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N.A.N.Y. 2009 / Re: NANY 2009 Release: Trout

« on: January 08, 2009, 01:39 AM »

Thanks for the logs, nogojoe.  Please install build 77 and see if that fixes the issue for you.

v1.0.1 build 77
    * Changed the freedb.org parsing routine to handle CDs that return multiple
      matches. [Thanks, nogojoe]

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N.A.N.Y. 2009 / Re: NANY 2009 Release: Trout

« on: January 07, 2009, 04:18 PM »

Match found for Disc IDf20b6d10  Track titles added .......  But there is nothing added!!!! blank window.

-nogojoe (January 07, 2009, 02:47 PM)

Would you please download and install the latest (build 76)?  I've added some logging to the freedb routines in this build so:

1) Start Trout.
2) Attempt to play the problem CD or any other CDs you're having trouble with.
3) Close Trout.
4) PM me the "freedb.log" file in your Trout install folder.  Or, you could simply paste it in this thread but please use code tags if you do.

By the way, there is no need to uninstall previous versions of Trout when installing new ones.  Just close out Trout and install right over the top and your settings will be preserved.  Thanks for your patience on this.

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N.A.N.Y. 2009 / Re: NANY 2009 Release: Trout

« on: January 07, 2009, 08:27 AM »

v1.0.1 build 73
    + Added option for a custom string display when tags are missing.  The
      default string is "<missing>" but you can change it to whatever you'd
      like.  Tools, Options, General, Tags section. [Thanks, app103]

Still no tag editing but at least you don't have to stare at blank cells now.  =]

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N.A.N.Y. 2009 / Re: NANY 2009 Release: Trout

« on: January 07, 2009, 08:25 AM »

in Billy, you can set it so that if it's your default audio player, and you double-click one file in explorer, all files in that folder are loaded into the current playlist. it's just a quick way of loading an album.

-garbanzo (January 05, 2009, 07:32 AM)

No, Trout does not currently support that type of functionality.

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N.A.N.Y. 2009 / Re: NANY 2009 Release: Trout

« on: January 07, 2009, 08:18 AM »

I need clarification on when Trout fails to locate the CD data of the internet does it automaticily load the songs as [D] CD Track 1 etc etc.   or do I have to manaully use file menu - add folder

-nogojoe (January 07, 2009, 07:30 AM)

It should load the generic titles automatically.

At present that is what I am having to do and then I run into this problem over the files being only allowed to start from the beginning and playing straight through to the end with some of the controls having any no effect. the stop and start are ok but selecting a song lower in the list doesn't work and Trout keeps on reverting back to the 1st song being played.

Everything works perfectly when the data has been downloaded off the internet but the same can't be said with the CD that the internet can't supply the data

-nogojoe (January 07, 2009, 07:30 AM)

That is very odd because it shouldn't matter what is showing under the tag columns.  The column that matters for all playback is the path column.  That column should be the same whether there is internet data or not.  So, to summarise:

1) You have "Allow internet access" checked.
2) You try a CD that doesn't have a freedb match (so it should default to generic titles).
3) You don't see the generic titles listed?  Or do you?

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N.A.N.Y. 2009 / Re: NANY 2009 Release: Trout

« on: January 07, 2009, 04:28 AM »

1 the mini bar .  is it possible to be able to move it at present it sits in the middle of the screen and unless I'm missing something I can't get to shift from that position.

-nogojoe (January 07, 2009, 02:40 AM)

Just click and drag on the minibar's Trout icon.

2 Would it be possible to add to the hotkeys action "Play Audio CD in Drive D"

-nogojoe (January 07, 2009, 02:40 AM)

Sure, lemme see what I can do.  =]

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N.A.N.Y. 2009 / Re: NANY 2009 Release: Trout

« on: January 06, 2009, 10:26 PM »

If it can't load the full data full  off the CD (or does it get it from the internet ??)  it fails to load and I have to go to File Menu -Add folder to get it to load and then it only loads as Track01.cda etc.

-nogojoe (January 06, 2009, 09:56 PM)

That was my fault.  When I uploaded build 71, I noticed this issue and silently uploaded a build 72.  Make sure you're running build 72 in Help, About.  If not, grab the installer again.  My apologies.  If you want title information for CDs, you will need to check the box that app referenced.

