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Below are Cookie (Also known as Cookie Monster) and Misty (Also known as Misty Mayhem).  We got them I wanna say, 2 months ago?  They are very mischievous.

There's no way they will, with sites like Mininova, and Demonoid out there, it will be nearly impossible to charge for torrents.  If a big company with high funding, and bought all the torrent sites, then I think they could.  But no way, even with knocking the top of the pyramid off.


The other question to be answered is how are they going to vet all of the torrents (assuming they are going to keep it a torrent site)? Currently the website doesn't actually have any copies of the files available for download - are they really going to vet every single file that gets posted? If so are they going to be legally liable for any malware that is propogated via a commercial site - surely if they are a commercial entitiy they will have a duty of care to their customers?
-Carol Haynes (July 02, 2009, 03:50 PM)

Very very true.  Since people will pay for the downloads, the company is held liable for them to be clean.  I don't think the company who bought them out know what they are getting themselves into.

Im trying to understand how they can go legal.. Like, yeah maybe 2$ (Idk the actual price, but I'm just guessing) for an album is fine.  But if Adobe Photoshop (and other software) torrents exist, how can it be worth the companies time?  Why would Adobe want the small small cut of what TPB gets preferred to the large cut (pure profit) they get from their sale?

John, I never implied stealing was okay.  Especially stealing for ones own gain.  Not everything on a torrent site is illegal, you can find legal things as well.  TV shows, not sure if they are legal? Ubuntu, little things like that.

I respect your opinion and you raise a valid argument.  I mean absolutely no dis respect towards you at all.  I thank you for your intellectual opinions, I wholeheartedly do.

Ehtyar very well said.  I hope you don't mean I am hijacking the thread. I'm just putting in my opinion to what has been said.

No, but why should people be charged for wanting to learn? There are plenty of people who sit on their asses their entire life and never intend to learn a thing.  So why should someone who wants to learn be charged $189.00 for an educational photoshop? Why can't they make it an option to where you can learn, yet can't save the image as a .jpg, or .png?  I mean.. Little things like this would really help the world out.

Once again, Wraith, and Josh : I mean no dis respect to you at all.  For the most part I believe pirating software is wrong.  Yes, I do download music every now and again.  But lately its been acapellas and instrumentals to try to mess around and make little mixes here and there.

Haha I made a design with the letters hanging on a wire, my oh my, it looked horrible.

Yes I understand this, but the best free alternative, is gimp, which can't hold a candle to photoshop..

That's still ridiculous.. 189.00 For photo editing software.. I just can't justify outrageous prices..

So Wraith are you saying every single music file on your computer that is being sold, you paid for? 

But no, in general, I believe if you don't like the product on offer, don't buy it. Downloading it for free just because you don't like the way the industry works doesn't make it more noble or lawful.

Some people are less fortunate, and can't afford all the high end software, and end up being very very talented.  There are 14 and 15 year olds that are designing amazing CG work, and going on to be successful artists, who eventually pay for the program they once pirated.  I believe, and can honestly think I see no harm in it, if say someone downloads Adobe Photoshop Cs4 to better their skills.  I'm not saying it's okay for them to go and get rich off the product.  But at the same time, why should we say how bad downloading a usually expensive program for free to simply learn a new trade is a bad thing?  In a world where education is at an all time low, I honestly think that helps.  Charging someone 3000 dollars for 3DS max is like charging a student to use a book its ridiculous.  Why should they have to pay to learn?  Growing up I've been preached too about how important education is, yet why should I have to pay ridiculous amounts of money to get that education?  Tuition fees in college are ridiculous.  It's the same with the new age development tools.   I'm done with my rant.. I've said what I think needed to be said.

Johnk, I'm not trying to guide any disrespect your way, I understand what you mean.  I respect your beliefs, but at the same time I think I have a valid argument.

I've always supported TPB, I'm a strong believer of donation-ware.  I believe if someone wants to pay for software they should be given a choice.  When I see a piece of software I really like and can see as useful, I hate clicking on it to find out it is $89.99.  There is no way in hell I'm gonna come up with $89.99 with the economy the way it is.  But say the programmer says "If you like this program please donate", and I love the program.  The next time I get some donationcredits or extra cash I'll donate.  I believe freedom of choice is something this country, and other democratic countries were found on. 

Some of you might say, you have freedom of choice, if your too cheap to fork out $89.99, go for the freeware.  Problem with freeware is its not always quality.  Most oftenly it isn't, no offense to any freeware programmers. I see freeware every day that makes me think "That's free! Wow they could make a fortune with this", In example the programs on donationcoder.  I never said I supported pirated software, but at the same time, I support freedom of choice, and that is what TPB was about.

What if the F and W were converted to hollow fonts that I applied a metal colored gradient too?

From TPB blog:
I hope everybody will help out in that and realize that this is the best option for all. Don't worry - be happy!

