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Living Room / Re: Apple instigates Police Raid over lost/stolen iPhone 4G
« Last post by wraith808 on April 30, 2010, 12:44 PM »
So it still worked... they just didn't have an image to restore because iPhone 4.0 OS is not out yet.

Except it didn't, because they didn't have the means to make it work. Only Apple did.

I can play too...

Except it will, once the 4.0 OS is released.  And it did, in that the device itself worked.  They just didn't have the software portion.  What value is on the software, and what value is on the hardware?  As I said... semantics.
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General Software Discussion / Re: 15 Hacks Every Dropbox User Should Know
« Last post by wraith808 on April 30, 2010, 12:43 PM »
I don't know about that whole truecrypt thing and it syncing on the parts of files that have changed.  I haven't tried syncing anything truly large with the service.  Has anyone else done so?

I'm not sure about that either. But I saw someone in the comments say that you have to be careful with TrueCrypt and DropBox because the TC volume is only updated after it has been dismounted.

So if you forgot to dismount the volume before you left, you won't have the updated files synced.

I wonder about that... if you forget to to dismount it, then use it in the other location, then dismount in both locations, how does it resolve the differences... especially in an encrypted format like this?  And I still have doubts that it can sync the delta of the volume, especially considering that it's encrypted.
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Developer's Corner / Re: C# Books (Recomendations)
« Last post by wraith808 on April 30, 2010, 12:41 PM »
  • Practical .NET2 and C#2 - Much more in-depth information that will give you a better understanding of how C# works internally, and how it interacts with the .Net platform. This is how I got to really understand closures, for example.

I started to recommend that one because it's just *so* good... but with the changes introduced in C# 3 and .NET 3 and 3.5, I was on the fence as to whether it was a fair recommendation still.  I also like C# Design Patterns, but didn't recommend it for the same reasons.
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Living Room / Re: Apple instigates Police Raid over lost/stolen iPhone 4G
« Last post by wraith808 on April 30, 2010, 10:46 AM »
It was just wiped.  From the original gizmodo article:

This iPhone behaves exactly like an iPhone does when connected to a computer, with the proper boot sequence and "connect to iTunes" restore functionality. Xcode and iTunes both see this as an iPhone. Mac OS X's System Profiler also reports this as an iPhone in restore mode, which is a natural consequence of remotely wiping the phone, but report different  product identifiers (both CPID and CPRV) than either the 3G or the 3GS.

So it still worked... they just didn't have an image to restore because iPhone 4.0 OS is not out yet.

According to the person who found it, this iPhone was running iPhone OS 4.0 before the iPhone 4.0 announcement. The person was able to play with it and see the iPhone 4.0 features. Then, Apple remotely killed the phone before we got access to it. We were unable to restore because each firmware is device specific—3GS firmware only loads on 3GS devices—and the there are no firmwares available for this unreleased phone. Which is another clue to its authenticity.

All from URL http://gizmodo.com/5...s-apples-next-iphone to give the reference.

But all of this is neither here nor there.  To try to value this at under $100 is purest redirection, and if they tried to do it in court would be lame and quickly get them slapped by the judge (figuratively of course).  All parties in this can share in the blame, because all were wrong, IMO.  Like that other article said:

a) Gawker/Nick Denton = guilty
b) Jason Chen = guilty (of being gullible)
c) iPhone seller = guilty
d) Using Shield Law defense = lame
e) Gestapo Cops = very lame

No matter that he was an opposing blogger or not, doesn't mean that he can't make relevant points.  And IMO they are totally relevant.

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General Software Discussion / Re: 15 Hacks Every Dropbox User Should Know
« Last post by wraith808 on April 30, 2010, 10:39 AM »
More dropbox goodness from Lifehacker:

The Cleverest Ways to Use Dropbox That You're Not Using

http://lifehacker.co...that-youre-not-using

I don't know about that whole truecrypt thing and it syncing on the parts of files that have changed.  I haven't tried syncing anything truly large with the service.  Has anyone else done so?
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Living Room / Re: Apple instigates Police Raid over lost/stolen iPhone 4G
« Last post by wraith808 on April 30, 2010, 09:08 AM »
For a prototype iPhone that's fully workable and not akin to the used market at all?  And has extra features that you won't find in any iPhone?  I defy you to find any judge that would value that at less than $100.

