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Living Room / Re: How to tell if your cat is plotting to KILL you
« Last post by Deozaan on December 19, 2008, 05:31 PM »
France? I don't get it  :huh:
Switzerland is known for its neutrality, but France has been involved in many wars in the 20th century alone, and many more along its history

I didn't intend on being political or offensive. It just seemed to me that France has been a country that has been hesitant to engage in "conflicts" over the past several years. But as you said, that's not necessarily a bad thing.

And I suppose what I was really getting at, in a roundabout way, is asking why he would name the nice kitty Persia. Isn't Persia now called Iran? This is probably becoming political now, but Iran isn't exactly known for its kind, peaceful attitude.
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N.A.N.Y. 2009 / Re: NANY 2009 Teaser: HexCards
« Last post by Deozaan on December 19, 2008, 05:21 PM »
Great video btw and idea! Just wondering why is there one card left? Is this for a game mechanic reason? I thought it would be great to turn the game around  with the last card of the game. muhahah

justice, I just assumed that the player going second gets a slight advantage (they know they'll have one tile left at the end).

Is that right? Is that why it's a draw: same number of tiles of each colour, both on the board and off?

The idea is that there are an odd number of "slots" to play your card, so one player is automatically disadvantaged. The attempt at balancing out this disadvantage is to count the unplayed card, but then that gives an advantage to whoever gets the freebie. So the attempt at balancing out that disadvantage is to let the other player get first choice on where to play their card. But to be honest, I'm not sure if that truly balances the game out or if it does indeed make things fairly even.

And yes, that's why the screenshot I posted is a draw. It counts to totals of all cards, whether they've been played or not.
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Living Room / Re: Childhood Memory
« Last post by Deozaan on December 17, 2008, 10:07 PM »
Once I got a cell phone I stopped remembering any phone numbers. Sometimes I even forgot my own phone number. It sure is handy having an address book with you wherever you go. :Thmbsup:
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Living Room / Re: How to tell if your cat is plotting to KILL you
« Last post by Deozaan on December 17, 2008, 10:00 PM »
Heh. Funny songs. :D

Wouldn't Switzerland or France be a better name for the kitty who doesn't want to fight?
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Living Room / Re: How will the Earth end?
« Last post by Deozaan on December 17, 2008, 09:55 PM »
Oil production has pretty much reached it's peak, and will start to go downhill from now - and demands are going up (and remember that oil isn't just used for gasoline, but also for plastic materials etc).

There's lots of untapped oil in Alaska. And OPEC just made drastic cuts to their oil production.

So I seriously do believe that we're going to see some serious resource problems within long. [...] Perhaps disaster won't strike during my lifetime, at least in this part of the world, but we live in a globalized world... if things in Africa or China or India become too bad, there's a chance it's going to affect my sorry ass as well.

I do agree that we'll likely see some of these big problems before long. Not due to lack of resources but due to mismanagement of resources and politics mostly. I think we'll likely see food shortages (like the rice shortage from a few months back, but worse) again in the next couple of years. Not because there's no room to farm food, but because so much of that farm land is being used to grow fuel for vehicles. In my opinion, it's stupid things like that which will lead to resource shortages.

Deozaan please get your facts right, They do not kill the child they fine the parents 10,000 RMB, Killing a child in China is call murder and anyone doing it goes to jail.

Well, I have to admit that I haven't witnessed it firsthand, but I have heard secondhand that it has indeed happened. I also am left wondering whether or not you truly know for sure, since the Chinese government won't even let its citizens know what happened at Tiananmen Square 20 years ago.

I wonder how short the walk will be from controlling reproduction to actively euthanizing those who drain the resources of the planet this time?

It may be soon, when the government implements universal healthcare. Once it becomes the government's responsibility to pay for your health, it will be the government's responsibility to "let you go" once they decide you're too expensive to keep alive. Denying a boy with Downs Syndrome residency in Australia is just a sneak peak of it:

This is not discrimination. A disability in itself is not grounds for failing the health requirement — it is a question of the cost implications to the community.
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Living Room / Re: How will the Earth end?
« Last post by Deozaan on December 17, 2008, 03:37 AM »
There is no overpopulation problem. There is a lot of room for all of us.
No there isn't - and there definitely isn't resources enough for all of us, which is the major problem.

