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« Last post by Renegade on January 20, 2012, 08:41 PM »Does anyone think this is a good idea?
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A 23-year-old student is facing extradition to the US, and possibly five years in a federal prison, after the British courts ruled he should face charges of copyright infringement for linking to websites hosting pirated content.
Fact is that humans have limited amounts of energy/resources, and when they are overwhelming consumed by just trying to get by, well... go figure. They don't have time/energy/resources to do the work needed to become informed about politics.
When everything runs from 9 to 5, and they're at work, they have no opportunity to do anything. They're excluded from participating because they need to work to live.-Renegade (January 20, 2012, 07:36 AM)
Exactly. Now compound that by the convoluted manner in which the issues are addresses during election debates/interviews. The one classic example that always stuck with me was when ABC's Charlie Gibson interviewed Sara Palin. He asked her a simple direct Yes-on-No question. She responded by babbling for 10 minutes straight, and never once said yes, no, or even addressed the friggin question. Charlie countered by re-asking he exact same question and directly specified that he was looking for a Yes-or-No reply. Her response? 10 more minutes of distracted puppet shit.
When a politician answers a direct question the only thing that can be guaranteed...Is that nobody in the room will have the slightest clue what the fuck their talking about. Because it's just one long string of complete bullshit.
Now let one of us try that shit in a court of law... HA!
I want to see politicians subjected to the exact same treatment that any other crackhead junkie whore would be given if they got evasive in court. <-- Senator... If the next word out of your mouth isn't either yes...or no ... Your ass is going to jail for somewhere between 90 days and whenever I damn well feel like you've learned your lesson. --> Now that's a government that fears its people.-Stoic Joker (January 20, 2012, 11:50 AM)
In the case of many of the big-name "blackouts" from sites like Wikipedia, Google, or Reddit, I was not impressed with the follow-through used. Google turned their logo black. Wikipedia's blackout was only for the English site and easily overridden with (or due to lack of) javascript. Reddit only did it for half of the day.
IMO those are examples of half-hearted protests. If you're going to protest something you should first come up with an effective form of protest and then commit to follow through with the protest.-Deozaan (January 20, 2012, 11:16 AM)
This I understand, as I too was looking for a bit more - all in - carnage.-Stoic Joker (January 20, 2012, 12:18 PM)
Says it all really - and in calm rational terms-Carol Haynes (January 19, 2012, 09:16 AM)
Another interesting article from Ars on the whole MegaUpload raid:
Why the Feds Smashed MegaUpload
And an interesting footnote on MegaUpload
Before shutdown, Megaupload ate up more corporate bandwidth than Dropbox-wraith808 (January 20, 2012, 10:23 AM)
^ Nice post, Renegade +1-wraith808 (January 20, 2012, 10:26 AM)
@Ren - yeah. That about nails it.
I think you need to add coffin box after cartridge box to cover the whole life cycle however.-40hz (January 20, 2012, 10:30 AM)
I think 3 works better though. (Pine box -- yeah -- that works!)
I agree that 2012 will be pivotal. The hideous shadow of world government is looming. It's becoming (well, has been becoming for years) a world of sheeple ruled by the elite.-kyrathaba (January 20, 2012, 07:06 AM)
It's just bang on!Maybe it's just too much to expect of them
...and whoa, the indictment contains details of the "conspiracy members' " (aka Megaupload staff) private conversations and private emails to each other. That's before any boxes were seized or defendants questioned.-tranglos (January 20, 2012, 06:19 AM)
hahahahahahaa~! (That was serious.)This is one of the few sites with NSFW hiding buttons. I like that. Are users (Not mods) putting those on their posts and how do you do it?
Y'all are right that there's the Bluenose theme quietly silencing the far edges of the responses we'd really rather make. It's a really bounded version of the school bully trick "I'll bully you because I know the teachers won't care / be around every time, then when you lose your cool it will be when they conveniently are."
And re: your metaphor - there's lots of them to help with the ...-TaoPhoenix (January 20, 2012, 03:19 AM)
What kind of unbelievable pace is this going at?! Damn I wish InternetSpeed was left for Kittens.-TaoPhoenix (January 20, 2012, 03:25 AM)
That's just insane. And that image... @MollyWood's tweet? Yeah... I agree 100%If you think the people behind the Patriot Act, DHS, and Gitmo will let this stand? You're insane.-wraith808 (January 19, 2012, 09:59 PM)
The conspicuously timed raid “on Megaupload Thursday proved that the feds don’t need SOPA or its sister legislation, PIPA, in order to pose a blow to the Web,” writes the AnonOps Communications blog.
http://rt.com/usa/ne...ion-authorities-231/American authorities helped issue arrests on Thursday for four people in New Zealand that they say are responsible for the website.
Ahem... Since when do "American authorities" have jurisdiction in New Zealand?
