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Living Room / Re: More Hilarity - "Can I have my spy plane back?"
« Last post by wraith808 on December 28, 2011, 12:21 AM »
Hopefully this works:

http://www.gpo.gov/f...LLS-112hr1540enr.pdf

That's for v7. Is that the right one or wrong one?

Yes, that's the correct one, and the changes are in that one.
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N.A.N.Y. 2012 / Re: NANY 2012 Pledge and Early Beta: Christian Prayer Minder
« Last post by wraith808 on December 27, 2011, 11:44 AM »
Wow... you're working hard!  Good work!
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Living Room / Re: Adware is not freeware, right?
« Last post by wraith808 on December 27, 2011, 10:48 AM »
I meant the geek who was a geek because thats how they actually are, not the geek who just wants to appear that way to people around them.
People who actually spend time DOING things like programming, and not just talking about it.

People say Sheldon reminds them of me, it just annoys me. He spends too much time socialising ineptly. While I am perfectly capable but just have other things that amuse me more than other people.

But Sheldon *does* do things.  This is a sit-com, so they show his home life more than his lab life, right?  He even brings his work home with him...
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Living Room / Re: More Hilarity - "Can I have my spy plane back?"
« Last post by wraith808 on December 27, 2011, 10:47 AM »
It's moved from 1031 to 1021, so looks like I was out of date above and being ranty again. :D

http://thomas.loc.go...query/z?d112:HR01540: < You need to drill down. You can't link to it directly.

SEC. 1021. AFFIRMATION OF AUTHORITY OF THE ARMED FORCES OF THE UNITED STATES TO DETAIN COVERED PERSONS PURSUANT TO THE AUTHORIZATION FOR USE OF MILITARY FORCE.

 (a) In General- Congress affirms that the authority of the President to use all necessary and appropriate force ... includes the authority for the Armed Forces of the United States to detain covered persons (as defined in subsection (b)) pending disposition under the law of war.

 (b) Covered Persons- A covered person under this section is any person as follows:

 ...

 (2) ...any person who has committed a belligerent act...

It's still there. It still says "anyone we feel like". "Belligerent act" is simply massively broad.

No, it's not still there.  Sections stay the same in bills, but can be dropped or added as needed, so you have to look at the final bill to see what is being voted on/passed.

This is the one that is being presented to the president (the same one in your quote on the 7th version).  Note that section 1021 does not exist.

The situation that Jim pointed out is the truth of the matter. (Thanks for that Jim)  Why it's being referred to as still being in the bill?  I don't know...

And the link I posted above tells the exact stage that the bill is in.
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Living Room / Re: More Hilarity - "Can I have my spy plane back?"
« Last post by wraith808 on December 26, 2011, 03:02 PM »
Section 1031?  I've read it, and it doesn't say that.  To quote in its entirety:
SEC. 1031. DEFINITION OF INDIVIDUAL DETAINED AT GUANTANAMO.

In this subtitle, the term `individual detained at Guantanamo' means any individual who is located at United States Naval Station, Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, on or after March 7, 2011, who--
(1) is not a citizen of the United States or a member of the Armed Forces of the United States; and
(2) is in the custody or under the effective control of the Department of Defense.

Unless you mean another section 1031?  But that's pulled directly from the bill's text.  Perhaps section 1034 is what you mean:
SEC. 1034. AFFIRMATION OF ARMED CONFLICT WITH AL-QAEDA, THE TALIBAN, AND ASSOCIATED FORCES.

Congress affirms that--
(1) the United States is engaged in an armed conflict with al-Qaeda, the Taliban, and associated forces and that those entities continue to pose a threat to the United States and its citizens, both domestically and abroad;
(2) the President has the authority to use all necessary and appropriate force during the current armed conflict with al-Qaeda, the Taliban, and associated forces pursuant to the Authorization for Use of Military Force (Public Law 107-40; 50 U.S.C. 1541 note);
(3) the current armed conflict includes nations, organization, and persons who--
(A) are part of, or are substantially supporting, al-Qaeda, the Taliban, or associated forces that are engaged in hostilities against the United States or its coalition partners; or
(B) have engaged in hostilities or have directly supported hostilities in aid of a nation, organization, or person described in subparagraph (A); and
(4) the President's authority pursuant to the Authorization for Use of Military Force (Public Law 107-40; 50 U.S.C. 1541 note) includes the authority to detain belligerents, including persons described in paragraph (3), until the termination of hostilities.