Okay, so it turns into a "Nuh uh!" "Uh huh!" battle... :-\

Yes there is. And there are tons of resources for all of us.
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Living Room / Re: How will the Earth end?
« Last post by Deozaan on December 17, 2008, 03:23 AM »
To solve the over population problem countries need to start bring in one child policies

David, you live in China, a country where they actually do enforce a one-child policy--to the extent of killing any child unfortunate enough to come after the first.

That's called genocide.

There is no overpopulation problem. There is a lot of room for all of us.
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DC Gamer Club / Re: The Best Gaming Moments of 2008
« Last post by Deozaan on December 16, 2008, 10:37 PM »
Wouldn't scancode being pwned by p3lb0x be one of the best gaming moments of 2008?

When did this happen? What did I miss?
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Living Room / Re: How will the Earth end?
« Last post by Deozaan on December 16, 2008, 10:33 PM »
Sounds funny don't it?
I'm old enough to remember when "animal rights" and "PETA" were considered fringe, nutty, out there ideas.
Now they're pretty much mainstream, nearly all states have laws on the books defining animal cruelty with penalties for the transgressors.
Cock fighting and dog fights (remember Michael Vick?) haven't always been illegal........hard to fathom isn't it?
There are already some people out there who won't have children because of the "environment".
Meet the women who won't have babies - because they're not eco friendly
"Having children is selfish. It's all about maintaining your genetic line at the expense of the planet," says Toni, 35.
Consider that, then reread this thread.
It may take a few decades but The Voluntary Human Extinction Movement doesn't seem so far out there, does it?

It will always seems "far out there" to me, much like PETA and other animal rights activists who are more humane to animals than humans, but I wouldn't be surprised to see it become more widely adopted as the social norm in the not-too-distant future.
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Living Room / Re: How will the Earth end?
« Last post by Deozaan on December 16, 2008, 08:48 PM »
Here's the answer.
The Voluntary Human Extinction Movement
Phasing out the human race by voluntarily ceasing to breed will allow Earth's biosphere to return to good health. Crowded conditions and resource shortages will improve as we become less dense.
-the website

 ;D :P
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Living Room / Re: Childhood Memory
« Last post by Deozaan on December 16, 2008, 08:43 PM »
Though, another issue is that most Australians say, "Triple Oh", which confuses Zeros for Ohs. Recently with World Youth Day it was pointed out that we should say "Triple Zero" as someone who does not know may end up entering "666 666 666"

I've noticed that a lot of Americans use "Oh" in place of "Zero" when dealing with phone numbers as well. And that's how I remember my childhood phone number, because at the time when I learned it, I didn't make the distinction. In fact, any phone number that I learned before I noticed and made the distinction, I still say "oh" for "zero."

It's interesting, because my mother and I had cell phones that both started with the numbers 409. But she got hers a few years before I got mine, and I started making the distinction before I got mine, but after she got hers. So I remember her cell phone number as starting as "Four-Oh-Nine" but mine starts with "Four-Zero-Nine."
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Living Room / Re: Childhood Memory
« Last post by Deozaan on December 16, 2008, 11:25 AM »
I do. But I lived in the same house for the first 14 years of my life. 362-0305.
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Living Room / Re: Creative, awesome uses for Google
« Last post by Deozaan on December 16, 2008, 03:18 AM »
I didn't know about #4, but I frequently use Google for all the other ones (with the exception of weather, since normally I just don't care about the forecast).
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Living Room / Re: In-car GPS
« Last post by Deozaan on December 16, 2008, 03:14 AM »
No, I have no sense of direction either!
I forgot to mention there was a compass.
With a compass and having to follow a map, I can get around.
I'm sure she could, too  :D

It's possible but I don't think so. Maps don't seem to make much sense to her.
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Living Room / Re: Funny, Strange, and Confusing Error Messages
« Last post by Deozaan on December 16, 2008, 03:01 AM »
I don't think that. I am simply sceptical since I know that writing:
MsgBox "Can't joke properly!", 16, "Windows XP"
in notepad is not so hard :)
-fenixproductions (December 09, 2008, 06:09 PM)

That might be true, but plain text is a lot easier to fake than a screen shot.