Edit (for clarity):
Here's how the CD loading works now.  If you don't have internet access checked, it will simply load tracks from the CD like this e.g.:

[D:] CD Track 01
[D:] CD Track 02
[D:] CD Track 03
...

If you do have internet access checked, it will attempt to get artist/title information from freedb.org based on the CD disc ID.  If the information for that particular disc ID is not available on freedb.org, it will simply add the tracks generically as above.  Make sense?  Please let me know if it works out for you.  Thanks.

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N.A.N.Y. 2009 / Re: NANY 2009 Release: Trout

« on: January 06, 2009, 06:39 PM »

Doing my promised XP test...
I am happy to say that all the issues reported before were 9x (or slow pc) related and not appearing on XP.

-app103 (January 05, 2009, 07:03 PM)

Thank you very much.  That is great to hear.

Is there anything you can do about untagged files leaving a blank line?
 (see attachment in previous post)
(on second thought, this might be a good thing, since it will allow me to easily see which files have missing tags, so I can fix them)

-app103 (January 05, 2009, 07:03 PM)

As I mentioned to apfel, how about an option where you could specify what would go there?  "<missing>", "<tag me please>", etc.  =]

I am in love with the minibar! (you still need to make sure it can't leave the desktop, though)

-app103 (January 05, 2009, 07:03 PM)

Do you mean you would like it constrained within the desktop boundaries set by 1) screen edge or 2) app bars?

This is a really nice player and there are only a few reasons left for me to ever use Winamp again:

-app103 (January 05, 2009, 07:03 PM)

[snip]

- Even though last.fm support is not something I use, it _is_ on my short list.

- Tag editing...hmmmm...I've struggled with deciding to add this or not.  My reasons are twofold, 1) I'm loathe to modify user files (I'd really hate to screw that up, you know?) and 2) there are much more capable tag editors out there than I could ever hope to write.  That being said, it wouldn't be difficult to add simple tagging capabilities.  Would one file at a time (and just the basic fields) be okay with you?  Or were you hoping for multiple files at a time (definitely doable).

- Media library.  Again, something I've been shying away from doing in the hopes of keeping Trout a small, simple player.  What did you have in mind?

- Remove dead and duplicates.  Yes, I'll add these.

- Nasties to recycle bin.  Yes, will do.

- Explorer shell integration.  I actually have this (mostly) working.  It works fine if you select only one file (or one folder) and choose the context menu entry.  The interesting thing is that my code does handle multiple files/folders when dropped onto the playlist and/or the application shortcut.  However, when called from the context menu, the list is out of order and seems to come in randomly.  I need to do some more research into this to learn how to handle it.

Credits on their way.

-app103 (January 05, 2009, 07:03 PM)

Thank you.  =]

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N.A.N.Y. 2009 / Re: NANY 2009 Release: Trout

« on: January 06, 2009, 09:44 AM »

How about an field under Options where you can enter in whatever you'd like to appear if a tag is missing?  You could put something like "<missing>", etc.

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N.A.N.Y. 2009 / Re: NANY 2009 Release: Trout

« on: January 05, 2009, 05:59 AM »

can this open a folder full of files at once by just opening one file like Billy does?

-garbanzo (January 05, 2009, 04:41 AM)

Hmmm...I'm not sure what you mean by "open a folder full of files at once by just opening one file."  With Trout, you can use the following methods:

"File -> Add file(s)"  This will bring up a standard file selection dialog where you can select one or more files to load.
"File -> Add folder"  This will bring up a standard folder selection dialog where you can select a folder.  It will load that folder recursively.
"File -> Load playlist"  This will bring up a standard file selection dialog where you can load a playlist file (m3u, pls, or wpl).  This might be what you're referring to.
"File -> Add URL"  This will bring up a small dialog to let you paste in a URL to attempt to stream.
You can also simply drag and drop folders or files to the playlist, program icon, or minibars.

Does that answer your question?

