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Living Room / Re: Ideas to make DC even better
« Last post by mouser on December 26, 2007, 08:08 PM »
maybe you could do something similar as what Ryan set up in the CyberNet News forum, with ads being displayed for non registered members

this is indeed exactly what we used to do.

again my instinct was that this was not helpful.  for 2 reasons:
1) it was yet one more thing to have to explain, and just made things more complicated for people to understand.
2) i think it was counter productive.  the ads weren't annoying enough to get people to register to remove them, and i think they therefore thought "well if i don't mind the ads then i shouldnt have to donate"
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Living Room / Re: Ideas to make DC even better
« Last post by mouser on December 26, 2007, 07:14 PM »
I am extremely grateful for any advice, suggestions, critiques, etc. about ways to improve DC's financial health -- i'm not good with such things and i'm very thankful to have any help in thinking about such issues.
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Living Room / Re: Ideas to make DC even better
« Last post by mouser on December 26, 2007, 06:14 PM »
Veign,

I actually don't remember any strong opposition to the ads, maybe one or two people who had a negative reaction, but most people took a middle of the road stand.

Also don't forget that i already wrote code that lets supporting members turn off all ads on the site.
And in fact we could easily let anyone (supporting member or not) turn off ads for themselves and it wouldn't have a noticeable difference on any ad revenue.

In short -- if we put ads back, we can very easily let anyone who doesn't want to see ads turn them off.

So the only question then is what psychological effect it has on visitors to the site.  My gut feeling, and one of the reasons i've never left ads on the site for long, is that people might be less likely to voluntarily donate if they see the ads and think we are making money from ads.. And i'd rather have more supporting members who are vested in the site and feel good about funding it, vs. anonymous ad-supported clicks, even if the ads bring in a little bit more money. i just though that the community as a whole would be healthier.  But it's a tradeoff.
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Living Room / Re: Ideas to make DC even better
« Last post by mouser on December 26, 2007, 06:10 PM »
I should say this isn't really about pursuadeing me as much as it is about making a decision as a community.  Some people really hate ads with a passion, some don't mind them at all.  I don't think they are pure evil but i'm definitely on the side of the spectrum that doesn't like them.

However i completely understand that they are an important way that many sites raise enough money to be able to finance the site, and i would never begrudge anyone for putting ads on their site in order to make a little revenue so that they can keep working on the site.

In the case of DC, let's remember that the goal is not to maximize profits at all costs.  The goal is to make a site we can all be proud of and excited about, and which raises money to fund the stuff it wants to do.  Money helps a lot because it means I and others can spend more time coding stuff and doing other stuff for DC, but we *will* make sue and continue soldiering on regardless of how much money the site raises.

So really these kinds of decisions are up to everyone who makes up the site.

Financially the site is in a kind of weird position.. We raise enough money from donations to pay the server hosting costs every month.  There are no paid "employees" on this site.  That means that there is no danger of this site going away and we can continue like this forever, without any ads etc.

The other side of the coin however, is that the site does not take in enough money for anyone to work on DC as their full time job.  I come close to it sometimes, and i really was working full time on DC for the first year or two.  But I have to take "real" paying work in order to pay for my rent and food, and student loans.

It would be an amazing thing if the site had enough income to actual make it something i could work on full time without having to worry about taking other real jobs.  There are so many programming ideas and additions to the site, and web services that i would LOVE to work on for DC as my full time job.  There are probably others here who feel the same way.  When the site started i didn't for a minute dream that could ever be true.  It's still not something i can imagine happening in the near future, but perhaps one day DC will receive enough funding that it might be possible.  I don't know.

But anyway, the point is that right now we are not in the situation of NEEDING to raise X dollars per year and looking for ways to raise it (ads, etc.).  But rather we are in the situation of using the money we raise to allocate time and resources to the site -- the more we raise, the more time i/we can work on it.  So we as a community have the luxury of pursuing only the funding options we feel we want to.
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Post New Requests Here / Re: "IDEA: " Auto Fit for Explorer windows
« Last post by mouser on December 26, 2007, 05:34 PM »
I'm a big fan of FileBox eXtender as well.
Also see CFDButton written by a dc member recently:
https://www.donation...ndex.php?topic=11165
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Living Room / Re: Ideas to make DC even better
« Last post by mouser on December 26, 2007, 05:21 PM »
I think #1 is a great idea.
Especially for coders who have written and shared their programs on DC, it seems like a perfect idea.