Except it was quickly not workable at all. So used phone of unknown origin, that doesn't work. Value low.

Where do you get that it was not workable?  They wiped the data remotely.  You can do the same thing with MobileMe.  It doesn't make the phone unuseable- it just wipes it to remove your personal data.

From http://www.appleinsi...te_wipe_service.html
A third button, Remote Wipe, says it "will permanently delete all media and data on your iPhone, restoring it to factory settings. This will not suspend your wireless service. Once wiped, your iPhone will no longer be able to display messages or be located".

Apple's support page notes "If the iPhone or iPod touch is online (turned on and connected to a data network such as Edge, 3G, or Wi-Fi), information deletion begins within seconds, and a confirmation email that the remote wipe has begun is sent to your MobileMe email account. If the iPhone or iPod touch is offline (not turned on or not connected to a data network), the information will be deleted the next time the device is online."

The site also points out, "If you later find your iPhone or iPod touch after it has been erased, you can restore your information by connecting the device to your computer and restoring it from a previous backup using iTunes." The page also warned, "If you don’t expect to later find your iPhone, you should suspend your wireless service through your wireless service provider. If you don’t, you’ll continue to be responsible for any phone calls or other charges incurred."
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General Software Discussion / Re: Review of 7 Cloud Storage Services
« Last post by wraith808 on April 29, 2010, 08:59 PM »
^ It looked interesting from the interface perspective, but I couldn't get it running because of restrictions at my jobsite.  What were the negatives?
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Living Room / Re: Apple instigates Police Raid over lost/stolen iPhone 4G
« Last post by wraith808 on April 29, 2010, 08:57 PM »

It's interesting that the police seem to be going after Gizmodo rather than the original finder.

Just because the focus has only so far been on Chen doesn't mean they aren't looking at the original finder- indeed, that could be one of the reasons behind the seizure.
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Developer's Corner / Re: C# Books (Recomendations)
« Last post by wraith808 on April 29, 2010, 08:55 PM »
Ummm... he said C# :)

I've been purchasing the manning books as of late, and all of them have been good.

I can recommend without reservation

Also of note are Essential C# 3.0 and Professional C# 2008.
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Living Room / Re: Apple instigates Police Raid over lost/stolen iPhone 4G
« Last post by wraith808 on April 29, 2010, 04:40 PM »
The legal definition of theft in this case is defined by California code- and it is a bit wider than your comment takes into account.  There is a legal responsibility in California to return found material.  That's where theft and possibly felony actions come into play.  Were they wrong for their actions in their raid?  Yes.  But does this make Giz, Gawker, and Chen less wrong for what they did under the law?  Money is on no right now...
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Living Room / Re: Apple instigates Police Raid over lost/stolen iPhone 4G
« Last post by wraith808 on April 29, 2010, 09:43 AM »
Sorry, but I'm going to have to insist on this point. I really don't think that it is up for debate.

Value in a legal sense cannot be determined by a single individual/agent/company. If it were, in any given lawsuit, people could value their time at astronomical amounts. However, this doesn't happen, and the courts do not recognize those sorts of claims.

Like I mentioned above, just because you value something, doesn't mean that it actually has that value in the broad sense of the term.
For a prototype iPhone that's fully workable and not akin to the used market at all?  And has extra features that you won't find in any iPhone?  I defy you to find any judge that would value that at less than $100.

If I leave something anywhere, and someone sells it, I would feel violated.

I agree. But I think this is a little bit different.

For instance, if you lost something and the person who found it tried to return it to you--and you refused to take it back--would that change your opinion about them selling it?

This is being used as a reasoning in a lot of posts in this thread... so reference?  And even so- why call tech support?  Why not call apple and ask for the person?  Even after the phone was wiped, he knew the person's name... else why did it appear in the article?

I'm not sure that he knew the person's name. All of this came out well after the fact. The articles had the benefit of hindsight. For the specific details, I have not seen anything in depth to support that he knew or did not know the name of the engineer that lost the phone. If anyone has seen that, it would be nice if they could post a link.