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N.A.N.Y. 2009 / Re: NANY 2009 Intro

« on: January 05, 2009, 05:42 AM »

So there was no NANY 2007.. if someone tries to sell you a NANY 2007 mug it's a forgery!

-mouser (January 05, 2009, 04:47 AM)

:: From a back alley near you...(mouser, in disguise, to poor lil' Joey) ::
"Lies!  What mouser told you are lies!  There was a year 2007, wasn't there?  There must've been a NANY 2007, no?!  Look!  Right here I have a whole slew of 2007 NANY mugs for sale.  Name your price!"

Lil' Joey can't believe his good luck and does the banana dance  whilst handing mouser a hundred bucks .  "Oh yeah, it's my birthday , yeah, uh huh, I'm so cool, yeah."

:: Sirens in the background ::
  Mouser, "Look, kid, I gotta go..."

:: Cops arrive... ::
"What's going on here?  We've had reports of forged NANY mugs for sale in the area."

Lil' Joey, "What?!?!   Oh, noes!!!   I've been mousered!!   How can I go on?!

"Precinct 16...uhhh...yeah...we're going to need a cleanup crew at the corner of Doenayshun and Kohdurr streets.  Mouser has struck again..."

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N.A.N.Y. 2009 / Re: NANY 2009 Release: Trout

« on: January 04, 2009, 05:39 PM »

that fixed them ok.

-nogojoe (January 04, 2009, 02:51 PM)

Good to know.  Thanks for the testing and the feedback.

The only thing that happens now is that if you left double click outside the song list it just restarts the song  only if you do that unintentionally ,in the long run not necessary to try and fix
the rest is perfect

-nogojoe (January 04, 2009, 02:51 PM)

I'm curious, what would you rather it do?  I'd assume nothing, eh?

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N.A.N.Y. 2009 / Re: NANY 2009 Rewards

« on: January 04, 2009, 07:16 AM »

I mentioned above how I (and others) may have misc. extra prizes to give away.. If NANY participants have specific requests for these items please chime in -- or suggest other prizes you might ask for from people reading, etc.

-mouser (January 04, 2009, 02:34 AM)

I'm gunning for the external USB SATA enclosure.   

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N.A.N.Y. 2009 / Re: NANY 2009 Release: Trout

« on: January 04, 2009, 07:07 AM »

Found another Bug, start song->find track->click currently played song->result player plays now two songs simultaneously.

-apfel (January 03, 2009, 07:19 PM)

possibly found another bug
running Trout and playing songs off CD drive  if you double left click the mouse in the clear space below the list of songs generated Trout seizes up stops playing.
can only close down by the close menu on the computer taskbar or via the Windows task Manager to kill Trout.
if you left doubleclick on the songs available Trout starts to play the song   anywhere else it seizes up ....which I can now add even if you left doubleclick a song that is not highlighted and playing Trout seizes up
2nd Edit
again with playing songs from CD if you start one song from the list generated and then stop it from playing you can't restart a song either from double clicking or from pressing the start button top left you have to close down and restart

-nogojoe (January 04, 2009, 12:27 AM)

Please try the latest build.  I think I solved a race condition that may have resulted in the behaviour you both described.  Hope so, anyway.  =]

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N.A.N.Y. 2009 / Re: NANY 2009 Release: Trout

« on: January 03, 2009, 11:32 AM »

Nice search function  .

-apfel (January 03, 2009, 10:43 AM)

Thanks!  I've improved it a bit in the latest build:

v1.0.1 build 33
    ! The list search window wasn't set as owner properly which resulted in an
      unwanted taskbar button.
    + Added keyboard control to the Find Track dialog.  Up/down/enter now affect
      the listbox as one would expect them to.

Man, I really need to get the auto-updater routines written.  =]

Found another behavior issues:
- seekbar stops refreshing, when open right-click menu on playlist.
- open right-click-menu and click on another spot on the playlist opens the menu again.

-apfel (January 03, 2009, 10:43 AM)

Unfortunately, there isn't going to be anything I can do about this.  All AHK apps are affected in this manner.  Granted, this behaviour is not limited to AHK; other languages are affected in the same manner.  Good thing that, for the most part, it's strictly a cosmetic issue.

