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General Software Discussion / Re: Video Editors
« on: March 11, 2014, 11:46 PM »
I've only got 11 Hi8 and two DV tapes to worry about - not sure I need that much overkill.

It's a good use for those old IDE HDDs lying around providing you have a computer that still has an IDE port and don't put it on the same port as a ODD or the OS HDD.

I've got a much better use for them - I remove the NIB magnets and let the kids play with them. Takes up far less space than a clutch of old drives.

Old drives tend to be space challenged and a single modern removable drive usually replaces three or four of them

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General Software Discussion / Re: Video Editors
« on: March 11, 2014, 07:33 AM »
Checking the software again, I can see that I can't control the rate at which the stream is either captured or written to disk. It's the edited save compression post-capture that I can define and, as I won't be using ShowBiz for any of the post processing - that's purely academic.
Once I know what my source quality is, I can control the format and compression through Power Director.
When I experimented with capture straight to a USB stick earlier, the dropout rate was awful, so I imagine the throughput to a pluggable hard drive will be just as dire. Only got USB2 on the XP but obviously, I can simply capture to the XP's HDD and then transfer to the pluggable 1TB drive. When I move it to the 8.1 machine, hopefully the OS error correction protocols should ensure a smooth transfer and I can take advantage of the USB3's superior throughput. With 1.6TB free on this box, I think I may just be able to cope.
One of the joys of transferring on the XP in the cellar is that I can set a timer and then come back up here and stay in touch with the rest of the world pro tem.

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General Software Discussion / Re: Video Editors
« on: March 11, 2014, 04:04 AM »
I guess I'm now going back to the cellar to re-encode all the tapes to files at maximum possible resolution and transfer them to a pluggable Drive without the 4GiB file size limit and then bring them back to this machine and spend some happy retirement time creating something Cecil B.Demille would chunder upon ;D.
Another quick question:
The EZCAP device and/or ShowBiz permit three levels of MPEG2 "quality" if I try all three variants, how can I tell if the higher resolutions are simply extrapolated?

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General Software Discussion / Re: Video Editors
« on: March 11, 2014, 03:50 AM »


As long as I'm allowed the same, spout BS that is :)

If you feel the need - be my guest ;)

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General Software Discussion / Re: Video Editors
« on: March 11, 2014, 01:06 AM »
I think it's time to go back a little.

Originally;-

I captured the stream with EZCAP and Showbiz written to MPEG2.
I then used Audacity to capture the audio and Power Sound Editor to twin the single STEREO track into two MONO tracks.
I then used POWER Director 10 to clip out the original audio and insert the twin track MONO - simply to balance the sound distribution. Saved as MPEG4.
I now propose to use PD10 to cut it into scenes and remove the dross.

Is the resultant file likely to have suffered significant loss in the process?

Should I now see if PD10 can actually capture the primary stream from the EZCAP (or an appropriate DVD recorder) and hopefully (remembering that ShowBiz slugged the AAC CODEC), correctly handle the MONO audio?

In this manner I can probably undertake "one" project to capture, correct the audio if required, cut the dross and save the final file. Only one file from capture to final cut - hopefully with minimal potential for conversion losses.

I have to say that the output from the EZCAP, even after all my "editing", appears to match that from the CAMCORDER when the source tapes are simply played back through a compatible TV, so I don't think I need to worry too much about superior transfer capabilities as I only have what I've already got as a source tape.

Qualifier - Serious Amateur Status, with the divine right to spout bulls**t and sufficient time available to simply re-capture from the original tapes, and follow the experts' advice :)

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General Software Discussion / Re: Video Editors
« on: March 11, 2014, 12:33 AM »
That EU silliness isn't confined to recorders, any recordable material - Tapes, DVDs CDs USB sticks and after-market HDDs all carry a duty. The motivation being - if you can record you will undoubtedly record copyright material, so they collect the reproduction rights up-front and distribute to the various copyright protection agencies. They're talking about slapping the duties on smart-phones too! That's why it's not illegal to access streamed copyright material here - we've already paid the fees!

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General Software Discussion / Re: Video Editors
« on: March 11, 2014, 12:23 AM »
Hopefully your recorder is of the newer and far superior DVD+VR type rather than the older and nearly useless DVD-VR. It almost certainly is the newer variety unless it requires DVD-RAM media which IIRC is a requirement for DVD-VR.
No such luck RAM, -RW & -R............Saves having to put the cable back on

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General Software Discussion / Re: Video Editors
« on: March 10, 2014, 12:23 PM »
Your best bet is probably to focus on finding a more general purpose editor that has such a feature (most of them do) and figuring out whether it can be tuned to do what you want.

