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Living Room / Re: What's your favorite LOL joke?
« Last post by Stoic Joker on November 03, 2009, 05:48 AM »
TO:  Ex Floridians, present Floridians, future Floridans or those who know a Floridian

We're about to enter the peak of the hurricane season. Any day now, you're going to turn on the TV and see a weather person pointing to some radar blob out in the Gulf of Mexico and making two basic meteorological points:

(1) There is no need to panic.
(2) We could all be killed.

Yes, hurricane season is an exciting time to be in Florida. If you're new to the area, you're probably wondering what you need to do to prepare for the possibility that we'll get hit by "the big one.''

Based on our experiences, we recommend that you follow this simple three-step hurricane preparedness plan:

STEP 1. Buy enough food and bottled water to last your family for at least three days.

STEP 2. Put these supplies into your car.

STEP 3. Drive to Nebraska and remain there until Thanksgiving.

Unfortunately, statistics show that most people will not follow this sensible plan. Most people will foolishly stay here in Florida.

We'll start with one of the most important hurricane preparedness items:

HOMEOWNERS' INSURANCE: If you own a home, you must have hurricane insurance.

Fortunately, this insurance is cheap and easy to get, as long as your home meets two basic requirements:

(1) It is reasonably well-built, and
(2) It is located in Nebraska.

Unfortunately, if your home is located in Florida, or any other area that might actually be hit by a hurricane, most insurance companies would prefer not to sell you hurricane insurance, because then they might be required to pay YOU money, and that is certainly not why they got into the insurance business in the first place.

So you'll have to scrounge around for an insurance company, which will charge you an annual premium roughly equal to the replacement value of your house. At any moment, this company can drop you like used dental floss.


Since Hurricane Andrew, I have had an estimated 27 different home-insurance companies. This week, I'm covered by the Bob and Big Stan Insurance Company, under a policy which states that, in addition to my premium, Bob and Big Stan are entitled, on demand, to my kidneys.

SHUTTERS: Your house should have hurricane shutters on all the windows, all the doors, and -- if it's a major hurricane -- all the toilets.  There are several types of shutters, with advantages and disadvantages:

Plywood shutters: The advantage is that, because you make them yourself, they're cheap. The disadvantage is that, because you make them yourself, they will fall off.

Sheet-metal shutters: The advantage is that these work well, once you get them all up. The disadvantage is that once you get them all up, your hands will be useless bleeding stumps, and it will be December.

Roll-down shutters: The advantages are that they're very easy to use, and will definitely protect your house. The disadvantage is that you will have to sell your house to pay for them.

"Hurricane-proof'' windows: These are the newest wrinkle in hurricane protection: They look like ordinary windows, but they can withstand hurricane winds! You can be sure of this, because the salesman says so.
He lives in Nebraska.

"Hurricane Proofing Your Property: As the hurricane approaches, check your yard for movable objects like barbecue grills, planters, patio furniture, visiting relatives, etc.; you should, as a precaution, throw
these items into your swimming pool (if you don't have a swimming pool, you should have one built immediately). Otherwise, the hurricane winds will turn these objects into deadly missiles.

EVACUATION ROUTE: If you live in a low-lying area, you should have an evacuation route planned out. (To determine whether you live in a low-lying area, look at your driver's license; if it says "Florida" you live in a low-lying area.) The purpose of having an evacuation route is to avoid being trapped in your home when a major storm hits. Instead, you will be trapped in a gigantic traffic jam several miles from your home, along with two hundred thousand other evacuees. So, as a bonus, you will not be lonely.

HURRICANE SUPPLIES: If you don't evacuate, you will need a mess of supplies. Do not buy them now! Florida tradition requires that you wait until the last possible minute, then go to the supermarket and get into vicious fights with strangers over who gets the last can of SPAM.

In addition to food and water, you will need the following supplies:

23 flashlights. At least $167 worth of batteries that turn out, when the power goes out, to be the wrong size for the flashlights.

Bleach. (No, I don't know what the bleach is for. NOBODY knows what The bleach is for. But it's traditional, so GET some!)

A 55-gallon drum of underarm deodorant.

A big knife that you can strap to your leg. (This will be useless in a hurricane, but it looks cool.)

A large quantity of raw chicken, to placate the alligators. (Ask anybody who went through Andrew; after the hurricane, there WILL be irate alligators.)

$35,000 in cash or diamonds so that, after the hurricane passes, you can buy a generator from a man with no discernible teeth.

Of course these are just basic precautions. As the hurricane draws near, it is vitally important that you keep abreast of the situation by turning on your television and watching TV reporters in rain slickers
stand right next to the ocean and tell you over and over how vitally important it is for everybody to stay away from the ocean.

