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General Software Discussion / Re: CNET Download Installer Changes
« Last post by Renegade on December 09, 2011, 12:31 AM »
Revenue sharing, so they're going with opencandy model ?
Yes, that's exactly what it seems to be stacking up to be, in one form or another. It's a parasitic model, and so it makes great commercial/business sense.
Of course, this would probably be done regardless of what the developers might actually think about the ethics of such a practice, and to shut any naysayers up they "share" the revenue (give them some of the loot).
Money can often hush the noisiest of mouths.

The plan was probably for a fait accompli, but the bad press botched that idea.
Which is probably why you haven't been given a glimmer of an idea about all these "mutually beneficial" plans before - i.e., until the bad press had to be mitigated.


Well, I'd say that the previous model without developer consent was parasitic, but here, I'm not so sure about that.

We all know where I stand on OpenCandy. I think it's a good idea. I went to lengths to illustrate what was going on inside of an OC powered installer here:

http://cynic.me/2011...pening-up-opencandy/

The short version is that OC asks the server to give it an offer for something that is not on your computer then displays that in the installer. No information is sent to the server. You can verify this with WireShark.

My current thoughts on CNET and begruding opportunities for developers to make a living:

http://cynic.me/2011...in-win-win-scenario/

The short version is that it looks like a win-win-win-win scenario to me.

  • Developers win because they get paid.
  • Users win because they get good software.
  • CNET wins because they have a business model that is profitable and that helps people.
  • CNET advertisers win because they get access to end users and can present them with an offer.

It also seems mean spirited to begrudge developers an honest opportunity to make a living just because it's not the same method that everyone else uses.

I know that my views are extremely unpopular with some. There's not much I can do about it. This is one of those areas where some of us have strong opinions and disagree.

I also know that my opinons on some related topics are considered extreme by some. e.g. I'm all for legalising prostitution because it's not going to go away, and it's better to have it run in an honest business fashion than to push it into the underworld where nothing good can come of it. I don't think that any of us have any right to throw stones at prostitutes for what they do.

By the same token, I don't think any of us have any right to throw stones at anyone for making an honest living.

If what you're doing genuinely isn't hurting anyone, and what you're doing really is helpful, then hey, all the more power to you.

CNET screwed up. People screamed. They're fixing it. It looks like they're going a very similar route to OpenCandy with things being voluntary, open, and ethical.

Nobody is getting hurt here.

Now, when it comes to how CNET will be carving up the pie, I certainly hope that they will be fair to developers. They could give developers crumbs (which I would agree is parasitic), or they could give developers a fair slice of the pie. I don't know what that is. We'll see. I rather doubt that they'll divulge that information, but it would be fantastic if they did. Transparency is a good thing.

Anyways. Just my $0.02. Feel free to rip on me for anything. I'm thick-skinned enough and can take it~! ;D :P




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Oh god...

I'm screaming inside... It's deafening... Quite literally, my ears are now ringing...
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I'm feeling an almost +1 for IainB's comments above...

What happened to this guy...

But I just can't...

I just cannot get past that what one does in one country is done in that country, and for another country to prosecute you for that is overstepping its jurisdiction.

Now, if you're *IN* Thailand and say something against the King or Queen, well, that's a different matter.

I think laws need to be taken in a cultural context (with some sanity injection of course), and that what works in one place may not work in another.

From what I have seen, the limit of freedom to speak out against the monarchy in Thailand isn't really that bad of a thing. From what I've seen and understand, the monarchy in Thailand works, and that protection for it seems to work.

But I'm no expert on the topic, and I could be totally off-base or misinformed. I simply don't know.

So, as I do plan on getting back to Thailand at some point, LONG LIVE THE KING~! ;D



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General Software Discussion / Re: how to run programs without altering the host pc
« Last post by Renegade on December 08, 2011, 08:56 AM »
Computers have come a long way since in a short time. You might want to give it a spin. You can get some free VMs and players as well, so there's no risk to try it out, other than your time.
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General Software Discussion / Re: how to run programs without altering the host pc
« Last post by Renegade on December 08, 2011, 08:04 AM »
Have you thought about using a VM?
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Living Room / Re: Kicked Off the Plane for Games
« Last post by Renegade on December 08, 2011, 05:35 AM »
Note: for the record, I really like Alec Baldwin as an actor. I think he's one of the better ones out there right now. :)

+1

He's great on 30 Rock!

He's even better in Team America: World Police

I haven't seen that yet.

But I pretty much love him in anything he does. He's one of those guys that can really make a flick shine.
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It took a long time.

I don't know WTF is up with the Seattle data center... I'm in Texas, and never have any problems there. None.