In any case, maybe we should open the thread up to some funny error messages that may or may not be genuine. But I guess there are already entire websites devoted to that.
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Living Room / Re: In-car GPS
« Last post by Deozaan on December 16, 2008, 01:32 AM »
By the way, I just got an e-mail from TigerDirect.com about a one day only deal that specifically highlights GPS units.

TigerDirect.com One Day Only Sale Ends Midnight (Eastern Time) on December 16th.
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Living Room / Re: In-car GPS
« Last post by Deozaan on December 16, 2008, 01:20 AM »
The problem with your ideal romantic getaway #1 is that it requires a co-pilot who has a sense of direction. Unfortunately that rules out my wife.

And the problem with your disaster romantic getaway #2 is that it assumes a pilot who apparently doesn't know how to drive three meters without looking at a map/guide.

:P
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Living Room / Re: How will the Earth end?
« Last post by Deozaan on December 15, 2008, 09:39 PM »
The numbers also seem dubious to me. Did they really have the technology to accurately calculate the entire world's population in 1750? The greater part of the American continents were still unexplored by what was considered the "civilized" world back then. And surely the "uncivilized" parts of the world didn't take part in any global population census.
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Living Room / Re: How will the Earth end?
« Last post by Deozaan on December 15, 2008, 09:30 PM »
Yes that is what they show - but if you look at the first graph the population growth rates are (approximately):

11% in the first 50 years
29% in the next 50 years
31%
44%
139%

So in the last 50 years the population has increased by more than 139%

But that does not indicate in any way how close to capacity the earth is at. Who knows what the capacity of the earth is? Using both extremes as an example, if the earth was at 80% capacity 50 years ago, then yes we're already way over populated. But if the earth was at 3% capacity, a 139% increase means next to nothing. That's why those statistics don't help support the idea that the earth is overpopulated with human beings.

If population continues to grow and the desertification continues in the way it is at the moment where is the food growing to be grown. It is all very well saying that the world's population could fit into Utah - but if they all moved there what would they eat and drink - I hope they like cactus stew!

If the majority of the earth's human population lived in an area about the size of Utah, then deforestation and farming would likely no longer be a problem, as there would be plenty of land left over.
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Living Room / Re: How will the Earth end?
« Last post by Deozaan on December 15, 2008, 11:44 AM »
Which just reiterates my point: People who think they know what's best for the world are causing bigger problems.

Would you agree that ecology has both intrinsic and instrumental value for our species; therefore, not destroying the ozone layer is a good thing; not polluting the oceans, the water table, etc. are valuable behaviors in and of themselves? Come to the south side of St. Louis, Missouri, to Times Beach, and see an entire city that is abandoned like Chernobyl all because one guy wanted to save money by dumping dioxin in the ground. It's eery!

Of course there is intrinsic value for our species to have water we can drink and land that we can live on and grow food from. I don't know anybody who wants another Chernobyl in the world. I don't know anybody who really just wants to cut down all the trees, dump toxic waste into the ground, and kill all the animals.

We do need to be responsible. And we do that by taking personal responsibility. I'll refer back to Gandhi: "Be the change you want to see in the world."
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Living Room / Re: How will the Earth end?
« Last post by Deozaan on December 15, 2008, 11:36 AM »
Overpopulation is a myth?

Have a look at these:

A couple of charts showing an increase in the population means nothing except that population is increasing. Just because population has increased that does not mean it has become unsustainable given the Earth's natural resources and our ability to provide for ourselves. Even if the earth has never had this many human beings alive on it at the same time, that doesn't mean we've reached or surpassed capacity! It only means that it's more than it's ever been.
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Living Room / Re: How will the Earth end?
« Last post by Deozaan on December 15, 2008, 11:33 AM »
We are not excluded from nature - extinction for almost all species is part of nature.

I suppose the main difference with humans is that technology has distorted nature - and ultimately wars will occur when food/fuel availability drops. We can see that happening already in the world and we can see the human tragedy in Dafur.

If humans are part of nature, then why isn't technology also natural? Many animals use tools. Ours are just more sophisticated.

I think that ultimately when things get really bad for the western world, ie. poverty and starvation, not to mention malaria creeping to northern latitudes (as it is already), war will become a bigger fact as the consuming western society go out to grab what they can from other countries. At some point someone will get nuclear capability and some sort of apocalyptic end will happen.