The general feature you're looking for is typically called scene detection........

I should have paid more attention to your first post on the topic and thoroughly investigated what I already had.
But I've now got the bug, so I can't wait to play with pipelining the Camcorder through the DVD and seeing what happens.
Clearly, more time on my hands than the sense to do something leisurely with it.

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General Software Discussion / Re: Video Editors
« on: March 10, 2014, 12:12 PM »
Actually, I think I've got another one in the attic with a similar spec.
Unfortunately, something went wrong on the recording side so disks were rarely readable once recording sessions were closed.
I intended to turn the lasers into light-pens but never got around to it.

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General Software Discussion / Re: Video Editors
« on: March 10, 2014, 12:09 PM »
Well, would you believe it, I've just reclaimed an old DVD recorder that I was about to put into the local Waste Collector's Bin.
Digital audio out via optical and coaxial
Analogue audio out via stero RCA
Video out via RCA and s-video
Scart in & out
AV3 in via RCA and s-video
I also cut the power lead off but that's just a five minute job to reinstall :-)
Am I likely to get somewhere with that little lot?

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General Software Discussion / Re: Video Editors
« on: March 10, 2014, 08:23 AM »
Well chaps, you're gonna find this hard to believe.
It seems one of the packages that came bundled with this computer - Power Director 10 by Cyberlink - has an automatic function for precisely what I need.
All I had to do was right click the source file within PD10 and one of the features in the context sensitive menu is "Scene Detection".
It simply scans the entire file, tags all the probable scene changes and allows you to further edit, retain or delete the clips.
That simple.

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General Software Discussion / Re: Video Editors
« on: March 10, 2014, 07:16 AM »
Just tried VirtualVCR. Seem to be having some problems with the interface as well as Audio Sync. I also experimented by trying to capture direct to a USB stick but that results in far too many dropped frames! Will probably try capturing to a real USB hard disk to see if that's fast enough - unless either of you can already advise that would be a complete waste of time.
When changing VVCR's settings, it doesn't always seem to save them to the "default" settings, and when they are forced out to a profile, they don't all seem to save as I defined them.
It seems that each tab must be saved as soon as it is modified, otherwise any subsequent changes to other tabs causes those not yet saved to revert to their original state. Weird, confusing and frustrating, especially when you discover that you've just spent ten minutes running as fast as you can - and you're back where you started.
Audio only syncs when I can force the preview monitor into 720x576 but again, sometimes it seems I only thought I'd changed the resolution, so the audio is still not synced. (It won't allow that resolution for PAL_B but it will for PAL_G and NTSC so I have to select and save one or the other and then change it to PAL_B, where the resolution should be 640x480 but "sticks" on the other formats' 720x576. Does that description of the problem make any sense or is my definition just too confusing?
Even when I actually get an audio synced file, the image seems to be composed of visible lines and loads of jaggies on any curved or moving edges - just like an old 405 line TV - yes, I am that old!
I suspect I still need some tweeking of the settings, but it's difficult to be sure precisely what I have been able to change, when the parameters don't seem to be stable between experimental captures. I have completely removed and re-installed VVCR as well, in case I had a suspect installation but all the issues mentioned above remain.
For the record, here are the MediaInfo stats for a file saved direct to the USB stick and the virtually identical clip saved directly to the hard drive. Not sure if these will help resolve the issue of audio syncing vs resolution but they certainly do indicate how much gets lost trying to save to a USB stick.
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General
Complete name                            : C:\Users\Colin\Videos\VVCRfiles\capture (2014-03-10 at 08-59-03).avi
Format                                   : AVI
Format/Info                              : Audio Video Interleave
File size                                : 606 MiB
Duration                                 : 1mn 7s
Overall bit rate                         : 75.9 Mbps

Video
ID                                       : 0
Format                                   : YUV
Codec ID                                 : YUY2
Codec ID/Info                            : YUV 4:2:2 as for UYVY but with different component ordering within the u_int32 macropixel
Duration                                 : 1mn 5s
Bit rate                                 : 75.7 Mbps
Width                                    : 720 pixels
Height                                   : 576 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 5:4
Frame rate                               : 25.000 fps
Standard                                 : PAL
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:2
Compression mode                         : Lossless
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 7.300
Stream size                              : 594 MiB (98%)

