updated since I made that post.

Looking at the exact same post and it now says 4455, and it suddenly dawn on me that it means the current total you've posted. Gosh! I've always thought the number refers to that very post. (I.e., it's no. xxxx from you.) That's why I felt strange. Silly me.

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General Software Discussion / Re: How do you manage your email?
« on: September 05, 2008, 03:35 PM »
You also forgot to check the number of posts you have created...
 - this was number 4444 !!!!

Hmmm, here DC says it's post no. 4453 from Darwin. Not that I have any problem with either amount though. Keep them coming indeed.

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Living Room / Re: Vista suffering from FUD?
« on: September 05, 2008, 03:30 PM »
OK - that's scary! Of course, nothing to fear if it can be resolved, but it's ridiculous to think that legitimate users (ie ME! US!) may be locked out of their systems because of flaky copyright protection software.

Flaky indeed, especially with its new KMS licensing mechanism. Basically it requires my computer to check in with a special KMS server every 3 months to be certified. Usually it's done automatically, not a problem. But problems could arise when, e.g.,

1. my notebook was near the 3-month check point when I took it out for a trip, and couldn't get internet connection again before the grace period expired; or

2. I did get internet connection in time, but some firewall craziness prevented it from connecting to the KMS server; or

3. there's no firewall problem, but the KMS server happened to go down; or

4. I did a clean restore from a backup image taken more than 3 months ago.

The last one was what actually happened here, though I never really figured out it's because the imaging was done before the first authentication or because it's done too long ago, or both. It was resolved alright -- by reinstalling everything.

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General Software Discussion / Re: How do you manage your email?
« on: September 05, 2008, 02:43 PM »
I also keep all my mail since the mid 90s, sans spam. I started out with Eudora and Agent, then OE, The Bat, Becky and now Thunderbird. (Tried Opera's M2 once, but it handled Chinese mail poorly.)

It used to be a pain to switch mail client, for converting mail database was difficult, especially when many MUA didn't really adhere to standards.

Now I no longer worry about such things, for I have a mail server for myself, on a Linux box. With IMAP, I can now retrieve mail with whatever mail client I like at the moment. I use mostly Thunderbird, but Becky still does certain things better.

I use a 3-account sets for regular mail, one public (A) and two private (B & C). A is just a front. When mail for A arrives, my server deliver it to B & C. B is for regular uses. I keep a small part of mail on it, filed into relevant folders -- family, office, etc. Most messages are discarded after being read and dealt with. Old kept messages are regularly purged. So Account B is always mean and lean, with important recent mail I could find easily.

Account C is for archive. Outgoing messages are bcc'ed to C as well. C keeps everything, one folder per year, and the folders are duplicated by Thunderbird in local folders on my desktop. They not only serve as backups (though the server is regularly backed up, too), but also allow Archivarius to index them. When I couldn't find an old message on account B, I search with Archivarius, which is very fast!

Spam is dealt with on the server, too, with Spam Assassin, which is pretty good for larger servers, but even better for a dedicated server, for it can be trained and configured very precisely.

I also create other accounts when I need to register an email address with some online service, but don't want to get spam. Mail to those addresses is never really delivered.

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Living Room / Re: Vista suffering from FUD?
« on: September 05, 2008, 02:04 PM »
Honestly, I've been running Vista64 for quite some time now, and I haven't had any of the multiple problems I've seen reported everywhere with XP64.

I envy you, then. I tried Vista64 soon after it's available to me (i.e., as soon as my school got the site license), but removed it immediately when I learned my Chinese IME didn't work on Vista, 64 or 32 alike. Without it, I can't type Chinese. Before I realized that, some other programs I used didn't work on Vista 64, either.

Now I'm using Vista 32. (The Chinese IME works with Vista 32 now, but still not for 64.) I like it better than XP in general, when it works. But I still hate it when it doesn't work -- when it suddenly decides I'm using an illegal copy and locks me out. (It happened twice here.)

So, I'm going Linux the next time I have a free week to make the switch.