Isn't this like the second time they've had that same problem?
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Living Room / Re: Kicked Off the Plane for Games
« Last post by Renegade on December 07, 2011, 07:12 PM »
Dunno. I don't see any huge civil rights issue here. Or at least not one big enough to deserve taking a stand on.


True enough. The issue to me seems to be one of douchebaggery. Something all too prevalent in some industries/companies.


The real problem with incidents like this is they get lumped in with the real and serious complaints people have about airlines and airport security. As such, it diverts attention and dialog away from the incidents that really matter. Which is really a shame. Because there have been serious issues that need to be addressed.


Very true. Molesting children in airports is a much more serious issue than not playing games while the airplane is parked.

...

In the end, I don't know if there's really any difference between attention to this and that though. They're both equally ignored. 

Like how long has there been a ban on electronics? Flying in anything but the sunniest weather with no wind is far more dangerous. It's quite ridiculous, really.


<SIDE TRACK>
I suppose that I'm beyond disillusioned at this point though... I fail to understand why it's so horribly difficult to follow the scientific method, and why people cling to voodoo and superstition for things like this.
</SIDE TRACK>


But nothing gets done... People take on faith that if you make a phone call inside an airplane, it will blow up, Al Qaeda will win, World War III will start, and the sun will supernova.

On the child molestation front, it's only ok if it's Uncle Sam. And nothing can change that, because then the "terrorists" win and the sun still supernovas.


Truth be told, the terrorists already won. And they'll continue to win until sanity returns and all these "protections" stop.


Can you blame the guy for being pissed at having to put up with that?

Actually, yeah I can. When you're in an airport or on a flight you tend to run into improperly trained yet overly zealous individuals who are wearing the livery of some airline or carrying a badge of some sort. It's seldom worth arguing with these people since it seldom accomplishes anything other than to create an incident and cause inconvenience to everybody around you.


Yeah... It's pretty juvenile to throw a temper tantrum like that. Still... I can't help but see the original condition for the temper tantrum as completely irrational. Like, if someone wants to be irrational, why should that obligate anyone else to play by their irrational rules? Well... marriage and relationships excepted. :P

And yeah... The staff are just doing their jobs... It's not their fault. If they don't, they'll get fired, so I certainly can't blame them for that.

It's a bad situation to start. I don't see how anyone can expect it to end well. This is just further proof.



Note: for the record, I really like Alec Baldwin as an actor. I think he's one of the better ones out there right now. :)

+1

He's great on 30 Rock!


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General Software Discussion / CNET Download Installer Changes
« Last post by Renegade on December 07, 2011, 06:28 PM »
Looks like CNET is in the final stages of working out the kinks:

Email from CNET to Developers
A note from Sean
________________________________________
Download.com Developer Community,

My last communication to you was shortly after we launched the Download.com Installer in late summer. At that time I asked for patience as we began work to deliver a mutually beneficial model to market.

We are on the verge of fulfilling our vision of coming to market with an installer model that delivers files faster and more efficiently to users, while enabling developers to a) opt-in to the Installer, b) influence the offers tied to their files, c) gain reporting insight into the download funnel, and d) share in the revenue generated by the installer. However, due to some press that surfaced yesterday and the potential for subsequent misinformation, I am reaching out now to address that press and to provide a progress report on the upcoming launch:

First, on the press that surfaced yesterday: a developer expressed anger and frustration about our current model and how his file was being bundled. This was a mistake on our part and we apologize to the developer and user communities for the unrest it caused. As a rule, we do not bundle open source software and in addition to taking this developers file out of the installer flow, we have gone in and re-checked all open source files in our catalog. We take feedback from our developer & user communities very seriously and take pains to both act on it and respond in a timely manner.

With that, I want to share progress made thus far: This week we will launch the alpha phase of our new installer. This alpha phase is intended to test the tech and do QA, and will roll through the next few weeks to ensure that our installer is bug free. Between this week and the end of January we will be completing the necessary engineering and administrative work to roll out our beta, which will include a small group of developers who've agreed to participate in the beta launch. Our goal is to exit beta by end of February and have the necessary systems in place to enable opt-in, influence over advertising offers (for those offers that impact your product), download funnel reporting and revenue share back to you, the developers. In the weeks/months following the full release, we will continue to iterate on the model, adding more features to the Installer and bringing greater efficiency to our own download funnel (read: increased install conversion).

The initial feedback from developers on our new model has been very positive and we are excited to bring this to the broader community as soon as possible. More communication will follow as we move into Q1, and until then, thank you for continuing to work with Download.com.

Sincerely,

-- Sean

Sean Murphy
Vice President & General Manager



I'm posting the entire email there because it's only sent to the developer community.