But even that is limited, though the language is unclear.  The intent is towards combatants in the 'war', and this unclear terminology is being used as a talking point.

That fact (and Ron Paul's usage of the talking point) is made a bit more clear in this bit by Politifact.com.

Paul’s debate warning ties to the House-approved language adding "associated forces" to the Taliban and al-Qaeda as permitted U.S. targets--not to the Defense Department’s budget, contrary to his wording.

Most significantly, the U.S. government has laid claim to such authority for about a decade. So even if the cited provisions pass into law, they would not change how the government prosecutes detainees. Also, we saw no evidence that the change would make American non-combatants vulnerable. We rate Paul’s claim Mostly False.

This is not to say that there aren't still problems with the legislation as written.  My major point is that Ron Paul is a politician.  Relying on him to 'save us' is just like relying on Obama to enact 'change that we can believe in'.  Everyone is hampered by a lack of understanding that the politicians serve the people rather than themselves and special interests, so that the government is deadlocked.  The people need to send a clear word to the politicians that we don't want washington to be politics as usual.  But we don't.  And whomever wins is spun to be a victory by the people, but the people had little to do with it, other than being directed by the spending and commercials to vote for the lesser evil.

Obama never vetoed it. It went through.

From govtrack.us
Status: Passed Congress. Next: Having passed in identical form in both the House and Senate, this bill now awaits the signature of the President before becoming law. [Last Updated: Dec 22, 2011 12:00PM]

Senate vote details

House Vote Details

As the President is on vacation (and has been since before that update) it has not been signed.
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Developer's Corner / Re: Ribbon UI - is it really THAT good?
« Last post by wraith808 on December 26, 2011, 02:36 PM »
All of this is just FUD, and maybe from a consumer prospective or even a small ISV prospective it might seem that this is just around the corner.  But coming from somewhere that has a huge IT department and that has just spent a sickening amount of money on VS2010 and MSDN, I can tell you that it just isn't so.

I'll have to respectfully disagree with you that all of this is "just" FUD. (Gotta be careful with that "just" argument. I'm often guilty of that myself.) But I suppose our corporate work experiences are rather different.  ;)

Either way, time will tell.  :)

I'd guess it depends on the types of companies you work for, and the type of work that you do.  IT encompasses a whole lot now, but as a developer, I work for firms that to a large degree depend on software, even if they sell a different product.  My current company sells information- collated and sourced investment information.  Numbers and such when you break it down.  But they use software to get that, collate it, source it, check it, package it, and deliver it.  And though there might be third party tools used, its to a large degree very custom.  Too custom at times.  But when time to market is everything, using the same thing as everyone else is not going to cut it.  Believe me, we've discussed Metro and what it means.  And dealing directly with Microsoft, it doesn't mean what people are saying it means.  Of course, that could just be talking to the audience, and I'm not dismissive of any information (or at least try not to be), and excuse if the 'just' offended.

But as you say, it will all come out in time.  And it is a good thing to watch for signs so that when that time comes, you can be prepared. :)
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Living Room / Re: Adware is not freeware, right?
« Last post by wraith808 on December 26, 2011, 10:16 AM »
Oh, and Sheldon from the Big Bang Theory is nothing like a reak geek.

Geeks come in all flavors and sizes.  And I have a friend that's almost exactly like Sheldon, that identifies himself as a geek.
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Living Room / Re: More Hilarity - "Can I have my spy plane back?"
« Last post by wraith808 on December 26, 2011, 09:22 AM »
NDAA 2012 gives the US govt the power to arrest and indefinitely detain anyone for *any reason*.

http://rt.com/news/t...ards-government-613/

I don't think that points to what you think it does.  The smoking gun that was quoted there was distributed to military surplus stores.  I don't think wal-mart is a military surplus store.

