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1901
General Software Discussion / Re: Are Recovery Disks Brand Specific?
« Last post by 40hz on May 12, 2014, 01:59 PM »
But this would have been handy to know back before the deadline so a few things could have been saved while still accessible. :-\

...Then again I could have just missed it.
-Stoic Joker (May 12, 2014, 01:48 PM)

I doubt it. They seemed to be trying to keep it off the radar as much as possible without being too obvious about it. I do read most of the HP propaganda and I don't recall seeing it talked up in any of the normal pubic announcements. They probably only really gave it significant mention in the partner channel communiques. (And I don't get those any more.)

I do have a tendency to reflexively gloss past certain - draconian corporate - terms that conflict with my definition of fair use...
-Stoic Joker (May 12, 2014, 01:48 PM)

Yup. And I'm sure they're hoping most people will continue to do just that... :-\

Because the devil is in the details. And the rabbit punches and "liver jabs" are often found in the fine print. Usually somewhere halfway down on page 88 of 173. :tellme:
1902
General Software Discussion / Re: Are Recovery Disks Brand Specific?
« Last post by 40hz on May 12, 2014, 01:51 PM »
Note: the license for that OEM copy of Windows that ships with a PC is not transferable and is legally for use only on the machine it originally shipped with. That's why it cost much less than the full retail version Microsoft would be happy to sell you. Not to say an OEM licensed copy of Windows can't be physically installed and validated on another machine. But it is a EULA violation to do do.

Just sayin'  ;)
For the record - this is not fully true in Germany:
from an(y) ebay.de reseller of OEM Windows 7 -
Lizenzbestimmung: Durch das Urteil des Bundesgerichtshofs wurde der Verkauf von OEM-Versionen und DSP-Versionen ohne zugehörige Hardware erlaubt. Daher dürfen Sie diese Lizenz auf jedem xbeliebigem Rechner einsetzen. Dies ist im Bundesgerichtshof Urteil vom 06.07.2000 - I ZR 244/97 auch eindeutig dokumentiert.
-
roughly: the courts ruled that OEM versions may be sold without related hardware.

FWIW, they usually resell Dell OEM's


Most interesting! More on that here.

Glad to see the EU courts aren't falling for the arguments used in the US to abrogate a buyer's 'first sale' rights.

Thx for sharing that. :Thmbsup:
1903
Beautifully done! Speaks volumes about the human psyche and how it deals with separation and loss. :Thmbsup:
1904
General Software Discussion / Re: Are Recovery Disks Brand Specific?
« Last post by 40hz on May 12, 2014, 12:13 PM »
did you read something else that said they were instating a policy shift? Dumping driver download onto the support staff sounds like a great way to inspire a revolt to me.

I'm just curious, because I've heard nothing about this ... And you'd think that kind of think would get mentioned in the news letter...Ya know?
-Stoic Joker (May 12, 2014, 11:46 AM)


Per PC World:

HP starts charging for server firmware updates

PC owners probably don’t give firmware updates much thought and rarely, if ever, seek them out directly. Enthusiasts and small businesses running low-end servers, on the other hand, have a keener interest in firmware since sometimes skipping an update can be fatal for their investment.

But getting those firmware updates for Hewlett-Packard’s servers are about to get a little more difficult. HP says that beginning next Wednesday, February 19, it will effectively start charging for access to firmware updates through the company’s support center. Only customers with an active warranty, an HP Care Pack subscription, or support agreement will be able to download the updates directly from HP.

Previously, HP firmware updates were freely available.

“This decision reinforces our goal to provide access to the latest HP firmware, which is valuable intellectual property, for our customers who have chosen to maximize and protect their IT investments,” HP’s Mary McCoy vice president for technology services said in a blog post.

Here's McCoy's blog post mentioned in the above article.

And here's the official FAQ.

Apparently "safety & security" related patches will still be made freely available. At least for the time being according to the FAQ. But everything else (performance/enhanced features/etc.) is pay to play.

The official response from HP is:

“These changes will provide our customers with a consistent experience for downloading ProLiant firmware and SPP based on product level entitlement.”

Interesting that "based on  product level entitlement" part. Guess HP figured they were leaving money on the table and decided to protect their authorized support partner channel members with that one. Looks like they feel too many non-authorized (and more cost effective) support orgs are poaching on their "rightful" turf.