Audio
ID                                       : 1
Format                                   : PCM
Format settings, Endianness              : Little
Format settings, Sign                    : Signed
Codec ID                                 : 1
Duration                                 : 1mn 7s
Bit rate mode                            : Constant
Bit rate                                 : 1 411.2 Kbps
Channel(s)                               : 2 channels
Sampling rate                            : 44.1 KHz
Bit depth                                : 16 bits
Stream size                              : 11.3 MiB (2%)
Alignment                                : Aligned on interleaves
Interleave, duration                     : 246 ms (6.14 video frames)



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General
Complete name                            : C:\Users\Colin\Videos\VVCRfiles\capture (2014-03-10 at 09-01-25).avi
Format                                   : AVI
Format/Info                              : Audio Video Interleave
Format profile                           : OpenDML
File size                                : 1.20 GiB
Duration                                 : 1mn 2s
Overall bit rate                         : 167 Mbps

Video
ID                                       : 0
Format                                   : YUV
Codec ID                                 : YUY2
Codec ID/Info                            : YUV 4:2:2 as for UYVY but with different component ordering within the u_int32 macropixel
Duration                                 : 1mn 1s
Bit rate                                 : 166 Mbps
Width                                    : 720 pixels
Height                                   : 576 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 5:4
Frame rate                               : 25.000 fps
Standard                                 : PAL
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:2
Compression mode                         : Lossless
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 16.000
Stream size                              : 1.19 GiB (99%)

Audio
ID                                       : 1
Format                                   : PCM
Format settings, Endianness              : Little
Format settings, Sign                    : Signed
Codec ID                                 : 1
Duration                                 : 1mn 2s
Bit rate mode                            : Constant
Bit rate                                 : 1 411.2 Kbps
Channel(s)                               : 2 channels
Sampling rate                            : 44.1 KHz
Bit depth                                : 16 bits
Stream size                              : 10.4 MiB (1%)
Alignment                                : Aligned on interleaves
Interleave, duration                     : 249 ms (6.23 video frames)






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General Software Discussion / Re: Video Editors
« on: March 10, 2014, 02:32 AM »
My apologies to both of you. I hadn't noticed the change of roles and thought I was still talking to Vurbal about the current capture facilities and 4wd about the scope for the Sony HandyCam :-[.
BTW Vurbal, I have noticed your aversion to, Sony ---- Their appalling treatment of GEOHOT and the independent developer community in general?

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General Software Discussion / Re: Video Editors
« on: March 09, 2014, 07:40 AM »
Now tried one of the files with VLC on the faster machine and audio is about 7 seconds out of sync, although the video doesn't now seem to be a slow internet stream.

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General Software Discussion / Re: Video Editors
« on: March 09, 2014, 07:23 AM »
Hi Vurbal:
I've installed and tried VirtualVCR on the XP box - seems fairly frustration free.
I have a couple of observations:-
Video format properties did indeed default to the NTSC version you intimated but I noticed your own example was showing PAL and being in Europe I originally thought I would need to set PAL as well. I did however leave it at the default NTSC and it seemed to work fine - confused!
When I tried to adjust the audio volume input level it refused any changes from the default -99db, although after I eventually reset the audio channels to mono I did seem to get the correct amount of audio from both speakers. Not an issue, just wondered why it wouldn't let me change it!
I also observed that the Default Video Frame setting was 320x240 as you can see from the image below

But, the preview monitor showed 640x480 which I believe is probably the source definition. Again, playback through VLC and just about everything else I've tried seems to be the correct ratio so it's probably not a problem - just more confusion. Yeah, you're right ...I seem to be easily confused.

I've attached below, the statistics produced by both VVCR and MediaInfo. If you could give them a quick look and verify they're what's to be expected it would be greatly appreciated.
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Capture Stats
Frames Captured: 1296
Frames Dropped1: 6
Frames Dropped2: 0
Time : 00:00:52
Time Left: 01:32:49
Free Space: 85,197,041,664
Video Bytes: 795,648,000
Audio Bytes: 4,586,400
Total Bytes: 800,234,400
Video Bytes Sec: 15,209,374
Audio Bytes Sec: 87,672
Total Bytes Sec: 15,297,046
Video Compression: 1.001
Video Rate: 25.195656
Audio Rate: 44108.632918
AV Diff: 0.007630
AV Adjust: 0.000000
AV Actual: 0.000000

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General
Complete name                            : C:\Users\Colin\Desktop\VVCRCapture\capture (2014-03-09 at 12-11-55).avi
Format                                   : AVI
Format/Info                              : Audio Video Interleave
File size                                : 768 MiB
Duration                                 : 52s 0ms
Overall bit rate                         : 124 Mbps

