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so HOSTNAME:PORT
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Perhaps even have an option to configure how often (since symantec posts multiple updates per day).
Hi, Yes mouser,you're right.
and to Josh:I appreciate your conciliatory answer.
There was nothing in my original post to indicate an attack on your views.Quite the contrary.Just re-read it.
It's all in interpretation.
Granted,my experience has been with non Corporate- or Enterprise
editions of Symantec.
Even so,if my- or anyone elses experience has been that the software
is bloated or is a memory or CPU hog,they should be able to express that.This in no way indicates a personal attack on somebody's views.
Like I said:"Just another point of view".
We are all users of software.I don't see my role as a defender of a certain piece of software.
I'm not an employee of those companies and even if I were,I would not defend anything that is not quite right.
As to questioning your ability to check memory:It was certainly not meant that way,but it is easily overlooked how many processes or services are involved in the running of certain software.
Well that's it for now
Pete.-4vrqrisPt (May 21, 2006, 02:05 PM)
To Josh,
I will stop this right here.I will not dignify this with any more
reponses to your post.
Your arrogant and abrasive repose is totally uncalled for.
I'm sorry I misjudged you character.I thought you were a better person than that.
Pete.-4vrqrisPt (May 21, 2006, 12:57 PM)
Let the debates continue!
To Josh,
Thanks for your excellent post.
Overall I agree with you.However,there are a few things I'd like to mention:The problem with bloat is one that will never be solved. As corporations grow, they continue to add to their software, features that their customers request. So, what might seem like bloat to you, is a great feature to another. This isn't just resorting to antivirus programs, but to all software. People call MS Office bloated, but you know, half of those features would not exist were it not for someone requesting them.There is a solution to bloat:It's all in the way the programs are coded.As an example take the Mozilla Project.Lets say Firefox or Thunderbird.These are modular.(With plugins or add-ons)
You only add what you want.This leaves the choice of features totally
up to the user,rather than having a huge Program,where half or
more are features that you don't use.
You mention MS Office.For most people it is bloated.
However,when you take the modular approach,eg you would have a central control panel where you could add or remove the features as desired.With the proper coding,you would not have to reboot or even restart the program after you make a change.A simple refresh should do it.
But no,because of their proprietary nature,these developers.from MS
and others,won't change their ways.It's a mindset,nothing else or call it shortsightedness.
As to Symantec,same story.
You say that their Anti-Virus uses only 30MB of ram.Have you really added up all the processes and services that are needed to run this?I think you'll come out with more than 30MB.
Besides that,you're right,it's not the Memory usage as it is CPU usage that is important.
Anyway,with 256 MB of RAM,you can't be running any games or graphics
applications.You"ll soon be stalling(freezing) the whole works.
But in general your comments are well taken.Thanks.
Just another point of view,
Pete.-4vrqrisPt (May 21, 2006, 12:28 PM)
I do think some packages are getting too big and want to combine too many features. I prefer to have one antivirus (or rather, anti-malware) package, another for firewall. And I don't want any of the solutions to be a complete sandboxing system with hooks in every aspect of the OS. Do one job (or a few) and do them relatively well, and keep the bloat down. Thanks-f0dder (May 21, 2006, 11:02 AM)
heh, these just keep on comming, don't they?
patch that fixes it : don't use IE-Gothi[c] (April 26, 2006, 12:37 AM)