When you choose evil without coercion, even if it is a lesser evil, there's something seriously WRONG there.
-Renegade
Not.. necessarily. Take a US election, with two candidates, and other marginalized ones. You can vote for the one that would do the least harm. Or you can vote for someone else. Or you can not vote at all.
Not voting at all is not making a choice. Similarly, if pragmatically your candidate won't win... that's not really a choice either. Those kinds of choices for the non-mainstream candidate are made before an election and during the campaign. Not at the ballots. Once it becomes obvious that the marginalized candidate won't win, all you do by voting for them is reduce the pool of effective votes.
Voting for the lesser evil in that case, is the pragmatic choice. You're not actually choosing the lesser evil- you're choosing against the greater one.
-wraith808
You are far more optimistic than I am.
As far as I can see, voting is at very best a complete waste of time. It's simply supporting controlled opposition where your choices are only facets of the same beast.
One of the beasts heads threatens you with X, and the other with Y. At any time those threats might change to J and K. Voting against X or Y or J or K is still supporting the beast and validating its existence.
The only rational option I can see is to not play the game, because by playing it, you are guaranteed to lose.
If the game were already over it wouldn't matter. But so as long as it feels disturbing, there's still hope. It's when it doesn't feel like anything that we'll really need to worry.
-40hz
Excellent point.
To define the terms and scope pf a discussion is to control it.
We're already seeing it happen today in the "nuanced" testimony and comments of those in power who place their own self-serving re-definitions on words such as: collateral, redaction, privileged, and legal
We can expect to see even more of this in the future if we continue to allow it to go unchallenged. Unchecked, and it will eventually lead to something resembling this scene in Orwell's 1984:
-40hz
Absolutely.
If we want to look at it humorously, the system is very Humpty Dumptyish:
http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/12http://www.gutenberg...che/epub/12/pg12.txt'And only ONE for birthday presents, you know. There's glory for you!'
'I don't know what you mean by "glory,"' Alice said.
Humpty Dumpty smiled contemptuously. 'Of course you don't--till I tell
you. I meant "there's a nice knock-down argument for you!"'
'But "glory" doesn't mean "a nice knock-down argument,"' Alice objected.
'When _I_ use a word,' Humpty Dumpty said in rather a scornful tone, 'it
means just what I choose it to mean--neither more nor less.'
'The question is,' said Alice, 'whether you CAN make words mean so many
different things.'
'The question is,' said Humpty Dumpty, 'which is to be master--that's
all.'
While that may seem a bit extreme, it really isn't all that out of line with reality. You can look at any set of laws or any contract/agreement and you will always see a set of definitions. Quite often the definitions are far from what you would expect.
For example, when a police officer asks you if you "understand", that isn't asking whether or not you comprehend - it's asking if you agree. We're pretty far down the rabbit hole already...
But you can look in the news to find examples of truly twisted Orwellian language used on a daily basis. e.g. "Global warming" means that the world gets colder. Very double-plus-ungood. "National Security". Nuff said.
We still have a lot to lose. The way things are going, we're headed for "Camp Earth" where everywhere is like Camp 14. A prison planet if you will.