Video
ID                                       : 0
Format                                   : YUV
Codec ID                                 : YUY2
Codec ID/Info                            : YUV 4:2:2 as for UYVY but with different component ordering within the u_int32 macropixel
Duration                                 : 43s 210ms
Bit rate                                 : 147 Mbps
Width                                    : 640 pixels
Height                                   : 480 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 4:3
Frame rate                               : 29.970 fps
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:2
Compression mode                         : Lossless
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 16.000
Stream size                              : 759 MiB (99%)

Audio
ID                                       : 1
Format                                   : PCM
Format settings, Endianness              : Little
Format settings, Sign                    : Signed
Codec ID                                 : 1
Duration                                 : 52s 0ms
Bit rate mode                            : Constant
Bit rate                                 : 1 411.2 Kbps
Channel(s)                               : 2 channels
Sampling rate                            : 44.1 KHz
Bit depth                                : 16 bits
Stream size                              : 8.75 MiB (1%)
Alignment                                : Aligned on interleaves
Interleave, duration                     : 208 ms (6.23 video frames)



Now I've got the potential to produce some truly massive unadulterated files, presumably all I need to do is any final editing and then save them out in an acceptable compressed format.

I did observe that both VLC Media Player and the editing monitor with Showbiz seemed to be reproducing as though it were a slow stream over the internet. Could that be because the x86 processor was struggling with the shear volume of data throughput or is it indicative of other issues. I've yet to try the same files and functions on this machine as I rather wanted to get my observations organised first. Will be assessing that as soon as I post this and will update as appropriate.

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General Software Discussion / Re: Video Editors
« on: March 09, 2014, 04:14 AM »
On the old XP box I do have firewire but not on this 8.1 machine. However, I do have five spare slots so taking the board from the old box and re-installing it here probably won't cause too much heartache.

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General Software Discussion / Re: Video Editors
« on: March 09, 2014, 04:00 AM »
The spec included in the earlier post and three pictures are all that was attached to the listing. The pictures definitely show it as Hi8 compatible but as mentioned, the AV outputs didn't specifically mention Firewire. I also suspect the specification sheet is generated by Amazon. I'm keeping a very low profile on the announcement because so far, it has attracted zero interest and I'd sooner risk less than $A20 on the current asking price than create more demand.  8)

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General Software Discussion / Re: Video Editors
« on: March 09, 2014, 01:34 AM »
What country are you in?
Sweden, so PAL should work nicely and the Ebay offer states "all cables and accessories included" crikey it's even got a nice after market carry case.

I suspect somebody is clearing out a deceased estate - or garage - and this is just "one of those old fashioned clunky cameras"

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General Software Discussion / Re: Video Editors
« on: March 09, 2014, 01:03 AM »
Vurbal: My 90minute tapes are going to produce more file than the drive space on my xp machine (x32 with a dual  core 3.2ghz processor). I can plug in a USB 1TB transcend drive (would USB be fast enough?) or simply transfer the project to the bigger machine where I've got 1.7TB of free space and the pluggable potential. I'm also assuming that once the files are encoded into the final format they take a little less space.
It is quite convenient to utilise the XP for projects like this but whilst I'm biting bullets..........

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General Software Discussion / Re: Video Editors
« on: March 09, 2014, 12:33 AM »
4wd: Have found a Sony DCR TRV-355 which seems to have AV interface component video and s.video - not sure if it's one of these that's supposed to connect to firewire.
specs attached - does that seem to fit the bill?

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    Part Number:DCR-TRV355

General

    Packaged Quantity 1.0
    Product Type Camcorder
    Localization English
    Digital Zoom 700.0 x
    Camcorder Media Type Digital8
    Optical Sensor Size 1/6"
    Optical Sensor Type CCD
    Min Illumination 0.0 lux
    Analog video format PAL
    Digital Video Format MPEG EX
    Special Effects Mosaic,
    Chroma Key,
    Old Movie,
    Solarization,
    Slim,
    Sepia,
    Trail,
    Flash Motion,
    Still,
    Luminance Key,
    Stretch,
    Monotone,
    Low Shutter Speed (LSS),
    Negative Art,
    Pastel
    Image Stabilizer Electronic (Super Steady Shot)
    Digital Scene Transition Bounce fader,
    Mosaic fader,
    Overlap fader,
    Random,
    Monotone fader,
    Black fader,
    Window wipe
    Min Shutter Speed 0.33333334 sec
    Max Shutter Speed 0.00025 sec
    Shooting modes Digital photo mode
    Shooting Programs Sunset & moon,
    Beach & ski,
    Portrait mode,
    Landscape,
    Sports mode,
    Spotlight
    White Balance Automatic
    Exposure Modes Automatic,
    Program
    Camera Flash None
    Image Recording Format JPEG
    Webcam capability Yes
    AV Interfaces Component video,
    S-Video

