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Living Room / Re: 20 years later, the movie "Total Recall" still kicks butt
« Last post by 40hz on June 27, 2010, 08:58 PM »
One minor point: the human qualification in 'human evil' isn't a loophole. Morality only applies to human beings. You can't apply human morality to non-human entities. The evil wolf is only 'evil' in our eyes because he does us harm. But in a more universal scheme of things, he's only a hunter securing food and protecting his territory. So the wolf is no more immoral for hunting human prey than we are evil for raising cattle and eating hamburger.

Of course to a cow, we are evil in the same sense the big bad wolf is evil to us.

Evil is a big topic. For the purposes of what I'm talking about, Hollywood is only concerned about the evil we do to each other. The cosmic forms of evil are cut more slack because our moral standards do not apply to them.

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Re: Usual Suspects.

( One of my all time favs BTW! Great film.  :Thmbsup: )

Close, but no cigar.  :)  

Spoiler
Kaiser Soze sets up the entire scene to kill the one guy who can identify him. He succeeds in getting the Guatamalan informer. Unfortunately, a police sketch artist was able to work up an image based on the description given by a surviving Hungarian gang member who is over in the burn ward. An FBI agent interviews him over the hospitals objections which results in the sketch of Soze. That's how we conclusively know Kaiser Soze is Verbal Kint at the end of the film.

When Verbal says that the greatest lie the Devil ever told was convincing the world he didn't exist, he states what his goal is: to be unidentifiable to the point of where the police doubt he's real.

By the end of the movie, the police absolutely know he does exist - and they finally have his likeness. So despite the fact he escapes at the end, his biggest advantage is now gone. The implication is it will only be a matter of time before he's apprehended now that his cover is blown. And even if he still remains at large, he's lost the biggest advantage he once had - so he failed in his goal.

This is a classic "to be continued" even if a sequel never gets made.

   
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Living Room / Re: 20 years later, the movie "Total Recall" still kicks butt
« Last post by 40hz on June 27, 2010, 12:34 PM »
How does that gel with the ending of The Mist ?

While you don't actually get to see the deed done, the killing of the boy is very graphically implied.


As I said, you can imply all you want. But you can't show it happening.

The scene in The Happening where the smart-mouthed kid got shot had to be reworked several times before Shyamalan got an OK from the studio's legal department. Note when you see the film that you don't actually see the boy getting hit even though you do get to see his dead body (partially and briefly) afterwards. And even that is so quick it's almost implied.

That's one semi-spoiler in any movie. If there's a lead character kid in the film that's 12 or younger, you just know they're going to make it through the movie no matter what.You can kill off the heroine, her boyfriend, her dog, and her helpless and elderly Mom and Dad. You can  even nuke the town where she was born. But that 7-year old kid she picks up along the way is always going to be one of the survivors when the credits finally roll.


I would have put it down as trying to milk more money out of the movie watchers.  If they just didn't want to end with evil being triumphant then they could have stopped at Friday the 13th or A nightmare on Elm Street 3: Dream Warriors, (to use your two psycho examples), but they didn't.  From that point on it was just greed, IMO.  (If you follow the premise of New Nightmare you could actually say that Evil has won - who else would be causing all these crappy sequels to be inflicted upon us?)

Anyone who enjoys the SciFi/Horror genre will go along and see the sequel no matter how bad it is, they'll watch the following sequels in the hope they will be better than the previous, etc, etc, etc.

Yes. They could have stopped the follow-ons at any time. But only if it left the 'conflict' in an unresolved state where evil hadn't yet been conclusively defeated. They don't greenlight movies where the script calls for human evil to finally, absolutely, and conclusively win.

And if you do know of an exception, please educate me. Because AFAIK - it just doesn't happen.

Note: I wasn't saying that the taboo against human evil triumphant is what drives the creation of sequels. But it does provide the opportunity to make sequels since it keeps most of these films from reaching their logical conclusion.

I mean c'mon... unstoppable killer repeatedly comes back from the dead after he's been hit with everything from a baseball bat to a tactical nuke? By this time you'd figure he's just a force of nature like a tornado - something to avoid as best you can since there's nothing you can really do about it.

