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N.A.N.Y. 2009 / Re: NANY 2009 Release: Trout
« Last post by skwire on February 17, 2009, 09:17 AM »Please update to build 122. Apologies.
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Could you add to the right-click menu a new item "Open Music Folder" to open the current selected tracks folder?Absolutely. I plan to go one better and provide an option for a custom file manager string for those that don't use Explorer (like me).-apfel (February 13, 2009, 04:41 PM)
Skwire: just a small suggestion, please make Trout update-able via DCUpdater.. i normally download the portable zip version and extract over the existing folder and it'd be nice to have it automated.I hope to add this soon. It will be optional, however. As in, you will need to copy the dcupdater into your Trout folder yourself. Would that be okay?-lanux128 (February 09, 2009, 07:10 PM)
What's wrong with the tray icon? Looks ok to me:Very cool. In the VM I test 9x on, it always shows the standard AHK green "H" icon. Maybe it's an ME thing? Drugwash, what does your Win98 tray show for Trout?-app103 (February 11, 2009, 09:40 PM)
I see "Clear Playlist" is hotkeyableSure, easily doable. It'll be in the next build. Thanks.
If you could possibly make "Add Folder" hotkeyable as well that would cover my current needs (if not-tomos (February 09, 2009, 03:35 PM)
What happens if I select multiple tracks and click on edit tags->change/add date->save tag?There is no multiple track editing in Trout; only the focused track gets edited. The focused track is the one with the dotted rectangle around it. You can have multiple "selected" tracks but only one row is ever the "focused" row. Does that clear it up?
Will be the taracks overwritten with the same tag values for artist/album/date or only the changed date value?-apfel (February 09, 2009, 09:40 AM)
I think you can remove that part about 9x not being supported, now.Well, there's still some quirks that I see in a VM that I can't seem to iron out. Specifically, the tray icon.-app103 (February 06, 2009, 08:26 PM)
you forgot to update the about menu to the latest version it shows vers.90 not 91Doh, that's me screwing up the changelog and post. The about box version/build text is actually generated from reading the trout.exe, so, it's the correct one.-nogojoe (February 06, 2009, 09:42 PM)
v1.0.2 build 91You, kind - me, happy.
+ Added code to support Win9x/ME systems.-skwire (February 06, 2009, 03:14 PM)ありがとうございます！
-Drugwash (February 07, 2009, 03:49 AM)
Is it Control key + mouse scroll ?[/s]
sorry,
reading too quickly - it's the arrow keys and it works !!-tomos (February 07, 2009, 04:06 AM)
I was trying to avoid having to build my own player from scratch - what a waste of time reinventing the wheel! - and also to give people like me - Win9x users - a chance to benefit from your hard work. But I'm afraid that's impossible, from what you said. Too bad.-Drugwash (February 05, 2009, 07:32 AM)
I only registered here because of this player. As a couple other users around, I'm using Win9x too - Win98SE, to be more precise. As such, I'd appreciate if you would allow me/us to help in fixing the few (minor, I'd say) issues that we found in testing this script.I honestly appreciate the interest and desire to see Trout work properly under Win9x/ME. That being said, I do not have the time, desire, or setup (only a VM) to test under Windows 98. I'm also not a fan of making code changes (in hopes that it works under another OS) that I cannot test myself.-Drugwash (February 04, 2009, 08:58 PM)
Basically what needs attention are:Trout's tag reading handles all strings in unicode so installing the Microsoft Layer for Unicode in your system may get them to display properly.
- missing tags-Drugwash (February 04, 2009, 08:58 PM)
- seek and volume progressbars not functional (sliders might've been better for 9x)This is most definitely an AHK/Win9x limitation in the current code. I can, possibly, try to find a way around this.-Drugwash (February 04, 2009, 08:58 PM)
- currently playing icon appears to be 32bit, thus displaying a black background in 9xYou can modify the resources.dll yourself with ResHacker.-Drugwash (February 04, 2009, 08:58 PM)
Other issues I noticed would be:Hmmm...the options panel is only 440 pixels high.