I agree that we've become too much of a consumer society and that we have become crippled because of it. And yes, I too believe that it's only a matter of time before nuclear weapons are used again. However, I think that the human race will survive.

Incidentally I do see humans as evolved from primates (no problem there - I like bananas) but when you say:

I find it difficult to understand how it is so easy for you to deem human beings worthy of extinction while at the same time defending pests that, without keeping their population in control, will damage nature even more.

I think you miss my point in two ways:

First, I don't deem humanity worthy of distinction, it is just an inevitability in the natural course of events.

Point taken.

Second, how do 'pests', as you call them, damage nature? They are part of nature - the only thing that they do 'wrong' is to damage human interests.

For that matter, what exists on this planet that isn't a part of nature? Even things "created" by mankind came from natural elements and components.

If you want to take a religious view of this issue (personally I don't because I can't see how religion is relevant to life)

Then why bring it up?
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Living Room / Re: How will the Earth end?
« Last post by Deozaan on December 15, 2008, 10:53 AM »
The overwhelming fact in Carol's argument is this: the rate of human population growth over the past 200 years. Sure, many developed countries have long scaled back their birth rates, but how many religions on earth preach that its followers should have an "annual baby" come hell or high water? Sustainability is not possible without the energy sources needed for a decent human life.

Human overpopulation is a myth. You could fit the entire human population of the earth inside the same square mileage as the state of Utah and the population density would be lower than it is in New York City. Of course, we're going to run out of food soon anyway since we're growing it all to fuel vehicles instead of feeding people with it.

Which just reiterates my point: People who think they know what's best for the world are causing bigger problems.
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Living Room / Re: Recommendations for small, 4-port USB hub?
« Last post by Deozaan on December 15, 2008, 09:34 AM »
I can't answer your question directly, but I can say that I purchased a D-Link router and a D-Link wireless network card and shortly thereafter when the two started causing BSODs and their support was anything but supporting, I decided to never buy another D-Link product again.

My experience with D-Link as a company and with their products has not been pleasant and at this time I would not recommend D-Link to anybody.

That's pretty much all I can contribute on the subject of USB hubs.
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Living Room / Re: How will the Earth end?
« Last post by Deozaan on December 15, 2008, 09:25 AM »
"I'd like to share a revelation that I've had during my time here. It came to me when I tried to classify your species. I realized that you're not actually mammals. Every mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with the surrounding environment, but you humans do not. You move to an area, and you multiply, and multiply, until every natural resource is consumed. The only way you can survive is to spread to another area. There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. A virus. Human beings are a disease, a cancer of this planet, you are a plague, and we are the cure."

- Agent Smith: The Matrix.

Thanks mahesh2k that is a very good summary of my feelings.

There's a fundamental flaw in that quote. The fictional character of Agent Smith categorizes human beings as a cancerous virus while proclaiming his own "race" of machines as the cure for that cancer. Yet it is the machines who are enslaving, killing, and leeching off of the humans for their survival. That was not a symbiotic relationship. And I'm sure the machines had no need for rain forests, animals or natural beauty. Isn't that ironic?

It is all very well to say that humans are basically good. Most people I meet are kind, considerate, helpful in the extreme and thoroughly moral. There are very few people who seem not to be concerned with the destruction of the rainforest, mass extinctions and the awful pollution and physical devastation of the world.

The trouble is these sentiments don't inform the way people actually live (me included). Just as an example of where I live: I live in a beautiful oasis of apparent nature set aside as a National Park on a very crowded island (Britain). It all looks idyllic and everyone that comes here is impressed. What very few people realise is that the landscape as we see it today is wholly man made and is very little to do with nature. Gone are the forests, diverted are rivers and streams (which incidentally are polluted with chemical fertilizers and in some cases lead from a romanticised industrial past where children were forced to work in all weathers 14 hour shifts from the age of about 10). Every inch of the area is farmed in one form or another - even the wild open moorland (which impresses visitors with its wild bleakness) is farmed so that rich people can bring their shotguns and shoot grouse that have been especially reared for the privilege. Visible nature has suffered enormously (or to many eyes improved!) but there is a far more insidious effect on nature and that is that practically every wild animal is butchered to protect farming - badgers are gassed, foxes exterminated, rabbits infected with myxomatosis, stoats and weezles are trapped, moles are killed and strung along barbed wire fences, jackdaws are shot from the skies (and their carcasses hung in gardens to dissuade other jackdaws from coming near) ... the litany goes on and it is all purely to protect sheep farming. The moorlands are even worse treated. Practically anything that competes with the mega-buck grouse industry is exterminated - even birds of prey that have protected status, having been reintroduced by conservation groups, are deliberately poisoned.

