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5951
Computers show up fine. The directories that are shared with "Advanced Sharing" show up on each computer. But apparently the permissions don’t allow any computer to access any shared folders on any other computer. Settings are fine - I have gone over them with every and anybody who has taken a look at them. I have looked at the same settings on other home networks where all is working well. Settings are the same yet access is not there.


Thanks!

Jim

You're not crazy. Or stupid. I've run into that a few times in mixed Windows version networks that have Windows 7 machines.

Sometimes the only way to get around it was to create a new network location and set up sharing from scratch. 99% of the time it's the name of the workgroup that's causing problems. Sometimes just deleting what's there and re-keying it into a WinXP box fixes the issue after a reboot

But before you go to that extreme, check out this article by Microsoft and work your way through it.

If you take your time and check everything step-by-step I'm fairly confident you'll find that one missing piece of information or the settings misconfiguration that's causing your problems.

If it doesn't, the next most likely cause is a screwed up Group Policy setting in the <Computer Configuration><Security Settings><Local Policies> section. That's a headache if so - so try the easy suggestions in the Microsoft article first.

If it still doesn't work, c'mon back here and we'll figure it out together. :)
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40hz, thank you for all that info!! Sounds like a very good starting point for me to get moving and learn this stuff.   :)


Jim

Any time Jim. Glad to have you come along to try "nix" out.

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Ok...


I'd like to suggest to Mouser we get a child board set up for Gnu/Linux specific threads. I used to be opposed to the idea of setting it off by itself. But there's enough interest now that it probably wouldn't hurt to put it in it's own area where it would be easier to find rather than having it scattered throughout the General Software's main section.

Sound good? Or does anybody want to take a poll or have a discussion about it first? It makes sense to me, but not everybody may agree. So what do the rest of think? Any: Ideas? Opinions? Objections? Questions?

Somebody please start a new thread on it? I'd do it myself, but I've already made up my mind. So maybe it would be better if somebody who is still undecided took up point on this?

Just my 2¢ :)
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I swear by Exact Audio Copy for ripping. :-*

 And my archive files are all FLAC. I'll convert something to MP3 if I need it in a tighter format. But at least with lossless formats all the music is there to begin with. Which gives you much more running room if you ever decide to re-encode.

And with the advent of mufti-tetrabyte drives (at affordable prices) filesize isn't the issue it used to be.

I'm sold on flac. :Thmbsup:
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Found Deals and Discounts / Re: DrawPlusX5 50% on BDJ
« Last post by 40hz on March 09, 2012, 09:06 AM »
Not a bad thing these days. Better to err on the side of caution when in doubt. Wish more of my clients did. :Thmbsup:

But then you'd probably have fewer clients.  ;D

That's happened anyway. Damn all those web hosted apps!  ;) :P

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one think I am picking up from this is that I probably should re-encode all my CDs - that it is likely that the ogg encoder I used in 2000 could have been of lower quality than the one I could use now (although it was not the one in ffmpeg). And I have much better processing power now so it should be less painful.
Who am I kidding, this would take months - there's between 300 and 500 CDs in that basement, if not more :S
That sort of tedium would be makework akin to sharpening a mountain of pencils.       :D

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@iphigenie - If you do in fact decide you absolutely must re-encode 500 CDs, I can give you the name of an excellent psychologist I know. She specializes in the treatment of OCD.
 ;D
5956
I'm not trying to find that perfect flat seventh chord in some song.

Most musicians trying to play one don't either. So no worries! ;D :Thmbsup:
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Strangley I found a link on Canon Australia for a Linux printer driver, Can I install an RPM package in UBUNTU or MINT?
-Carol Haynes (March 09, 2012, 06:43 AM)

You can using the Alien utility. It's not the recommended way to do things although it usually works correctly in most cases. At least from my experience. YMMV. But I also never tried to use it to load anything very exotic.

The real problem is that each distro handles dependencies differently so there's a risk of dependency conflicts. You can also run into that between major versions of the same distro if you mix and match repositories. (Sort of like trying to use WinXP drivers with Windows 7. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't.)  All just part of the 'version' game. See below:

Alien converts an RPM package file into a Debian package file or Alien can install an RPM file directly. This is not the recommended way to install software packages in Ubuntu. If at all possible, install packages from Ubuntu's repositories using Add/Remove, apt-get, or the Synaptic Package Manager. Package dependency conflicts may occur when attempting to install RPM packages. The Synaptic Package Manager may be able to fix or remove any broken packages.