- Options panel out of screen at the bottom (on 1024x768 resolution)-Drugwash (February 04, 2009, 08:58 PM)
- lack of drag'n'drop sorting in playlist (major issue for me personally)Drag'n'drop sorting will be a long time coming (if ever).-Drugwash (February 04, 2009, 08:58 PM)
It would be interesting to try and make the list view RichEdit-aware; since I've tested and cRichEdit can display Unicode characters correctly on my system and you already manipulate strings in Unicode mode, maybe we could get it to display the Unicode ID3 tags properly in 9x.A standard listview, such that AHK has (SysListView32), doesn't have any sort of RichEdit capabilities. I'm not much interested in retro-fitting a third-party control into Trout since one of my design goals/challenges was to keep Trout as natively AHK as possible in an attempt to show just how much can be accomplished with the language.-Drugwash (February 04, 2009, 08:58 PM)
Oh and here's Trout Player on my 98SE system:Whoa...that is BRIGHT.-Drugwash (February 04, 2009, 08:58 PM)
that sound's good, as I say - if possible - you're the boss here so it's your call !!Let's assume we go with this method. How would you like it synced? Here are two possible methods:-tomos (January 30, 2009, 07:27 PM)
Hmm, I love the idea of having an ahk tool to play music.Honestly, I have no idea why it won't appear. I'm confused, though. From your previous problem report link, it seems that you found the problem app (TrayIt)?
However, I cannot get it to work. It just doesn't show up... I reported my problem here. Of course this is my computer only. I'm just posting here in case anyone (skwire?) knows what all the programs that don't pop up have in common. I use other ahk tools and they do pop up fine.-urlwolf (January 30, 2009, 10:28 AM)
hmmYes, it is, mainly because Trout doesn't really work on a directory level; it cares about full paths. However, I could envision an option where you could add a folder or folders that Trout would know to sync the list from. Does that make sense?
I hadnt thought this "refresh" thing through at all
I had been thinking to reload the current folder (and subfolders, yes) but it sounds a lot more complex than I had thought ...-tomos (January 30, 2009, 07:20 AM)
Maybe this would be easy possible if the playlist was directory based, like in Apollo. Another player which uses a directory based playlist is QuickPlayer,From what I can tell, you're the author of QuickPlayer, eh?-Controller (January 30, 2009, 12:19 AM)
d) process all affected songs, remove missing songs only, and add those not yet present in the playlist to the end of the playlist. That way all still existing files stay in position (and no synchronizing of tags is needed, you just would have to scan tags for the new entries)This is the closest to the method I had in mind.-Controller (January 30, 2009, 12:19 AM)
If you implent, don't forget to add detection of removable devices and add a menu to easliy 'sync' those too.Most likely will not happen since I think we're starting to get a bit out of scope for Trout.-Controller (January 30, 2009, 12:19 AM)
yes,I thought that might be the case. I'm trying to wrap my head around how to implement such a function, though. I mean...you can have files from multiple folders in the list so how would I know which folder you want to rescan? All of them? Just the selected row's folder? Is there another player out there that does this in the manner that you like? I know the latest foobar will automatically watch folders you specify and add/synch the files to its database. However, it doesn't automatically add them to the playlist.
I meant an option to rescan/refresh the folder, thanks-tomos (January 29, 2009, 03:57 AM)
is it possible that if i exit Trout while playing mp3, the next time i start Trout it would continue from that mp3? very handy when listening to audio book.. btw Skwire, fantastic job!Thanks for the kind compliment. Your feature request has actually been sitting on the ToDo for a while now. It'll be in the next build. =]-lanux128 (January 29, 2009, 04:18 AM)
Skwire, I missed the last few updates - only got to check this stuff out todayHmmmm...I think I may have misunderstood your initial request. I added an option to re-scan tags (thinking that was what you wanted). I'm guessing now that you want an option where you can set a folder or folders to re-scan for new files, right?
1) I tried F5 - no refresh happens (not an option in menu either?)-tomos (January 28, 2009, 01:32 PM)
4) that it would remember position of columns on restartThis is on the ToDo...however, in AHK, it's quite a bit harder than it seems.-tomos (January 28, 2009, 01:32 PM)
5) another programme I use does a lovely "sideways" (over & back) scroll if I press Control key and scroll mouse wheel - do you think would that be possible here too ?Neat idea. I'll see if I can figure out a way to add this. Thanks.-tomos (January 28, 2009, 01:32 PM)
