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For mouser:

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;D
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Living Room / Re: Olympic coverage this year SUCKS!
« Last post by Renegade on August 11, 2012, 02:23 PM »
I'm starting to sound like Renegade......

That could be a good thing~! :P
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Living Room / Re: Mass of volcanic rocks found floating off New Zealand
« Last post by Renegade on August 11, 2012, 02:21 PM »
But it's interesting that they'd find a mass of it floating free. It's usually only found in areas with current or past geologic activity. And those lumps have rounded edges, they may have been in the water a long time.

Ph'ngluii mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn.

R'yleh is rising! The stars again are right! The Old Ones have returned! Hail Cthulhu!

Yay~! The time is at hand~! ;D

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(see attachment in previous post)
:D

what's your man's name (English comedian I think?)

Fox is good, all right!

I don't know the guy's name. I just saw the pic on FB and laughed, and thought I'd pass it on. :D Maybe someone else knows?
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This is fantastic~! ;D

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:D
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Living Room / Re: Olympic coverage this year SUCKS!
« Last post by Renegade on August 11, 2012, 11:08 AM »
One of their various disguises,  (there are two of these things) .

The single eye represents a camera - or if you were of a conspiracy mindset,  the proliferation of CCTV wielded by a police state.

Just saying ....


I'd put a link in to what they're supposed to be but it's too painful to do from a 2.4" screen.

Holy crap! You weren't kidding!

Screenshot - 2012-08-12 , 2_04_40 AM.png

From: https://mascot-games...orpath=/default.aspx

Redirected there from: https://mascot-games.london2012.com/

Like I said before... "off" in an H. P. Lovecraft sense of the word...

I seriously thought that it was just a joke about the police state and the Olympics...
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Living Room / Re: Staple of people from State and Europe !
« Last post by Renegade on August 11, 2012, 10:53 AM »
I came across a picture that was screaming for a caption...

mmm-bacon.jpg

:P Nom nom nom~!

I so love bacon... I really missed it when I first left Canada. Now, not so much. I just about never eat it, but it's still mighty tasty~! :P ;D
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Living Room / Re: Staple of people from State and Europe !
« Last post by Renegade on August 11, 2012, 09:21 AM »


Your risk of getting sick from raw milk is so infinitesimally small as to be of no significant consequence.
Believe me, if that (getting sick) happened to me, I'd not consider it, "... of no significant consequence."  :P
Nor, I suspect, did the folk to whom it happened.


Then why don't we outlaw any of the other things above that I'd mentioned where the risk of death is orders of magnitude greater?


The state has ZERO business in telling people what they can and cannot eat. None.
I guess this depends a bit on where you live, but around here, the state pays for medical bills. And I don't want to pay the medical bills of the guy who decides to have his every meal at mcdonalds :P (even though I do have to, since there's nothing stopping this particular example)


Good point. I think that I'd go way, way off topic if I said anything about state medical insurance though.


The state has ZERO business in telling people what they can and cannot eat. None.

They don't. They have never told people what they can and can't eat. You are free to buy your own cow and milk it and drink all the raw milk you want. There is no law in any state in the US that would stop you from consuming raw milk from your own cows.


So, just make it impossible for people. That makes sense. Heck, it's not illegal to "smoke" pot, but it's illegal to have it.

And FYI - there are MANY laws that prevent people from owning cows.


However, there are laws in a lot of US states that forbid you from selling that milk to other people without it being pasteurized first, and a federal law that forbids transporting it across state lines unless it is heading to a pasteurization facility.


Every law passed, is a freedom lost.

In this case, it's simply making it impossible for people to drink raw milk. In realityville, we call this "authoritarianism" or "fascism" or something like that.


And all the crap you spouted about how safe raw milk is isn't going to console the parents of the children that became sick after 2 kindergarten classes (about 30 kids) went on a trip to a small old fashioned organic dairy farm in NJ (early 90's) where the kids got to watch the cows being manually milked, and each child was given a small cup of raw milk, fresh from the cow, in violation of state law. The entire group of kids got sick, with many of the kids being hospitalized, and a few deaths. A lot of those kids will suffer life long health problems over a shot glass worth of raw milk. Go tell the parents of the kids that died, just how safe raw milk is and see what they say. See how they feel about the laws in our state that forbid the sale of raw milk.


