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meetingsense is very close to what I'm looking for.  I actually ran across it not soon after writing this email.  The other one, not so much.

I was also secretly hoping there would be a nice freeware one available.  I was also thinking that Infoqube can do this, but the only problem with that is that I would need to set it all up...it's not an out of the box solution.  Meetingsense looks really good, though.  I'm going to play with it.

This actually gives me a reason to look at outlook add-ins; something I've been wanting to do since a colleague had to make one at work.  I can't promise the timeline of it (my free time is pretty limited for such projects) but I was thinking that a simple outlook add-in that duplicates the offline portions of Meetingsense might be a real timesaver...
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Mini-Reviews by Members / Re: Mini Review of SugarSync and DropBox
« Last post by wraith808 on April 21, 2010, 01:10 PM »
wraith808 - great comparative review.  I manage support at SugarSync and you're absolutely correct regarding locked files causing problems.  To be successful backing up data files, it's important to follow the software vendor's instructions to create a data backup file and let SugarSync back up the backup file. These products typically have the ability to adjust the frequency of backups. We talk about it here.

The reason for my post was to thank you for helping us improve our knowledgebase.  While we do have an article on how to move the Magic Briefcase , we only had a KB article with links to an FAQ about the limitations of our free 2GB plan.  I agree with you that it's important information, so we've created a dedicated article on the topic.

Debbie,

Thanks for dropping by!  I actually found that KB on the Magic Briefcase- it was how I figured out how to move it.  But I thought that there would be some indication either in the extensive tutorials that you provide (which are very nice, BTW) or in the regular documentation on how to move it.  I found the KB easy enough... but to include it in the regular documentation would be nice.

Thank you also for the thoughts on backing up data files.  I didn't think about doing it in that manner- it would indeed be a great accessory to a good backup scheme in that way.  I've only used DropBox for documents, which I've found no problems with.  I also don't have the situation where I edit in more than one location at once, though.

I just did a bit more research, and from what it appears, the perfect cloud solution just isn't there.
Have you looked at JungleDisk or any of the other Amazon S3 solutions?  I'd be curious to know where you find them failing.

I actually bought a license to JungleDisk back when we had a discount on DC.  I never used it though, similarly to how I've never used a lot of the solutions I have bought licenses for (AJC Active Backup, Stardock Keep Safe, Backup4All, Acronis TrueImage).  It's a matter of getting started. 

JungleDisk also puts me off with its pricing.  When something has you paying per GB of storage, per GB transferred, per download request, per upload request... it seems like too much.  And though it may be reasonable, not knowing how many upload/download requests and such ahead of time that I'm likely to use is frankly scary.  I have no idea how much my first month will cost.

DropBox and SugarSync attracted me because of the fact that they're fire and forget.  I install the software, and if I copy something there- fine.  If not, that works too.  It took a lot of time before I actually started using DropBox... then as I did, I found myself using it more and more. SugarSync seems like it would keep that trending upward with the addtional features- so that if I want to do more I can.

SpiderOak looks like something I might look at also.
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Mini-Reviews by Members / Re: Mini Review of SugarSync and DropBox
« Last post by wraith808 on April 21, 2010, 10:02 AM »
I just did a bit more research, and from what it appears, the perfect cloud solution just isn't there.  This is the reason that I suppose a good backup solution is needed also.  It seems that the editing of files that are backed up is the problem; if the backup occurs while the file is locked, then you have the potential for a problem.  It also seems to be more problematic on Macs... from their 'package' file formats, to the different forks of files (sort of like ADS on windows), they seem to have more problems than windows or linux users.

Some more links:
http://helencrozier....hronization-service/
http://technologykil...s-bitter-aftertaste/
http://technologykil...arsync-vs-spideroak/

I think I'm going to go for a spin with SugarSync paid service so I can back up all of my computers... I'll let you know how things shake out.  So far, using DropBox under those same conditions, I haven't had a problem.
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Mini-Reviews by Members / Re: Mini Review of SugarSync and DropBox
« Last post by wraith808 on April 21, 2010, 08:36 AM »
i've been using DropBox for a while (with some of the poweruser tips you'll find online) and considered using SugarSync to fill in some of the gaps. i decided not to after reading quite a few people complaining about SugarSync corrupting data. i suppose this must be rare but it was enough to make me decide against even giving it a test run.

