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Living Room / Re: Please help me build my new computer, DC!
« Last post by superboyac on December 29, 2008, 12:32 PM »
OK, I did what I think is a fairly accurate power supply calculation (using this website).  I came up with 696 W.  So, I guess I need a PSU in the 700 W range.  Check it out:
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Living Room / Re: Please help me build my new computer, DC!
« Last post by superboyac on December 29, 2008, 12:19 PM »
Last two items:  Power Supply and DVD burner.

Should I get a Blu-ray or HD burner?  I don't think I have to, since neither the discs or the burners are mainstream enough to be affordable yet.  If that's the case, I'll just reuse my current DVD burner.  I don't think the speeds of regular DVD/CD burning have changed much in the last 3 years.

Also, for PSU, I have to research more.  I want great quality and silent.  I really care about PSU.  Like I said before, I had a bad one last time and it cost me quite a bit.
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Living Room / Re: Please help me build my new computer, DC!
« Last post by superboyac on December 29, 2008, 11:52 AM »
i advise matching keyboard+mouse company: ie get mouse+keyboard both from MS or both from Logitech.  As for corded keyboard -- don't know why you would want anything else.
Yeah, I guess I'll get a corded keyboard.  I don't really move my keyboard, and the corded options are better.  I'll probably get this Logitech Wave keyboard.  It seems pretty cool.
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Living Room / Re: Please help me build my new computer, DC!
« Last post by superboyac on December 29, 2008, 12:53 AM »
Ooh!  The Logitech Wave seems to be a good keyboard, even though it's corded.  But so what.  Let me check out the Microsoft offerings and see what they have...
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Living Room / Re: Please help me build my new computer, DC!
« Last post by superboyac on December 28, 2008, 09:46 PM »
OK, here's one cost-cutting move.  Since this fancy case I'm getting has these snazzy hard drive bays built-in, with removeable aluminum trays, I don't need to get the internal enclosure from Granite Digital.  So I'm taking it out.  That's a savings of $50.  Yay!

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Living Room / Re: Please help me build my new computer, DC!
« Last post by superboyac on December 28, 2008, 03:21 PM »
Actually I am not sure you would need to buy two licenses for Windows to run a dual boot system. As you say you are running only one copy of Windows at a time on the same hardware so you should be covered by the EULA anyway. It isn't as if you have multple VMs running concurrently.
You're absolutely right.  On my laptop, I do a dual boot; one for just audio applications.  Such a great idea.  Those audio apps need all the power they can get, so the audio boot is as minimal as I can get it, and it really helps.  Hopefully, with this computer, I won't have to do that.  And with Windows 7, I hope OS efficiency will be even better.
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Living Room / Re: Please help me build my new computer, DC!
« Last post by superboyac on December 28, 2008, 03:16 PM »
Am I the only one who looks at the first post and thinks this machine is complete overkill for superboyac's needs? Seems to me like everyone is building their own dream computer vicariously for superboyac instead of helping him buy what suits his purposes
Ha!  Thanks Deozaan for your concern.  But everyone's right, I am mostly to blame for the cost so far.  I have definitely been asking for it.  I know I don't "need" most of this stuff.  At the end of all this, I am going to go through a fat-trimming, cost-cutting phase where I truly decide if I want to buy these parts or not.

On the other hand, if you look closely, it's not like I've chosen things that are a huge waste of money.  Like 40hz said, a lot of this stuff is the right choice when you look at it from a bang-for-the-buck perspective.  That being said, the truth still may be that I don't need half of whatever is banged for the buck, but I'll decide that definitely later on.  And if I really wanted to be budget-conscious about it, how much could I really save?  Let's think about it:
I'm not skimping on any of the audio equipment or the hard drive, no way.  That's $560 right there.  That's already approaching the cost of many budget Dell desktops that people get.  The graphics card is definitely a luxury for me, but again, with 2xDVI, how much will I save, $100?  That's no big deal.  I can cut out $300 if I don't get two monitors.  My case is also quite a luxury, so a normal case would easily be $100 cheaper.  The Mobo/CPU combo is about $400, but I don't like skimping there knowing I'll use this thing for years and years.

All things said, I could probably easily cut out $500 of stuff right now.  But $500 is really no big deal in the grand perspective.  I can afford it...really.  I'm not rich or anything, but I know I spend a lot of time with my computer and I make a good living.  It's really not a big deal.  More importantly, I don't think I'm being careless with the parts...just a tad on the premium quality side.  It's an impressive computer, no doubt, but it's not just eye candy...it will be a workhorse, and I'll be thankful when it's 2015 and still going strong.