And as far as the NDAA 2012, that's the legislative branch giving away authority to the executive branch, not the other way around.   Think about it- it made it through the house even as it stands.  The Republican controlled house.  What does that say?

And apparently (though not in as attention grabbing a headline) Obama has threatened to veto in its current form, so language is still being added to avoid a presidential veto.

More clarifications on the controversial terms.

Which, if true, would mean that Ron Paul and others who have supposedly read it, are either ignorant of these same facts (unlikely) or using the internet firestorm to their own advantage.

Which would be politics as usual.

Ron Paul can't save us now.  We can only save ourselves.
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Developer's Corner / Re: Ribbon UI - is it really THAT good?
« Last post by wraith808 on December 26, 2011, 09:08 AM »
Not really surprising - if they want to sell anything for Apple iPods/iPads/iPhones they are froced to sell through the app store.

I'm talking about on the Mac.  You don't have to sell things on the app store to sell for the Mac.  The threat I think that is being posed is to the desktop.  And even in the case of the Mac and Apple's App store, the point is that even they haven't been that stupid yet.  I know many people that would be less Apple friendly if they did so.  So I don't think that Microsoft would go that route either.

Then consider this - most of the major record labels have recently announced they plan to discontinue producing CDs after 2012 and switch completely over to digital distribution. No more hard media!

As long as I can burn it, I truly don't care.  The moment I'll start caring about that is the moment they attempt to lock down my ability to get it out from under their DRM, or to make media if I want it.  I buy few things in hard format anymore.  I'm just running out of space.  I was being choked out of my house (and losing things to moves/selling due to lack of space) all of the time.  When I left my condo 4 years ago, I literally left behind over 1000 books + 100s of CDs because I had no way/time to move them.  I would rather have had that information, but I just didn't have the resources.  Since goodwill/salvation army no longer pick up anything other than furniture/appliances, they ended up thrown away.  I'd rather not be that wasteful again.  Now, with only buying digital, though my room is still full from the move (floor to ceiling bookshelves on two of the walls) I rarely have to add to the amount, because I buy mostly digital.  And if CD sales are dying off, then why wouldn't they move to digital?  Do they still sell 8 tracks of new releases?  How about LPs?  They're relegated only to collectors.  Things move on.  It's the DRM that's the problem, not the advancement of digital media.

Point is, if Microsoft goes that route, it's far easier for enterprise customers to go along than it is for them to retool over to a new OS and a new set of core applications. Especially since Microsoft has already announced plans to allow big corporate users to run what amounts to their own app store in-house.

Really?  You really think that?  I've *never* seen a company that uses only software off the shelf.  That would mean that Microsoft and such were the only large IT shops, and that's just not true.  I've worked at only a few small companies over my time in development; most have been larger, and ALL have used custom software.  It's just that the software is tailored to the business, not the other way around.  Especially for proprietary processes.  And Microsoft knows this (how much money do you think they make off of software that does this?  How much does MSDN and Visual Studio make for them?  Quite a pretty penny).

All of this is just FUD, and maybe from a consumer prospective or even a small ISV prospective it might seem that this is just around the corner.  But coming from somewhere that has a huge IT department and that has just spent a sickening amount of money on VS2010 and MSDN, I can tell you that it just isn't so.
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Living Room / Re: More Hilarity - "Can I have my spy plane back?"
« Last post by wraith808 on December 26, 2011, 01:26 AM »
The Obama administration has basically given the office of the president god-like powers to do whatever he wants. The next president could simply arrest all of the 3 branches of government as traitors and terrorists. ;D :P (I couldn't resist that one either~! The sad thing is that it's actually true~!)

Ummm... what?  I don't get the reference.  And there's been a lot that hasn't been able to make it through, even down to extending unemployment benefits during the holiday season, so I *really* don't get it.
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Developer's Corner / Re: Ribbon UI - is it really THAT good?
« Last post by wraith808 on December 25, 2011, 09:02 PM »
Which is fine. But what I (and my clients) don't appreciate is Microsoft's refusal to categorically state what the long term plans for the desktop are once Win8/Metro goes gold. (And by Metro i mean the whole walled garden environment every tech company seems hell bent on copying from Apple if they can possibly get away with it.) So if there's unwarranted confusion and concern, it's largely how Microsoft's been playing it so coy that's caused it.

