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N.A.N.Y. 2009 / Re: NANY 2009 Release: Trout

« on: January 23, 2009, 04:39 AM »

Mostly an interim, bug fix build:

v1.0.2 build 4
    + Added 'Minimize on startup' to the Options dialog.  [Thanks, app103]
    * Fixed the "Rescan tags" function in the edit menu.  Sheesh.  =]
    * Fixed Last.fm sending when artist/title tags are missing.  [Thanks, app103]

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N.A.N.Y. 2009 / Re: NANY 2009 Release: Trout

« on: January 22, 2009, 09:54 PM »

Dangit, I tested for this but apparently not well enough.  I'll look into it and fix it. 

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N.A.N.Y. 2009 / Re: NANY 2009 Release: Trout

« on: January 22, 2009, 03:03 PM »

Thank you for the last.fm support. If given the choice between having a way to love tracks or caching, I'll take the little button with the heart on it.

-app103 (January 22, 2009, 02:46 PM)

If the Last.fm servers are that flaky, I'll add both.  Your button with the heart comes first.  Now, just to verify, you can "love" a track without actually playing it, right?  /me will review the last.fm API docs again.

My ears thank you for that delete option, especially when I am going through my latest crop of recommended downloads from last.fm.

-app103 (January 22, 2009, 02:46 PM)

You're welcome.  =]

option to launch minimized (That way I can have it load at startup and not have to have the main window staring at me each time, and just have the minibar & tray icon showing instead)

-app103 (January 22, 2009, 02:46 PM)

Can do.

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N.A.N.Y. 2009 / Re: NANY 2009 Release: Trout

« on: January 22, 2009, 02:58 PM »

I've lost the select all function in this new release  both under the file menu's and the left click menu.
thanks

-nogojoe (January 22, 2009, 02:41 PM)

Doh.  Funny what a stray char in the code will do.  Fixed and thanks.


v1.0.2 build 3
    * Fixed the "Select all" function in the edit menu.  [Thanks, nogojoe]

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N.A.N.Y. 2009 / Re: NANY 2009 Release: Trout

« on: January 22, 2009, 02:05 PM »

Ugh.  Man, I was hoping that wouldn't be much of an issue.   

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N.A.N.Y. 2009 / Re: NANY 2009 Release: Trout

« on: January 22, 2009, 07:10 AM »

Lots of additions/changes in this build.  Enough that I thought it warranted a bump to v1.0.2.  Please report any bugs (especially with the Last.fm functionality).

v1.0.2 build 1
    + Added basic Last.fm support. Trout's support of Last.fm is limited to the
      following:
          1) A track must be longer than thirty seconds to be considered for submittal.
          2) Artist and title tags MUST be present.
          3) "Now playing" information will be sent ten seconds into track playback.
          4) For a track to be "submitted", it must have played at least 240 seconds
             OR half its track length.
          5) Trout does NO caching of tracks.  It's pretty doubtful I will add this
             capability in the future unless there is some huge need for it.
          See the following URL for more details: http://www.last.fm/api/submissions#subs
    + Mousewheel over the main window's volume control now changes the volume.
    * Re-arranged the Edit menu a bit.  There is now a "Selection" entry with several
      sub-entries.  'Invert selection', 'Remove from list', and 'Rescan tags' have been
      moved to this submenu.  There is also a new entry that will allow you to delete
      the selection to the Recycle Bin.  If a file can't be deleted to the bin, you will
      be warned of such and allowed the option of deleting the file directly.
    * Tried to improve the responsiveness of the listview when switching tracks by
      double-clicking.

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N.A.N.Y. 2009 / Re: NANY 2009 Rewards and Prizes

« on: January 20, 2009, 08:58 AM »

I know I've said thanks in email correspondence but it needs to be said publicly, too.  Thanks!  (and thanks for the prize/gift, too).

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Skwire Empire / Re: Compressing files into multiple .zip archives with each .zip being independe

« on: January 18, 2009, 07:10 AM »

I had a report of the installer link not working so I updated it to point at my dcmembers.com webspace.  I'll also update the second post in the thread so people don't have to read through the whole thing to get to the latest installer.

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N.A.N.Y. 2009 / Re: NANY 2009 Release: Trout

« on: January 17, 2009, 11:24 PM »

v1.0.1 build 96
    - Reverted the tooltip changes from build 95 until I can make them work more
      reliably.

I think the tooltip on the minibar is lingering way too long. When I move the mouse away from the minibar the tooltip follows my pointer till it gets about halfway down the screen...and this is with me moving the mouse rather slowly.

-app103 (January 17, 2009, 01:43 PM)

I've reverted the changes in build 96 until I can work out a better way to do the coloured tooltips.