Lens System

    Type 20.0 x x Zoom lens - 2.5 mm - 50.0 mm - F/1.6-2.4
    Lens aperture F/1.6-2.4
    Optical Zoom 20.0 x
    Lens system type Zoom lens
    Min focal length 2.5 mm
    Max focal length 50.0 mm
    Auto Focus TTL contrast detection
    Filter Size 37.0 mm
    Focal Length Equivalent to 35mm Camera -855.0 mm
    Focus Adjustment Automatic,
    Manual
    Zoom Adjustment Motorized drive

Additional Features

    Built-in Light Yes
    Low Lux / Night Mode Yes
    DV input Yes
    Additional Features Backlight compensation,
    Built-in speaker,
    Digital noise reduction
    Software Drivers & Utilities,
    PIXELA Image Mixer
    Included Accessories Power adapter,
    Camcorder shoulder strap,
    Audio / video cable,
    IR remote control,
    SCART adapter,
    Lens cap,
    USB cable

Viewfinder

    Viewfinder Type LCD
    Viewfinder Diagonal Size 0.44 in
    Viewfinder Resolution 113000.0 pixels

Display

    Type 2.5 in LCD display

Connections

    Connector Type 1.0 x DC power input,
    1.0 x IEEE 1394 (FireWire/i.LINK),
    1.0 x Control-L (LANC),
    1.0 x S-Video input / output,
    1.0 x Microphone,
    1.0 x USB,
    1.0 x Composite video/audio (input/output)

Memory / Storage

    Media type Digital8
    Memory Card Slot Memory Stick card
    Image Storage Standard JPEG 640 x 480 : 40.0 VA - With 8MB card,
    Super-fine JPEG 640 x 480 : 122.0 VA - With 8MB card,
    Fine JPEG 640 x 480 : 81.0 VA - With 8MB card
    Video Capture MPEG - 160 x 112,
    MPEG - 320 x 240
    Video Recording Modes SP,
    LP

Battery

    Supported Battery 1.0 x Li-ion rechargeable battery - 700.0 mAh ( Included )

Audio Input

    Audio input type Microphone
    Microphone type Built-in
    Microphone Operation Mode Stereo
    Microphone technology Electret condenser

Manufacturer Warranty

    Service & Support 1 year warranty
    Service & Support Details Limited warranty - 1 year

Power

    Mfr estimated battery life 105.0 min

Viewfinder / Display

    Display Features Rotating
    Viewfinder Color Support Black & white

Physical Characteristics

    Width 3.5 in
    Depth 7.8 in
    Height 4.0 in
    Weight 1.8 lbs



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General Software Discussion / Re: Video Editors
« on: March 08, 2014, 09:55 AM »
4wd: I see, I'm now trying to beg, borrow or steal a Sony  8)

Vurbal: I guess you weren't kidding when you promised me the potential of frustration.

VirtualDub was unpacked on the 32bit XP machine and then placed in the c:\Program folder and run from an Admin account.

Everything was connected via EZCAP and VD found the device. In Capture mode, VD displayed the Camera's entry Screen with Date/time display.

Activating play on the Camcorder gave me a functioning playback in VD and sound from the external speakers.

I named the target location for saved files and then started playback on the Camcorder, I selected "test video capture" but VD's display blanked. I had noticed a parameter to suppress the monitor and suspected this was the cause. I didn't bother to change anything but simply stopped the "test" and then proceeded with a live capture. Again the monitor was blank but I could hear the soundrack so I simply continued for a few seconds and then "stopped" the capture.

When I tried to open the file in VD the target directory was displayed but explorer crashed.

Error Signature:  AppName: explorer.exe  AppVer: 6.0.2900.5512  ModName: shmedia.dll ModVer: 6.0.2900.5512 Offset: 0000ac54

The detailed error report can't  be cut and pasted and because I chose the option not to send the report to MS the anticipated detailed log file (C:\DOCUME~1\THEFAT~1\LOKALA~1\Temp\c002_appcompat.txt) was never created, or at least, I was never able to find it :-(.