See here for details.

I'd suggest having Alien convert the RPM to a Deb package and then install from that rather than using the direct install from RPM option. I'm a firm believer in minimizing variables when going off the reservation for software.

Luck!
5958
Living Room / Re: Apple & book publishers may be sued for price fixing
« Last post by 40hz on March 09, 2012, 01:15 AM »
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5959
Well, time to read up on Linux, though I have to say that all the talk of about 800 gazillion "distro's" along with which does what well but not this or that - has been what has kept me away for the most part.

Jim

Hey Jim. No need to drive yourself crazy with the 317 active distributions currently being monitored by Distrowatch. Here's what you need to know to start:

1) Virtually every distribution is based on (and uses the software repositories of) only one of three main distributions. They are (in order of popularity) Debian, RedHat, and Slackware. There are a few exceptions (Gentoo, Arch, plus a small number of others) - but these are specialist or advanced versions of Linux that you don't need to be concerned about when you're just starting out.

2) The main difference between the three core distros is their software repositories and package managers.

3) Repositories are the collections of software that are designed and tested to work with a particular distribution. Since creating and maintaining a software repository is a large undertaking, almost every other Linux distro uses one of the major three repositories as its core software source. Some supplement their main source with additional collections or "repositories" of their own.

4) Package managers are the preferred way to install software on a Linux PC. They're very automated systems. You generally just select what you want and tell the package manager to install your selection. The software is then downloaded from the repositories via the web and loaded onto you machine. The package manager also keeps track of what is on your system and keeps track of available updates. So a package manager is something like a cross between the Microsoft installer, the add/remove software control panel, the registry, and Microsoft update.

5) Package managers are the biggest difference between Linux distros. In practice, there are four main ones in use. Debian-based distros use apt. RedHat-based distros use something called yum or rpm. And Slackware uses slackpkg. There are other package managers than the prevuiously listed ones. But they're something you won't need to think about unless you pick a distro that uses one. And since they all work much the same way, learning a different package manager is usually not a challenge. Most modern distros also hide the complexities of the above package managers with pretty and informative GUI front ends. So in day to day use, you'll mainly browse a catalog, select what you want installed, and hit the go button. Piece of cake!

6) If you're new to Linux from Windows, the concept of a "windows manager" in Linux may cause you some initial confusion. Up until Metro and Windows 8, Microsoft only had one supplied windows manager (Explorer) you used whether you liked it or not. You could customize it with something like Stardock. But it pretty much was what it was. This is what companies like Apple and Microsoft are talking about when they talk about their "user experience." They're mostly talking about their window manager or main user interface (aka desktop).

Since Linux is all about choice, there are many different windows managers to choose from. Although all provide much the same utility, each has it's own way of doing things. And each is better at some things than others. That said, it's nothing to worry about when you first start out. All you need to know is that there are two major windows managers that account for about 85% of all Linux desktops. One is called Gnome. The other is called KDE.

Without getting into a long discussion (opinions run high on the choice of windows managers) you're probably best off starting with Gnome as your desktop. It's similar enough to Windows that you shouldn't experience much of a learning curve. And it's a fine desktop in it's own right.

7) Almost all the major distros now provide what are called "live CDs" in addition to their regular installation media. Live CDs are exactly that. You can boot from them into a ready to go Linux desktop. They let you run Linux without actually installing it on your machine. It's a painless way to test out a promising looking distro. (Live CDs have other uses in the LInux universe, but you'll find out about that soon enough.) If you like what you see you can also use that same live CD to install the distro on your hard drive. Which is what you'll want to do since loading things off the CD will slow down the apparent performance of the distro in question. Live CDs can make Linux feel sluggish. But in a hard drive, Linux is as fast (and often faster than) other operating systems. So don't try to judge responsiveness off a live CD.

Now lets get specifics...