It's been all over the web AFAICT:

Spoiler
   HP Restricting Access to Server Firmware Updates | LINDSAY HILL

    Feb 9, 2014 ... HP Restricting Access to Server Firmware Updates ... So now when we go to download updates we are going to have to ensure that those ...

    www.lkhill.com/hp-restricting-access-to-server-firmware-updates/ - View by Ixquick Proxy - Highlight
    HP clampdown on 'unauthorised' server fixing to start in January ...

    Dec 23, 2013 ... Exclusive Hewlett-Packard will start restricting who is allowed to fix its ... and Service Pack for ProLiant (SPP) access for ProLiant Servers that will protect ... will see HP "create a consistent customer experience for downloading ...

    www.theregister.co.uk/2013/12/23/hewlett_packard_support_clampdown/ - View by Ixquick Proxy - Highlight
    HP starts charging for server firmware updates | PCWorld

    Feb 10, 2014 ... Hewlett-Packard says its firware updates for servers are valuable ... or support agreement will be able to download the updates directly from HP. ... It's not clear if HP will restrict access to critical firmware updates that are ...

    www.pcworld.com/ article/ 2095434/ hp-starts-charging-for-server-firmware-updates.html - View by Ixquick Proxy - Highlight
    HP Proliant Servers - Solutions to Common Download Problems

    To access download files availabel on the HP Business Support Center web site, you .... See "What do I do if my company firewall restricts access to ftp" below.

    h20564.www2.hp.com/ portal/ site/ hpsc/ template.PUBLIC_SP4TS_REDIRECTOR/ bizsupport/ TechSupport/ Document.jsp?objectID=c01844814 - View by Ixquick Proxy - Highlight
    HP to begin charging for firmware updates and service packs - ZDNet

    Feb 8, 2014 ... Beginning this month, HP is restricting access to firmware updates and .... But downloads for Cisco servers (the Cisco Unified Computing ...

    www.zdnet.com/ hp-to-begin-charging-for-firmware-updates-and-service-packs-for-serve rs-7000026110/ - View by Ixquick Proxy - Highlight
    HP to restrict access to ProLiant service packs and firmware updates ...

    Feb 10, 2014 ... HP server customers will need an active warranty, HP Care Pack or ... is required to access the latest firmware updates and SPP downloads.

    www.v3.co.uk/ v3-uk/ news/ 2327963/ hp-to-restrict-access-to-proliant-service-packs-and-firmware-updates - View by Ixquick Proxy - Highlight
    HP Adds Restrictions to Server Patching - Tom's IT Pro

    Dec 26, 2013 ... HP plans to stamp out the under-cutting support services allowing only ... Service Pack for ProLiant (SPP) access for ProLiant Servers that will protect ... will see HP "create a consistent customer experience for downloading ...

    www.tomsitpro.com/ articles/ hp-service-updates-proliant-servers, 1-1508.html - View by Ixquick Proxy - Highlight
    hardware - HP plan to restrict access to ProLiant server firmware ...

    Essentially, you must have active warranty and support on your servers in order to access firmware downloads (and presumably, the HP Service Pack for ...

    www.serverfault.com/ questions/ 571933/ hp-plan-to-restrict-access-to-proliant-server-firmware-consequences - View by Ixquick Proxy - Highlight
    HP Restricts ProLiant Firmware Updates to Warranty Customers ...

    Feb 12, 2014 ... HP is restricting access to firmware and service pack upgrades for its ... HP's Mary McCoy says ProLiant server BIOS and other firmware updates are ... easily accessible way for our customers to download firmware updates.

    www.thevarguy.com/ computer-technology-hardware-solutions-and-news/ 021214/ hp-restricts-proliant-firmware-updates-warranty-cust - View by Ixquick Proxy - Highlight
    iTWire - Hewlett-Packard to restrict ProLiant firmware and driver ...

    Feb 5, 2014 ... If your business is running HP ProLiant servers you'll know that HP makes ... To use these drivers you could either download stand-alone drivers or, ... Select server firmware and SPP on these products will only be accessed ...

    www.itwire.com/ opinion-and-analysis/ the-wired-cio/ 63021-hewlett-packard-to-restrict-proliant-firmware-and-driver-update s - View by Ixquick Proxy - Highlight


 8)

Addendum: If I go to the support download page based on the p/n you gave, I see "Entitlement Required" for Smart Update, the Service Pack (SPP), the Maintenance Bundle for SPP, and BIOS. Most seem to still be capable of being downloaded however. (AFAIK the Smart-stuff always required a subscription, so that's no surprise.)