And is there any way you could save & load settings to remember column order in the playlist? I prefer to see Artist-title-time-album rather than the default artist-album-title-etc, and I have to keep changing it every time I run Trout.

-app103 (January 17, 2009, 01:43 PM)

I will try but I know this will involve quite a lot of code re-working.

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N.A.N.Y. 2009 / Re: NANY 2009 Release: Trout

« on: January 17, 2009, 12:54 PM »

Sonehow the themed mode for the volume bar performs in inverted mode?
When I set the volumn slowly to high the bar goes down and from high to low the bar goes high.

-apfel (January 17, 2009, 12:43 PM)

  I've no idea why yours would be working like that.  I mean, the control is set to inverted when the GUI is built but that's as it should be.  I double-checked in a VM and asked several other friends to check, too.  All seems well.

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N.A.N.Y. 2009 / Re: NANY 2009 Release: Trout

« on: January 17, 2009, 11:40 AM »

Here's a shot, from a friend, showing Trout in the Windows 7 beta.

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N.A.N.Y. 2009 / Re: NANY 2009 Release: Trout

« on: January 17, 2009, 11:11 AM »

v1.0.1 build 95
    + Added sections in Options for custom colour choices for new slider controls.
    * Completely changed up the volume and seekbar sliders.  They now use standard
      progress bars.
    * The minibar tools tips now pick up their colour from the volume colour settings.
      I will add a separate colour option if there is call for it.  [Thanks, app103]
    * Shortened up the Options dialog a bit to (hopefully) fit certain laptop
      resolutions.  [Thanks, Controller]
    ! Tray menu "Stop" action didn't function properly.
    ! Clicking cancel on colour dialog would improperly reset the control.  [Thanks,
      Controller]

Please keep in mind that, in AHK, the progress bar control is rather limited.  All the functionality I added in Trout, in regards to these new progress bars, is handled manually in my code.  Sooooo...there are bound to be bugs here and there.  However, I think these new bars are a marked improvement over the standard slider controls.  Please let me know what you think.  Thanks.

Screenshots showing some of the new possibilities:

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N.A.N.Y. 2009 / Re: NANY 2009 Release: Trout

« on: January 17, 2009, 09:27 AM »

I'll see what I can do.  Thanks.

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N.A.N.Y. 2009 / Re: NANY 2009 Release: Trout

« on: January 16, 2009, 06:43 PM »

You should also add ME to the not supported list.

-app103 (January 16, 2009, 02:07 PM)

Thanks for the reminder!

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N.A.N.Y. 2009 / Re: NANY 2009 Release: Trout

« on: January 16, 2009, 11:48 AM »

Didn't see anything alike in the import table. As Windows 98 is not supported, can you compile as unicode executable?

1) Trout doesn't use the system mixer for volume control.  All volumes are handled within Trout/BASS.
2) No joystick support at the moment but that would be trivial to add.

-skwire (January 15, 2009, 11:46 PM)

Just wondered about the imports

-Controller (January 16, 2009, 08:00 AM)

I'm not sure what you mean when you say "imports" or "import table".  As for compiling a unicode executable, again, AutoHotkey (AHK) doesn't have unicode support. 

Just tested on Windows XP (SP3 with 'some' nLite), and found this errors too:

• The main buttons show strange letters: 9 ; : and 7 < 8 (using default font / MS Sans Serif s8):
  

-skwire (January 15, 2009, 11:46 PM)

-Controller (January 16, 2009, 08:00 AM)

I'm going to assume your system is missing the Webdings font.  This should be installed by default on all 2k/XP/Vista systems.  Maybe the nLite deletes it?  With that said, I am looking into options where I can dynamically load a font so this sort of thing doesn't happen.

• Canceling color chooser for background color changes the background color in the setup dialog, and this colors are applied. All font settings are applied imediatelly without me pressing the OK button (As there is no Cancel button, guess it's supposed to be that way)

-Controller (January 16, 2009, 08:00 AM)

Yes, I see this bug as well.  Thank you, I'll fix it in the next build.

Another nice change would be if your setup dialog would fit on screen resolutions of 640x480 (Even so Windows XP 'requires' at least 800x600, some Mini-Laptops like mine support e.g. 800x480 only - but considering all that probs I already had with games and some apps because a) this low resolution and b) widescreen, I don't care anymore... and just don't use those software)

-Controller (January 15, 2009, 11:07 AM)

Do you mean the installer?  Or the Options dialog within Trout itself?