If you're just starting out, I'd recommend getting a Debian-based distro that uses Gnome as it's default windows manager. Most beginners find that the easiest way to get into the Linux game. I'd personally suggest you make Linux Mint your first port of call for a lot of reasons it would take too long to recap. Google it if you want to read reviews and discussions. Linux Mint has a great community of users and developers. Maybe not as great as DonationCoder's is :mrgreen:, but you can't have everything.

I'd also recommend you cruise by the Distrowatch website and take a gander at all the goodies they keep track of. Once you get a little more experience you'll find Distrowatch an excellent resource.

Lastly, I'd recommend you take your time and have some fun. Right now, you have the luxury of not absolutely needing to learn or use Linux. That gives you flex and some running room. Take advantage of it. Download and play with some live CDs. Check out Gnome and KDE to see what they're all about and which you prefer. Maybe even do an initial test install on your hard drive. Linux can peacefully coexist on the same drive as Windows, and set itself up to allow for booting into either operating system. Try getting Windows to be that polite.

Questions - just open up a new thread at DoCo if you're stumped or want to talk about something. There are several Linux users in the DC membership willing to help. And also enough members that don't like Linux to keep the discussions honest and prevent it from turning into a penguin love fest.

Superboy started a thread a while back which addresses some of the questions you probably have. Give it a read and possibly post any questions you have there so we can keep it all in one place.

Well, I've managed to sidestep Linux over the years, but now it's time.  I'm doing it...I'm going to start transitioning to Linux.

I'm tired of feeling guilty by trying to get my Windows system to do exactly the things I want.  I've noticed most of the interesting developments have been stifled in recent years because of all the copyright issues.  The Linux guys really are my crowd.  All open, all free...it's what I believe in.

I don't know how long it will take, it took me a year to transition from XP to Win7, so I imagine this may take me a couple of years.  But i don't want to pay money anymore to faceless companies.  I want to be part of a community that helps each other out regardless of how much they get paid, and that's the Linux community.  And I'll gladly give them my money before the other guys.

I've been pushing the limits of Windows for a while now.  I keep running into obstacles, not because I'm pushing the technology, but because copyright concerns are preventing the technologies from developing.  My ideas of what I want to do with my computer should NOT feel like I'm the first person to ask for something like this.  I'm really not that clairvoyant.  I've struggled with the cloud for a couple of years now, and there's no need for it.  Let the masses deal with the proprietary stuff and all the headaches that come along with it.  I want to be with the guys that are freely exploring their ideas.

Where's Zaine?  Z...I'm joining the club, I'm going underground.  I held off as long as I could.
 (see attachment in previous post)

Luck! And welcome aboard.  :Thmbsup:
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Living Room / Re: For the LULZ or for the FBI? (Get ready to cry...)
« Last post by 40hz on March 08, 2012, 04:32 PM »
Not too long ago people predicting the Feds were inside were called "Tin Foil Hatters". But the scary part is that for every "Tin Foil Hat" theory, half of them ARE true!

There's an old saying attributed to the Russians and the Irish. I'll give the Russian version:

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This must go no further than your ears...

Any time four men meet in a cellar to plot to overthrow the Czar, three are fools - and the fourth is Oprichina.*

(*Secret Police)
 ;D

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Found Deals and Discounts / Re: DrawPlusX5 50% on BDJ
« Last post by 40hz on March 08, 2012, 03:04 PM »
Thanks 40hz. 
I was just being a little too cautious... paranoid  :-\

Not a bad thing these days. Better to err on the side of caution when in doubt. Wish more of my clients did. :Thmbsup:
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Living Room / Re: Why I Pirate - An Open Letter to Content Creators
« Last post by 40hz on March 08, 2012, 03:02 PM »
They might call it "shareholder value" or "the interests of the corporation" and just because it is interpretable in a court (many 'higher' laws are challenged in court too) doesn't mean it's not being practiced.

One read:
law.bepress.com/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=2238&context=expresso 1.4MB PDF

Thx! Much appreciated. :)
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Living Room / Re: For the LULZ or for the FBI? (Get ready to cry...)
« Last post by 40hz on March 08, 2012, 02:45 PM »
Here's a good Zen koan for would-be revolutionaries: What is the sound of one cell door slamming?

I like that.  And it doesn't just apply to revolutionaries.  That's one of the main things they show on Beyond Scared Straight... when people come in and are friendly, they show how easy it is to turn them on each other.