Good luck and remember: it's great living in paradise! Those of you who aren't here yet you should come. Really!
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Living Room / Re: What's your favorite LOL joke?
« Last post by Stoic Joker on November 03, 2009, 05:47 AM »
Medical Mishaps, Entries found on patient's records
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1. Patient has chest pain if she lies on her left side for over a year.

2. On the 2nd day the knee was better and on the 3rd day it disappeared completely.

3. She has had no rigors or shaking chills, but her husband states she was very hot in bed last night.

4. The patient has been depressed ever since she began seeing me in 1993.

5. The patient is tearful and crying constantly. She also appears to be depressed.

6. Discharge status: Alive but without permission.

7. Healthy appearing decrepit 69 year-old male, mentally alert but forgetful.

8. The patient refused an autopsy.

9. The patient has no past history of suicides.

10. Patient has left his white blood cells at another hospital.

11. Patient's past medical history has been remarkably insignificant with only a 40 pound weight gain in the past three days.

12. Patient had waffles for breakfast and anorexia for lunch.

13. Between you and me, we ought to be able to get this lady pregnant.

14. Since she can't get pregnant with her husband, I thought you might like to work her up.

15. She is numb from her toes down.

16. While in the ER, she was examined, X-rated and sent home.

17. The skin was moist and dry.

18. Occasional, constant, infrequent headaches.

19. Patient was alert and unresponsive.

20. Rectal exam revealed a normal size thyroid.

21. She stated that she had been constipated for most of her life, until she got a divorce.

22. I saw your patient today, who is still under our car for physical therapy.

23. Both breasts are equal and reactive to light and accommodation.

24. Exam of genitalia reveals that he is circus sized.

25. The lab test indicated abnormal lover function.

26. The patient was to have a bowel resection. However, he took a job as a stockbroker instead.

27. Skin: somewhat pale but present.

28. The pelvic examination will be done later on the floor.

29. Patient was seen in consultation by Dr. Blank, who felt we should sit on the abdomen and I agree.

30. Large brown stool ambulating in the hall.

31. Patient has two teenage children, but no other abnormalities
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Living Room / Re: What's your favorite LOL joke?
« Last post by Stoic Joker on November 03, 2009, 05:45 AM »
Murphy's Laws of Combat
>
> * If the enemy is in range, so are you
> * Don't look conspicuous; it draws fire
> * There is always a way, that way is always mined
> * Try to look unimportant; they might be low on ammo
> * Teamwork is essential; it gives them someone else to shoot at
> * If orders can be misunderstood they will be
> * The tank is a monument to the inaccuracy of indirect fire
> * Never reinforce failure; failure reinforces itself
> * Odd objects attract fire. You are odd
> * Your mortar barrage will put exactly one round on the intended target.
> That round will be a dud
> * Mine fields are not neutral
> * The weight of your equipment is proportional to the cube of the time you
> have been carrying it
> * The enemy diversion you have been ignoring will be the main attack
> * If your attack is going well, it's an ambush
> * When you have secured an area, don't forget to tell the enemy
> * Never forget that your weapon is made by the lowest bidder
> * Never stand when you can sit
> * Never sit when you can lie down
> * A grenade with a 7 second fuse will always burn in 4 seconds
> * The enemy never watches until you make a mistake
> * Whenever you have plenty of ammo, you never miss
> * The more a weapon costs, the further you will have to send it to be
> repaired
> * Interchangeable parts are not
> * The item you need is always in short supply
> * The complexity of a weapon is inversely proportional to the IQ of it's
> operator
> * If it's stupid but it works, it isn't stupid
> * No combat ready group ever passes inspection
> * No inspection ready group ever survives combat
> * All battles are fought at the junction of two or more maps
> * Things that must be together to work can never be shipped together
> * If you need an officer in a hurry take a nap
> * Radar tends to fail at night and in bad weather, and especially during
> both
> * Tracers work both ways
> * The effective killing radius is greater than the average soldier can
> throw it
> * Military intelligence is a contradiction of terms
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Living Room / Re: What's your favorite LOL joke?
« Last post by Stoic Joker on November 03, 2009, 05:43 AM »
Some are better then others, but this is some of the stuff I saved from Emails etc.