One way out would be if the military rounded up Jason and his ilk and transported them over to the Afghan/Pakistan border to hunt for and kill Bin Laden. After Bin Laden was gone, the Pentagon could send in the cruise missiles and possibly even call in a B2 wing to do a follow up cluster bombing run "just to be sure." International threat removed, evil punished, supernatural evil semi-redeemed but still punished, and America saved!

Give it a name like Leatherface Leathernecks or The Texas Chainsaw Detail with Stallone as the commanding general and Dolpf Lundgren as the 'CIA guy.' Hey, dredge up the Cenobites from  Barker's Hellraiser franchise while you're at it too. Let Bin Laden plan to unleash them in LA as part of his next terrorist attack...

You can probably see why they don't they let me write these things... ;D


How does that gel with the ending of The Mist ?

Note: the following response contains film spoiler. Don't read if you haven't seen The Mist.

Spoiler
The shootings at the end of the film weren't murders. They were mercy killings intended to save his child and the others from a fate worse than death. But even though David ends up shooting them (with their consent) for a noble purpose, he still gets punished. Since killing another is generally considered 'wrong' (especially killing his own child in order to 'spare him') David is punished by his survival - either to face criminal charges; or at the very least, to live with what he has done and the knowledge he was wrong.

The monsters don't qualify for the taboo because they are not human evil.


I'm with you, 4wd. I just don't buy it. Otherwise The Forgotten never would have been made. At the end, IIRC, good does not win. The "Big Bad" persists and its crystal clear that good will never win.

Yet another spoiler laden response on my part... ;)

Spoiler
Good does win. The redhead got her child back.

The aliens aren't 'taboo evil' because they aren't human evil. And even so, the evil alien conducting the experiment gets 'punished' by his own people for his experimental failure. He bet his mind control games could sever that strange spiritual link his people observed between a human mother and child.

Well guess what? It couldn't. Human love (and family ties) triumph over heartless advanced alien experimenters and their human government collaborators.

Plus, they're not gone - so there's an implied "to be continued." Sequel anyone?

If evil did triumph over good, Telly and would have lost Sam, never got her memory back, and that would have been that. In real life that's probably what would have happened. And that would have made an incredibly boring movie. Or no movie at all since it's an inevitable conclusion which offers no opportunity for genuine conflict. And without conflict, there is no story to film...


There are lots of movies and TV shows where evil wins. I'm thankful for that, watching the good guys win in the end. Every. Single. Time. Well, it gets old.

It only gets old when screenwriters can't come up with an original angle on it. But that's why we create fiction rather than just read history. If you want depressing examples of where human evil triumphs, look no further than that - although you might argue that since history is constantly being written and rewritten, it's a never-ending series of stories about the good guys going on to fight another day.

I'm not aware of any movie where human evil triumphs absolutely. There may be films where the bad guys win the conflict, but the protagonists still always wins in terms of spiritual growth, or goes on to fight evil another day- even if its' only by inspiring a new generation with his/her own death.

How 'bout some more titles?

Ain't film appreciation fun? That's why you always want to watch and discuss movies with friends.  ;D  :Thmbsup:





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Developer's Corner / Re: Code::Blocks 10.05 has been out...
« Last post by 40hz on June 27, 2010, 10:41 AM »
Very good news. I'm using 8.02 and I've been very happy. Can't wait to see what additional goodness 10.05 has to offer.

Thx for sharing this! :Thmbsup:
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Living Room / Re: 20 years later, the movie "Total Recall" still kicks butt
« Last post by 40hz on June 26, 2010, 10:36 PM »
^Nope.  There are certain unofficial but very real taboos the US movie industry observes. Evil does not triumph. Children are not to be subjected to cruelty or physical harm. You may threaten harm. But have a scene in a script where a child actually gets hurt and your script will be tossed in the trash. And religions beliefs are not to be blasphemed or ridiculed either. You can take a jab at a bad clergyman or fringe religion. But you can forget about poking fun at or criticizing any of the major faiths. Same goes for most government figures and offices. You can have a corrupt politician or judge, but you will not be allowed to imply that all government, or it's judicial system are corrupt.

In the late 60s, there was a pilot made for a TV series where the United States became a fascist police state in the wake of an undisclosed crisis. It dealt with a highly patriotic member of the dreaded Internal Security Forces (i.e. the secret police) who gradually began to realize everything he believed in was a lie. The series was supposed to show his gradual transition to rebel against the government. It was televised once and has never been aired since. The title of the pilot was Shadow on the Land.