Does anyone get where this is going? Global police? Police state? Police planet?-Renegade (January 19, 2012, 08:26 PM)
That was where I was going next. All of these arrests were not made in America. Which makes the timing doubly suspicious as that type of thing takes coordination. What makes it worse is actually this line...The agency said it executed more than 20 search warrants in the United States and eight countries...
That kind of thing takes massive coordination.-wraith808 (January 19, 2012, 09:29 PM)
My sources tell me the timing of the Megaupload arrests was no accident. The federal government, they say, was spoiling for a fight after the apparent defeat of SOPA/PIPA and not a little humiliation at the hands of the Web. And what better way to bolster the cause for cyber-crackdown than by pointing to a massive display of cyber-terrorism at the hands of everyone's favorite Internet boogeyman: Anonymous?
If the SOPA/PIPA protests were the Web's moment of inspiring, non-violent, hand-holding civil disobedience, #OpMegaUpload feels like the unsettling wave of car-burning hooligans that sweep in and incite the riot portion of the play. The result is always riot gear, tear gas, arrests, injury, and a sea of knee-jerk policies, laws, and reactions that address the destructive actions of a few, and not the good intentions of the many.
I don't truly know whether Anonymous was cleverly goaded into #OpMegaUpload. But I do know that an attack this big on this many government sites will effectively erase those good Internet vibrations that were rattling around Capitol Hill this week and harden the perspective of legislators and law enforcement who want to believe that the Web community is made up of wild, law-breaking pirates. That, ultimately, may help strengthen the business--and the emotional--case for the pro-SOPA, pro-PIPA lobby. Did the feds just get the last lulz?
I'm afraid it's going to get much worse before it gets any better. Not just on the copyright front.-tranglos (January 19, 2012, 05:29 PM)
I feel it's best that I don't go into what I really think...as I fear I may end up making Renegade look tame. So I will simply suffice with saying, the prospects are indeed horrifying.-Stoic Joker (January 19, 2012, 06:31 PM)
)As a sidenote, the Anonymous have responded. Try accessing www.justice.gov or www.universalmusic.com now.-tranglos (January 19, 2012, 05:29 PM)
Sounds like a good start. I'm all in favor of a scorched earth response from the masses.-Stoic Joker (January 19, 2012, 06:31 PM)
If SOPA passes. We will break things.
American authorities helped issue arrests on Thursday for four people in New Zealand that they say are responsible for the website.
^ It's not necessarily the elite that cause that spiral. In many cases, it's the little people that are co-enablers of the elite's ability to cause such damage, i.e. the US Political System.-wraith808 (January 19, 2012, 11:07 AM)
Societies eventually crumble under the evil weight of their own decadent greed. Human history shows this to be true. Woe to our children's children if the good old US of A doesn't shape up.-kyrathaba (January 19, 2012, 08:17 AM)
Societies eventually crumble under the evil weight of the elite's decadent greed.
SOPA is the "Stop Online Piracy Act." It's a shitty piece of legislation put together by puppetmaster lobbyists and politician puppets who don't know IP addresses from their assholes. My problem with this huge online protest against SOPA, and the reason I rarely take part in such protests, is because it doesn't address any problems, only the symptom. The problem isn't this shitty bill, it's the people who sponsored it. So we protest this bill today, bang enough pots and pans to shame a few backers into not letting this bill pass, then what? Those same dipshits who wrote this legislation still have jobs. They're going to try again, and again, and again until some mutation of this legislation passes. They'll sneak it into an appropriation bill while nobody's looking during recess, because there's too much lobbyist money at stake for them not to. We defeat SOPA today, only to face it again tomorrow. It's like trying to stop a cold by blowing your nose. It's time we go after the virus.
SOPA is the "Stop Online Piracy Act." It's a shitty piece of legislation put together by puppetmaster lobbyists and politician puppets who don't know IP addresses from their assholes. My problem with this huge online protest against SOPA, and the reason I rarely take part in such protests, is because it doesn't address any problems, only the symptom. The problem isn't this shitty bill, it's the people who sponsored it. So we protest this bill today, bang enough pots and pans to shame a few backers into not letting this bill pass, then what? Those same dipshits who wrote this legislation still have jobs. They're going to try again, and again, and again until some mutation of this legislation passes. They'll sneak it into an appropriation bill while nobody's looking during recess, because there's too much lobbyist money at stake for them not to. We defeat SOPA today, only to face it again tomorrow. It's like trying to stop a cold by blowing your nose. It's time we go after the virus.
Now that will have shown 'em!-Tuxman (January 19, 2012, 02:38 AM)
And.. we're back!
That was a very long 24 hours offline -- felt like a month to me.
And by the way it seems like the internet protests have had an effect: http://arstechnica.c...onents-in-senate.ars-mouser (January 19, 2012, 12:06 AM)
