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Author Topic: [Feature request] FARR retina (high-dpi) aware ?  (Read 10777 times)

nitrix-ud

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[Feature request] FARR retina (high-dpi) aware ?
« on: December 13, 2016, 02:36 AM »
Hi mouser,

any chance you could make FARR "retina display" aware ?

I don't know how it works... but i would be more than enough if you could make the result list retina.

Cheers, Nitrix

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Re: [Feature request] FARR retina (high-dpi) aware ?
« Reply #1 on: December 13, 2016, 03:00 AM »
What exactly would it mean to make it retina display aware?  What would be the difference?

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Re: [Feature request] FARR retina (high-dpi) aware ?
« Reply #2 on: December 13, 2016, 03:19 AM »
one of my computer is QHD+ that is 3600*1800, so it's running at 200% dpi and FARR is pretty ugly... only the windows title is retina.

Is there a way to make the other fonts look nice ?

FARR.png[Feature request] FARR retina (high-dpi) aware ?

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Re: [Feature request] FARR retina (high-dpi) aware ?
« Reply #3 on: December 13, 2016, 03:25 AM »
Ah I see.. Ok there might be a way, by modifying the manifest to say that FARR is DPI aware and then setting custom font settings in options.

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Re: [Feature request] FARR retina (high-dpi) aware ?
« Reply #4 on: December 13, 2016, 03:34 AM »
awesome ;)

Tell me if you need me to try some beta version  :D :Thmbsup:

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Re: [Feature request] FARR retina (high-dpi) aware ?
« Reply #5 on: December 13, 2016, 04:04 AM »
I have a 2736×1824 px screen on my surface 4, not sure if that classifies as retina, but it is a higher dpi than my regular screens. Also font scaling is set to 200%.
Anywhay, this is how it looks:

Screenshot_1.png[Feature request] FARR retina (high-dpi) aware ?


Maybe you're having trouble with the theme?
It is impossible to make anything foolproof because fools are so ingenious.

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Re: [Feature request] FARR retina (high-dpi) aware ?
« Reply #6 on: December 13, 2016, 12:53 PM »
Hi skajfes,

no trouble with the theme.

As you can see on this commented capture, the fonts in FARR are not high DPI aware ("not retina")

You can see the difference (4 times more pixels...) between the FARR windows Title (drawn by windows 10) and the result list.

On the capture, behind FARR, you can see Directory Opus, which is now fully high dpi aware (since dopus 12)
see dopus doc

FARRretinaNotRetina.png[Feature request] FARR retina (high-dpi) aware ?

Having a fully high-DPI aware application does not come that easy, i know FARR is THE best software in the universe but nonetheless mouser will have some work to do  :D

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Re: [Feature request] FARR retina (high-dpi) aware ?
« Reply #7 on: December 13, 2016, 01:01 PM »
your screen is 267ppi !

i think we can call it a retina display ;) (regular screen is about 100ppi)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surface_Pro_4

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Re: [Feature request] FARR retina (high-dpi) aware ?
« Reply #8 on: December 13, 2016, 02:17 PM »
If you go into the font override options tab and set the flag to use your custom font overrides and then change the fonts to something like Arial, is there any improvement or is it still blurry?
If you exit FARR and then create a new shortcut to FARR but right-click on the shortcut property and in compatibility tab tell it to disable scaling, any improvement?

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Re: [Feature request] FARR retina (high-dpi) aware ?
« Reply #9 on: December 13, 2016, 03:51 PM »
If you go into the font override options tab and set the flag to use your custom font overrides and then change the fonts to something like Arial, is there any improvement or is it still blurry?
no improvement, of course if you take a pixel font it will look sharp because there is no anti-aliasing to begin with...

If you exit FARR and then create a new shortcut to FARR but right-click on the shortcut property and in compatibility tab tell it to disable scaling, any improvement?
Seems like the font is much nicer, looks retina to me, BUT, the other elements are not scaled properly, some tweaking can be done... like increasing the editbox height, result height, ... but maybe there are some tweaking to do on your side ?