They do, however, have this language on some of the download pages:

These downloads are available for customers according to the terms in the HP Software License Agreement. Certain software may require a valid warranty, current support contract with HP, or a license fee.

I wonder if maybe they've backed off on some of this in practice - even though not officially?
1905

To me W8 is negligible except for the imperative to keep up for support work purposes. :)

Edit:  W8 I guess is at least a learning vehicle for GPT and EUFI stuff.  Other than that I hate it.

I have less issues with Win8 than I did originally. But I still very much dislike it in its current incarnation. And I completely despise Microsoft's implementations (reinterpretations?) of GPT/UEFI. And I also don't much care for the Metro-like interface they slapped on top of Windows Server 2012 - although (with tolerance born of necessity) I'm getting used to it.

Other than that, Microsoft Rocks! (not) ;D :P
1906
General Software Discussion / Re: Are Recovery Disks Brand Specific?
« Last post by 40hz on May 12, 2014, 09:42 AM »
I'm guessing they'll probably work with almost anything.

You might want to hold onto them in case you ever need an "emergency copy" of XP. <wink-wink>  :)
1907
General Software Discussion / Re: 4 (Maybe more) Absolute top go-to programs
« Last post by 40hz on May 12, 2014, 09:11 AM »
^I ran into some stability issues with Claws under Windows when I tried it. But that was some time ago so I'm guessing it was either me - or they fixed it?
1908
Developer's Corner / Re: You have ruined Javascript... Rob Ashton on AngularJS
« Last post by 40hz on May 12, 2014, 09:04 AM »
Finally got around to reading that.

Bloody!

Here I thought things were about as ugly as you could get design and syntax-wise with pHp. Then along comes something "new" that makes even Ada look sleek and elegant by comparison.  :tellme:
1909
General Software Discussion / Re: Are Recovery Disks Brand Specific?
« Last post by 40hz on May 12, 2014, 08:28 AM »
It depends. Quickest way to find out is to try. General rule of thumb: look at the disk directory. If it looks like a regular Windows CD, it will probably work. If you just see a few setup type executables plus long list of cryptically named files (like DM1134.MM or IMGSET.001...002...003 etc.) it probably won't work.

Older recovery disks from many vendors (like Dell) would usually work on any PC. That's because they were standard Windows disks tricked out with an installer shell and manufacturer specific driver sets, utility programs, and (later) crapware they were being paid to load on a fresh installation.

Newer disks, and most from Sony and HP, can be very brand (and in some cases model) specific. Not hard to do since a query to the BIOS will usually reveal make/model/ serial# info - all of which could be keyed to the supplied (or user created) recovery disk set.

The real tech hassle using another maker's recovery disks is that you'll need to obtain hardware drivers specific to your machine. A minor niggle. But one to be aware of.  And there's also a new issue that may become problematic down the road. HP has started a new policy of restricting free and open access to driver and BIOS updates for their servers. If you don't have a support subscription - no driver downloads for you! It will be interesting to see if other manufacturers follow suit - or if the practice spreads to desk and laptop models.

Note: the license for that OEM copy of Windows that ships with a PC is not transferable and is legally for use only on the machine it originally shipped with. That's why it cost much less than the full retail version Microsoft would be happy to sell you. Not to say an OEM licensed copy of Windows can't be physically installed and validated on another machine. But it is a EULA violation to do do.

Just sayin'  ;)
1910
The Mint is still pretty sluggish.

That's likely because of the virtualization. That's why I think it's better to just run Linux live and off a USB key if you're not gonna install it for real. VMs are ok for occasional use. But for any sort of real day to day productivity, unless your machine has serious kahunas, the results are often disappointing running virtual under a Type-2 hypervisor (i.e. OS-level rather than baremetal) - which to me is more a glorified sandbox than a true virtual environment. (That's purely my opinion BTW. There are many who will strongly disagree with me on that point.  ;D)

But FWIW, I've got Mint 16 installed baremetal on a couple of older Core 2 Duo laptops with 4Gb RAM (and those slow laptop drives) and the response is very crisp. On my i5-powered box with 8Gb RAM, Mint flies.

 8)
1911
Living Room / Re: Bye-bye Wi-Fi?
« Last post by 40hz on May 11, 2014, 06:38 PM »
Now of course I know nothing about the type of regulation on this but if it works along the same lines as a wireless home phone seems like there is little the FCC could do.

There may or may not be little that can be done under current rules and laws.

But governments can always grant themselves additional or new powers. See tha Patriot Act for some examples.