I'll put this succinctly - the risks from raw milk are so small compared to other normal human activities, that it is simply not worth addressing with tax payer money, and most certainly not something that should be encumbered by (bad) legislation.

Trying to hype up the very small number of cases is just fear-mongering.

You're more likely to die crossing the street.

The whole "think of the children" argument just sets off my BS alert.

There are risks in every activity. Heck, you risk being abducted by aliens while you sleep in your bed. Outlaw beds? ;D Ok, that's a bit silly, but never-the-less, everything incurs a risk. The risk with raw milk is simply incredibly low.

But like I'd pointed out above, the risks from raw milk are simply not comparable as they are orders of magnitude smaller.

Why are governments spending literally countless millions of dollars fighting farmers?

Down the rabbit hole...
Read up on Agenda 21 and ICLEI.


Why not address a real problem?


However, I suppose that I should attempt a solution... For those that are unwilling to accept any risk from any activity, this can be solved by dying. You only get to do it once, so if you get it over and done with, you will have no worries about anything~! Ok... that's idiotic... but it is the only way to avoid all further risk. Well, unless you are worried about what the mortician and undertaker do... I suppose even death has its risks. :D


Pasteurization, discovered by Louis Pasteur in the late 1800s, is the rapid heating and cooling of a product in order to kill bacteria while keeping the nutrients in place. In fact, the vast reductions seen in infant mortality, birth defects and premature death since the 1900s can be directly linked to the widespread use of pasteurization.

State laws allowing for raw milk go back for decades and are mostly antiquated structures of a bygone era. In the states that continue to allow raw milk for human consumption, the incidence of dairy-related foodborne illness is much higher than in states that do not allow raw milk sales. The same is true for countries. France, known for its raw milk products, has three times the amount of dairy foodborne illness as does the United States.

Despite all the potential harm behind raw milk, it still does have its advocates. One of their key arguments is consumer choice. No one disputes the fact in a free society such as ours people should have the independent ability to make choices on what they consume. However, the most common victims of raw milk illnesses are children who do not have a choice on what their parents feed them. Government routinely makes laws to protect the most vulnerable in our society, with a specific focus on kids. We require children to wear bike helmets, prohibit parents from smoking in cars with their children, and new moms cannot take their child home unless they have a car seat. This situation is no different.

http://blog.nj.com/n...ld_not_legalize.html


Think of the children!

Yeah. BS alert going off full blast at this point.

Alcohol is still sold, but it is possible that people could bottle feed their infants Jack Daniels...

That was just so ridiculous. Government protect people? Gee. That's really working out well now, isn't it? :P

http://geke.us/VennDiagrams.html
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Living Room / Re: Olympic coverage this year SUCKS!
« Last post by Renegade on August 11, 2012, 08:12 AM »
(see attachment in previous post)
Maybe I'm a little slow but it just occurred to me that the Olympic mascots chosen kind of epitomise the direction of the UK society.

Is that the mascot? Sorry. I haven't been paying attention to the Olympics (other than for a few silly headlines while reading the news).
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Living Room / Re: Mass of volcanic rocks found floating off New Zealand
« Last post by Renegade on August 11, 2012, 08:10 AM »
That would be a cool site to see -- the ocean covered in rock. :)
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Living Room / Re: Olympic coverage this year SUCKS!
« Last post by Renegade on August 10, 2012, 08:00 AM »
The guardian has found a unique way to get past restrictions on coverage of the Olympics.  A cool way to watch and give no money to the sponsors or the IOC.

Very cute!