Also, even on my last computer which I didn't spend nearly this much attention to, and I'm using it over 7 years later, it wasn't all that cheap.  First of all, I had to add a whole bunch of hardware to it as it went along, and I wouldn't be surprised if over the course of the 7 years if I spend over $2000 on it.  Actually, I'm pretty sure I did.  I had to replace an IBM DeathStar.  Then I bought two more hard drives for backup purposes to ensure nothing like that ever happened again.  I bought the pro soundcard.  My PSU died, and took my graphics card with it, so I had to replace those.  I bought a DVD burner.  A couple of hard disk trays and a cooler unit.  A new monitor the same time the PSU died (don't know if they were related).  So there you go...easily $2000.  I'm just doing it all up front now.
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Living Room / Re: Please help me build my new computer, DC!
« Last post by superboyac on December 28, 2008, 01:48 AM »
Question:
Is there any reason why I would want a wired keyboard?  I'm not a gamer, and from my initial research, it seems that all the premium keyboards are targeted to gamers and they are wired.  I love wireless keyboards, but I'm not finding many choices besides one or two from Logitech and Microsoft.

What's a nice, upper-class quality wireless keyboard?
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Living Room / Re: Please help me build my new computer, DC!
« Last post by superboyac on December 27, 2008, 09:34 PM »
Fry's sale for Western Digital 1TB drive

Fry's is having a sale for this drive that I'm planning on buying 3 of.  If I get it from Fry's, I get the full retail kit.  If I get it from Newegg, it's $30 cheaper and just the bare drive.  Is the retail kit a big deal?  I normally get my drives from Fry's with sales like these.  I actually got one from Newegg recently, and it was fine.  I'm guessing the retail kit is not worth it.  Any opinions?
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Living Room / Re: Please help me build my new computer, DC!
« Last post by superboyac on December 27, 2008, 08:03 PM »
Sounds like an interesting topic for another thread.  I guess it's important to have a ps2 keyboard around for emergencies.  What a pain.
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Living Room / Re: Please help me build my new computer, DC!
« Last post by superboyac on December 27, 2008, 07:25 PM »
Can't you find compatible Logitech devices thaqt can share the USB receivers?
I didn't know you could do that if you buy them separately.  I'll look.  But I really want the MX 1100, so I'm not going to compromise that.

I hate USB keyboards for that reason (or should it be I hate Windows for that reason). You'd think MS would have the sense to initialise USB keyboards and mice before boot time apps run!!!
You know, that's a good point.  But I have a wireless keyboard (logitech) at work and it works fine for Bios and boot stuff.  I'll make sure to get one that works.

Why do you hate inkjets so much? I really like my Canon PIXMA MX850 brilliant printing (and a great scanner and fax) and not particularly expensive on consumables. I know inkjets are more expensive to run than B&W laser printers but you can't fault the quality of output these days (at lease not from Canon printers).
My printing needs are probably different than yours.  I don't really ever print in color.  I hate how slow they are (even the fast ones).  And their ink lasts for so little compared to lasers.  It's just annoying.  I love laser printers.  But I still print so seldom that I don't think I need one.  This will probably be a decision very late in the game.
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Living Room / Re: Please help me build my new computer, DC!
« Last post by superboyac on December 27, 2008, 04:26 PM »
According to Anandtech, the Logitech MX 1100 is the update to the two-year old MX Revolution.  So, I will be getting that mouse. However, it doesn't come in a nice keyboard/mouse combo package, so I'll have to get the keyboard separately.  That's ok.

About the MX 1100 (mouser will be happy), there is no charging cradle and it uses AA batteries.  That's actually easier for me because I always have some AA batteries charged up and ready to go.

Now I have to find a nice wireless keyboard.  The only annoying thing about this not being a package is that I will now have two USB receivers instead of one.

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Living Room / Re: Please help me build my new computer, DC!
« Last post by superboyac on December 27, 2008, 01:34 AM »
oh yeah!  I can't stand inkjets.  Their only use is for affordable color printing, and even laser colors are catching up in affordability now.  I'm not too concerned about low toner...I don't print much at all at home anyway, seriously, I print maybe once a month if that.  That's why I may not even get one.  All my printing is done at work, and it's all work stuff, not personal.  What do I need to print?  I can't even think of anything.
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Living Room / Re: Please help me build my new computer, DC!
« Last post by superboyac on December 24, 2008, 03:53 PM »
Well...maybe.  It's just that I so rarely have to print at home.  But ok, I'll get one if I must.  I have my own work printer.