Fifty years ago, the idea of the US government operating an incarceration and interrogation center like that found in Guantanamo Bay would have not only been unthinkable, it would have also been seen as unequivocally illegal and an unconstitutional abuse of Executive power.

But under the last two presidents, the Executive branch and Justice Department have not only argued that it is legal - but also beyond the authority of the US Supreme Court (which according to the US Constitution is the supreme and final legal authority in the United States) to intervene in any manner - or rule on its continued existence.

So please don't say there's nothing the government can do. Governments can do pretty much whatever they want when they feel the need. And they usually do. Most times with minimal resistance from the people under their rule.

All it takes is one little signature on a piece of paper and the rules have been changed. :huh:
1912
^I track so many NIX/FOSS resources that I can easily wear out my welcome. ;D

And I try not to data dump (too much) - so let me know if you want/need more.

Cheers! :Thmbsup:
1913
40hz once linked to a website/blog from a guy who reviews distro's, but I didn't find the link anymore. That blog is gold if you are looking for a distro that is "just you".

Two good desktop distro review site links:


Desktop Linux Reviews
(da name sez it all!)

Dedoimedo (not just reviews of distros - most of what's here is solid gold too)

also check out:


How To Forge
(more sysadmin and project oriented - but also good how-tos on setting up what they consider "the perfect desktop" under various flavors of Linux. Highly recommended.)

Gnomefiles (sorta like Snapfiles is for Windows, except for Gnome and related desktop users)

Linux Foundation Videos (for those times when a quick "show me" is worth more than an hour long explanation or a 300 page manual read)

FLOSS Manuals (repository of texts for those times when there's no way to not RTFM)

penguin-cute-2.jpg
We see you're new around here...

Also don't neglect some of the communities when you decide on a distro. Not all (e.g. ArchLinux) are newbie friendly. But many others (Mint, CrunchBang, etc.)
most certainly are. If you find yourself bunking in one of those camps, don't be a stranger. :Thmbsup:

1914
^Most excellent! Keep us posted. I'm very interested in how it works out for you. Luck! :Thmbsup:
1915
Should this thread be locked or trashed since the websites for downloading are no longer active?

@nickodemos - Try sending a PM to Mouser and mention links no longer work. :)
1916
Living Room / Happy Mother's Day!
« Last post by 40hz on May 11, 2014, 07:15 AM »
I just wanted to extend best wishes to those in our community who share the place of honor on this day.

Happy Mother's Day! :) :Thmbsup:
1917
If you're just getting back into the swing of things you might be better off to try installing to a bootable USB key - or just running off a live CD of debian - possibly with provisions made for persistence. VMs introduce a few oddball things to the mix that can trip you up and/or cause confusion if you're new to Linux.

AFAIK there are no official pre-built virtual images for Debian. If you want Wheezy, you'll need to do a regular install as a guest OS in VMWare last I heard,
1918
General Software Discussion / Re: 4 (Maybe more) Absolute top go-to programs
« Last post by 40hz on May 10, 2014, 10:14 PM »
Anyway, I've never found a good client option.  I hate Outlook.  i don't much like thunderbird. What else is there?  the other options seem to either be really old and unsupported or too new and overly simple.

I'll agree. I never found an e-mail client I've much cared for either. And I've tried at least a dozen (or more) over the years. Closest I ever came to one I respected was Eudora when it still used the mbox data structure. And that was ages ago.

Outlook is what it is. And unless it's wedded to an Exchange server back end, most of it's real usefulness is absent and it's just 10 lbs of 'stuff' crammed into a 5 lb. bag. With the advent of Office365, access to an Exchange server is now affordable and doable even for an individual. But Outlook is still more geared towards use by workgroups and organizations than it is for individuals because its collaborative features are really what it's all about rather than its being just an e-mail client/PIM.

Scary thing is, Outlook may be as good as it gets right now. (And I don't like Outlook at all.)

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General Software Discussion / Re: 4 (Maybe more) Absolute top go-to programs
« Last post by 40hz on May 10, 2014, 02:31 PM »
  • Website Watcher
  • TheBat
[/b]
  • VmWare
  • My own apps :)

I used to use TheBat ages ago. It was ok. But I never developed the degree of reverence some users seem to have for it. Has it since gotten that much better than all the other email clients out there? :huh:
1920
Mini-Reviews by Members / Re: Atom - A new editor is born
« Last post by 40hz on May 09, 2014, 07:11 PM »
"... After struggling to build Atom on windows, I've finally managed to make a redistributable package for it. Unfortunately there's no official release for Windows yet, so I had to take matters into my own hands ...":
http://blog.someguy1...-builds-for-windows/

275MB installed?!?  That seems like a lot... but I'm still trying it.