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N.A.N.Y. 2009 / Re: NANY 2009 Release: Trout

« on: January 03, 2009, 09:22 AM »

BTW, the default local hotkey for the list search function is F3.  However, you can set a global hotkey for it and use it even while Trout is hidden e.g. in the tray.

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N.A.N.Y. 2009 / Re: NANY 2009 Release: Trout

« on: January 03, 2009, 08:59 AM »

I droped a folder with japanese characters in the name. Ansi Folder Names work fine.

-apfel (January 03, 2009, 06:42 AM)

Yep, unicode paths won't work at this point.  If I can figure out a way to implement them, you can bet I will.  =]

I just updated with build 26.  Please let me know if the search feature works how you would like.

v1.0.1 build 26
    + Added "View changelog" entry to the Help menu.
    + Added tooltip when hovering over minibar icons.
      It will use the titlebar formatting template. [Thanks, app103]
    + Added a find-as-you-type search feature under the Edit menu. [Thanks, apfel]
    * Moved "Justify columns now" entry to the View menu.

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N.A.N.Y. 2009 / Re: NANY 2009 Release: Trout

« on: January 02, 2009, 05:58 PM »

Russian, but I own also tracks with chines/korean/japanese characters.
(Unicode autohotkey-> http://de.autohotkey...forum/topic2873.html)

-apfel (January 02, 2009, 05:41 PM)

I'll ask dR about this the next time I see him on IRC.

Found strange behavior, after click on "save playlist" -> Cancle/CloseButton, Trout anyway saves the playlist under  ".tpl".

-apfel (January 02, 2009, 05:41 PM)

Fixed.  Thank you.  Installer and zip have been updated.

When you drop Folder with Music, the folder will be added as an item and not the tracks.

-apfel (January 02, 2009, 05:41 PM)

Could you elaborate, please?  Dropping onto what, the playlist?  If so, I'm not sure what the issue could be since I use that functionality all day long without issue.  Thanks for your continued feedback.

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N.A.N.Y. 2009 / Re: NANY 2009 Release: Trout

« on: January 02, 2009, 05:17 PM »

Yeah, what I mean is the playlist. My tracks with cyrillic names are ????? - ????????.

-apfel (January 02, 2009, 11:35 AM)

May I ask how your Windows box is set up under Control Panel -> Regional and Language Options -> Advanced tab -> Language for non-Unicode programs?

Also, I've been working on your search function.  Here's some preliminary screenshots:




The load time you see in the first screenshot is from my computer (Athlon 64, 2GHz).  I've tested it with 65,000+ files and that took about 35 seconds.  However, once the list is loaded, I've implemented instant find-as-you-type functionality.  It's very similar to the "Jump" functionality in Winamp.  Was this what you had in mind?

Great program!
What I miss though is:

* rating column and possibility to set the rating of a song by mouseclick or shortcut key

* drag and drop support of an mp3 or folder of mp3s to the icon of Trout I placed in Quickstart of the Windows Toolbar

Any plans for those features or to release the code as open source?

-dodenonnonisos (January 02, 2009, 12:45 PM)

1) Unfortunately, I've never been much for rating tunes.  Also, I was hoping to forever stay away from actually modifying user's files.  Apologies.
2) Drag and drop to icons should most definitely work; I just tested it on another one of my boxes to be sure.  Does it work on a desktop icon?  Also, if you use the minibars, you can drop files/folders right onto them.
3) I've no interest in making the source open.  That being said, I'm more than happy to share techniques or pieces of the code if there was something specific you're interested in.

Thank you for your kind compliment and suggestions.

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N.A.N.Y. 2009 / Re: NANY 2009 Release: Trout

« on: January 02, 2009, 08:31 AM »

Great small player.

-apfel (January 02, 2009, 08:22 AM)

Thank you.  I'm glad you like it.

Could you code a search function Ctrl+F or somthing?

-apfel (January 02, 2009, 08:22 AM)

How would you like this to work?

( :(Realy sad about no unicode support...)

-apfel (January 02, 2009, 08:22 AM)

Even though AHK is does not natively support unicode, I have added unicode support where I can in Trout.  The tag reading should support unicode tags and the copy-to-clipboard function will copy in unicode format.  If you can test this, please let me know if it works for you.  I've tested it on my files and it does work for me.