It's an understandable thing. When confronted with the reality of staring at the walls of an 8 x 10 concrete box (with steel-barred lid) - and facing the mind-deadening and unremitting (by design) misery of prison life for a significant portion of the years in your life -  it's a tough thing to face. No such thing as atheism in a foxhole, or nonchalance in a prison.

So know yourself. Know who your real friends are. And above all, know what you're getting into.

Not to say there's nothing worth going to jail over. Or that the threat of jail alone should be our final arbiter for actions taken in the name of morality. It's just that it's important to realize that prison is one of authority's two responses to what it considers unacceptable behavior.

The other is poverty BTW. Those who don't "play the game" usually either get thrown into jail - or marginalized to the fringes of society. Keeping malcontents poor and desperate for their survival needs is also used to control those portions of society that the people in power consider to be low-grade trouble. People that are trying to make rent and find something to eat don't tend to embrace political causes. They're too busy trying to stay alive. And as long as a carefully modulated welfare system keeps the difficulties just within the range of bearable, there's usually small chance of such financially induced suffering flaring into an all out rebellion.

It's a neat trick. One that worked for the old Roman Empire.

And one that still works for our modern ones.

So it goes. :'(

 8)
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Living Room / Re: Why I Pirate - An Open Letter to Content Creators
« Last post by 40hz on March 08, 2012, 02:24 PM »
Living in a society/system where in some jurisdictions public companies are required by law to maximize profits it is almost naive to expect less from them.

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@rgdot - I often hear the argument that there are places where public businesses are legally required to maximize profit as opposed to acting in a fiscally responsible manner.  These two things are similar in goal - but not the same thing under law.

Are you aware of any place in the western world where a business is required at all times to maximize profit under penalty of law? I've been searching for such a thing for a long time (more out of personal curiosity than anything else) and I haven't ever been able to identify such a jurisdiction or law. Not surprising when you're as ignorant about international business law as I am. ;D

Any input would be greatly appreciated.  :)

Anyone have the answer? Anyone? Anyone?
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Living Room / Re: Why I Pirate - An Open Letter to Content Creators
« Last post by 40hz on March 08, 2012, 02:14 PM »

Make it as easy to buy as it is to pirate.


 I run into this problem in stores, online, and on the phone. Over and over, it never ceases to amaze me just how difficult some businesses make it for you to pay them your money.

I was always taught by my business mentors that the stupidest thing you can possibly do when a customer has made up their mind - and is handing you their credit card  - would be to introduce anything into the equation that hinders the sales process.

Why do so many businesses not realize that? If you're buying something why do you have to:

  • Register and open an 'account' before you can use an online shopping cart.
  • Put up with one or more "upsell" attempts
  • Be forced to subscribe to a mailing list in order to register a product to protect your warranty
  • Provide personal information not needed to process a transaction
  • Get last minute "bad surprises" (ex: ridiculously high shipping & handling fees, etc.) when you're finalizing your transaction
  • Use PayPal - even when you don't want to
  • Find out they don't take _______ (fill in the blank)
  • Discover they only ship to the USA and its territories
  • Discover they don't ship to the USA and its territories
  • Have the shopping cart crash or refuse to finalize the purchase
  • Learn they're never open evenings or on weekends
  • Discover (the hard way) that there are no provisions for communicating by human voice for service issues or pre-sales questions

Drives me nuts when companies behave like this. There's enough quality competition out there. Why does any business in it's right mind do anything to give a potential customer an excuse to walk...

Oh.

Guess I just answered my own question didn't I? :-[

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Found Deals and Discounts / Re: DrawPlusX5 50% on BDJ
« Last post by 40hz on March 08, 2012, 01:52 PM »
I use photoshop for the whiteboard stuff that is in the videos, but I often find it too complex and the complexity screws me up sometimes, which means retakes.

Yay! I'm glad I'm not the only person here who thinks Photoshop is much too complex for 50% of what it gets used for. ;D
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Found Deals and Discounts / Re: DrawPlusX5 50% on BDJ
« Last post by 40hz on March 08, 2012, 01:50 PM »
Any ideas on why this is happening? I've heard this is a quality product and don't want to be paranoid about it, just never had it happen before.  Anything else that could cause this?