As I say every single person (almost without exception) that do these truly awful things love where they live and would hate to see it 'spoiled', they love and care for their families, are good friends and neighbours and are thoroughly nice people.

I find it difficult to understand how it is so easy for you to deem human beings worthy of extinction while at the same time defending pests that, without keeping their population in control, will damage nature even more.

The rate at which humans are consuming resources, breeding and destroying natural resource that we depend on (such as bees which are rapidly becoming extinct world wide and without which we don't get any food) means that humanity will be extinct or extremely impoverished leading to extinction in the foreseeable future. We have no one to blame but ourselves and the problem is intractable because there are simply too many vested interests who won't allow change - and generally they consume the most anyway.

The funny thing about nature that you seem to think doesn't apply to humans is that it has a way of balancing itself out eventually. Whenever the wolf population gets too large and kills too many deer, there is a lack of food and the wolves die of starvation. It may take many years for the deer population to recuperate, but it will, and then the wolves will be back to start the cycle again. Are wolves any more restrained in their consuming of natural resources than humans are? And it's not just wolves. Even an overpopulation of deer could wipe out certain flora in the area.

You seem to recognize this with the statement below:

As for the rest of the natural world it will recover, things will change. New species will emerge, the will be a geological remnant in 400 million years that a future species will dig up and ponder over as they find pockets of plastic - now that will be a challenge for any future species interested in geology to decode! I'd like to be there to see that.

If you truly believe that humans are just evolved monkeys, animals ourselves, then why are we excluded from nature? Why are we not allowed the right to survive as a species? Isn't that what evolution is all about, "survival of the fittest"? Isn't evolution a part of nature? If so, then isn't it natural for "unfit" species to be eradicated to make way for the fittest?

But of course, we're not just animals. There's definitely something that makes us unique compared to animals. From what I understand, we're the only species who actually protect the old, sick, handicapped, or otherwise "weak" members of our species. We have compassion on each other and the earth's inhabitants. We have compassion to a fault, trying to meddle in affairs "for their own good" when we have no idea how to properly take care of things.

You bring up a good point by mentioning national parks. In the U.S. we've messed up the ecobiology of Yellowstone National Park so many times by protecting wolves and trying to get rid of them and other things like that. If we can't even figure out how to take care of the flora and fauna of an area set apart as a national natural reserve, how can we think we know what's best for the world? Or what species should live and die? It's this mentality of "I know what's best for everyone/everything" that's getting us into many of the current abhorrent situations we as a world are currently in.

It is often our compassion and our desire to do good that leads us to coddle and care for everything around us. We imagine this perfect Utopian world where no one has any problems. Where there are no struggles, no difficulties. Everything is abundant for everyone and everything. We attempt to protect everything--people, plants, animals, landscapes, etc.--as if we were trying to protect innocent and unspoiled infants.

But that's not how nature works. Nature needs struggle to survive. And I think it's hypocritical to say that it's wrong for human beings to make plants and animals extinct and in the same sentence say that the best thing for the planet and every other lifeform is the extinction of the human race. As you mentioned before, extinction isn't a new phenomena brought on by mankind.

I, for one, don't take too kindly to being called a cancer and being told that the world would be better off if I didn't exist. And I can't see how you can honestly believe yourself to be cancerous to the world and want for your own destruction, unless you're having mental struggles with depression and suicidality. And please don't take that the wrong way. I've been there before as well. Just two months ago I had a struggle with deep depression and feelings that my life was meaningless and that, at the least, the world wouldn't be any worse off without me. But that's a lie, and that's why depression is considered an illness that needs to be cured. You just aren't thinking straight when thoughts like that occur. The truth is that I may not have personally changed the world, but I would be sorely missed, if only locally, were I to suddenly become extinct. I'm not a great, amazing person, but a part of the world (again, even if only this local area) would be worse off had I never been born.

My contribution is small, and I bring my own problems with me, but I do what I can and it is good.
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