Anyways, looks like they're shifting into the right direction.

People screamed. They listened. Too bad government didn't work that way. :P




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Living Room / Re: Kicked Off the Plane for Games
« Last post by Renegade on December 07, 2011, 04:53 PM »
Meh...

I'm not really all that sympathetic with the airlines.

There's zero evidence to show that playing a game on a phone will cause any sort of interference with any of the planes systems, and the airlines haven't put any effort into it. Instead, it's easier to make a rule/law/mess of it and piss people off. Heck, that creates jobs because you can employ more security and put more people in prisons... But I digress...

Air travel has become one of the most unpleasant experiences. The airlines have fed into it as well, rather than fighting bad legislation. They've taken the path of least resistance. Heck, if it's a PITA to travel with any airline, there's no competitive disadvantage for anyone and no motive or incentive to make things any better.

Sitting at a gate, and having someone repeat some idiotic drivel about how the plane will crash and the end of the world will come... god... Can you blame the guy for being pissed at having to put up with that? Especially when it really and truly is drivel?

Mind you, this is the same industry that thinks it's ok to sexually assault children...  :-\




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Living Room / Kicked Off the Plane for Games
« Last post by Renegade on December 07, 2011, 04:19 PM »
Well, a caution about flying with American Airlines I suppose...

http://www.cbc.ca/ne...-baldwin-flight.html

A flight attendant was the subject of a Twitter tirade from Alec Baldwin after the actor was booted from an American Airlines plane at Los Angeles International Airport for playing a word game on his cellphone as the plane was about to depart for New York.

The 30 Rock actor was playing a game called Words with Friends while the plane idled at a gate Tuesday, said Baldwin's spokesman, Matthew Hiltzik.

"He loves Words with Friends so much that he was willing to leave a plane for it," said Hiltzik, who added that Baldwin boarded another American Airlines flight to New York.

And this just after China Airlines has come out with laptops and whatever do not pose any problems. (I forget the reference. Saw it in the news a week or so ago.)



I wonder if he'll be labeled as a terrorist...


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Living Room / Re: I Remember...
« Last post by Renegade on December 07, 2011, 04:14 PM »
Anybody else remember this one, or something like it?

I distantly remember some sort of building... I remember it was thoroughly enjoyable... I spent a lot of time there as a kid. Saturday mornings and afternoons there if I recall properly... It was full of 1 thing... something... an infinite source of knowledge and entertainment... what was it called...

Oh.

A library.


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Living Room / Re: I Have an Itch for a Video Camera...
« Last post by Renegade on December 07, 2011, 01:31 PM »
BTW - Does anyone know where I can get a keno?

As in like this?
 (see attachment in previous post)
 :huh:



Ooops...

Sorry - a "kino":



Like that.
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As for touchscreens, yep, they are pretty crap at the moment. I imagine they will remain so for another 10 years - until flexible and "softtouch" screens are available (or whenever that will be).

Ahem...



;)

You don't need to understand Korean to get the point there, but they're already here. :D

What would you call a display that's like paper? Displayper~! :) (Bought the domain a while back.)
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Living Room / Re: I Have an Itch for a Video Camera...
« Last post by Renegade on December 07, 2011, 11:15 AM »
As long as it functions after a jump through a stargate I'll be happy. ;D

Point me to the Stargate - that'll make me happy~! :D

BTW - Does anyone know where I can get a keno?
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The pass phrase idea I've always liked ... 25 character random strings is just begging for trouble.

+1 for that!

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Living Room / Re: AFT! Blocking Google Nonsense is HERE!
« Last post by Renegade on December 06, 2011, 10:24 PM »
I can only suppose that he maybe doesn't have the ad-blocking features in his browser that I (and lots of others) have.

To be honest, I've given up on extensions. Most of the ones that I've used have simply been horrible. IF they even work, they grind the browser to a halt very quickly.

I used to use a few, but simply got sick of the sluggishness. I have far fewer problems with just the simple, stock browser. Some things I'll install, but ONLY if they're 1,000% necessary and I can't live without them, e.g. Firebug.

I still think that this is in part due to extensions using JavaScript. I simply loathe the language. It's just not a good language for the web anymore. It's slow and destroys the user experience far too easily with umpteen trillion "web developers" <insert profanity here /> writing quadrillions of lines of code for every web page.

Pages simply have far too much scripting in them now. And JavaScript isn't the right thing to deal with that. It's procedural. It's not an OO language. It fakes OO, but it's not. HTML is declarative. Like how does a procedural language fit with a declarative one? XML/XSL/XSLT works very nicely together because you have a functional language working with a declarative one. They work well together. They're elegant.