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N.A.N.Y. 2009 / Re: NANY 2009 Release: Trout

« on: January 02, 2009, 07:16 AM »

Beautiful work!!
This is going to be one of my favourite apps for music
It would be great if you could make a portable version

-kilele (January 02, 2009, 05:57 AM)

Thank you for your compliments and suggestion.  I've updated the initial post with a zipfile download.

I believe you can run it as a portable app... just extract the installer (a self-extracting ZIP archive) with Universal Extractor... et voilà.

-PhilB66 (January 02, 2009, 06:02 AM)

Yep, I use InnoSetup to build the installer package; Universal Extractor can easily handle that.

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N.A.N.Y. 2009 / Re: NANY 2009 Release: Trout

« on: January 01, 2009, 03:47 PM »

Quick test on a 9x PC:  Pentium I, 233mhz, 64mb RAM, WinME

-app103 (January 01, 2009, 02:25 PM)

Wowza, from your post, I think it's safe to say that Win9x isn't supported.   

I really like the nice compact size of the minibars. The size is perfect! It would be nice if there was some sort of tooltip on the minibar to give you some sort of hint what you are listening to. (I know it's on the tray icon, but I keep my taskbar hidden)

Piece of cake.  I'll add it into the next build.  Thanks for the suggestion.

It would also be nice if there was an option to keep the minibar always on top.

Right-click the Trout icon on the minibar...you'll see the AoT option there.

It took a looooong time to load a folder of files. You can't play anything till it's finished loading the files. I ended up having to wait 30 minutes!

How many files were in this folder?

It's possible to have both minibars on the screen at the same time. (shouldn't it be one or the other, but not both?)

Ehhh, I figured why limit it to one or the other? 

Some issues (might not be 9x related, I'll test on XP later and let you know):

When you resize the window the list box doesn't resize with it until it's finished loading all the files.

Invert selection doesn't work.

Seekbar & playlist font issue: can't use a different font than the default one or the size is too tiny and I can't adjust font size. Settings are ignored. (I wanted Arial bold, because it's clearer & easier for me to read) I was afraid to change the font on the toaster because I didn't see a button to revert it back to default if there was an issue.

It doesn't read tags properly. It shows the file name where Artist should be, doesn't show album/title/year/genre. This affects the playlist, seekbar, titlebar, and toaster.

Again, at this point, I'm going to have to say it's a Win9x issue since almost all of the issues mentioned above don't happen on any of the WinXP boxes I've tested with.  The tag reading is DEFINITELY a Win9x issue since it's using ansi/unicode DLL calls that aren't available in Win9x.  I assure you (and everybody) that all the above issues haven't happened on any WinXP box I've tested against.

freeDB worked fine and displayed all the info, but I couldn't get Trout to play CD's at all on that machine. It could be an issue with my drive though. Very few players actually work with it...only 2 that I know of, one came with my keyboard and the other one is some crappy thing that I wrote in VB6. (At least Trout didn't crash like Winamp & WMP does when trying to play CD's)

Hmmmm...I'll go with the drive issue.  Hahaha.  For the record, I've tested the CD playback on my home desktop, my wife's desktop, my work laptop and several other computers at work.  I'm curious to know your findings to all the above issues under WinXP or Vista.  Thank you so much for taking the time to test on your WinME box.  Due to your feedback, I've gone ahead and taken the Win9x off the supported OS in my initial post. 

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N.A.N.Y. 2009 / Re: NANY 2009 Release: Trout

« on: December 31, 2008, 11:39 AM »

I've updated this teaser to a release.  I'd be curious to know if this player works on Win2k/Win9x as I have only tested it within a VM on those OSes.

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N.A.N.Y. 2009 / Re: NANY 2009 Teaser: Trout

« on: December 25, 2008, 07:47 PM »

Lovely, Ham.  Thanks so much.  =]

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N.A.N.Y. 2009 / Re: NANY 2009 Teaser: Trout

« on: December 24, 2008, 04:16 PM »

I've updated the first post with screenshots of the updated Options dialog.