But I didn't get the fencing thing... Guess you need to see the actual match to know what it's about.
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I'd never seen this before today:

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It's a beautiful day in the neighbourhood~! ;D
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Interesting... I would like to know HOW those utilities are doing it. Are they using a Windows API? Or have they written their own drivers?
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Living Room / Re: Olympic coverage this year SUCKS!
« Last post by Renegade on August 10, 2012, 06:11 AM »
6 of one. It's still funny~! :D

The article topic was originally from here:

http://www.guardian....nsons-arrest-smiling

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And here:

http://www.thisissur...87-detail/story.html

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It's not just Prison Planet. But the Prison Planet article is certainly much more entertaining~! :D
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Living Room / Re: Staple of people from State and Europe !
« Last post by Renegade on August 10, 2012, 05:57 AM »
In the US, from 1998 through 2009, 1,837 people became sick from drinking raw milk, 195 became sick enough to require hospitalization, and 2 died.


Hehehehe~! We're in for some fun... ;D


1600 reported cases of Salmonella Enteritidis infections were associated with contaminated shell eggs in 136 days or 0.37 years. Compared to 11 years for the milk example above, that extrapolates (linearly) to 47,235. Outlaw eggs now? (Source: http://www.foodsafet...ypes/eggs/index.html)

https://en.wikipedia...ning#United_States_2

Each year in the U.S. 31 major food borne pathogens cause 9.4 million cases of food borne illness, 55,961 hospitalizations, and 2612 deaths.

For 11 years, that's 615,571 hospitalizations and 31,344 deaths. Raw milk then accounts for 0.006% there.

30 deaths from eating cantaloupe in 3 months in 2011 in Colorado. Linear extrapolation: 669 times more than raw milk. (Source: https://en.wikipedia...in_the_United_States)


http://wwwnc.cdc.gov.../99-0502_article.htm

In the United States, foodborne diseases have been estimated to cause 6 million to 81 million illnesses and up to 9,000 deaths each year.

Extrapolating for 11 years, raw milk is responsible for 0.002% of that.

Above yielded 0.006%, and now 0.002%. Close - in the same order of magnitude at least.

http://www.australia...oisoning-statistics/

In the United States, 1 in 3 or 76 million people contract food poisoning annually. That’s 1,461,538 cases per week, 208,219 per day, 8,675 per hour, 144 per minute, 2 per second.

1,837 cases for raw milk is about 167 per year. That's 0.0002% of cases. i.e. For 1 incident of raw milk sickness (not hospitalization or death), there are over 455,000 incidents from other foods.

Some other deaths:

https://en.wikipedia...ne_illness_incidents

Which include sprouts, cold cuts, peanuts, spinach, meat, green onions, etc. etc.

http://www.cpsc.gov/library/playgrnd.pdf

From January 1990 through August 2000, CPSC received reports of 147 deaths to children younger than age 15 that involved playground equipment.

Playground deaths are then about 14.7 per year, compared to raw milk at < 0.2 per year.


http://www.colorline...led_by_the_cops.html

About 9,500 people nationally were killed by police during the years 1980 to 2005–an average of nearly one fatal shooting per day.

At about 1 per day, that's a lot more than 1 every 2,000 or so days. You're more likely to be killed by a cop than raw milk.

Automotive deaths in US from 1999 to 2009 for a direct year-range comparison: 494,056. i.e You are about 250,000 times more likely to die in/from a car. (Source: https://en.wikipedia...aths_in_U.S._by_year)


http://www.rightdiag...ctrocution/stats.htm

0.63 per million people died from electrocutions in the US 2001 (US Consumer Product Safety)

I'll compare those on 2 lines so that it's a bit easier to see - electrocutions first, then raw milk:

0.63
0.00000000058

That's 9 orders of magnitude. 9. Nine. Orders of magnitude. Wow. Thomas Edison was right! We should make electricity illegal right now~! :P Damn that Nicola Tesla for tricking us all~! :D

I can play this game forever~! :D :P

The case against raw milk is so utterly flimsy and entirely politically based, as to be so far beyond laughable that it's simply stunning.

Your risk of getting sick from raw milk is so infinitesimally small as to be of no significant consequence.