Of course, I will only consider laser printers.  I hate inkjets with a passion.

The other thing I was thinking about.  I may be moving soon, and when I move I'll really need a printer.  I was thinking I don't need an additional thing to lug around.  But that's a little trivial, it's so little.  Whatever...I'll stick it back in I suppose.
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Living Room / Re: Please help me build my new computer, DC!
« Last post by superboyac on December 24, 2008, 01:10 PM »
I took out the printer.  I don't need one at home, and I can always print at work on better printer than I could ever get.
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Living Room / Re: Please help me build my new computer, DC!
« Last post by superboyac on December 24, 2008, 12:32 PM »
How about a Q9400? It comes with a Intel water bottle :D. The most expensive Intel Quad Core offer I would get is the Q9550, from there, price increases exponentially and the returns of the inversion are much lower. The sweet spot should be the Q9300, but for some reason, it's more expensive than the Q9400 right now, although it runs at a few less MHz.

If you prefer a Dual Core, the E8500 is nicely priced.
Sounds good to me, thank you...it's going in the list.

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My goodness, this is expensive.
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Living Room / Re: Please help me build my new computer, DC!
« Last post by superboyac on December 24, 2008, 10:23 AM »
OK, maybe I'll hold off on this...I'll put it in the list and get it later.

Next item to choose...the CPU!  What should I get?  Based on earlier posts here, the thinking was i7 would be too expensive and not worth it, so I'm figuring some kind of Intel quad core or something (yes I want intel).  I don't know exactly what to get, so please help.  THanks.
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Living Room / Re: Please help me build my new computer, DC!
« Last post by superboyac on December 24, 2008, 09:18 AM »
So should I get the card above?  If I get it today, I'll save $20...no big deal.  Maybe I'll just wait and get it later, $20 ain't going to break the bank.
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Living Room / Re: Please help me build my new computer, DC!
« Last post by superboyac on December 23, 2008, 04:10 PM »
ATI Radeon HD 4870 512MB[/b] (approx $200)
There's a nice sale for this going on right now:
http://www.newegg.co...Item=N82E16814102810
Maybe I should decide quickly and get it, because it's only $180.  Good deal?  If I get a couple of affirmatives, I may order it tonight!
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Living Room / Re: Please help me build my new computer, DC!
« Last post by superboyac on December 23, 2008, 04:04 PM »
Superboy: https://www.donation....msg143660#msg143660 - the card I mention there is realtively low-cost and has 2xDVI.

DVI supposedly has somewhat better quality. You might not be able to spot the difference though, unless you're going to use KVMs. VGA/D-SUB signals are analog and often suck through KVMs, whereas DVI is digital.
That's a cool card also, I'll have to consider it.  The only thing that concerns me is that on Newegg, the card is not selling, saying "deactivated".
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Living Room / Re: Please help me build my new computer, DC!
« Last post by superboyac on December 23, 2008, 03:47 PM »
Thanks 40hz & Carol!  Should I spoil myself and get a $200 card?  Hmm....maybe.  One thing I noticed, the higher end cards have two dvi plugs and the lower end ones have one dvi plus one vga plug.  Is there a reason?  I remember one time I plugged one of those vga to dvi converters for a monitor and it didn't work well.  I'm assuming these are not a problem anymore.
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Living Room / Re: Please help me build my new computer, DC!
« Last post by superboyac on December 23, 2008, 01:13 PM »
and when you are ready to upgrade to 4 monitors just get 2 of those cards.
4 monitors?!  What do you do?
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Living Room / Re: Please help me build my new computer, DC!
« Last post by superboyac on December 23, 2008, 12:46 PM »
So what is a good dual-monitor card for my case?  I'm thinking ATI Radeon or Nvidia.  The Matrox look interesting, but I'm not familiar with them, so I don't know what to think.
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General Software Discussion / Re: The OS that won't die!
« Last post by superboyac on December 22, 2008, 10:53 PM »
Thanks!
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Living Room / Re: Please help me build my new computer, DC!
« Last post by superboyac on December 22, 2008, 06:55 PM »
Fry's has a sale for 4GB RAM, Corsair, DDR3 PC3-12800 1600MHz Twinx Memory.  $130
http://www.frys-elec...1600MHz-Twinx-Memory

Do i want this?
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