I'm advising my business clients not to buy any app they will use in their business from an app store where the owner of the store can kill apps already purchased. No business in their right mind should want any applications -- especially applications that are or might become "business critical" -- that someone can kill switch at any time. That's like giving someone a kill switch for your business. I really don't think Microsoft has thought a lot of this stuff through given that a lot of their income comes from sales to businesses.

I don't think that enterprise level applications are going to be app store type apps, in any case.  I just can't see that happening no matter what.  But then again, I was surprised to see that adobe is on the Apple app store, but even those are only the consumer level applications.
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Living Room / Re: More Hilarity - "Can I have my spy plane back?"
« Last post by wraith808 on December 25, 2011, 09:00 PM »
Terrifying (and stupid) as the whole thing is you have to wonder if Obama is actually more intelligent than George W. Bush because everything seems to indicate "White House Out to Lunch" (nothing new there then).

Reminds me of the huge amount of hope we had in the UK when Tony Blair was originally made PM, the same seems to have happened with the new politics Obama promised.

Hope is the commodity used to win elections these days, and the first casualty of every new government!

I really hate that, because it's true. :(

I'm hoping and praying that Ron Paul wins in 2012 though. He's been consistent with the same message for forever and a day. I can't seem him winning then changing.

He really is the only hope.

Help us Ron Paul! You're our only hope~! ;D

Everybody seems to forget that there are three branches of the government in the US for a reason- checks and balances.  Though the president does have a lot of power, he is not all powerful and can't act alone.  And in this case, there's been very little that he could do to make things better, with the state of politics in Washington.  Unless that changes, no matter who gets into office, there won't be much difference, other than the spin.

Basically, with any president, you win with your base + independents to your slant, then you govern from the middle.  The only problem is today, the middle is no-man's land.  He's tried to make the same shift that most presidents have, but it can't work in this environment.
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Living Room / Re: Reddit Leaving GoDaddy because of SOPA Support
« Last post by wraith808 on December 25, 2011, 12:01 PM »
Looping back a bit, some folks over at Slashdot say GoDaddy actually still supports the SOPA bill, they're just reversing their PR advocacy. Not sure of the details, I'll leave that to my betters.

This specifically says they do not.  If they take any SOPA related actions/support SOPA at all, that would be the smoking gun after this explicit reversal.
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Living Room / Re: Reddit Leaving GoDaddy because of SOPA Support
« Last post by wraith808 on December 24, 2011, 11:40 AM »
The SOPA is an incredible dangerous piece of legislation that requires a crystal clear message. We The People, will not tolerate the further weakening (and destruction) of the Constitution.

So then make the point where it should be made.  Anyone that even thought about voting for this shouldn't be in office come their next term.  But the voting is so dissociated from the actions of the politicians, that I doubt even the most frothing at the mouth anti-SOPA voter will even think about it come next election.  Because other things matter more.  Like... frothing at the mouth over party divisions.  Or something.  I'm not sure what... but there's something!

You know that you're sending mixed signals now, eh?

That was a calculated risk, but I thought the joke fit rather nicely. Moral being that some things just cannot be overlooked regardless of previous good behavior.

I think that with the quick reversal, and the prior history of good behaviour, this isn't one of those things.  If they dragged their feet in the mud and had to be pulled screaming, then I'd say so.  But not in this case.  The RIAA - yeah, I can see that.  The MPAA - yeah, I can see that too.  But this...?

I won't be pulling out at this time.  They've gone out of their way to help me at times, and not just to correct the problem, but to help me understand.  But that's just my opinion and my experience.  Let each person's wallet speak for them.
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Living Room / Re: Reddit Leaving GoDaddy because of SOPA Support
« Last post by wraith808 on December 24, 2011, 10:16 AM »
This ain't a mistake what got learned from. Unless of course the "lesson" was don't get caught. It's a pure and simple evil corporate money grab attempt at backing-the-winning-pony. They recoiled because they got $panked ... Not because they learned anything/had a change of "heart"/realized it was wrong...

