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Living Room / Re: Apple instigates Police Raid over lost/stolen iPhone 4G
« Last post by 40hz on May 06, 2010, 04:55 PM »I think I'm going to bow out of this discussion.
Best to all & carry on!

Best to all & carry on!


"Ignorance of the law is no excuse." -- I think that's just bunk. Esoteric laws and reasonable mistakes...
The US has about 3/4 of a percent of its population in prison -- higher than any other country. Laws in the US have run amok and are destroying the country. http://en.wikipedia....in_the_United_StatesIn 2008, over 7.3 million people were on probation, in jail or prison, or on parole at year-end — 3.2% of all U.S. adult residents or 1 in every 31 adults.
WOW! That's simply stunning. Over 3%. There is something seriously wrong there. I have a hard time believing that Americans are really all that evil/bad. No. The problem isn't the people. It's the legislators and the judiciary.-Renegade (May 06, 2010, 10:03 AM)
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I have even gone so far as changing the color in the usercontent.css file of my browser to make it stand out more.-app103 (May 06, 2010, 07:05 AM)

I thought courts were only supposed to issue warrants to search for specific items such as drugs, stolen goods or illegal weapons when evidence has been presented to justify the intrusion.-Carol Haynes (May 06, 2010, 03:53 AM)
If it was a fishing trip for information surely that would be equivalent to denying him the right to silence?
I think that my little tirade above points out that there is a problem with equating "legal/right/desirable" and "illegal/wrong/undesirable".-Renegade (May 05, 2010, 08:32 PM)



@StoicJoker-That's a relief, I had a feeling if nobody got the humor I'd get hammered for it
Like it!
-40hz (May 05, 2010, 01:30 PM)...but I hit post anyway.
-Stoic Joker (May 05, 2010, 06:10 PM)




So is that what you're doing?-wraith808 (May 05, 2010, 01:22 PM)



I honestly don't feel that great about seeing the journalist shield laws coming up for argument with possible criminal complications in the mix when the root of the story is a mere tech gadget.-JavaJones (May 05, 2010, 12:03 PM)

The Failure of #amazonfail
In 1987, a teenage girl in suburban New York was discovered dazed and wrapped in a garbage bag, smeared with feces, with racial epithets scrawled on her torso. She had been attacked by half a dozen white men, then left in that state on the grounds of an apartment building. As the court case against her accused assailants proceeded, it became clear that she’d actually faked the attack, in order not to be punished for running away from home. Though the event initially triggered enormous moral outrage, evidence that it didn’t actually happen didn’t quell that outrage. Moral judgment is harder to reverse than other, less emotional forms; when an event precipitates the cleansing anger of righteousness, admitting you were mistaken feels dirty. As a result, there can be an enormous premium put on finding rationales for continuing to feel aggrieved, should the initial rationale disappear. Call it ‘conservation of outrage.’
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The bigger question for me is what the revenue split is between various types of pages.-JavaJones (May 05, 2010, 11:58 AM)


that's a good point, i have no idea what share of their revenue comes from where. would be nice to know.-mouser (May 03, 2010, 01:36 PM)


The case is in a very grey area.-Renegade (May 04, 2010, 07:26 PM)


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Sources are reporting today that the Department of Justice and the Federal Trade Commission are wrangling over which one of them should lead a preliminary antitrust investigation of Apple. The action was spurred by Apple's new developer agreement which forces app designers to use only Apple programming tools. The inquiry may be launched in a matter of days, and will seek to determine if the policy damages competition in the mobile app space.


She make me think.First and foremost it is virtually impossible to sue large corporations unless you plan to devote your life and every penny you can raise to it...-Carol Haynes (May 02, 2010, 07:50 AM)
How about the US company that released poisonous gas at Bhopal in India and is still to admit responsibility or pay compensation to the families that are still suffering to this day?
By definition corporate life is (and has to be) amoral - it is precisely why corporations were originally conceived as business entities that had a limited scope of operation. They had a corporate charter with a remit to perform one task for a limited fixed period of time and in one particular place.

It was only sleazy corporate lawyers and corrupt judges that created loopholes from the law designed to protect freed slaves that allowed the US in particular (and now most countries using the same corporate model) to become completely dominated by multinationals that owe no allegiance to countries or any other entities other than money.
Most of the people running these large multinationals are not even involved in the day to day decisions of their subsidiaries (and their subsidiaries etc.). They only have an overview of how the corporation is performing for personal profit in the first instance closely followed by shareholders. This is precisely why banks that have almost caused the collapse of the world economy are still making profits and paying out huge bonuses.


if corporations were real people they would be locked up in a psychiatric hospital as dangerous psychopaths!-Carol Haynes (May 01, 2010, 04:35 AM)

The Apprentice (which I detest) comes to mind for the complete lack of integrity shown (and applauded) in the quest for the biggest pile of ca$h. Happy customers? Quality Product? Irrelivant... Just as long as a huge pile of dough is raked in. I find the attitude quite disgusting.-Stoic Joker (May 01, 2010, 07:53 AM)