I recently TRIED to read a CNET news article... Nearly impossible. The page was so heavy with crap in it that I could barely scroll. No problems elsewhere. (I just installed another 8 GB of RAM in this box as well.) Bad page.

I just don't have the patience to deal with <insert more profanity here /> insanity on the web.

I just want the pages to render quickly so that I can quickly get through what I want/need on them, then GTFO.

Now, I have used some extensions that actually were pretty decent, but when push came to shove, they still slowed things down too much.

If we're going to have a hundred kajillon burble-farts of scripts running on every page, something a bit more sane than JavaScript would make the web a much better experience.

I think Microsoft really had it right with their basic architecture for running code in a web page. BHOs simply perform beautifully. Compiled plugins just work. I'm not saying "lets' run lots of ActiveX" or anything like that. I just mean that they had things working better.

If browsers are going to do heavy lifting, they need heavy lifting tools. JavaScript isn't for heavy lifting.

Then again, I could just be far less patient than most people...

</end rant> :P


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Hahahaha~!

+1 and AMEN~! ;D

I just posted a bit of a rant on web sites/the web/browsers/web developers the other day:

1 Reason to Hate the Web

It’s not just the fault of the browsers though. Web developers suffer from some combination of 1 or more of these problems:

  • Being completely and totally mentally retarded
  • Being subservient to a project manager that is completely and totally mentally retarded
  • Being subservient to a project manager that is subservient to budgetary requirements that are completely and totally mentally retarded

Take your pick.

I loved that "Go die in a fire"! ;D

Today my murderous rage was directed towards D-Link and <insert profanity here /> around for nearly 2 hours (or maybe 1 hour -- it felt damn long anyways) because it decided that it just damn well didn't feel like allowing any wireless connections no matter what. Multiple reboots and power-offs and FINALLY the <insert more profanity here /> thing allowed connections... Fantasies of barbed wire-wrapped baseball bats as a slight variation of your "Alternatively" danced around in my head. But I really did love the alternatively~! That would be satisfying to see. :P

Today so far has definitely been a "I <insert further profanity here - don't hold back /> hate computers" day.



And thank you for the laugh~! :D
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DC Website Help and Extras / Re: attack of uggs
« Last post by Renegade on December 06, 2011, 12:05 PM »
Yeah... it's getting bad. Blacklist "ugg" maybe?

Waiting might help... Not sure if it's viable though.
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Living Room / Re: AFT! Blocking Google Nonsense is HERE!
« Last post by Renegade on December 06, 2011, 11:59 AM »
@Renegade
"Manage blocked sites" looks like you need to be constantly googled-in. Am I right?
-fenixproductions (December 06, 2011, 09:46 AM)

Maybe. Not sure. Just glad that finally I can block the SEO spammers.
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Living Room / AFT! Blocking Google Nonsense is HERE!
« Last post by Renegade on December 06, 2011, 09:00 AM »
Oh god... it's about ****ing time...

Google is just full of s**t. But they've got this now:

Screenshot - 2011-12-07 , 1_56_09 AM.png


Screenshot - 2011-12-07 , 1_55_18 AM.png

If you go back to Google, you may see the first one there. The second is after blocking.

That's going to be VERY useful!

I so hate dirty SEO scumbags... Like why would you lure me to your site when nothing you have is remotely relevant? Sheesh...


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Oh god, I love this guy!

Quote - NSFW
Conclusion: everything is fucked and i hate computers.


Amen to that! ;D

The guy hits so many things bang on.

For banks... Some of them should be charged with criminal negligence for their crappy security. e.g. A quote from him:

ING Direct: 6–10 digits

It gets worse... The Commonwealth Bank of Australia requires 6 digits and exactly 6 digits... Ahem... Perhaps they should be charge with criminal idiocy...



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Living Room / Re: I Have an Itch for a Video Camera...
« Last post by Renegade on December 05, 2011, 05:29 AM »
The Hero has a 3D system to go with it:

http://gopro.com/hd-...ries/3d-hero-system/

I'm thinking about going 3D to start... Hmmm... So many juicy things!
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This is hilarious!



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Developer's Corner / Re: Writing to Form1 textbox from Form2
« Last post by Renegade on December 04, 2011, 08:32 PM »
^ OK.  I can go with that. :)

I probably should have been clearer about when it's a good/bad idea to do that.

I think it's a fantastic trick for prototyping though. For the sake of a half dozen lines of code, you can "get it working" and have a look-feel before you rip it out and scrap the idea or move on and replace it with the kind of code that you posted above.

Admittedly, I use it for quickly prototyping.

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