Lordy! The entire Puppy Linux live distro is only 162MBs in it's latest edition!  :tellme:
1921
Living Room / Re: Recommend some music videos to me!
« Last post by 40hz on May 09, 2014, 02:39 PM »
@tomos - Nice! Some older influences to be sure. And all the better for it I think. Refreshingly honest and real performance for a change. (No twerking dancers or other distractions either!)  :Thmbsup: :Thmbsup:
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Mini-Reviews by Members / Re: Atom - A new editor is born
« Last post by 40hz on May 09, 2014, 10:19 AM »
"... After struggling to build Atom on windows, I've finally managed to make a redistributable package for it. Unfortunately there's no official release for Windows yet, so I had to take matters into my own hands ...":
http://blog.someguy1...-builds-for-windows/


And for some of the people in the Linux camp, there's an unofficial ppa available for 64-bit only Ubu 12.04/13.10/14.04 and derivative distros (Mint, etc.) now available courtesy of "Andrew" over at Webupd8.org

Info and instructions can be found here.

FWIW, I installed it this way on Mint 16. It loaded-in without any problems, opened up quickly from the menu, and appears to be stable. . I'll have to give it a real tryout this weekend if I get some time.
 8)
1923
Very nice discount offer. Thx! :Thmbsup:
1924
I think it may be a good idea to remind ourselves that no legal action has been taken - or is even being contemplated - against Kickstarter itself by the Washington AG's office.

The AG's filing has only named the person(s) responsible for the Asylum playing card campaign in the complaint.

 :)
1925
Non-Windows Software / SpaceFM development (and developer) going on "hiatus"
« Last post by 40hz on May 08, 2014, 10:27 AM »
Recently posted: a somewhat unusual notice from the developer of the SpaceFM desktop manager...

IgnorantGuru’s Hiatus

I will be beginning a hiatus from my public projects shortly, which means those projects will be suspended indefinitely, including development on SpaceFM and udevil, updates to this blog, and other little works. Suspended means all motion will stop, but most sites I maintain should remain accessible and unchanged. The duration of this hiatus is undefined. This may morph into a retirement, or I may restart some of it eventually in OpenBSD or another platform, or I may simply return and resume work on some or all of the projects.

If you are using SpaceFM or udevil, etc. and want to continue using them, I suggest doing so. Some distros may drop them automatically once they are ‘unmaintained’, but there’s nothing to stop you from using them indefinitely, and these are well-debugged at this point. Eventually some breakage may occur (eg GTK3), but there are probably enough people using SpaceFM now that someone can offer a patch if needed. It’s very easy to make and share a fork on github. I will also be using them myself, so if something major breaks I may come out of hibernation (like an angry bear woken early from slumber!) with an update.

With regard to Linux, I plan on falling behind the systemd wave in Debian, avoiding it. I may eventually move toward Gentoo, or over to one of the BSDs as well. But in avoidance of systemd, I won’t be keeping up with the latest edge of Linux for awhile, which makes for a poor developer’s environment. You’re welcome to join me, in which case SpaceFM and udevil should keep working as they are, even without current maintenance. To give you an idea, in the past six months I’ve needed to fix only a handful of bugs, none of them critical. So this isn’t abandoning ship, it’s more like setting sail for real.

I have weighed this decision carefully, because I know a lot of people really like SpaceFM, and I like to give projects decent support, even if free. I tried to put it on a back burner, but the project has too much energy and mass now for that, and I feel like I’m leaving people in limbo. So I decided to be realistic based on the last few months, and simply put these projects into suspension. I do sometimes continue such things, as I did last year after being on hiatus for several months. So overall, I again suggest that if SpaceFM works well for you, there’s nothing to stop you from continuing to use it indefinitely, supporting it indirectly, or forking it for any purpose.

This blog is now closed to comments in order to eliminate spam being added. If you would like to be informed of any temporary or permanent returns from my hiatus, you can subscribe for email updates. My other sites will shortly show ‘suspended’ notices just to let people know the status of projects. Yet I’ll do my best to merely freeze everything and keep it available. I may leave the issue trackers open, so any bugs can be tracked, yet note that only I have write access to the Github repositories I own, as well as this blog. The wikis should remain available for additions.

Thanks for all the support and interest, and good luck navigating.

So it goes... :huh:
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