#2 is more tricky.. we actually have tried google ads in the past, and probably will occasionally experiment with it just to see if it ever becomes a viable thing.  Past experience has been dissapointing.. from my standpoint the revenue that ads brought in (which was from $4 to $15 a day) just did not seem to me to overcome the the detrimental effects of having ads on the site.

In general i just am really uncomfortable with the way the entire internet and software world are becoming advertising-driven, as i've written about before.. My worries would carry over to the advertising revenue sharing idea -- i would worry a little about people making posts for the main purpose of getting hits and therefore advertising money.  Note that whenever we provide webspace for someone we make clear they are welcome to put google ads up on the page and try to make some revenue -- it never seems to be worth it though so no one does.

in summary -- i'm not dead set against putting ads on the site.. if the ads made it possible for me and other coders to spend significantly more time coding and less time worrying about getting donations, then it's definitely something i would at least consider.  but there would have to be a really compelling economic reason to do so.

i'd so much rather get funding from real users who can take pride in funding the site.
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Post New Requests Here / Re: "IDEA: " Auto Fit for Explorer windows
« Last post by mouser on December 26, 2007, 03:29 PM »
I would also like to see "Details" view at all times in a "Save File As" dialog and similar dialogs.
https://www.donation...Extenders/index.html
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Post New Requests Here / Re: [IDEA] Selective file deleter
« Last post by mouser on December 26, 2007, 03:14 PM »
This might be relevant as well:
https://www.donation...index.php?topic=3735
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Find And Run Robot / Re: paste command great, lacking special whitespace
« Last post by mouser on December 26, 2007, 02:41 PM »
sorry for the delay in responding.. yes there will be updated in january and this is sure to be in it.
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what if we instead had a key that one would use to QUEUE up the current result.
so whether you typed a file or a command, you could either launch it as normal, or "queue" it by hitting alt+Q or something like that (or control+#).  The queued items would have to be shown somewhere, not sure where.

after an item is queued, the search box clears and you can type in new stuff to search for.  FARR would restrict results to items that can work with the already queued thing(s).

so if you queue a file, only alias commands that work with files or other files would be matched/
and if you queue a command, no more alias commands would be matched, only files.

issues to be solved:
how to show queued list of items
how to let user edit/clear it.
how to have user indicate that they want to queue a result rather than launch it.

ideally the queuing system could be used to also implement custom plugin actions (ie a process plugin could let you select a process and then "queue" it and then select from a plugin-specific set of actions to apply to it).
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Dr.Windows / Re: Tips for Dr.Windows!
« Last post by mouser on December 26, 2007, 10:53 AM »
Always nice to meet someone using the program  :up:
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Living Room / Re: 2007: My 'Best of' list
« Last post by mouser on December 26, 2007, 10:29 AM »
I put very heavy weight on recommendations like this from people I know.. I'll be watching it.

Dual LCDs -> I agree, it's the only way to go.
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Find And Run Robot / Re: Suggestion: List by Alphabet Letters
« Last post by mouser on December 25, 2007, 11:37 PM »
I've thought about this before since it's a pretty easy thing to add.
As you say, you would launch with alt+letter.

Let me tell you why i decided against it:
  • First, i think that from a usability standpoint, any result not in the top 10 is not likely to be the one you want to launch, and the better solution is to narrow things down.  In other words i think that cognitively it's going to be hard to launch items > 10 regardless of whether there is a hotkey or not, since we just aren't looking that far down.
  • Second, i think that it will be more useful to us to keep the alt+LETTER hotkeys available for other things, like alt+P for preferences, and other hotkeys for showing context menu, etc.
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Find And Run Robot / Re: Search subdirectories?
« Last post by mouser on December 25, 2007, 11:30 PM »
Could it be my use of an older version (that did not have a memory error I was getting) resulted in this behaviour?

yes.

well actually, all versions of farr have always searched recursively through the directories, so that wouldn't be the problem per se, but it's certainly possible that a bug in an older version is somehow causing the program.. do you mean that you are just typing the plain name of a program in a subdirectory and it's not finding it in a subdirectory? or are you doing explicit directory browsing by typing something like "C:\program files\blahh" in the search edit.

btw:
so much stuff has been added to farr v2 since version 1 was out that you really want to be using version 2.  i'll try to figure out why win98 is having this error.  you might get yourself a holiday gift of windows xp though, its a big improvement.
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Find And Run Robot / Re: [feature request] %path%, network paths and autocomplete
« Last post by mouser on December 25, 2007, 11:28 PM »
ok #1 i will put on my todo list, #2 i'm going to have to think about a little more..
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Living Room / Re: DonationCoder celebration ideas and requests to help
« Last post by mouser on December 25, 2007, 06:59 PM »
ken, i think that's actually a very good idea.
not to sell it, but to offer a cd of all the dc stuff as a bonus to people who donate (or donate above some amount).
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I'd love some feedback about whether you think this newsletter was too long, too "chatty", too "beggy", etc.
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Find And Run Robot / Re: Search subdirectories?
« Last post by mouser on December 25, 2007, 01:38 PM »
FARR *always* searches subdirectories, so you only need to list the parent directory.

however, as you surmised, because FARR does not use an index (there are pros and cons to indices, though it's like to be an option in the future), FARR is not suitable for searching an entire large disk in the normal fashion.

for such things you have some options: you can use the locate32 plugin,
or you can set up specific modifiers that let you search different specific directories on demand.
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Find And Run Robot / Re: Bug: Memory error on latest version
« Last post by mouser on December 25, 2007, 01:26 PM »
ouch.. hmm i wonder what this is.. if its a win98 issue.
do you get it every time you close FARR v2 on windows 98?
I will try to reproduce on a windows 98 machine.
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We've had some very long running discussions about building multi-part actions in FARR:


usually what happens is that i end up feeling like i dont have a perfect grasp on the "right" way to add it in terms of user interface, and so end up putting off implementing it.

but i'm open to the possibility of figuring out a "pretty good" solution that handles most cases..

the basic idea of having a key/character which is a separator between items, as you say like > or ; in your examples (though those could be used in other cases so we probably need another character), and then have FARR always be searching using the rightmost item, and then try to combine them.  That sounds like it might handle most of these cases..  and then the icing on the cake would be if we had the custom context menu actions as we've discussed elsewhere and let that be triggered by the separator as well..

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Find And Run Robot / Re: [feature request] %path%, network paths and autocomplete
« Last post by mouser on December 25, 2007, 11:50 AM »
could you explain #1 a little more? do you mean you want farr to resolve all %BLAH% where BLAH is an environment variable like MyDocuments, etc.?  Or something else?

and as for #2.. can i just clarify  something.. there are 2 issues here:
a) should FARR keep in history the complete search strings when you do things like launch aliases, etc, and show those in search results on partial match.
b) should farr use some kind of standard auto-complete box which is different from the way it displays results now.  im not sure how to do that without interfering with current results..
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I agree completely with you guys about custom context menus, especially for plugins.
Now that people are really making plugins i need to put this at higher priority.

I am absolutely committed to adding the features you plugin writers want to make your plugins better, so please do not hesitate to make requests.  You might even email me directly as well, so that we can keep in touch and make sure i don't forget, etc. ([email protected])
 
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minor update posted, but with some important bugfixes if you are trying to create your own item definitions.
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General Software Discussion / Re: 11 Top New Web Apps of 2007 - from lifehack.org
« Last post by mouser on December 25, 2007, 02:34 AM »
two quick things:
1) this is lifehack.org not lifehacker.com
2) the fact that the images link to themselves is surely a mistake, not a purposeful thing -- as they link to the identical images not larger versions.
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GOE 2007 Challenge Downloads / Re: HowLong2It - GOE Challenge 2007 Entry
« Last post by mouser on December 25, 2007, 02:15 AM »
then it opens without any entries in it.

tinjaw the program is loading configuration/data file from working directory, instead of directory where the program lives?
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