Despite a favorable reception from viewers, the series never entered into production. And despite numerous requests coupled with a minor campaign to get this pilot released on DVD, to date nothing has occurred or been promised. Most people who have been involved in the campaign have come to the conclusion it never will be rereleased. Maybe there are a few too many parallels between some of what is in this film and post 9/11 America for comfort?  


There's more, but the above examples should give you some idea of the sort of things Hollywood self-censors.

In a way it's kind of funny. Moral conservatives constantly criticize the film industry for it's lack of restraint and respect when it has always ( except for a brief period in the 70s where anything went ) been very careful not to risk offending mainstream sensibilites.
 8)
    
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Living Room / Re: When life rains down lemons...
« Last post by 40hz on June 26, 2010, 03:28 PM »
Would make a great subject for a movie.

What about it Hollywood?

     Anyone?

          Anyone?
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Living Room / Re: The internet: Everything you ever need to know
« Last post by 40hz on June 26, 2010, 02:23 PM »
Porn also sped up the popularization of VHS back in the day, bringing privacy to viewing rather than going into adult theaters or the back rooms of adult bookstores (don't ask me how I know).

Interestingly enough, one side effect of the internet and porn hooking up was something that is referred to as the "feminization of porn."

The porn market garnered an anticipated increase in sales thanks to the privacy afforded by being able to own your own adult movies. But the big surprise came when adult film industry suddenly found their biggest and fastest growth sector was its female customers.

This new market segment also changed the look of the porn industry. In general, porn became a more serious and literary form of entertainment. Some of the newer films started providing storylines (!) and character development (!!) - which was more in keeping with mainstream film. Production values and budgets also increased untill it reached the point where (from a purely visual perspective) most adult movies began to strongly resemble their mainstream counterparts. And when you took into consideration the subject matter of some mainstream films, the difference between  'adult' and R-rated no longer seemed that great.

VHS may have afforded the viewers greater privacy. But it still required them to go out in public to buy or rent a film. The web, however, brought adult entertainment directly into the home with nobody any the wiser. Or so the theory went.

That extra level of privacy and anonymity seemed to be the trigger point for women to start buying in. Apparently, many women didn't mind watching a racy movie or two. They just didn't want other people to know they did. For obvious reasons.

Not that the indicators weren't there. Check out the average "romance" novel. Many of them contain an eye-opening amount of 'graphic' content. But there is a polite understanding that these are to be called "bodice rippers" rather pornographic historical 'romance' novels.

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Very interesting demographic/behavioral/market shift.

Wonder what other changes and 'recalibrations' the internet will bring us...





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^Very valid points you're making. I guess it really is a Catch-22 of sorts.

Best ignore my hangup and continue to do as you think best.  :)

They're certainly interesting* posts!  :Thmbsup:

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* I'm still trying to get my head completely around the one about conversational structure!
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Living Room / Re: Linux Learning - what to do after basic install?
« Last post by 40hz on June 25, 2010, 04:02 PM »
There's a couple of commands you should learn inside out if you're going to be working with Linux servers:

chmod - change system mode of files. Anytime you're mucking with permissions you'll be using this. Also make it a point to really understand how file permissions work in Linux. And also how they relate to users and groups. This is something you'll need to have down cold since handling file access permissions is a major sysadmin responsibility.   

rsync - the quick and dirty sync/backup tool

tar - the now quaintly named "tape archive" utility. The Unix answer to WinZip. You'll be using tar constantly. Learn what all those option switches are for.  

ssh - secure shell. Use it when you're administrating remotely

cron - THE job scheduler. (Also known as "the relationship saver" utility.) Essential to know If you don't want to spend a lot of time hanging around after work in order to get your job done. Want a personal life? Better learn how to use cron ASAP.

apt - powerful package management tool. apt can do a whole lot more than just install packages. Learn all its options. They're very powerful and useful.