No wonder teachers go "crazy" with children
>
> TEACHER: Why are you late?
> WEBSTER: Because of the sign.
> TEACHER: What sign?
> WEBSTER: The one that says, "School Ahead, Go Slow."
>
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>
>
> TEACHER: Cindy, why are you doing your maths sums on the floor?
> CINDY: You told me to do it without using tables!
>
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>
>
> TEACHER: John, how do you spell "crocodile"?
> JOHN: "K-R-O-K-O-D-A-I-L"
> TEACHER: No, that's wrong
> JOHN: Maybe it's wrong, but you ask me how I spell it!
>
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>
>
> TEACHER: What is the chemical formula for water?
> SARAH: "HIJKLMNO"!!
> TEACHER: What are you talking about?
> SARAH: Yesterday you said it's H to O!
>
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>
>
> TEACHER: George, go to the map and find North America.
> GEORGE: Here it is!
> TEACHER: Correct. Now, class, who discovered America?
> CLASS: George!
>
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>
>
> TEACHER: Willy, name one important thing we have today that we didn't
> have
> ten years ago.
> WILLY: Me!
>
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>
>
> TEACHER: Tommy, why do you always get so dirty?
> TOMMY: Well, I'm a lot closer to the ground than you are.
>
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>
>
> SILVIA: Dad, can you write in the dark?
> FATHER: I think so. What do you want me to write?
> SYLVIA: Your name on this report card.
>
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>
>
> TEACHER: How can you prevent diseases caused by biting insects?
> JOSE: Don't bite any.
>
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>
>
> TEACHER: Ellen, give me a sentence starting with "I".
> ELLEN: I is...
> TEACHER: No, Ellen. Always say, "I am."
> ELLEN: All right... "I am the ninth letter of the alphabet."
>
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>
>
> Teacher: "George Washington not only chopped down his father's Cherry
tree, but also admitted doing it. Now do you know why his father didn't
punish him?"
> Johnny : "Because George still had the axe in his hand."
>
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>
>
> Son : Daddy, have you ever been to Egypt?
> Father : No. Why do you ask that?
> Son : Well, where did you get THIS mummy then?
>
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>
>
> Teacher : What a pair of strange socks you are wearing, one is green
and
one is blue with red spots!
> Kirk : Yes it's really strange. I've got another pair of the same at
home.
>
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>
>
> At a church school gathering, one little old lady approached a cute
5-year-old girl and asked her where she got her good looks. "I musta
got 'em
from my Daddy," said the little girl, "'cause Mommy's still got hers."
>
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>
> Teacher: Desmond, your composition on "My Dog" is exactly the same as
your
brother's. Did u copy his?
> Desmond: No, teacher, it's the same dog!
>
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>
>
> Teacher: What do you call a person who keeps on talking when people
are no
longer interested?
> Pupil : A teacher.
>
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>
>
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General Software Discussion / Re: Surprised by Win7
« Last post by Stoic Joker on November 02, 2009, 04:44 PM »
I remember in the past having setups where one Windows could not see the other and juggling partition settings on boot. It turned into a real nightmare esp. if you try to install some software on a non system partition that can run on both OS, such as Visual Studio.
Granted I did the same thing (and got the same result), but Microsoft did warn against that type of setup in a KB article written back in the Win2k days.
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Living Room / Re: Best Free and Pay FTP Client
« Last post by Stoic Joker on November 02, 2009, 04:29 PM »
Stagnant or not, I still like LeapFTP; I'm still using it today on Win7 x64 and it does just fine as always. Simple, clean, straight forward interface that just plain works.

I have had occasion to (need) use FlashFXP also, but as a rule I stick with Leap.
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So does this have to be a completely new program, or can it be an updated version of an existing program?
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Finished Programs / Re: Group files from within folders
« Last post by Stoic Joker on October 30, 2009, 07:07 AM »
D*mn that assignment that involved Winsock, it threw me right off track.
*thinks (for 100th time) I WILL master it. It won't beat me*

I'm with you, I've still got a flat spot on my forehead from hitting that 'wall'...
While I'm no expert, I have spent an insane amount of time playing with WinSock code...perhaps I could help.

Also if it's not to late, I'd like to vote for FolderGroupie as a name. It's both descriptive if the programs intent and catchy. Another possible variation would be Folder(re)Groupie.
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fSekrit / Re: Beta: fSekrit 1.40 needs some abuse!
« Last post by Stoic Joker on October 29, 2009, 07:42 PM »
If you still have the T-Clock source I sent you a while back its got a font selection dialog that works on all the above (might save you some time).
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fSekrit / Re: Beta: fSekrit 1.40 needs some abuse!
« Last post by Stoic Joker on October 29, 2009, 07:33 PM »
Guess I'll have to test the font picker a bit more, it's pretty simple code so wouldn't have expected it to go wrong - I'll test on XP and Vista tomorrow.
I don't have access to a Vista machine at the moment, but I can confirm the no fonts error in XP x86 (VPC). However running on my main Win7 pro x64 machine it loads the fonts just fine (come to think of it...isn't that what you're running also?).

