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Living Room / Re: When you make your 100'th Post
« Last post by wraith808 on May 05, 2011, 12:42 PM »Masu makes 400
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"No, there's no moral justification for the celebration. But no enlightened reason for the fear we felt, either. If the fear was comprehensible, so is the joy. We're only human."
Yeh, "congratz" for murdering an unarmed old man after ten years of pointless bombing. Idiots.
BTW, has anyone here mentioned yet that al-Quaeda was an US-American guerilla troop initially?-Tuxman (May 04, 2011, 01:25 PM)
A possibility just crossed my mind - what if they have him alive in a dungeon somewhere? Would make perfect sense from a counter-terrorism POV. No accusations of torture, easy to produce and verify DNA evidence and show the world it was indeed him, even easy to fake death images or video if you have the guy alive.-nosh (May 03, 2011, 11:18 PM)
Last week I saw an episode of 'Game of Thrones' and there one character spoke some wise words...The one who gives the death sentence should carry it out as well.-Shades (May 03, 2011, 12:02 PM)
There's been a second data breach. But DON'T PANIC!! (It only affects 25 million users.)
http://www.reuters.c...dUSN0224988320110503-nosh (May 02, 2011, 11:29 PM)
http://massively.joy...ue-to-serious-issue/
Other SOE services are also offline. It is not clear if they were hacked also, if this a precautionary measure, or if this for forensic purposes...-wraith808 (May 02, 2011, 01:27 PM)
I'd like to think we can passionately disagree without feeling the need to turn on each other in order to demonstrate the depth of our feelings and convictions about something.
Sometimes, the simple act of "agreeing to disagree" is the highest form of respect we can extend to each other.-40hz (May 02, 2011, 06:38 PM)
But the point of the matter is that it is avoidable, for the fact that there are operations where it doesn't happen.-wraith808 (May 02, 2011, 10:47 AM)
I suppose "collateral damage" is often avoidable in what used to be called "surgical strike" operations (haven't heard of those in a while! Are they all out of fashion now?) when a small, specialized team is sent to perform a small, focused task, like apprehending or killing OBL.
It is never avoidable when you launch a full-scale war like in Iraq or Afghanistan, or even limited air strikes such as in Libya.-tranglos (May 02, 2011, 04:09 PM)
Just because something can spiral, does not automatically dictate that it will/must spiral into the eternal abyss (or the dark side if you like...). Because it is also "true", that only a fool has no fear.
-Stoic Joker (May 02, 2011, 03:12 PM)
As having a conscious is a good thing I'm told.-Stoic Joker (May 02, 2011, 11:54 AM)
Sums up the whole problem for me. If you want to sell your software, have an easily available demo. Microsoft is generous in this regard and is actually a good example (for putting up trail versions, not the fact that they still get pirated as hell).-Shades (May 02, 2011, 01:10 PM)
heheh, "they hate our freedoms"; i've not heard that one before.-nudone (May 02, 2011, 12:59 PM)
It seems to me that in a lot of cases, it just boils down to "they hate..."-Renegade (May 02, 2011, 01:07 PM)
I see it as boiling down to killing is killing.
The only question then is, are you willing to commit "evil"?-Renegade (May 02, 2011, 11:29 AM)
The other thing that is very important to point out is the contribution *you* make to a group by holding and voicing opinions that are contrary to others. Does any of us really want a forum here where we all agree with each other on everything?
If a group as a whole starts advancing core positions that you find morally unacceptable, and you conclude that your mere presence in the group by those that disagree is lending weight to this objectionable opinion, then resigning in protest can be an important action to take. But it's also true that if everyone left a group every time there was a heavy disagreement about something, then every group would rapidly evolve into a collection of single-minded obnoxious bullies. Sometimes being a voice of dissent within a family/group is an important thing.-mouser (May 02, 2011, 10:25 AM)
...not helping?...off.-housetier (May 02, 2011, 09:02 AM)
thanks a lot
all you're proving now is that you too can be an a$$hole-tomos (May 02, 2011, 10:53 AM)
So, what would you advocate? I ask this not with any sarcasm, I am truly curious as to what you think the alternative should be. When one party launches a military assault on a country, inflicting heavy civilian casualties, what should be done? Should it go unanswered, which would invite more attacks?
I should also remind you that a lot of the collateral damage is caused by cowards who take refuge in population centers and who use women and children as human shields. One of the four killed last night was a woman that one of the men was using as a human shield. This weekend there was a bombing in Iraq against civilians where they used a 12 year old boy as the suicide attacker. Where is your outrage at that?-edbro (May 02, 2011, 10:46 AM)
(there is IMHO a big difference between collateral damage and deliberately targeting civilians, though)-f0dder (May 02, 2011, 07:34 AM)
IMHO, no difference whatsoever. When you start bombing a country, you know there will be civilian casualties and you know this is not avoidable. Saying they are not deliberate is just that - saying it. You made it deliberate when you set out to bomb a city or a village full of civilians.-tranglos (May 02, 2011, 10:34 AM)
I think it's more BASIC was designed to be an application rather than a systems programming language. As such, there's very little need for many of the powerful capabilities and "bare metal" access C provides when you're doing apps. In many respects they do noting but add an additional layer of unnecessary risk and complexity.I don't think that the original iterations of BASIC were designed to be an application programming language.-40hz (May 02, 2011, 09:49 AM)
Besides, e do they get off dissing BASIC as being CareBear country when 90% of what's being written for Windows uses .NET or some other collection of pre-canned routines or libraries? Half the time these "professional" programmers use C for nothing more than glue to hold a bunch of stick code together.-40hz (May 02, 2011, 09:49 AM)
What would you have us do?-edbro (May 02, 2011, 08:16 AM)
Have him stand trial.-housetier (May 02, 2011, 08:40 AM)
+1
But it just goes to show what kind of a world we live in. It's perfectly fine to murder people if you can get away with it. It's also fine to steal and do anything else if you can get away with it. The only "evil" in this world is "getting caught/punished".-Renegade (May 02, 2011, 09:22 AM)
I'm old fashioned in that way- never women or children.-wraith808 (May 02, 2011, 09:18 AM)
Oh, that's NATO's job to kill women and children.-Renegade (May 02, 2011, 09:26 AM)