But to be honest, I seriously doubt that most people know how to get somebody's name out of a phone. Even if it wasn't wiped quickly, and he had time to check, I don't know that he would have been able to find the guys name.


From http://gizmodo.com/5...lost-the-next-iphone
During that time, he played with it. It seemed like a normal iPhone. "I thought it was just an iPhone 3GS," he told me in a telephone interview. "It just looked like one. I tried the camera, but it crashed three times." The iPhone didn't seem to have any special features, just two bar codes stuck on its back: 8800601pex1 and N90_DVT_GE4X_0493. Next to the volume keys there was another sticker: iPhone SWE-L200221. Apart from that, just six pages of applications. One of them was Facebook. And there, on the Facebook screen, was the Apple engineer, Gray Powell.

He knew.  And from the same page, something about the fact that he did apparently call Apple about the phone- I guess I overlooked it.  But yes, he definitely knew the person's name.  And with that information, the fact that he called several numbers seems more disingenuous.  I'd call their office and ask for the guy.  I'm sure at some point you can call and get a person on the phone... and knowing his facebook page, he could have messaged the guy on facebook...  seems like CYA to me.


UPDATE: An interesting analysis... and some more links

http://www.onenewspa...OLEN-iPhone-Case.htm
http://www.guardian....zmodo-paid-iphone-4g
http://www.pcmag.com...CRSS03069TX1K0001121
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General Software Discussion / Review of 7 Cloud Storage Services
« Last post by wraith808 on April 29, 2010, 09:36 AM »
Considering I just did a review of SugarSync vs. Dropbox, I thought this review on Tom's very timely-

http://www.tomsguide...ing,review-1539.html

There's actually no overlap with my review, as the author reviews:
  • Box.net
  • Carbonite
  • Google
  • i365 EVault SaaS
  • MediaFire Pro
  • Microsoft Live Mesh
  • Microsoft SkyDrive

For the short synopsis, it appears that they don't really favor any above the other.  I tried mesh for my purposes, but it's not accessible from work which immediately voided that option for me.
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Living Room / Re: Apple instigates Police Raid over lost/stolen iPhone 4G
« Last post by wraith808 on April 29, 2010, 08:35 AM »
If I leave something anywhere, and someone sells it, I would feel violated.

I agree. But I think this is a little bit different.

For instance, if you lost something and the person who found it tried to return it to you--and you refused to take it back--would that change your opinion about them selling it?

This is being used as a reasoning in a lot of posts in this thread... so reference?  And even so- why call tech support?  Why not call apple and ask for the person?  Even after the phone was wiped, he knew the person's name... else why did it appear in the article?
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DC Gamer Club / Re: Lets get organized so we can get gaming!
« Last post by wraith808 on April 29, 2010, 08:28 AM »
I dropped xfire a while ago... it became stuck on Star Trek Online for some reason, and the tracking became useless.  Anytime I was not in a game, I was 'playing' star trek online... annoying.
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Living Room / Re: Apple instigates Police Raid over lost/stolen iPhone 4G
« Last post by wraith808 on April 28, 2010, 07:16 PM »
If I leave something anywhere, and someone sells it, I would feel violated.  People lose stuff all the time- that doesn't make it right that someone sells it.  And it definitely doesn't make it right that someone sells it knowing who it belongs to.  We might have to agree to disagree on this one- I'm not even talking about legal rights, but morality, even though I do believe that what they did should have been legally wrong also.
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Living Room / Re: Apple instigates Police Raid over lost/stolen iPhone 4G
« Last post by wraith808 on April 28, 2010, 10:48 AM »

  • The person tries to RETURN THE IPHONE TO APPLE
  • Apple ignores all (several) attempts to return the phone



Reference?  From everything I read, the person was going to try to return it... then the next day the data was wiped remotely.  He was still going to try to return it, but then noticed that something was different, and after he realized that it wasn't just an vanilla iPhone decided to sell it.
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Mini-Reviews by Members / Re: Mini Review of SugarSync and DropBox
« Last post by wraith808 on April 28, 2010, 10:43 AM »
I understand that on the public folders... but this part applies to private folders too (upload any files), and is the more troubling part.