IMG_20161213_224300.jpg[Feature request] FARR retina (high-dpi) aware ?
« Last Edit: December 13, 2016, 04:00 PM by nitrix-ud »

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Re: [Feature request] FARR retina (high-dpi) aware ?
« Reply #10 on: March 11, 2017, 05:58 AM »
I am now working on making FARR properly display on high-DPI screens.. Should be a beta in the next few days.

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Re: [Feature request] FARR retina (high-dpi) aware ?
« Reply #11 on: March 11, 2017, 06:25 AM »
I have options and other dialogs looking perfect in the beta, now just have to get the main screen controls looking right..

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Re: [Feature request] FARR retina (high-dpi) aware ?
« Reply #12 on: March 11, 2017, 08:53 AM »
I have options and other dialogs looking perfect in the beta, now just have to get the main screen controls looking right..

Excellent ! cant' wait  :Thmbsup:

you know my email mouser ;)

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Re: [Feature request] FARR retina (high-dpi) aware ?
« Reply #13 on: March 13, 2017, 11:21 AM »
High-dpi compatible beta now available:

v2.229.01
Download: here (portable zip).

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Re: [Feature request] FARR retina (high-dpi) aware ?
« Reply #14 on: March 14, 2017, 01:55 AM »
Updated Tues 3/14/17 2am

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Re: [Feature request] FARR retina (high-dpi) aware ?
« Reply #15 on: March 14, 2017, 07:59 AM »
That's excellent mouser !!  :Thmbsup: so far so good ;)

Only thing is: skins does not work anymore...

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Re: [Feature request] FARR retina (high-dpi) aware ?
« Reply #16 on: March 14, 2017, 08:13 AM »
Only thing is: skins does not work anymore...

Can you elaborate?

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Re: [Feature request] FARR retina (high-dpi) aware ?
« Reply #17 on: March 14, 2017, 08:30 AM »
custom skins does not really work...

retina computer is gone with my wife for the time being but i you need more elaboration, i will do  :P

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Re: [Feature request] FARR retina (high-dpi) aware ?
« Reply #18 on: March 14, 2017, 08:41 AM »
They seem to work on my tests, exactly as before, with one glitch -- the titlebar is shorter than one would like.

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Re: [Feature request] FARR retina (high-dpi) aware ?
« Reply #19 on: March 14, 2017, 09:01 AM »
the height of the titlebar is about half in my case (i guess exactly half since i'm running win10 at 200% dpi) and It seems that there is some text...at the beginning of the titlebar, the skin i use hide the titlebar text (maybe the text is hidden by offsetting it but with the retina it is not offseted enough ?)

I'll be more precise when i get the retina computer back ;)


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Re: [Feature request] FARR retina (high-dpi) aware ?
« Reply #20 on: March 14, 2017, 08:14 PM »
The solution to the skins is probably going to be:
1. There is a skin builder app, maybe someone can make some skins that look better at high dpi.
2. I could try to find a skin engine that is more compatible with high dpi stuff.
3. Don't use skins
4. Find a skin that looks ok with a shorter titlebar.

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Re: [Feature request] FARR retina (high-dpi) aware ?
« Reply #21 on: March 15, 2017, 01:34 AM »
1. There is a skin builder app, maybe someone can make some skins that look better at high dpi.
what is the name of the current skin builder ?

2. I could try to find a skin engine that is more compatible with high dpi stuff.
in the long term, that could be a good idea, high-dpi will be the norm in a few years

3. Don't use skins
good advice  :D

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Re: [Feature request] FARR retina (high-dpi) aware ?
« Reply #22 on: March 15, 2017, 01:41 AM »
Skin Builder download link is on this thread:
https://www.donation...ex.php?topic=13835.0

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Re: [Feature request] FARR retina (high-dpi) aware ?
« Reply #23 on: March 15, 2017, 01:47 AM »
Thanks for the link, i'll take a look when i get some time  :Thmbsup: