Dont want to take the thread too much off-topic, but chewing on these:
Kind of like C. S. Lewis' famous quote:
Of all tyrannies, a tyranny exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron’s cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience. They may be more likely to go to Heaven yet at the same time likelier to make a Hell of earth. Their very kindness stings with intolerable insult. To be ‘cured’ against one’s will and cured of states which we may not regard as disease is to be put on a level of those who have not yet reached the age of reason or those who never will; to be classed with infants, imbeciles, and domestic animals.-C. S. Lewis
...Now why do you recon that keeps happening? Is/was it a flaw in the "system" ... Or maybe was it (human nature) just us?
-Stoic Joker
ties in very much with your earlier brilliant comment:
... we also suffer the most self-righteous desire to inflict our will on our surroundings.
-Stoic Joker
I dont believe it's human nature, but, along with the whole idea (or abuse of the idea) of power over others - hmm...
I think all of our current problems go back to two things:
# the 'scaling' of society - a family/small-tribal group probably originally worked much more effectively than any of todays societies/states - I think we're still struggling with that evolution of scale.
# language: language is a huge (and wonderful) development, but allows us to kid ouselves about an awful lot of things...