You will only upload, post, submit or otherwise transmit data and/or files: (i) that you have the lawful right to use, copy, distribute, transmit, or display; or (ii) that does not infringe the intellectual property rights or violate the privacy rights of any third party (including, without limitation, copyright, trademark, patent, trade secret, or other intellectual property right, or moral right or right of publicity). Dropbox has adopted and implemented a policy that permits the deletion of files that violate this policy, and that permits the termination in appropriate circumstances of the accounts of users who repeatedly infringe or are believed to be or are charged with repeatedly infringing the rights of copyright holders. Please see the Dropbox Copyright Policy for further information at http://www.dropbox.com/dmca.

And the fact that it's purely in their discretion, and unlike SugarSync can be done without someone filing a violation. 
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Living Room / Re: Apple instigates Police Raid over lost/stolen iPhone 4G
« Last post by wraith808 on April 27, 2010, 08:37 PM »
I don't have a problem with getting a story, as long as its by ethical means.  Bloggers want to make money from their work, and want to be considered as legitimate media outlets, but use paycheck journalism to get their stories and don't want to be held accountable for their actions.  Who can pay $5000 for a phone that they know is not the person's who they are paying, and think that's right?
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Living Room / Re: Apple instigates Police Raid over lost/stolen iPhone 4G
« Last post by wraith808 on April 27, 2010, 05:07 PM »
I think the key in a focus group is to use it as you would any other device.
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Living Room / Re: Apple instigates Police Raid over lost/stolen iPhone 4G
« Last post by wraith808 on April 27, 2010, 01:02 PM »
As for the engineer, he definitely deserves to get fired. Of all places to bring such a device the pub was not one of them! I bet he just wanted to show it off.

Why was the pub not one of them?  To get real-world usage, they have the focus group use the device as if it were their own phone.  Do you leave your phone at home just because you go to the pub?  And I doubt it was to show it off- I'm sure that is an actionable offense if you're in the focus group.  Read the original account of the finding of the phone- at first, until the person that found it actually took the cover off, they thought it was a 3G.
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Living Room / Re: Apple instigates Police Raid over lost/stolen iPhone 4G
« Last post by wraith808 on April 27, 2010, 11:32 AM »
I haven't heard about it, but IMO they deserve it.  As much as I might not approve of some of Apple's tactics, for Gizmodo to pay for a phone that they know was not the property of whom they were buying from was criminal.  And for them to post the follow up saying that they were trying to keep the engineer from getting fired was hypocrisy at its highest.  If they were really concerned about the engineer, they wouldn't have posted it, but would have done like several other news outlets and said that they would pass.  The guy was going to return the phone until he realized what he had- if Gizmodo hadn't put out their open bounty on Apple items, he might not have even tried to sell it.  Just my opinion, but this whole thing has rubbed me the wrong way.

the phone was accidentally left at a bar in Redwood City, Calif., last month by an Apple software engineer

that's the unbelievable part :)



Well, apparently to get real world data, they let engineers use disguised versions of their upcoming products.  Makes a certain amount of sense, really.
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General Software Discussion / Re: Windows vs. Mac: I'm starting to change.
« Last post by wraith808 on April 26, 2010, 08:08 PM »
What Apple are essentially doing is turning computers and related gadgets into consumer items like cd players, TVs etc which "just work". You cannot really do that without controlling the hardware and the software and without severely limiting consumer options. Earlier generations (well, at least it will be earlier generations to a lot of people here) of geeks had to spend their time with soldering irons or in garages with oil and spanners.

The Microsoft stage succeeded in separating OS from hardware in computers and thereby provided the incentive and impetus for computers to get very cheap. Apple have now been able to take advantage of the cheapness by giving a lot of people what they think they want. Designer labels are the order of the day, and that is what Apple have created.