Update - Server 2008 is close enough to Vista (i think) and it gives the no fonts error also.
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Developer's Corner / Re: What's your Programming Language?
« Last post by Stoic Joker on October 26, 2009, 06:37 PM »
I'm not so sure that SQL is a programming language, it's a Structured Query Language.

...However I do spend a lot of time working with it & C++ (My two favorite languages). I also work in PHP, ASP, Java, and some VB Scripting (which is partially redundant for ASP).

I'd have to say that Java definately causes the most (Um...) unbridled bouts of swearing.
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Living Room / Re: What's required for Aero in Win7?
« Last post by Stoic Joker on October 26, 2009, 12:07 PM »
Can u believe - Upgrade Advisor says my Microsoft Life Cam not compatible with W7?
Sure, it did it to me too. But the updated lifecam software showed up automagically around the end of the upgrade install.
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Living Room / Re: You have a computer backup plan.. but does it work?
« Last post by Stoic Joker on October 23, 2009, 05:45 AM »
Let me add another more subtle tip, do not shoot yourself in the face by doing very frequent backups that always erase your last backup.

You might *think* you are doing a good thing by making very frequent backups, but if you are always overwriting your previous backup with the new one, what you are really doing is asking for trouble.
This has got to be the single most critical point (that people keep missing...) mentioned so far. I've seen that plan go sideways more than once.
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General Software Discussion / Re: Windows vs. Mac: I'm starting to change.
« Last post by Stoic Joker on October 22, 2009, 06:01 AM »
Apple is "High-End" ... In the same context as Paris Hilton, they're both flashy, obnoxious, & transparent.
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*Shrug* If you got an image ... you got an image. If a drive is still spinning and isn't making any "grinding noises" ... I usually start with the HDD manufacturer's diagnostic software, let it have the first crack at repairing. Then I can usually strip the attributes and copy files off of it.

attrib -h -s -r *.* /S /D

Also Temporary Internet Files tend to make file copy (much) harder then it needs to be.
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Just a couple things that occurred to me while reading this.

If the drive really is that damaged, the recovery window is rather small & experimentation can be fatal.

Given what you've tried so far, if it ain't completely dead by now...it probably wasn't that bad to start with.

So... Is there a specific reason you didn't just run CheckDisk on it? That would leave you with all copyable files (albeit perhaps less than you started with).

Granted it's not free, but I've had excellent results with RunTime Software's GetDataBack on both NTFS & Fat32 drives.
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General Software Discussion / Re: Who should judge Win7's success?
« Last post by Stoic Joker on October 18, 2009, 05:43 PM »
I would rather say, the "new way of doing things" does not fit anyone's actual work habits, eh?

Maybe it is me who is in the minority, but I have fully embraced the new taskbar and start menu in Windows 7. I love the way they work. My taskbar is uncluttered, my start menu works how I want it to....life is good in my corner of the computing universe.
Mine too, I'm lovin' the new Win7 UI
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General Software Discussion / Re: Windows Security Essentials
« Last post by Stoic Joker on October 17, 2009, 02:39 PM »
I'm wondering why if MSE is checking the server for "the most recent virus definitions...rather than relying on the last batch of definitions downloaded" why it doesn't just download the most recent virus definitions, do the analysis locally, and be done with it.
I'm guessing it's a tip of the iceburg Cloud Computing thing. ...Which is not IMO a good sign.

On the Firewall thing I've yet to see an SPI implementation in a residential class device that wasn't more trouble than it was worth (performance under load = dropped connections). Sure on the SMB and up comercial side there are some nice devices...but you'll be looking at $500+ on sale of you're lucky which is a bit steep for most folks.
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General Software Discussion / Re: Who should judge Win7's success?
« Last post by Stoic Joker on October 17, 2009, 07:39 AM »
I always heard that "unused ram is wasted ram", don't you agree?
Anything to a point (i.e. 4GB of RAM on an x86 machine would be 750MB of wasted RAM), but better to under use it that over use it. Too many XP machines with 256MB RAM (which was 4x the install min...) ended up gnawing a hole in the HDD where the PageFile isn't any more because of scuttling the HDD due to insufficient RAM.