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N.A.N.Y. 2009 / Re: NANY 2009 Release: Trout

« on: January 15, 2009, 11:46 PM »

Some issues (on Windows 98):

• The main buttons show strange letters: 9 ; : and 7 < 8 (using default font / MS Sans Serif s8):
• When e.g. pressing F3, nothing happens;
• The systray icons shows only a "white H on green background". I know Windows 98 (by default !) only displays 16 color default palette icons properly, but this icon does not remind in any case on "Trout", the Trout icon or a media player at all.
• Starting playback with doubleclick on a playlist item sometimes does not work (So I can reproduce this with a specific file only)
• Canceling color chooser for background color changes the background color in the setup dialog, and this background color is applied for the seek bar
• Font size is not 'selected' properly in the font chooser, maybe you forgot to set the iPointSize member or have an calculation error

-Controller (January 15, 2009, 11:07 AM)

Windows 95/98 isn't supported by Trout.  Apologies.

• why do you need mixer API (shouldn't bass do all volume stuff?)
• is there any joystick support (joyGetPosEx)
• You should at least add unicode support for file system access
• resources.dll is not compressed (upx)
• Why don't you include no_cover, skwire.ico and streaming_cover in the resources.dll?
• No need to provide Thumbs.db in the zip file
• You could make playlist m3u compatible

-Controller (January 15, 2009, 11:07 AM)

I'll hit each of these points in the event that you can use Trout on 2k/XP/Vista.

1) Trout doesn't use the system mixer for volume control.  All volumes are handled within Trout/BASS.
2) No joystick support at the moment but that would be trivial to add.
3) AHK doesn't have native unicode support.  I've added unicode handling where I can in Trout using all manner of tricks.  Believe me, if I could figure out a way to handle unicode paths, I would add it in a heartbeat.
4) I suppose I could compress the resources.dll but it's only 105k to begin with.
5) I didn't include the no_cover.jpg/streaming_cover.jpg in the dll so it would easier for users to replace them with their own images if they didn't like the ones I included.
6) Thumbs.db.  Doh!  Thanks...deleted from the zip.
7) Trout can read both types of m3u playlists (simple and EXTInfo types).  If you meant writing to m3u format then, yes, I still need to add that functionality.

Thanks for your feedback and apologies, again, about the Windows 98 limitation.  I added some clarifying text to my initial post in this thread.

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N.A.N.Y. 2009 / Re: NANY 2009 Release: Trout

« on: January 15, 2009, 11:32 PM »

1) I'm wondering is there an easy way to refresh the current folder -
currently the only way I see is to reload it - (F5 would be a nice option to have)
2) another very minor thing is:
with playmode set to random could I dictate the first file to play?
3) could there be a column with just file name ?

-tomos (January 15, 2009, 09:51 AM)

Build 84 should cover all three of these points.  Please let me know.

so no experience with players apart from Media Jukebox which I used till now - it's good but this is very nice and "clean"

-tomos (January 15, 2009, 09:51 AM)

Thank you for the kind compliments.  It's always flattering and humbling when others enjoy my apps.

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N.A.N.Y. 2009 / Re: NANY 2009 Release: Trout

« on: January 14, 2009, 03:29 AM »

I have had a play with the slider control and I get no response from using the mousewheel.(Not that I would ever use it)

-nogojoe (January 14, 2009, 01:31 AM)

If you set a wheelmouse hotkey for the seek actions, it will work (but not as well as one would hope).

The slider control works OK with me as long as you hold the mouse pointer right on it, slides back and forth giving the track time, no jumping back and forth as such as  apfel described.

-nogojoe (January 14, 2009, 01:31 AM)

Right, this is the way it was intended.

The only time that happened was when I clicked the seekbar on either side of the control slider then it jumps about 54 seconds forward and back can't really see any need to be doing that though.

-nogojoe (January 14, 2009, 01:31 AM)

Yep, this is the limitation I mentioned before.  I don't think the standard Windows slider control was meant to be used as a seekbar.  =]

However it takes 3 clicks on the seekbar forward of the slider control to go from the start to the finish of a song there could be some use in doing that if you want a quick preview of a song.

-nogojoe (January 14, 2009, 01:31 AM)

This is the reason I added the seek buttons.  You can click and hold either of those to get a sort of CD player fast-forward/rewind effect.

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N.A.N.Y. 2009 / Re: NANY 2009 Release: Trout

« on: January 14, 2009, 12:03 AM »

Yes, foobar have a plugin, which can assign/bind a new playlist as a queue-showing-playlist. You can have a big playlist with many albums and enqueue diffrent tracks, which are displayed at the queue playlist.

-apfel (January 13, 2009, 10:42 AM)

At this point, I would prefer to keep Trout with a single list.  Would adding another play mode that removes the tracks as they play be sufficient?

When I try to seek through the track the slider jumps backs on its previous position.
It only works with realy big jumps like some seconds befor end of track. Same behavior with mouswheel.