Both parts of this are quite true, and show sort of what we have to look for in regards to the phoneos wars. I'm a tech person, and have resisted the call of the iphone for a while, but I finally gave in. Why?  Because, in the end, a phone is a phone.  I don't care what you add to it, it has to be able to make calls, and do so *reliably*.  No matter what apps are available, or what cool things you can do- if you can't make and receive calls when you need to, it's not a phone.  This is also one of the reasons that I've dealt with the limitations and haven't jailbroken it.  Because I have too many memories of answering a call and my phone locking up.  Or having no ability to make calls until I 'rebooted' my phone.  I can count the number of times this has happened on my iPhone on one hand with 3 fingers to spare.

As far as the second part, it bodes ill for the android platform.  When the G1 came out, I was impressed.  It was functional, and the experience seemed very good for a first generation device.  Then the G1 without the keyboard came out- and I was still impressed.  Then a plethora of devices followed and I saw the same fracturing of the platform start that happened on every other device with an open (or semi-open) platform.  If you don't control the hardware, then anyone can decide to add or remove features based not upon the end user experience or solidity, but upon gaining market share and making money.  And whenever you are dealing with a money-making proposition, this will become paramount- it's the nature of the companies, if not all of the people that drive them.
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Mini-Reviews by Members / Re: Mini Review of SugarSync and DropBox
« Last post by wraith808 on April 25, 2010, 07:56 PM »
The thread from their website:
I'm on my 30 day trial, and this 'feature' may be a deal breaker. The iPhone app for SugarSync limits the size of the files you can view. This is potentially a deal breaker since one of my purposes of investing in this or DropBox was to view documents on the road. DropBox had no problem displaying the same document. I don't see why SugarSync would limit their iPhone app in the size of the document that you can view. (For the record, it was an rpg book- it was 40.3 MB, and they are regularly that size). If this limit is a hard one that can't be changed (or that you're not open to changing), then as much as I like SugarSync's features, if it can't handle my workflow, then I can't use it...

Thoughts?
   
   
Re: iPhone Document Size Limit
Posted on 4/25/2010 7:41 PM    
We put some final limit based on empirical data. It's possible that more recent versions of the iPhone system are more stable and with more free memory available for apps. We will make a change int he next release to just give you a warning and you will be on your own. Thanks for the feedback.
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It's not happening *now*, but it has happened in the past.  And sometimes there *is* no other way to make extra money over what you're doing, so perhaps games are your only escape from the doldrums of life.  My point is that everyone isn't in the same boat, so to suggest that these are never needed when I know from personal experience that they work is sort of disingenuous.  Are they a replacement for having good parts- no.  But if you don't have the parts or the money, they are definitely somewhere you can look...
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Mini-Reviews by Members / Re: Mini Review of SugarSync and DropBox
« Last post by wraith808 on April 24, 2010, 08:11 PM »
I don't know if I should post this as a separate thread, but I figured that for now I'd start it here.  I decided to try sugarsync, and I'll be posting my experiences- good and bad.

After my sign up, a couple of bad experiences already, though nothing major.

1. SugarSync seems to keep track of your folders, which is what I alluded to when talking about how to copy magic briefcase above.  This is really cool, though it seems to have a couple of rough edges.  I'd synced a folder from somewhere, and wanted to move/rename the folder (I wanted to move it back into the dropbox folder- just in case).  I removed it from sugarsync, but once I'd c&p it to where I wanted, it reappeared in SugarSync.  Bad sign there.  As sugarsync continutally talked about 'merging' folders when I synced to an existing folder, I was leery of this.  But after trying to get the new folder to sync in a different location several times (by deleting the local folder and re syncing to the new location, moving the location, and other means) and seeing that it didn't work, I finally gave in and just copied the old folder to the new location, and letting the files merge.  It merged ok, but I'm still taken aback that I couldn't disassociate SugarSync from the original folder so  I could keep an extra backup.

2. The iPhone app for SugarSync limits the size of the files you can view.  This is potentially a deal breaker since one of my purposes of investing in this or DropBox was to view documents on the road.  DropBox had no problem displaying the same app.  I don't see why SugarSync would limit their iPhone app in the size of the document that you can view.  (For the record, it was an rpg book- it was 40.3 MB, and they are regularly that size).  I'm definitely reporting that on their forums- if they insist on this limit, then as much as I like SugarSync's features, if it can't handle my workflow, then I can't use it, so this will be cut a bit short...
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