I'm afraid Stoic is 100% correct in his analysis.  :(

GoDaddy talks a good game. But they're a big sprawling corporation. And many who have used GD soon discover there's often serious disconnects between what's being said and what's being done.



The thing that people often forget, is that corporations are not entities.  They are made up of people, and the larger the corporation, the more stratified the people are.  Maybe there is a disconnect in management, but there so often is.  There probably wasn't at the lower levels (and perhaps even at the higher levels- the people who couldn't convince the policy makers not to do this).  And perhaps those same people, in the face of the internet screaming, used that as leverage to get things done.  Perhaps the outcry by itself did nothing.  We don't know.

But what we do know is that those people are still employed there, and boycotting after a reversal will hurt them, and make the case less clear cut for people trying to work from the inside in the future.

The thing is, is there a history of negative actions.  Not that I've seen... and that history would bear out the boil them in oil attitude.  Not one incident.  At least IMO.
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Living Room / Re: Reddit Leaving GoDaddy because of SOPA Support
« Last post by wraith808 on December 23, 2011, 10:15 AM »
Spoiler
I used to sit around and drink with spooks. They were some very nice people. Tight lipped about a lot of things, but open about many others.

You can't blame them though; they still are some very nice people.  It's just that the rules have changed- part of the reason is the nature of terrorism, but the other part is the pressure for nothing else to happen while someone is shining a light and taking you to task on every tactic.  Not all of them use the same tactics, and most of them respect the rule of law.  It's the same thing as everywhere else- it's the bureaucrats.  And until the citizens are willing to take the government to task for everything that is happening, the citizens won't make a difference, no matter who is in office.  Voting is like any other tool- it only matters if it is used correctly.  And because of the two party system, our media, and our lobby system, that's been broken for a while.  It's just becoming more obvious.


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Developer's Corner / Re: Ribbon UI - is it really THAT good?
« Last post by wraith808 on December 22, 2011, 08:26 AM »
which they plan on forcing everyone over to eventually.

I *still* haven't seen anything concrete that says they plan on switching everyone over to it eventually.  I see this quoted a lot, but no substantiation.  Is there an article or anywhere that supports this view?
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DC Gamer Club / Re: Humble Indie Bundle 4 is now live
« Last post by wraith808 on December 21, 2011, 10:58 AM »
Sorry if someone is so poor that they can't shell out $1+ they shouldn't be wasting even 1 cent on games and probably should sell their PC to buy some food! They certainly can't afford to pay a broadband subscription to cover their Steam costs.
Just because someone can't afford non-essentials doesn't mean that they can't buy food or don't need PCs/broadband for easy access to jobs and such.  I know quite a few people in those situations (and I'd think that most people at least in the US know someone) so I guess I'm a little more understanding with the economic situation the way that it is that but for the grace of God that I could be in the same situation, and how much entertainment helps to stave off depression and make the situation a bit brighter.  So done within reason, I can understand prioritizing a little entertainment- and that's why as a gamer I try to do these unexpected things for friends in those situations.  Economic hard times haven't spared any class of people during this downturn, and I know people who've worked hard for 20 years+ that have lost everything because of it.  And some are *still* not turning to handouts, so isn't a charitable attitude towards them just as much charity?

I am sure not everyone is gaming the system but obviously a lot of people are otherwise they wouldn't have made the current statement. Another thing they can do is simply wither stop using Steam to avoid the issue - all the games are still downloadable and playable which seems fair enough - or ask Steam to make it clear that Humble Buindle Keys are not going to be eligible for any prizes etc.

I think the issue is being clouded as far as that is concerned.  During Steam events, sometimes you need to buy a game to complete an event.  Some people are getting the games exceedingly cheap in order to be able to compete in these events.  That's the issue, I think- not that you can use the keys to be eligible for prizes.  And to stop using Steam would punish the many for the sake of the few- sort of like DRM in a way...?  But that's a different discussion.  ;D
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DC Gamer Club / Re: Humble Indie Bundle 4 is now live
« Last post by wraith808 on December 21, 2011, 09:49 AM »
I don't really see why they can't insist all purchases must be over $1 - if people are paying under 30 cents that shouldn't be allowed as it is costing them money for the PayPal transaction.