Edit: Okay, found out you need to drag the slider to the wished position and release, but after release fast left click on the slider again to "confirm" the position.

-apfel (January 13, 2009, 10:42 AM)

In regards to the large jumps, I think we're running into the limitations of the standard slider control.  As for your second issue, you shouldn't have to left-click again on the thumb to set the position.  It should move to the new track position as soon as you release the thumb.  It does here, anyway.  Can anybody else confirm this?

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N.A.N.Y. 2009 / Re: NANY 2009 Release: Trout

« on: January 12, 2009, 04:28 PM »

I really hope the basic tag editing capabilities I added in this build will be enough for most folks.  I honestly have no desire to extend Trout in this area when there are SOOO many much more capable tag editors out there.  Please, please, please try this out on copies of your files and report to me any bugs.  I've tested it out here but I will continue to use mp3Tag for all my tag editing needs.


v1.0.1 build 80
    + Added "Rescan tags of selected files" to the edit menu.
    + Added BASIC tag editing capabilities to Trout.  There are some caveats.
      You can only edit one file at a time and, by default, the following
      tag types will be written to the following file types:
       
      mp3   ID3v2 tags
      aac   ID3v2 tags
      wma   WMA fields
      ape   APEv2 tags
      flac  Vorbis comments
      ogg   Vorbis comments
      mp4   Not implemented yet
      wav   None
       
      You can TRY to force ID3v1, ID3v2, and/or APEv2 tags by checking the
      appropriate boxes.  This does not work for all file types.
    + Added another section to the statusbar that shows the total number of
      tracks in the playlist as well as whatever row is focused e.g. 2/12.     

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N.A.N.Y. 2009 / Re: NANY 2009 Release: Trout

« on: January 12, 2009, 04:24 PM »

Maybe you could add a Queue List (with HotKey and rightclickmenu entry to add tracks )?

Possible ways to realize it:
- separate window with 1,2,3... track's in a list in the playing order.
  > additional option: auto remove last played track from Queue, if  Checkbox is set to.(<-prefer this solution)

-apfel (January 12, 2009, 12:10 PM)

Hmmm...I never listen to music like this.  I usually just load up an album or two and play them.  Is there another player out that does this?

- new column, which shows  [track Position in Queue/Queue Count of tracks]. (The column should refresh the infos, but this may lead to greater cpu usage...)

-apfel (January 12, 2009, 12:10 PM)

In the latest build, I had already added another statusbar section that shows the currently highlighted track number and total number of tracks e.g. 2/12.  Would that suffice?

another features:
- Skip unplayble (red signs) tracks and continue with the next track.
- more accurate seekbar.

-apfel (January 12, 2009, 12:10 PM)

Doh...I must've broken the "skip over unplayable tracks" functionality because that's how it used to work.  I'll fix it.  As for a more accurate seekbar, I'm not sure what you mean.  It should be accurate to the second.  Did you want finer control than this?

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N.A.N.Y. 2009 / Re: NANY 2009 Release: Trout

« on: January 11, 2009, 11:05 AM »

Thanks for testing.  I'll be moving the main links over to DC space in the near future.

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N.A.N.Y. 2009 / Re: NANY 2009 Release: Trout

« on: January 11, 2009, 10:48 AM »

I've put up some alternate links hosted on my own webserver.  They'll be a little slower but would you mind testing those, please?

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N.A.N.Y. 2009 / Re: NANY 2009 Release: Trout

« on: January 10, 2009, 09:54 PM »

Apologies, I was out of town.  Both links appear to work for me.  Can you verify once more, please?

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N.A.N.Y. 2009 / Re: NANY 2009 Release: Trout

« on: January 08, 2009, 01:17 PM »

thanks a lot for that skwire.
Working perfectly now    nice workaround of the problem 
I was beginning to think that the problems perhaps related to my comp or Cd drive

-nogojoe (January 08, 2009, 02:47 AM)

You're welcome.  Honestly, I had something like that planned from the start (the multi-select popup) but I had hoped just picking the first in the list would get me by while I worked on other stuff.  You forced my hand!  That's a good thing, though.

nice to see Skan from AHK in your credits He seems to be Mr Autohotkey from what I have read in their forum

-nogojoe (January 08, 2009, 02:47 AM)

He is very creative and one helluva nice guy.  I can't say enough good things about him.

Is build 80 going to include hotkey I mentioned earlier   

-nogojoe (January 08, 2009, 02:47 AM)

Unfortunately, no, it isn't.  But build 79 is.  =]

v1.0.1 build 79
    + Added "Play CD in drive ?:" as a hotkeyable item.  This should work
      dynamically for any number of & letter of CDROM drives.  [Thanks, nogojoe]

Let me know how it works out for you.  Thanks, again, for your continued feedback.