(Yoiks! More hardware just arrived. Gotta run.  :Thmbsup: )
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No fear!  ;) I think you're within the scope of Quora's terms and conditions with what you're doing:

Subject to these Terms, Quora gives you a worldwide, royalty-free, non-assignable and non-exclusive license to re-post any of the Content on Quora anywhere on the rest of the web provided that the Content was added to the Service after April 22, 2010, and provided that the user who created the content has not explicitly marked the content as not for reproduction, and provided that you: (a) do not modify the Content; (b) attribute Quora with a human and machine-followable link (an A tag) linking back to the page displaying the original source of the content on quora.com (c) upon request, either by Quora or a user, remove the user's name from Content which the user has subsequently made anonymous; (d) upon request, either by Quora or by a user who contributed to the Content, make a reasonable effort to update a particular piece of Content to the latest version on quora.com; and (e) upon request, either by Quora or by a user who contributed to the Content, make a reasonable attempt to delete Content that has been deleted on quora.com.

Quote away.  :Thmbsup:

However...I can't help thinking it would be better if there were also some original content included with the quote. A summary, an introduction, an argument for or against the point being made - in short, anything that might avoid the impression we're scraping somebody else's content. Including a link back to the original is a step in the right direction. But even with that, just having quotes out there all by themselves can still make a forum thread start to feel like one of those dreaded "list of links" after a while.

But maybe that's just my personal weird. Feel free to ignore.  :)  


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Living Room / Re: Linux Learning - what to do after basic install?
« Last post by 40hz on June 25, 2010, 10:36 AM »
If your orientation is towards server administration the two most necessary skills you'll need to be up on are basic shell commands and scripting; and the use of the VI editor. If you're in the sysadmin group, you'll be using VI and shell extensively. Bash is the most common shell so it's best you start with that. O'Reilly puts out several excellent books that will bring you up to speed on everything you need to know. A quick browse on Amazon or a walk through one of the larger bookstores will also suggest other titles and publishers.

Another thing you'll likely need to know about is the LAMP foursome. Apache, MySQL, and php are among the most common software found on a Linux server. Learning to set up LAMP from scratch is a good skill to have since learning about how these packages interact and how to create and modify config files and databases are skills which have application beyond running webservers. So one good starter project would be to set up LAMP and then try your hand at installing something like a blog engine to become comfortable with actually using web technologies.

There's some other things I could suggest but I'm on the road today with nothing but a smartphone so I can't lookup titles and weblinks right now. But I'll try to get back to you later. In the meantime I'm sure DC's Nixers can provide some other ideas and links for you to try.

So welcome & well met! I think you're really going to
like working with Linux.
 
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Living Room / Re: Weekend moment of zen -- Caturday!
« Last post by 40hz on June 25, 2010, 07:42 AM »
What is the sound of one friend purring?  :)

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Living Room / Re: 20 years later, the movie "Total Recall" still kicks butt
« Last post by 40hz on June 24, 2010, 10:52 PM »
Apparently, the early audiences (in the 50's) thought that was just too scary.
So they added the nice (soft) wrapper that generates a 'happy ending'.


It still happens today. (Look no further than Avatar for a recent example.) Just ask anybody who has ever submitted a screenplay with a completely tragic ending. It will either be changed by the studios or not get made. Same goes for any ending where human evil goes completely unpunished. Either the bad guy has to get his comeuppance, or the hero must live to fight him another day - which basically makes "The End " more like "To be continued..." That's one of the reasons why all those unstoppable-psycho-serial-killer franchises (Freddie Kreuger, Jason, et al) have so many sequels. Hollywood will not allow these stories to end with evil triumphant.

The US motion picture industry has several unwritten 'moral' rules when it comes to story development and outcomes. Would be directors and writers ignore them at their peril.

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 8)

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Living Room / Re: The internet: Everything you ever need to know
« Last post by 40hz on June 24, 2010, 10:18 PM »
^ In all fairness, porn was the first profitable business model to emerge from the internet.

Long before Amazon and Google and Apple's iTunes, there was Danni Ashe and Wifey, smiling angelically while raking in the $$$.

Feel free to draw whatever conclusions you will.  8)


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Living Room / Re: Is Apple a victim of sour grapes?
« Last post by 40hz on June 24, 2010, 10:03 PM »
Anticompetitive industry bully? They've always been anti-competitive. It's just in recent years they've gotten big enough to be a bully. I long for the days when Jobs was a voice of insignificance in the tech world.