Where did you find these complaints?  I'm almost ready to sign up for SugarSync, and I'd like to see these... it might change my decision.
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Man... I wish that I could attend.  I love playing boardgames of all stripes, but since I've moved, I haven't been able to play any.
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Hmmm... I was looking at upgrading to Fences Pro.  I need to do a bit more investigation, because impulse running all the time is a no-go for me on the purchase.  Steam, I can live with, especially since it's just for games, and the app itself is pretty non-intrusive (and you can run games directly without steam running first).  But impulse just sucks for an always on application.  It's too bloated.  And for the most part I like Stardock and its applications.
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(It's the first time I've ever asked for a refund. I refuse to buy Steam games, too, but this is worse - especially that it seems Fences will not even run without Impulse running, too. Is that right, could anyone confirm?)


I use Fences (not Pro) and ObjectDock Pro without Impulse running.  I also installed both without having to install Impulse, but that was a while ago (October 2009) so I'm not sure if this has changed.
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Mini-Reviews by Members / Mini Review of SugarSync and DropBox
« Last post by wraith808 on April 20, 2010, 04:31 PM »
This review is a comparative look at two cloud synchronizers - SugarSync and DropBox.

Basic Info

App NameSugarSync
App URLhttp://www.sugarsync.com
App Version Reviewed1.7.7
Test System SpecsWindows XP/iPhone 3GS
Supported OSesWindows (XP/Vista/7), iPhone, Mac, Blackberry, Windows Mobile (Beta)
Support MethodsForum, Knowledge Base, Live Chat (Phone Support contract is $99/year)
Pricing SchemeFree version (2GB/2 Computers) - Free.  All others have unlimited computer sync.  30GB - $4.99/month, 60GB - $9.99/month, 100GB - $14.99/month, 250GB - $24.99/month.  Yearly subscriptions available at a discount.
Screencast Video URLhttp://www.sugarsync.com/videos/

App NameDropBox
App URLhttp://www.dropbox.com
App Version Reviewed0.7.110
Test System SpecsWindows XP/iPhone 3GS
Supported OSesWindows (XP/Vista/7), iPhone, Mac, Linux
Support MethodsForum, Knowledge Base, Ticket System
Pricing SchemeFree version (2GB) - Free.  50GB - $9.99/month, 100GB - $19.99/month
Screencast Video URLhttp://www.dropbox.com/

SCREENSHOT OF APP INTERFACE HERE

SugarSyncWebInterface02.png
SugarSync Web Interface

SugarSyncDesktopInterface01.png
SugarSync Desktop Interface

DropboxWebInterface.png
Dropbox Web Interface

Intro:

With so many things moving to the cloud, and so many having more than one digital device, it becomes an issue to keep everything in sync, and to have access to everything when you need it.  Trying to satisfy these requirements are several cloud-based continuous backup services.  I became aware of Dropbox back when it was in beta, and was able to score an invite.  From the moment I did, I was hooked.  It became very much a part of my computing experience, and I was always looking for new ways to use it.  But for all of that, I never saw a reason to pay for it, figuring that I could keep the documents that I needed within the 2GB limit.  This became a bit harder when I purchased my iPhone, using DropBox as a way to supplement my storage on the device through their iPhone app.  One day I was listening to the AppSlappy podcast, and they reviewed SugarSync as an alternative to MobleMe.  I was intrigued, especially since SugarSync also had a free version.  So I tried it.  During my trial of SugarSync, I began to see DropBox in a new light.  SugarSync had many more features.  But when I started to really implement it, I began to see that it was give and take, so decided to write this comparative review.


Who is this app designed for:

Both of these apps are designed for the mobile user that utilizes more than one device in differing locations, and also wants to access vital documents on the go.  They seamlessly back up any information not only to the provider's servers, but to all interlinked computers.  I suppose you could also use it for a backup scheme, but I don't think I'd recommend it as your primary backup- more as an auxiliary to whatever backup scheme you choose.  The interesting thing that is a useful feature of both is that deleted files and versions of files can also be archived, so you can use this is a rudimentary versioning system for your documents.

The Good
Dropbox is pretty much an install and forget type of application.  There's nothing to configure, other than the location of the Dropbox if you don't want it to be in the default location.  Dropbox also has an option for LAN sync, which lets it sync much faster if the computers are on the same LAN by copying directly rather than up to the server then back down to the other computer.  There's no desktop interface to be concerned with, and the web interface is minimal, and functional.  You can also designate certain folders as shared, and create automatic photo galleries by sharing folders with photos.

DropboxWebInterface.png

The iPhone interface is also pretty minimal, and common file types are viewable from within the dropbox interface.

Sugarsync has an install and forget mode, where you use the magic briefcase only.  That folder is automatically synced between the computers that have the software installed.  SugarSync also has the ability to sync arbitrary folders that are not in the magic briefcase folder, and even more, to set up sync profiles, so that your work files are only synced to your work computers and your personal files are only synced to your personal computers.