Ya know the "Classic" start menu really only had about a five year run 95-2k ... The Start Panel introduced (to the public e.g. the rest of us had it earlier...) in 2001 when XP was RTM is looking at about a 10 year run at this point. So... Why is it still being treated as some new evil thing?!?
This is the first time that "the public" is forced to use it...
...And with a 10 year warning it's about damn time it went the way of 16bit software. Frankly I'm tired of having to fight my way around the missing UI improvements when I get stuck working on the machine of some spastic user that thinks that life is simpler if you have less (or compare-ably no) options.

Now, true, 10 years ago I wasn't tickled to death with the at-the-time new-fangled contraption. But, as an IT professional I was obligated to take the time to learn how the then new OS worked...UI improvements and all. It ended up taking less that a week for me to realize just how incredibly handy (and superior) the Start Panel was.


Do you really trust Microsoft's studies? Of course they will never result in "this sucks".
Sure they will, they just won't blame it on somebody else on TV like Apple does.
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General Software Discussion / Re: Who should judge Win7's success?
« Last post by Stoic Joker on October 16, 2009, 11:54 PM »
No more actual "task" bar, no more classic start menu; two big disadvantages for me. Of course, computer newbies (starting with Vista or sth) won't have these problems.
Ya know the "Classic" start menu really only had about a five year run 95-2k ... The Start Panel introduced (to the public e.g. the rest of us had it earlier...) in 2001 when XP was RTM is looking at about a 10 year run at this point. So... Why is it still being treated as some new evil thing?!?
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General Software Discussion / Re: Windows Security Essentials
« Last post by Stoic Joker on October 16, 2009, 05:16 PM »
Out of curiosity, was he running with Administrative rights when this happened?

Here's that information I promised to get you, Joker. He was running as as a user in the administrator group. The OS was Win7 and it was running at the stock UAC level (which I have since told him he needed to bump all the way up which he did) and the browser he used was Firefox v3.5.3 with no extensions.
I just had a funny feeling that was going to be the case (which proves f0dder's UAC recommendations again). I truly believe that the permissions reduction strategy is the only really effective defense. HIPS/Heuristics can do their part, but even they miss, FP, or just annoy you into screwing up. If a user is logged into a machine, with an account that has permission to break said machine, then the whole thing really just turns into a contest to see who blinks first. *Shrug* ...The question becomes how much of the systems resources are you willing to sacrifice on something that is only 98% effective.

Every single Anti-EvilWare solution on the market today is at best (just like birth control) only 98% effective. Why? (lawyers, true) Because (sh)IT happens...and there just isn't (cycle) time to check for every little thing right down to the very last detail so everybody just picks their best rendition of hitting the high-spots and calls it good.

A bit nihilistic of me perhaps true, but I don't care. I'm not about to pay (Peter) massive amounts of my systems resources to pay (Paul) for my right to do something stupid (Hay we all have off days...). So far MSE has managed to remain light enough to not annoy me resource usage wise (which is difficult I'll admit), so I'm letting it run to see what it does. I also have UAC enabled.

...No real specific point here, I'm just kinda sharing/thinking out loud... :)

Interesting side note on security trends, apparently there has been enough losses on the (high-end) border router defenses front that they are coming up/out with some entirely new "border-less" network paradigm. ...Cripes, that should be a hoot...
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General Software Discussion / Re: Windows Security Essentials
« Last post by Stoic Joker on October 16, 2009, 05:47 AM »

Submitted Files
 =============================================
 update.exe [Not Malware]

update.exe doesn't tell anybody anything, what is its size, origin, & current location? There are several places one can get a file called update.exe QuickTime has one, (some of) HP's drivers have one; they're almost always persistent ... But that doesn't make them malicious.
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General Software Discussion / Re: Who should judge Win7's success?
« Last post by Stoic Joker on October 15, 2009, 04:53 PM »
I've also never been an appreciator of flash and glitz, shiny, pretty UIs for the sake of just shiny and pretty (a shiny, pretty UI that improves *functionality* on the other hand is wonderful)
I usually sum this up with the 3Fs rule - Form Follows Function. It's one of my favorites.
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General Software Discussion / Re: 10/GUI
« Last post by Stoic Joker on October 15, 2009, 06:05 AM »
Just wanted to interject that I find it interesting that nobody has brought up Microsoft's Surface Computing Interface (which does replace both mouse & keyboard) in this discussion.
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I'm going with the people are fickle and lazy explanation. Basically if the new engine doesn't either dazzle with better results, or at least get close enough to not annoy ... folks just tend to go back to (their old habits) what they know.

Maybe it's just me, I'd like to step off on Google but It's too much effort to remember to use Bing when I have a custom search alias for Google. I just put g search term in the address bar hit enter and there it is. I've been doing that for years ... and am too lazy to change.
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