Outlawing raw milk and raiding farmers with goon-squads equiped with fully automatic weapons... Over the top. This is food fascism. The people that need to be arrested are those that trample on other people's freedoms.

The state has ZERO business in telling people what they can and cannot eat. None.

If I want to eat dog, then that's up to me. Not the state. Same for milk.


I could go on and address a lot of other things you mentioned, but have to get going. (I'd love to jump on the nutrition and vaccine thing, but... time... :( )
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Living Room / Re: DOTCOM saga - updates
« Last post by Renegade on August 09, 2012, 12:42 PM »
I thought it was the UK. Guess we'll have to battle it out for gold, silver and bronze positions.

Hmmm... Maybe we can sell tickets, then arrest people that don't smile. ;D
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Living Room / Re: It's Official: Many DC'ers Are Psychopaths~! :P
« Last post by Renegade on August 09, 2012, 11:51 AM »
You can't win if you are willing to believe the articles. You either don't have a Facebook account and it means that there is something wrong with you, or you do have a Facebook account and it means there is something wrong with you. Either way, there is still something wrong with you.

http://www.dailymail...low-self-esteem.html

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA~! ;D

Oh god... It only gets better~!

Even George Carlin would have had a tough time keeping up with the hilarity~! :D


But seriously -- +1 for the good observation about "there's something wrong with you". A bit telling, perhaps?
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Living Room / Re: Olympic coverage this year SUCKS!
« Last post by Renegade on August 09, 2012, 11:43 AM »
Ok... fair warning... you may very well pee your pants laughing at this... So, consider yourself warned~!

Ready?

No turning back now...

Man arrested at Olympics cycling event for not smiling. ;D

BWAHAHAHAHAH~!

http://www.prisonpla...ns-cycling-race.html

A spectator seeks an exoneration after he claims he was arrested for “not smiling” during the 2012 London Olympic Men’s Cycling Road Race.

Mark Worsfold, 54, a martial-arts trainer who suffers from Parkinson’s disease, wants a “letter of exoneration” after what he claims was a gross over-reaction on the part of Surrey Police.

Worsfold explains, “I was sitting minding my own business…Before I knew anything the police grabbed me off this seven-foot wall, threw me to the floor and cuffed me so all I saw of the cycle race was between the feet of people from the pavement.”

Due to his degenerative disorder, Worsfold says his face can seem expressionless.

More links in that article.

But man... It's just so nutty that I can't help but smile and laugh.

It reminds me of the people being arrested in North Korea for not weeping enough over the death of their "Dear Leader".

Who needs fiction when reality so much more entertaining~! :P BWAHAHAHAHAHA~!

Yes... I'm still laughing - hysterically!

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Living Room / Re: DOTCOM saga - updates
« Last post by Renegade on August 09, 2012, 10:49 AM »
kkipple | Ars Centurion
So is New Zealand America's 51 state or what?

WELL! That was just a rude and ignorant comment! Everyone knows Canada is the 51st state~! Get in line Kiwis~! :P ;D
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Living Room / Re: Staple of people from State and Europe !
« Last post by Renegade on August 09, 2012, 09:45 AM »
This is kind of OT, but still about food, and totally hilarious~!

http://reason.com/bl...-on-coca-cola-end-of

Bolivia’s minister of foreign affairs declared last week that December 21, the cyclical end of the Mayan calendar, would usher in a “new era free of capitalism,” and because he is not completely disconnected from reality, he did the media savvy thing and pegged his pronouncement to Coca-Cola, specifically that “December 21 has to be the end of Coca Cola, and the beginning of mocochinchi .”

Coke-banned-in-bolivia.jpg

Coke! Banned in Bolivia!