Not seeing what went on, I can only make a guess. It might have possibly installed some missing Windows components it needs, or otherwise updated some Microsoft software, that requires a reboot to become active. Once it's got all its system requirements in place, the rest of the installation can proceed normally. You'll see that sometimes when DLLs need to be updated or .NET components are involved. I don't think it's any cause for alarm although you could email their support desk and ask them directly why it did that.

Luck! :Thmbsup:
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Living Room / Re: For the LULZ or for the FBI? (Get ready to cry...)
« Last post by 40hz on March 08, 2012, 01:02 PM »
I've said it before in other DC threads...unless you're willing to lose your life, or at least go to jail for what you're doing, you can't consider yourself a revolutionary. You're merely playing a game with yourself and other people's lives. And people who merely play high-stakes games with governments have this bad tendency to get other people hurt. Or worse.

I think the acid test to gauge somebody's real commitment to a cause is to see how susceptible they are to playing a logical + non-zero sum strategy in a game of Prisoner's Dilemma.

Looks like the FBI had Hector Xavier Monsegur figured out and called his bluff. He took the above option and turned in his friends. Much like many will do in a similar predicament.

Too bad for his compatriots however. It's all over for them except for their trials and sentencing. (I predict they'll all "cooperate" in the end to reduce their sentences. Further arrests will soon follow as a result.)

Here's a good Zen koan for would-be revolutionaries: What is the sound of one cell door slamming?

If the thought keeps you up at night rather than steeling you for what the the future likely holds in store for you - you're just kidding yourself about really believing in your cause. Because most governments are well-financed, have huge resources of equipment and personnel, have the general support of their people - and all the time in the world to run something to ground.

It's not so much a case of whether you'll get caught as when. So for a revolt to be successful, you need to mobilize as much widespread support as you can prior to the authorities finding and shutting you down.

That's the funny thing about a revolution. It isn't the revolutionaries who bring them off. They can only set the stage and possibly provoke the inciting incident. But unless the people (with a capital P) rise up, it's all to no avail. Because the only successful revolutions are the ones the general population ultimately embraces as their own and actively joins in on.

Better than 90% of all revolutionary actions end up either in a jail cell, on a scaffold, or before the wall.

Make sure it's really worth it to you. And above all, make sure you really believe.

Hector apparently didn't. :huh:

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Woody Leohnard has posted an extremely negative take on Windows 8 on Windows Secrets. It's a lot more insightful than most of his stuff.

Ok...back on topic (thx xtabber!)


It is an interesting take although I think he misses some of what Microsoft is up to with Windows 8.

It's not so much they seem to be ignoring us "grizzled" old veterans as they are planning an end run around us.

The big pitch is going to be to the home consumer - with an implied threat they'll be appraised about how easy it is to bring their home/consumer "experience" (i.e. their Win 8 loaded USB key) into the workplace with very little their employer can do to prevent it. Unless, of course, their bosses want to invest in some rather expensive management software Microsoft will also be happy to sell them.

Microsoft has apparently given up on "push" to move Windows 8 and Metro since there is no compelling business justification for going over to it. So what they've instead opted to do is create "pull" by selling it to consumers and then suggesting they demand their employers (plus any businesses they deal with) embrace the same. Vox populi, Vox Dei? That's a very dangerous strategy to play. But right now, Microsoft thinks they can do it. (Why they suddenly seem to feel they're as fanatically loved as Apple is by its customers is anybody's guess. But somebody must be telling them they are. Either that, or they recently scored an epic supply of some absolute killer weed off the streets around Redmond WA.)

I personally think they're nuts. And if it doesn't go over - or seriously renewed interest in Linux starts happening in the corporate world - I expect to see Microsoft move on FOSS and start filing lawsuits as fast as the necessary paperwork can be run off a laser printer. Because you just know they already put it together back when it was still dicey whether or not Windows 7 was going to fly. So all they'd need to do now is review and supplement what's in there, run one last spellcheck, and change the dates.

 :-\
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And fret saw?

Hmm...Maybe not. Check this and this out. I'm going to try it this weekend on a CBG project I've got half completed.

Oops meant band saw!

-Carol Haynes (March 08, 2012, 09:48 AM)

Warning!