LOL! You just made my day.
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General Software Discussion / Re: What's a good wardrobe management software?
« Last post by 40hz on June 24, 2010, 03:20 PM »
I'm on GF 12.3 build 432.

that kind of versioning is strangely disturbing (do you build them yourself?)

also worth remembering that versions are not cross compatible, and any attempt to access history logs will result in immediate lockout and revocation of all rights (access can be recovered, but it's at the discretion of the administrator)  

IMPORTANT SAFETY INFORMATION:

GF "Versions" are not cross-compatible except in very rare instances* where they may grant access to each other's history file, or otherwise begin sharing data.

This should not be cause for alarm on the part of the "Owner"/Administrator however, since he usually won't be allowed to live long enough to worry about it.
 
:P

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* This is an uncommon occurrence sometimes referred to as the: !!UBASTD!! Operation Mode or UBOM (pronounced: You Bombed!) for short.




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Living Room / The internet: Everything you ever need to know
« Last post by 40hz on June 24, 2010, 03:00 PM »
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Every so often somebody writes an article that neatly sums up a complex topic. And in doing so, he lays the groundwork for quality discussions which (ideally) lead to even better insights down the road.

BoingBoing recently found such an article. It's written by John Naughton, who is a "professor of the public understanding of technology" at Open University. It's entitled: The internet: Everything you ever need to know.

I was going to do a write-up. But on reflection, I realized there was little I could say that hadn't already been said better - either by BoingBoing or by Prof. Naughton himself. So I'll content myself with saying: Read it!

But enough already... Go check it out for yourself.   8) :Thmbsup:


From BoingBoing:
John Naughton's feature in today's Observer, "The internet: Everything you ever need to know," is a fantastic read and a marvel of economy, managing to pack nine very big ideas into 15 minutes' reading. This is the kind of primer you want to slide under your boss's door.


You can read the BoingBoing article here.

You can directly jump to Naughton's article here.

Some excerpts:

A funny thing happened to us on the way to the future. The internet went from being something exotic to being boring utility, like mains electricity or running water – and we never really noticed. So we wound up being totally dependent on a system about which we are terminally incurious. You think I exaggerate about the dependence? Well, just ask Estonia, one of the most internet-dependent countries on the planet, which in 2007 was more or less shut down for two weeks by a sustained attack on its network infrastructure. Or imagine what it would be like if, one day, you suddenly found yourself unable to book flights, transfer funds from your bank account, check bus timetables, send email, search Google, call your family using Skype, buy music from Apple or books from Amazon, buy or sell stuff on eBay, watch clips on YouTube or BBC programmes on the iPlayer – or do the 1,001 other things that have become as natural as breathing.

The internet has quietly infiltrated our lives, and yet we seem to be remarkably unreflective about it. That's not because we're short of information about the network; on the contrary, we're awash with the stuff. It's just that we don't know what it all means. We're in the state once described by that great scholar of cyberspace, Manuel Castells, as "informed bewilderment".


The strange thing about living through a revolution is that it's very difficult to see what's going on. Imagine what it must have been like being a resident of St Petersburg in 1917, in the months before Lenin and the Bolsheviks finally seized power. It's clear that momentous events are afoot; there are all kinds of conflicting rumours and theories, but nobody knows how things will pan out. Only with the benefit of hindsight will we get a clear idea of what was going on. But the clarity that hindsight bestows is also misleading, because it understates how confusing things appeared to people at the time.

So it is with us now. We're living through a radical transformation of our communications environment. Since we don't have the benefit of hindsight, we don't really know where it's taking us. And one thing we've learned from the history of communications technology is that people tend to overestimate the short-term impact of new technologies — and to underestimate their long-term implications.


Here's a radical idea: why not see if there's anything to be learned from history? Because mankind has lived through an earlier transformation in its communications environment, brought about by the invention of printing by movable type. This technology changed the world — indeed, it shaped the cultural environment in which most of us grew up. And the great thing about it, from the point of view of this essay, is that we can view it with the benefit of hindsight. We know what happened.