Can you imagine the illegal Coke trade? :P
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Living Room / Re: Staple of people from State and Europe !
« Last post by Renegade on August 09, 2012, 09:38 AM »
@Ren - it's a vicious circle here in the US. In order to make money running a small restaurant you need to price almost any entree at about $10 per. For dinner that's not a problem. But in order to justify the price for a lunch or breakfast they need to deliver huge servings to make it seem worthwhile to the average customer Small wonder obesity (especially in kids) is a major health issue here...
 :-\

Pretty much. :( It's quite sad. I think part of the problem is that most people just aren't educated at all about food or nutrition. Then, they eat "food-like-products", and not real food. Things get so processed that they, well, that's another rant. :)

Good food isn't really all that more expensive. Sure, you can buy a 75 g bag of chips/chocolate/sugar for $2 (or whatever), but you can also get a 200 g apple for $1. AND you can eat the packaging! (Well, if you wash it, and better if it's organic...)

If you think about it for a moment, we process food, strip out the nutrients, add in a chemical-shitstorm, then call that "value added" and "good for the economy", and end up selling inferior products for more money!  :o :P Like, on what planet is that sane?

When I was a kid, nutrition education boiled down to exactly this - no more - no less:

<insert_food_name /> is good for you.
<insert_junk_food_name /> is bad for you.

???  :tellme:

Yeah, like any kid with half a brain will believe that kind of drivel. Ahem... Why? Just bad education.


Seems processed wheat products in any form is bad:

Carbs give me food coma. If I don't want to fall asleep, I can't eat them. Pasta, bread, rice... :( But I do like them still! :) (Something that I need to change in my diet, but man... it's hard...)
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Living Room / Re: Staple of people from State and Europe !
« Last post by Renegade on August 09, 2012, 08:10 AM »
Yes, I'm amazed that with all that weight up there, the USA hasn't slid down the face of the planet and become the new land "down under".  tongue

It's because we're the most decadent, lazy society on Earth. And, the mentality of the dining-out (and -in, for that matter) American public is "you call that a full portion!?" When it comes to food portions, Americans tend to have a Texan attitude. We want it 'bigger and better'. Not to disparage the dedicated minority of US citizens who take their health seriously and even ... *shudder* ... exercise regularly.

I remember when I was a kid, my parent took my sister and me somewhere in the US. I forget where - we went fairly often as it's only a couple hour drive away from where we lived in Canada. Anyways, we're at some breakfast place, and I'm looking at the menu, and at the prices. And I see that the prices are WAY too low. Even after the exchange rate. So, I figure I'll have the LARGE stack of blueberry waffles. They can't be that large at THAT price...

Wrong. Very wrong.

It was a MASSIVE stack of waffles. Obscene. I think I ate like half or so less.

Totally false advertising. Instead of "large", they should have written "skyscraper". :P ;D

Portions here are nicely sized.
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Living Room / Re: Staple of people from State and Europe !
« Last post by Renegade on August 09, 2012, 08:05 AM »
Ren, can I have the Kangaroo Taco recipe?

I'll take a picture & post it next time. We usually have it once every week or two.

So, let's hop on that recipe~! ;D

Ingredients:

  • Kangaroo
  • Water
  • Taco seasoning
  • Avocado
  • Sour cream
  • Bell peppers (green, red, yellow, whatever)
  • Onions (yellow and red are nice)
  • Coriander
  • Iceberg lettuce
  • Tomato

Take 500 grams of kangaroo mince (hamburger) and put it in the fry pan. Do NOT turn on the heat yet. Add the taco seasoning (1 package) and about 200 ml of water (this is the secret ingredient to wicked amazing taco meat - sounds dumb, but it works) on top. Next, mix the water, meat, and seasoning all together. Make sure to chop the meat up and kneed it all together (this is particularly important for beef). Now, turn on the heat to medium. Do NOT turn it on high as high heat destroys nutritional value, and doesn't cook nearly as nice. Ideally, keep the heat as low as possible. It takes longer, but it's worth it. Stir while cooking until the water is half to mostly gone. This is a matter of taste, and more water simply makes it juicier. Don't overcook it and make it dry though.