I think the spirit of the thing is not just to let people set what they think it's worth, but what they can actually pay.  I know people that are long-term unemployed whom I have introduced to it (usually through gifting) who can't afford anything.  Maybe those are some of the people who just scrape together what they can (maybe even on .01) to pay.  I'm sure some are gaming the system, but I don't think that it can be assumed that all are...
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Living Room / Re: Hard drive shortage
« Last post by wraith808 on December 20, 2011, 10:59 PM »
As for socialism, that is a dirty word that can be taken out of context in so many ways that I prefer never use it. We're hard core capitalists here in the USA, even the left-wing people who some call 'socialists'. You can bet on that. Real socialism is a totally different ballgame. Sure, we do have a mixed economy in ways, since we do have social programs, as do all first-world countries. However, nothing much has changed, and it really doesn't matter much who is in office. We are nowhere near socialism, so let's not take out that word. That's my take on things.

QFT.  It's all FUD to a large extent from both sides, to get people frothing at the mouth rabid and unable to look at things rationally.
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DC Gamer Club / Re: Steam Holiday Sale has Started
« Last post by wraith808 on December 20, 2011, 10:26 AM »
The steam servers were being hammered yesterday. They have finally picked up the load and are processing normally. That said, I have found some very good deals on there!

If anyone sees a good 4 pack, let me know. I am almost always up for a 4 pack.

Bunch of Heroes, anyone?
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DC Gamer Club / Anyone in for Bunch of Heroes 4-pack?
« Last post by wraith808 on December 19, 2011, 11:30 PM »
Bunch of Heroes is $7.49 for a 4-pack.  Anyone up for it?

About the Game:
The Bunch is the most formidable team of elite fighters ever assembled from around the world. What brought them together? Well, obviously the Earth is under attack! An alien invasion is threatening all humankind, without regards to gender, color or nationality. And these nasty aliens have a powerful Zombie Army™ at their disposal!

Play as Agent Liu, Jared Joe, El Camarada or Captain Smith becoming humanity’s last line of defense. Survive by any means necessary wielding a huge arsenal that includes flame throwers, rail guns and gravity bombs. Or charge over-the-top super powers that will annihilate your enemies! Cooperate online with up to 4 players.

“Bunch of Heroes” features stylized cartoon like artwork, funky rock and roll music, cutting edge technology, great humor and cooperative gameplay to inspire zombie killers and E.T. haters alike all over the globe!

Become a Hero; Earth needs a bunch of them at least!

Key Features:
Play with your friends in the 4 player cooperative online campaign
Amazing cartoon style graphics and Funky Rock and roll Music
4 Playable characters with amazing Ultra attacks
Lush and diverse environments
Multiple objectives within each level
Dozens of fun and wacky enemies
A huge arsenal of weaponry to annihilate them with
Place and use turrets to gain tactical advantage
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DC Gamer Club / Steam Holiday Sale has Started
« Last post by wraith808 on December 19, 2011, 11:29 PM »
http://store.steampo...m/search/?specials=1

Madness ensues from now until January 2nd
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In fact, if anyone wishes to pay for the postage, they can have the MIMO. Let me know.

I'd like it if anyone else doesn't.  I was thinking about getting one, but the price has been a limitation.

Nevermind... a day late and a dollar short it appears...

Hope you get it working in any case!
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Living Room / Re: Don't be a free user?
« Last post by wraith808 on December 16, 2011, 12:14 AM »
There's nothing "real" about it though. I apologize if I come off sounding antagonistic. I'm no more doing what IainB was doing in the CNET Downloader topic which is just to show and warn of obvious marketing schemes that I know of. Pinboard is not any way wrong for doing this, it's just that it shouldn't be used as a metric for "being real".

If the statistics are truthful, then how is it not being real?  Just because others use it for marketing purposes, does that predicate that he is doing the same, rather than showing transparency?
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