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Living Room / Re: Request for suggestions: Group Bookmarking Tool
« on: September 05, 2008, 01:50 PM »
I'm curious as to how you use Wired Marker

This one is easy. Wired-Marker enables you to highlight parts on web pages, similar to the highlight tool on diigo toolbar. Like diigo, the highlights you make are saved, so it's displayed automatically when you revisit a page. Better yet, when you retrieve a saved clip from Wired-Marker, it not only loads the page, but also jumps to the highlighted part for you. Diigo doesn't do that.

The data is saved locally, so it's not sync'ed across different computers, but I like the fact that it's not dependent on diigo being up and healthy. Wired-Marker saves its data in a folder structure, similar to Scrapbook, except Scrapbook shows you just the clip without context.

Perhaps easier to show you the difference in action, using one of your posts in this thread as an example, with the 1st paragraph selected, and clipped to Scrapbook and Wired-Marker respectively:
original.png

Here are how they look like when retrieved from Scrapbook (left) and Wired-Marker (right) respectively:
scrapbook.pngwiredmarker.png

Wired-Marker, ATM, still has some rough edges. It doesn't have a toolbar button, nor easy shortcuts. You have to make highlights through context menu. (I setup my own shortcut with the help of Powerpro, so it's not too big a deal here.) It also doesn't allow you to turn off highlights temporarily as diigo does. Hopefully it can be more user-friendly in the future.

In a perfect world, I would like Wired-Marker and Scrapbook integrated with FF's bookmark system, so the "page" is bookmarked (with the page's title as title) and highlighted parts on a submenu, under one unified folder structure and one search/filter system. But that probably won't happen anytime soon, if at all.

... I made a thread here asking for an offline version of Diigo and to be honest I don't really know much about Firefox 3's bookmarking system except it has tags which I don't really understand why it's a plus.

I'm afraid you lost me here. If you don't like tagging, why did you use diigo in the first place? I guess I misunderstand you, but I can't figure it out. English is my third language after all.

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Living Room / Re: Request for suggestions: Group Bookmarking Tool
« on: September 04, 2008, 06:32 PM »
Paul, thanks for the clarification. I didn't frequent their support forum, so your information should be more accurate than mine.

As to Wired Marker and Firefox 3's bookmarking system, I'll get back to you later. It's 7:30 in the morning here, and I've gone through a sleepless night working on a big paper. Now I desperately need some sleep. I'll be back in a few hours.

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Living Room / Re: Request for suggestions: Group Bookmarking Tool
« on: September 04, 2008, 04:36 PM »
Unfortunately I gave up diigo recently. Too buggy, in short. The sum of "tagged" and "untagged" bookmarks doesn't equal the number of "all" bookmarks. Same with "public" and "private". "Annotated" bookmarks - 27, and yet counting the list manually nets 16. And many more. I finally gave up and open a new account to start afresh, no good. Try again, still no good.

I asked for help on their forum, but didn't get any. (To be fair, their support forum is better staffed than many, with two active regulars. But still questions and requests could go unanswered.) I finally called it quit. Wasted too much time on it already. It's a shame, for I like the interface and the toolbar in general.

After some digging, however, I've found I could duplicate all the features I want locally and more, with a set of Firefox extensions. Some aren't perfect. Wired-Marker is a little more cumbersome than diigo's highlight tool, and its data is stored locally, which is a plus (no worries if diigo disappear) and a minus (harder to sync) at the same time. And Tweez (for tag autocompletion) has an awkward interface.

But in general it works, and I get to tap into FF3's much improved bookmark system, which, with help from extensions, beats diigo or any other social bookmarking service in many areas. (E.g., try deleting a tag from selected bookmarks, or opening several bookmarks in tabs at the same time. The latter has been requested several times since months ago, and they keep saying it's coming.) I also get the peace of mind of one less company tracking my web usage.

None of this has anything to do with diigo's group feature. Just feel responsible to share since I recommended them earlier.

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Living Room / Re: Can you live with *just* opera?
« on: September 04, 2008, 10:38 AM »
... and it can do the 'fit to width' thing.

In Firefox, you could use the "Default FullZoom Level" or the "Glazoom" extension to achieve this.

Personally I use Default FullZoom Level.

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