SugarSyncDesktopInterface02.png

Because of this, computers are recognized by SugarSync, even in the web interface, and the files that are available on each computer are displayed.

SugarSyncWebInterface01.png

As with DropBox, you can share folders and photo albums, but you can also get links that expire to send to those that you want to have temporary access to a certain files.  The expiration of the link is very welcome, so you don't have to be concerned with what links are still out there, and whether files are secure over time.  You can also send the file itself.  The status of each of your files is also available, and a transfer queue is available while files are being downloaded or uploaded, so you can see what operations SugarSync is performing.

The iPhone interface is a bit more detailed than the DropBox interface, and allows you to share specific documents by links just as with the desktop interface.

The needs improvement section
DropBox is simple, and it works.  There aren't any real pitfalls with the service as is.  It is just not as full featured as the other service reviewed here.

SugarSync does have a few minor issues.  The manner of moving the magic briefcase folder isn't as intuitive as it is with DropBox.  Once you know how to move the briefcase- by cutting and pasting the folder- it is actually easier than DropBox.  But I had to search to find that information; it is not included in the documentation.  The free client has a serious limitation that I was unaware of, and that you are not openly briefed about when using it; that is, it can only sync between two desktops.  The mobile clients are not considered for this purpose, but this is a limitation that should be openly disclosed considering the fact that DropBox allows you to sync between multiple clients.

Why I think you should use this product

If you are able to place everything that you need in a single folder, and don't mind that it syncs everything across every computer that you install it on, and 2GB is good enough for you, dropbox is definitely for you.  It's a lot simpler in its approach, and if you don't need the advanced functionality, it's basically install it and go.

If you are looking for a free alternative, and don't have more than 2 computers to sync, then give SugarSync a look.  It's definitely more full featured, and the abilities it gives you to sync different folders to different computers, and to sync any folder are very powerful.  I also like the fact that you can send out expiring links; it's one of my favorite features!

As far as paid alternatives go, I definitely think that SugarSync has the edge.  The plans are comparable in space, but SugarSync costs less across the board.  Add to that the fact that they have a $4.99 plan and DropBox does not, and they are the choice to beat.

How does it compare to similar apps

From http://www.sugarsync...sync_comparison.html

SugarSyncComparison.png

Even though this is from SugarSync.com, doing a quick run-through of the represented services, this seems like a decently objective view of the services.

http://technologykil...ropbox-vs-sugarsync/
http://www.wordinpro...ugarsync-vs-dropbox/


Conclusions

Both products are slick and fill an area that becomes quickly a need instead of a nice to have when you start really using them.  The difference is the implementation.  As a free service, I'd give dropbox a 4.5 out of 5, and SugarSync a 4 out of 5.  As a paid service, those ratings flip flop.  But in either case, you can't go wrong trying them.  I recommend Dropbox whole heartedly- I've been using it for over a year with no problems.  The problems that I've had just in the little while that I've had SugarSync as a paid service and started trying to use it make me not be able to recommend it, no matter what the features are.

UPDATE: Added a couple of other comparative reviews.

UPDATE: Removed recommendation for SugarSync.  See https://www.donation....msg204037#msg204037
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Living Room / Re: Pure Boredom Post: The 3 Word Story Game
« Last post by wraith808 on April 20, 2010, 01:22 PM »
cybering fat men
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DC Gamer Club / Re: Sniper Elite for $2 on Steam
« Last post by wraith808 on April 20, 2010, 10:02 AM »
Sniper Elite... now with less DRM... on GoG.com.

It's 9.99, but has no DRM.  If I didn't already have it on Steam (and for $2.50 natch), I would snap it up.

http://www.gog.com/e...er_elite_berlin_1945
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Living Room / Re: stackoverflow-like site for DC. Would it work? Now free
« Last post by wraith808 on April 19, 2010, 08:19 PM »
I didn't see a problem either, so I'm curious...

As to which I prefer- QnA or Discussion, as the questioned, discussion tends to have more possibilities of knowledge being exchanged than QnA.  But as the questioner, it depends on the time-sensitivity of the question, and the nature of the question.
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Living Room / Re: stackoverflow-like site for DC. Would it work? Now free
« Last post by wraith808 on April 19, 2010, 05:56 PM »
Do you tend to prefer private message exchanges (or focused/expert's colloquies) when sharing/discussing technical information over the more unstructured discussion mechanisms like open forums?