I bit the bullet and tried to do it again, this time to try to capture the log file before saying no or by saying yes to transmit. I now can't see the camcorder output. If I stop playback then a single frame is displayed which seems to be the first frame on the tape. This is a "ghost" from previous attempts because if I access the settings menu it clears and if I restart VD, it resets to the current Camcorder status screen. Any attempt to capture the output in either test or genuine mode simply results in a capture error poppup and the message "unable to start video capture".

Two attempts to capture were made and two small files created. Both files could be opened with VD but were empty. Heres the Media info on one of those files just in case it's significant.

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General
Complete name                            : C:\Users\Colin\Downloads\VDtest2.avi
Format                                   : AVI
Format/Info                              : Audio Video Interleave
File size                                : 10.0 KiB

Video
ID                                       : 0
Format                                   : YUV
Codec ID                                 : YUY2
Codec ID/Info                            : YUV 4:2:2 as for UYVY but with different component ordering within the u_int32 macropixel
Width                                    : 720 pixels
Height                                   : 480 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 3:2
Frame rate                               : 29.970 fps
Standard                                 : NTSC
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:2
Compression mode                         : Lossless

Audio
ID                                       : 1
Format                                   : PCM
Format settings, Endianness              : Little
Format settings, Sign                    : Signed
Codec ID                                 : 1
Bit rate mode                            : Constant
Bit rate                                 : 3 072 Kbps
Channel(s)                               : 2 channels
Sampling rate                            : 96.0 KHz
Bit depth                                : 16 bits
Alignment                                : Aligned on interleaves



I now can't re-create the first error conditions because of the "new" capture error status so I simply can't provide a representative windows crash log file.

Is there a VD log/crash file that I can inspect?

As soon as the explorer  error condition is acknowledged then Explorer (not the machine) re-boots. If I then try to use the Start Menu to get to the file location it still crashes immediately the location is accessed. However, if I take the route through Computer\C:\Docs and Settings\etc I can at least "open" the appropriate folder but as soon as I attempt to even right click the supposed video file then Explorer crashes. I do briefly get the right click context menu. I can access other files/folders in that directory but not the offending video clip - even mouse-over causes a crash.

I was able to remove the file only by capturing it in a marquee and then deleting it AND I EMPTIED THE WASTE BIN AND REBOOTED FOR GOOD MEASURE so, NO, I can't provide any kind of header or any other information from that particular menace!

For the record, a subsequent capture test utilising Showbiz successfully completed, so, if there are any common .dlls or CODECS they remain in functioning condition.

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General Software Discussion / Re: Video Editors
« on: March 07, 2014, 05:17 AM »
4wd: Unfortunately, my camcorder is analogue and I don't have a TV card, thanks for your input anyway :Thmbsup:

Vurbal: New conundrum. Originally I captured on and old XP x32 and moved the files to my x64 Win8.1 box. When I thought I was finished I packed camcorder and tapes and filed them in the attic. If I'm going to start all over again would you recommend I:-
continue capture on the XP with a 32 bit version of VirtualDub
capture on the Win 8.1 utilising 32 bit VirtualDub
capture on the Win 8.1 with a 64bit version of VirtualDub
I understand from their site that the x32 version supports more CODECS than the x64
How did life ever get so complicated?

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General Software Discussion / Re: Video Editors
« on: March 06, 2014, 01:21 PM »
Are there other labels associated with the spoiler?
Where do I go to learn a little more about this environment?

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General Software Discussion / Re: Video Editors
« on: March 06, 2014, 01:16 PM »
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Just practicing - in case I somehow manage to post it!


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General Software Discussion / Re: Video Editors
« on: March 06, 2014, 01:08 PM »
Vurbal, what did I do to deserve such help?
Can't say I disagree with your views on their integrity, I attempted to contact them four times and each time they asked me for my order ref "so they could verify which version I had" and never came back again. ArcSoft go one stage further and tell me that as I'm using bundled software I can "go pester the hardware supplier!" I may have been misleading about the audio quality. The EZCAP successfully downloaded from my set top box and produced decent stereo using ShowBiz 3.5, it was only when I ran into the "copy protection" problem with the camcorder and had to use 5.x with its slugged AAC CODEC that I encountered the audio problem.
All that's bye the bye though - It's my intention to get a copy of VirtualDub and then hopefully I can set it up and do the whole project all over again. Perhaps I can pick your brains when I set-up and get the optimum configuration and resolutions for any other wrinkles I create.

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