Kangaroo is very different from beef though. It's much leaner and softer. It takes a bit more time to kneed the meat and water together compared to beef, which tends to soak up the water much easier. The freaky thing is that it's leaner, organic, healthier, and half the price of beef! I really see no reason to buy beef at all anymore since I finally discovered just how great kangaroo is. Healthier and half the price? And it's nicer meat to eat? Very tender!

I'll also sometimes use a few twists of fresh black pepper, or use some black pepper essential oil. (The black pepper essential oil I use is therapeutic grade (Young Living), and not just a nice smell. These kinds of oils can be used in cooking, but I wouldn't use some no-name brand as many cut their oils and god knows what's in it -- they're not meant for eating, etc.) Black pepper cuts down on the smell of the meat, which is needed more for beef, but kangaroo has its own smell too. (In pasta sauce, I use oregano or basil essential oil as well.) Oh, if you do use essential oil, it's measured in drops - like 1, 2, 3. Not much at all.

I tried putting in a few drops of lime juice the other night -- it worked really well! Not a lot, but just enough to blend in and give the meat a bit more zest. (I'm continually experimenting.)

That lasts for 2 meals for 2 people. If we don't have tacos the next night, the meat is good for pasta sauce.

For the taco seasoning, check the packages when you buy them. Some are 1/4 or 1/3 sugar! The ones we use are 5% (4.7% actually) and sometimes 10% sugar. I've never seen any with less sugar than 4.7%. I still need to learn how to make this myself. Same goes for taco sauce.

For the rest, I chop up an avocado and put that in a bowl. Probably around 150 grams of sour cream in another bowl. These generally last for 1 meal. You can really do a lot more here though. My wife likes them separate, so I don't go all out and make guacamole by mixing the two and seasoning them. 

On the veggie side, coriander (cilantro), green & red bell peppers (capsicum), 1 small onion (yellow/cooking), 1 small red salad onion (or other sweet onion), 2~4 leaves of iceberg lettuce, 1 medium sized tomato - all diced either finely or coarsely to taste - we generally go with a medium dice. For the lettuce, I chop it into diamonds - across the grain, then diagonally - this makes it easier to put on the tacos. Chopping it in thin strands doesn't quite work as well, but whatever works for you. For the coriander, I like to chop it up stems and all, and a bit finer as it's so leafy that you kind of need it to be a bit finer to easily put it in your taco.

We're using pickled jalapenos as my wife doesn't really like hot food all that much, and fresh ones are a bit hot for her. I like fresh jalapenos, but... If you want to "cool down" fresh jalapenos, just take the seeds out. Jalapenos aren't really all that hot compared to some other peppers.

Also, my wife isn't all that keen on cheese, so we don't use any. Most people would have cheese, and probably cheddar or colby.

We just buy shells though. Sometimes I get wraps as well as I like them, but often can't eat the whole package before they go stale. I like the stand up shells as they are easier to deal stuff, and you can put more in there! :P

For taco sauce, we're using store bought. I still need to learn how to make taco sauce and how to preserve it well enough as we can't go through a gallon of the stuff all that quickly between the two of us.

If we don't have tacos as left-overs, I throw out the lettuce and use the rest in pasta sauce. There, it's just meat, veggies, a bottle of (usually organic) pasta sauce, a bottle of passatta (tomato sauce), etc. etc. Slow cooked. It's always better the second day though. The first day is fine, but the second day the flavours have blended much better and it tastes MUCH better.


We tend to eat tacos a lot as it is one of the few things that I can competently cook (at the sound of being immodest, I do a good job with tacos - which can't be said for some other things). It's mostly just chopping veggies, which is pretty hard to screw up. :P :D
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Living Room / Re: Staple of people from State and Europe !
« Last post by Renegade on August 09, 2012, 02:31 AM »
Kangaroo tacos last night (and the night before -- I make enough for 2 days) and now pasta & kangaroo sauce~! :P Nom nom nom nom nom~! :P

This is my kangaroo pasta sauce from a few weeks ago that I'd meant to post before:

Super_Simple_cropped_DSC_0610_673x703.jpg

It really is a heck of a lot nicer than beef.
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