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Best Text Editor / Re: UltraEdit 11 - Best text editor?

« on: May 02, 2005, 05:51 AM »

Hi mouser,
what about SourceEdit (http://www.sourceedit.com) ?
Very good free editor!!!

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Best Text Editor / Re: UltraEdit 11 - Best text editor?

« on: April 26, 2005, 02:19 AM »

"you must agree that the word wrap feature is so bad that i will not use pspad"
Yes, if this feature is very important for You , unfortunatley PsPad cannot be used yet for You. I can avoid word wrapping so I can use it.

But how do You use large code snippets into UltraEdit??? I didn't find good solution for this, just in PsPad.

If web page will be ready with decision chart I will inform You. Perhaps space for page will be necessary, thanks for help.

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Best Text Editor / Re: UltraEdit 11 - Best text editor?

« on: April 26, 2005, 01:38 AM »

Hi mouser,
Perhaps it would be a nice thing to value features in importance order. Importance can be different for everybody. It could give some objectivities to value editors. I did it for myself and it helped me to choose tools for me. What do I mean?
Features get value -1 to 5. -1 means that feature has bug, 5 point is the best. And features get an importance value, e.g. 1-3.

After it the value of the editor is SUM(Feature value * Feature importance)
My importance, and it may explain why PsPad won for me:
Using clips easily:  3   (or 4 )
Templates for new file:  3
Syntax highlighting:   3
Auto-completion:  3
Fully customizable settings (keyboards, syntax, etc...)  2
Portable settings !!! (settings should be stored in text to move to other PC easily):  3
Support (forum,...):  2
Speed:  2
Code folding:  1
Word wrapping:  1
Column mode manipulation:  2
Setting external tools:  2
Price :  1
Search/replace engine:  3
Etc...

I am working now making a decision chart where best editors are valued and user can set his importance order but I can't finish soon.

Best regards: SindbaD

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Best Text Editor / Re: UltraEdit 11 - Best text editor?

« on: April 25, 2005, 10:00 AM »

To mouser:
Thx for quick modifications.
Some notes:
- Column mode in zeus: just click on a text and move the mouse that's all.
It's useful if You look into the help and find function list. There are built-in zeus functions described. There are several functions which are not under menus, but You can assign them to shortcuts.

- About VIM again:) I see, you changed your description. E.G: Code folding. Is it not convenient? You select text block and type "zv" or select  folding from menu. Is it not convenient enough? And don't forget: In VIM You can make menu or/and toolbar buttons for everything. After that inconvenient typing is not necessary.

I am not VIM fun, and I don't want to tell You that VIM is very convenient, but if You know using of features of that You can find it more efficient than any else.
For example, I would like to use only one editor, but I have to use VIM (as second editor) for complicated and large texts because I didn't find other editors that can manage folding and highlighting as professional as that.

Of course, 2-3 weeks needed to learn usage

Regards and congratulations for your work.

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Best Text Editor / Re: UltraEdit 11 - Best text editor?

« on: April 25, 2005, 09:21 AM »

Fine,
I am curious the result. You can focus of the templates in zeus, it's convenient and in the latest version, code folding is possible.
Have a good evaluation!

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Best Text Editor / Re: UltraEdit 11 - Best text editor?

« on: April 25, 2005, 09:08 AM »

Yes.
I can give help if You need more details about next editors: VIM, PsPad, TextPad, Zeus. These are my favourites and I have experience of using them in daily routines.
Regards: SindbaD

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Best Text Editor / Re: UltraEdit 11 - Best text editor?

« on: April 25, 2005, 08:51 AM »

Hi mouser,
Reading VIM help is really painful, but sometimes necessary:)
- Column mode: if VIM is installed, in vim\doc directory read read index.txt and visual.txt
- Hex mode: switch to hex view: :%!xxd to back to normal view: :%!xxd -r
(I know it seems to be horrible, but it can be placed under a menu, and You don't need typing this always. If you have standard VIM menus, You can find it under Tools menu)
- Folding: See fold.txt. It's very easy to use.
Regards: SindbaD

PS: Could you explain what was your problem with zeus? In my opinion it's the 3rd editor (after Pspad and VIM) but I may wrong and I am interested which features You think are missing?

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Best Text Editor / Re: UltraEdit 11 - Best text editor?

« on: April 25, 2005, 08:12 AM »

I'm again:)
Now I discovered You wrote that VIM has no column mode and hex mode:(
It has both of them!!
Column mode is usable in Visual mode, hex mode also available.
Reading manual is very useful before giving false information...
Regards: SindbaD

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Best Text Editor / Re: UltraEdit 11 - Best text editor?

« on: April 25, 2005, 08:07 AM »

And one more thing:
Perhaps You don't know some editors: zeus and boxer are shareware editors but seems to be better than most of that you descriped. You should try them.
Regards: SindbaD

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Best Text Editor / Re: UltraEdit 11 - Best text editor?

« on: April 25, 2005, 08:02 AM »

Hello,
I don't agree with your review.
First: PsPad's word wrapping really has a big bug (but it's bug is coming from Synedit, the base component of PsPad, as far as I know), but PsPad has a lot of other features which are make it more useful as any other editor.
Because word wrapping can be avoided, but other features, as interactive clips, templates, scripting, etc... make the work with PsPad more fast than with other editors.

Second: Description of VIM contains some serious mistakes:
- VIM has code folding!!! Even, VIM has great code folding: You can use code folding as your convenient, it can be based on code structure, or you can set it manual, these can be nested, etc...  It is fully customizable!
- VIM search: absolutely not poor! When you use dialog box, it's simple, yes. But if you youse search/replace in command mode you have a lot of option to fine tune search and replace, even searched words can be highighted, you can jump over matched words forward/backward, you can replace them as you want, you can use reguar expressions, you can use search history, etc...
Please correct the description.
Regards: SindbaD