Actually, I like the discussion format.  I just see where it can be discouraging and/or frustrating to the user who's just trying to find the answer to a question and has to repeatedly attempt searches to try to find the answer they seek.  I've been in that position, and it's no fun.
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Living Room / Re: Bit.ly is Harmful to Your Reputation
« Last post by wraith808 on April 19, 2010, 04:27 PM »
Let's not be silly, of course you can come up with an example greater than the 160 limit, that's hardly the point.

I disagree, and I was not trying to be silly.  That is the point, and that wasn't really an isolated example.  Without URL shortening, it's difficult to come up with a tweet that makes sense.  That was a minimalistic approach to making a tweet IMO, which can many times be an art form akin to making a haiku.  And I've had this problem several times when trying to utilize full URLs in tweets.  Those that don't use twitter won't understand, but I'm sure that if you do, you've had the same problem.
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Living Room / Re: stackoverflow-like site for DC. Would it work? Now free
« Last post by wraith808 on April 19, 2010, 04:24 PM »
I guess that would all come down to whether you're participating in the Supplicant or Symposium mode.

(BTW - Glad to see some Sages finally PM-ed you your answers. Sages love to use "back channels" to get things done. It's one of their characteristics. PMs and 'guru level' IRC chats are big favs when you're a Sage. ;D )

Ummm... maybe I didn't make myself clear?  It was people coming to the forums for the first time that saw me comment in a thread that PM'd me for answers, instead of me doing the asking...  :shrugs:
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But if you do insist on going the cookbook route, at least be sure you read all the instructions - and follow them to the letter... :mrgreen:

There's also imaging software to image your machine before you make wholesale changes so you can get back to where you are.  With them being so useable now, I just don't see how you don't have an image if you're getting ready to do something that you *know* you don't understand...
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Site/Forum Features / Re: NANY 2011 :: A New Concept -- Have your say!
« Last post by wraith808 on April 19, 2010, 03:00 PM »
I have real concerns that trying to do 2 similar events like this wouldn't spread ourselves too thin.

Another alternative we've discussed is for NANY to be an end of year celebration of ALL the new applications created over the last year by DC members.. this would include coding snacks and large applications, anything created in the last year.  It would be more of a showcase and celebration of what members have created.

I think that making the event focus on the whole year does exactly what you are trying not to do- spread things a bit thin.  Perhaps if we had another volunteer coordinator if it was too much for Perry, we could have things like app suggests- 2 cycles of apps per year, with one just starting as the other is winding down.  It *does* seem like traffic on DC picks up during the NANY season (though I could be wrong).  If it does, isn't NANY driving the growth of DC?
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Living Room / Re: Bit.ly is Harmful to Your Reputation
« Last post by wraith808 on April 19, 2010, 02:28 PM »
An interesting discussion on URL shorteners on DonationCoder: Bit.ly is Harmful to Your Reputation

And, hey, look, a mere 98 characters line (170 internally, including BBcode and HTTP link).


Ummm... that's not twitterable, which is what my point was.  The arbitrary limit set by twitter at 160 characters is what made these url shorteners gain traction.  They were around before, but no where near as ubiquitous as they seem to have become since twitter.  I'm not advocating their use anywhere else in particular.  I personally never used them until I started using twitter, and it became easier to use the same URL in all mediums rather than switch up for one contact method.
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Living Room / Re: Bit.ly is Harmful to Your Reputation
« Last post by wraith808 on April 19, 2010, 01:16 PM »
It would be interesting to see a survey of tweets with shortened URLs. I bet the vast majority would still fit within the 160 chars limit even with the long URL.

Of course I have no data to back that up, it's just a feeling ;)

Of course, people don't just tweet the URL... or why do it using twitter?   As micro-blogging implies, it's commentary on the URL that adds value.  Fitting said commentary + the URL (and sometimes even the shortened URL) is at times a challenge.

frex - what I would consider a miniminalist tweet about this conversation -

An interesting discussion on URL shorteners on DonationCoder - Bit.ly is Harmful to Your Reputation - https://www.donation...ndex.php?topic=22478

Clocks in at over 160 by 22 characters.
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Living Room / Re: Bit.ly is Harmful to Your Reputation
« Last post by wraith808 on April 19, 2010, 11:09 AM »
One of the reasons that bit.ly is in such widespread use is
People are lazy, and deluded into thinking security is the other guys problem. Regardless of how chronically incredibly dangerous this practice is ~OMG~ it's Fun! - Because the whole point of the internet is FaceBook, marketing & vanity...

Yes, I'm a bit cranky today.  :)

:huh:

Ever consider the limitation of twitter and what it does to URLs.  Isn't this 'twitter' craze partly to blame for that?  Or are they absolved because it has to be the lazy, deluded people's fault?