OT. Feel free to ignore.
For my first forays I went to the local home improvement center and just selected several feet of the straightest dimensioned maple (1/2 x 2) I could find for the necks, and some nice clear poplar (1/4 x 2) for the fretboards. The tension on CBGs is significantly lower then on a standard guitar so you don't necessarily need a truss rod - although they can't hurt. Many accomplished builders either skip truss rods entirely or route and glue a stiffener bar (metal or carbon) in place instead. John accomplishes the same thing by laminating his necks, a technique that's also becoming popular.

FWIW A few hand tools (awl, steel ruler, knife, finetooth backsaw, hand drill, sand paper, wood rasp, screwdriver - cheap soldering iron for the electronics) were all I used to build my first few. I didn't have much spare cash at the time to go out and order "real luthier tools" from a supplier. This was just stuff I already owned. Despite their humble origins (and me not really knowing what I was doing at that point) they all sounded quite good. Even the first one.

Gotta love that! ;D

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So be of good cheer. There is a good life after computers and the internet. No computer. But there are still paper books and home made musical instruments! That's the path I'll be heading down. Maybe even with a little bit of that Miracle Tonic every so often to ease me down the road. :Thmbsup:

Thanks for the videos - they really cheered me up. Now all I need is a fret saw!  :-*
-Carol Haynes (March 08, 2012, 09:13 AM)

Warning:
OT Reply! Feel free to ignore.
Glad they did. John is an amazing guy. Love his attitude. When someone asked where he obtained some of his more unusual materials he said: the usual places - every tip I pass when I go out walking.

And fret saw?

Hmm...Maybe not. Check this and this out. I'm going to try it this weekend on a CBG project I've got half completed.

Also check out Uncle Bob's site when you get a chance. He's used 100lb. mono-filament fishing line for frets with good results. Works well and I think it looks rather sexy. Plus, doing the continuous wrap he does is considerably easier that the traditional individual fret tie you'd use for viols, gambas, and other Renaissance era instruments. Details are on this page.

Check it out:

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 :Thmbsup:

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Found Deals and Discounts / Re: DrawPlusX5 50% on BDJ
« Last post by 40hz on March 08, 2012, 08:59 AM »
Thx for the heads up. Had my eye on it for a while now. Ordering. :Thmbsup:
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Think I'll start learning to play the piano or take up painting water colours. The net and all these electronic gizmos can go to the recycling when the time comes.

Note: I'll risk going briefly off (or maybe more broadly on) topic a moment here. Those who object can start their own thread. This one's mine, so I can do anything I want. So there! :P

OT reply. Feel free to ignore.
@nudone - Suggestion: Cigar box guitar!

Lookee here. And here.

One of your fellow countrymen (Chickenbone John) is one of the better known player/builders:



And on a less serious (and more inebriated) note, hear what he has to say about his Chickenbone John Miracle Tonic Remedy. (Trust him - he's a Doctor!)



So be of good cheer. There is a good life after computers and the internet. No computer. But there are still paper books and home made musical instruments! That's the path I'll be heading down. Maybe even with a little bit of that Miracle Tonic every so often to ease me down the road.  :Thmbsup:

Note: interestingly enough, doing that would bring my own life back into a circle, leaving me about where I was when I was attending college. Not a bad deal really. That was probably the only time in my life where I can say I was truly happy...
:)


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Yikes - and I thought I was cynical ...
-Carol Haynes (March 08, 2012, 08:01 AM)

I am not a cynic. I merely have the benefit of life experience behind me.

I am a realist.  ;) :Thmbsup:

***

"For me, it is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring."
         —Carl Sagan


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I remember seeing (and commenting on) one program having strong X and Y axis implementation of user-defined categories, which is a nice plus for the program.  **** Anyone remember or know which program has this ?  ****  The reason this is helpful is that often your major categories, such as finances, web, spirit, software, etc could be the Y axis distinction, while the specific topics could be X axis,   Within the specific topics, then, the Explorer tree would only get moderately cluttered.  The whole purpose here is to keep a bit of top-down thinking so that the Explorer tree does not have to be frequently opened and closed and navigated to find the present topic.
-Steven Avery (March 08, 2012, 07:03 AM)

Allowing for tabbed folders within the category tree?

Oooo...

Somebody please remember who is doing that?

I want it.



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