Works for me! That's exactly what we told our cat just before we took him to the vet for a certain 'minor surgical procedure.'  :P

Well put :D

I hope everybody will help out in that and realize that this is the best option for all. Don't worry - We're just gonna chop your nuts off and make you pay for the same shit you got for free a few months ago! But really don't worry, it only stings a little! Hell we got our's cut off right before we decided to sell the company!

From TPB blog:
Idealism is not dead: The profits from the sale will go into a foundation that is going to help with projects about freedom of speech, freedom of information and the openess of the nets. I hope everybody will help out in that and realize that this is the best option for all. Don't worry - be happy!

But sadly, I have a feeling TPB will lost most of their users.  Its inevitable, TPB was an amazing site, but it wasn't one of a kind.  With sites like demonoid and mininova people will just make the transition.  Paying for content from TPB would be like buying a pound of apples at the market when you could walk down the road, and pick the apples from a tree, that are of the same quality.  I would love to see TPB thrive.. But at the same time, I don't wish to see Global Gaming Factory X thrive.  TPB was started for the people, Global Gaming Factory X just wants the money out of the deal..

Ehtyar, very, very well said.

I second your motion.


Another scary thought, Nahuel (scancode) told me this earlier
The BitTorrent meltdown will not happen. The Pirate Bay is tracking about half of the world’s torrent files, meaning that the site’s tracker servers facilitate the downloads of these files by letting users know who is sharing which bits and pieces. Researchers rang the alarm bells a few months back that shutting down the site’s tracker servers would severely impact sites like Mininova that make use of the Pirate Bay’s infrastructure.

Hahah 4wd :P

Living Room / Re: Where did your DC user I.D come from?
« on: June 30, 2009, 11:44 PM »
I'll give my go on the fictional story..

It all started back in the day.. During 'Nam.  I was an elite soldier, one of the best.  But the Vietnamese just seemed better.  There was no way in hell I'd survive with how good these guys were.  I came up with a plan, lets call it "Bad ass plan #1 (Bad ass plan #2 and #3 were made too, but lets say, they sucked)  Well back to bad ass plan #1, my plan was to put on a wig and make up, and pretend I was a girl.  I would sneak into those bastards bunkers and woo them with my good lucks and long beautiful blonde hair. When I got them all lured I dropped a grenade and ran like hell.  Like I said, its a bad ass plan!  Day 7 - I began my plan, one of those bastards tried to kiss me! I dropped the grenade and ran like hell and it worked! Their bunker went up in flames! It was amazing.  Through out the war I continued this plan.  It continued to work and out came the name "Loki". Due to the fact I changed my gender, deceived them, and ran like a coward.   I must have killed millions!  The 15, well that comes from how many I killed! Yeah I was a little surprised to realize I only killed 15.. :(.  Most of the time they ran like cowards too and survived!  I later became know as "Loki the dumb ass" but what the hell kind of name is that?!  But that is my story of how I became Loki15.  Now you all have heard my story.  I hope you appreciated reading this!

I can't say I did too well, but I lack an imagination :(

Living Room / Torrent Giant, The Pirate Bay sold, will go legal
« on: June 30, 2009, 10:23 PM »

Today is a sad day, for me at least.  Anyone familiar with torrents should know about The Pirate Bay.  It was in my opinion, the only torrent site worth a damn I could find.  According to news reports, TPB has been sold to the software company Global Gaming Factory X.  I believe the term "to go legal" means they will charge for downloads...

“We would like to introduce models which entail that content providers and copyright owners get paid for content that is downloaded via the site,” said Hans Pandeya, CEO GGF.
Content creators and providers need to control their content and get paid for it. File sharers’ need faster downloads and better quality

In other words, we pay for what we download.  We also pay for high quality downloads, which we found at TPB for FREE.  I understand their reasoning to an extent, but I never saw the day TPB would sell out.. It's truly a sad, sad day.

My first attempt, can't say I like it too much.. You tell me what you think. Ham's is better XP

The text laying over the right side of the image is just a watermark and the grey things on the orange pieces are like buttons? Just kinda doodling, per say.

Living Room / Re: Where did your DC user I.D come from?
« on: June 30, 2009, 05:34 PM »
I should go about a name change :P

Living Room / Re: Where did your DC user I.D come from?
« on: June 29, 2009, 10:59 PM »
So my role on DC is to be blamed for anything bad that happens? Hmm I knew I had a meaning in life :P

I'll work on a quick prototype for you. :)

Living Room / Re: Where did your DC user I.D come from?
« on: June 29, 2009, 09:46 PM »
Mine comes from a old mythology god, I was once upon a time told he was a badass god, turns out he was a shape shifting, gender changing god.  Basically an it among the gods :P, I realized I should haveve really done research before choosing the name.  The 15 was always one of my favorite numbers.

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