There's all sorts of dangers on the internet... shortening URLs I don't think falls too soundly in that category.  It's in the implementation (as ScanCode just pointed out above) not the practice.
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Living Room / Re: Bit.ly is Harmful to Your Reputation
« Last post by wraith808 on April 19, 2010, 10:13 AM »
Problem seems to me to be mostly with the automation - because they're not automatically checking to see if the link is long enough to need shortening. (i.e. running www.wdc.com through bit.ly helps who?)

if(strlen(link) < Screen_Width_of_Typical_Cell_Phone) {
  Skip_it;
}

One of the reasons that bit.ly is in such widespread use is that it gives you other information about the link, i.e. how many times it was clicked, how many times was your version of the URL clicked vs others that link to it, how many were from twitter and how many from other places.  Nothing identifiable, but some people might use that, I suppose...
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Site/Forum Features / Re: NANY 2011 :: A New Concept -- Have your say!
« Last post by wraith808 on April 19, 2010, 09:21 AM »
What resources are required for NANY?  Have you quantified what it truly takes to run the event?

The two event system may work on 6 month cycles/  This all depends on the resource to run an event.

Something like:
NANY 20## - The event as it is with the fast paced effoft for developers to complete their apps.  This is what forced me to finish an idea I had for a long time - now that idea is being turned into a business because the NANY event gave me a kick in the ass to complete it
Summer Blockbuster 20## - The new first class event as proposed.

Basically offer a Winter and Summer event.

I like this, rather than diluting the current NANY.  It seems like other than NANY as of late, we don't have any other contests/promotions during the year.  I get caught up in day-to-day work, so don't really work on my software as much as I would like, but these kinds of things give me impetus.  It's not about the prize as much as it's about the prodding to me.
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Living Room / Re: stackoverflow-like site for DC. Would it work? Now free
« Last post by wraith808 on April 19, 2010, 08:21 AM »
Perhaps a way to tag forum threads so that they're associated with particular wiki entries, e.g. "File managers" would have about 50 threads attached to it. ;) Then as you're reading a thread, if a new one gets mentioned, you just select the text that describes it, hit "copy to wiki" and it puts it over there, ready for you to edit further and integrate it into existing content. The biggest problem I see with that approach is attribution and copyright...

This.  That's what I meant about a SO question creating a forum thread (or vice versa).  You have your place to discuss the issue, and your place to have a question and answer.  I've had more than one that someone has backdoored me a question by PM because the forum was too noisy.  Yes, the conversational approach is nice, but when you're searching for an answer, it makes the forum seem too noisy, and not helpful.
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PS - Above I said "First..." and then never got to "second"   :-[  Second, if this was considered a "Large" font then why wouldn’t any other of the 200+ programs installed have the same problem?

If a developer sets their labels as not autosized, but sized based on their layout and you uniformly switch the font size, this will happen.  In older versions of windows, it was large fonts vs regular fonts- I guess windows 7 lets you change that with greater granularity. 

You can easily test by changing your fonts to 100% and seeing if it works.  And by large, I meant larger than normal.  If you code your UI based on the font being 10px then someone sets it to say... 115%, then that same letter that was 10px before will be 11.5px.  And if you set your label to something other than autosize, then for a 10 word label, the text will overflow by 10*1.5px = 15px- large enough to notice.

As I said, I'm not saying this isn't their fault- but I bet that if you tried to switch to 100% and tested their application, you wouldn't see this problem.  A bit of information you can pass onto the developer...

It's up to you whether you want to try it by setting your fonts momentarily to 100% and seeing if that is the case and then passing it on to the developer- but things like that tend to get addressed (or you can see the developer's colors) if you give concrete examples to back up your claim rather than the generic "I'm seeing X" message IME.
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That is considered 'large' fonts.  If a developer sets their labels as not autosized, but sized based on their layout and you uniformly switch the font size, this will happen.  In older versions of windows, it was large fonts vs regular fonts- I guess windows 7 lets you change that with greater granularity.  As I said, I'm not saying this isn't their fault- but I bet that if you tried to switch to 100% and tested their application, you wouldn't see this problem.  A bit of information you can pass onto the developer...
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First, the UI doesn’t seem to work to well on my computer here. The text is overly large and therefore a lot of it is cut off at the end of each line. Also, in most cases the bottom ~10% of all text is cut off. See the screen caps below.

Do you use large fonts?  That seems to be the problem from the screenshots that you post.  Many apps aren't developed for large fonts, so when viewed in them, are quite ugly.  It's an easy thing to get around, and I know .NET apps don't seem to have that problem anymore, but in many languages, the developer still has to do it.
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