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When you're done, take a moment to read some of the comments at both sites. It's marvellous how an intelligently written article can inspire some equally intelligent commentary. Here's one:

Patrick Nielsen Hayden•#1• 7:46 AM Sunday, Jun 20, 2010 •Reply

Of course, another image of "radically increased biodiversity" overcoming a "slow-moving" status quo is that of a town being swallowed by a jungle. There was violence and unfairness in the town, but it was at least to some extent constrained. In the jungle, "fair" isn't even an aspiration; it's just nature red in tooth and claw. Why this is something we should be enthusiastic about is a little hard to see.

I think this is a good piece overall. But I think it's worth noting that the role of most of us in "an ecosystem whose biodiversity has expanded rapidly" isn't "fun bohemian," it's "lunch."

Hard to argue with that one!  ;D
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+1. Terrific site.

Slightly marred by a very minimal implementation for their RSS feed. Just software product names? Not even a a line or two of additional info?

Fortunately, that doesn't detract at all from the full site's usefulness. A quick scan shows they have some finds you won't see elsewhere.

I'm adding them to my Visit Weekly list.  :Thmbsup:

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^ One of Microsoft's biggest assets is that it doesn't have a man with second class talent and a first class ego (plus a major messiah complex) at the helm. Ballmer, at his looniest, is still saner than Steve Jobs on a good day. Displays more variety in his wardrobe too.


I'm sure Microsoft has it's share of lunatics.

Fortunately, they dont let them be in charge of their asylum.

 
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Living Room / Re: Is Apple a victim of sour grapes?
« Last post by 40hz on June 24, 2010, 09:24 AM »
I think it's more an example of "What comes around goes aroud"

A good friend of mine has a little plaque on her desk. It reads:

I suggest you keep all your words soft, sweet, and wholesome.
(Because you're about to eat them.)

It's good advice.

(Hey Steve! You reading this?) 8)

 ;)
 
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They just underwent a name change to "Primewares" -- probably because it's shorter and easier to type.
;D

More likely because some business finally succeded in getting a trademark on the term "freeware." (kidding, just kidding...)

Freeware has become one of the most abused designations out there. I've even seen it used on products were "free to download" but required a purchased product key before they could even be installed.

"And so it goes," as Vonnegut so aptly said.

  
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Umm...thanks, but today is June 24th. That makes it six days too late. Might have been better if you posted this on the 13th when you joined DC. Because at this point it's just an ad.   :)
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^ True.

Alternatively, a newcomer could just download Ubuntu since they'll need to start somewhere even if they don't plan on staying in the Canonical neighborhood forever. That and maybe (gasp!) read a book?

In keeping with the the "down in the hole" metaphor, this O'Reilly  :-* title is a good one to use:

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Info Link: http://oreilly.com/catalog/9781593271800  (Note: order it from Amazon instead of O'Reilly. Big discount that way.)

The "official" Ubuntu book is also good as a "first read." More specific to Ubuntu and (currently) much more up-to-date than the above title.

Info and ordering: http://www.amazon.co...277383043&sr=8-3

 :Thmbsup:

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Living Room / Re: Amelia: Youtube Dance/Ballet Short
« Last post by 40hz on June 24, 2010, 06:50 AM »
Oh my! Mistaya Hemingway...classic ballet looks coupled with a modern, more athletic physique. And enough precision, style, and class to satisfy even the most demanding critic or avant coreographer.

mistaya-hemingway.jpg

Lovely dancer. She has one of the nicest lines I've ever seen.

I'm going to have to share this with the rest of my family. We're very big on ballet. We already have two professionals in our ranks - plus two jeune filles that are starting to show some real promise! (Fingers crossed.)

@Mouser - Thanks for sharing this.  :Thmbsup:
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Wow PK!

I know you've brought us some heavy and thought provoking topics before. But this video is amazing. I've watched it twice and I'm still digesting the the implications of what it's talking about. (I'll probably watch it a few more times too! Thank goodness for FF and the DownloadHelper plugin.)

If anybody's interested in the structure and possibilities of conversation - watch this video.

Thanks for sharing the find!  :Thmbsup:
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One very real way it can stop a piece of software from improving is when the forum becomes home to so much negativity and criticism that the developers decide it's not worth it to continue.

I've seen this happen several times now over in the FOSS world.

Forums can kill something just as easily as they can help it.

Something to think about. And even more importantly, something to remember when participating in a thread.

 :)

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